Final Randoms Part 2 - Eurobike 2012

Sep 6, 2012
by Alasdair MacLennan  
Part two of our final randoms articles from Eurobike 2012

• Prototype Banshee Rune all mountain frame
• Cube's updated Two15, Hanzz and the new lightweight 160mm Stereo
• Fizik's new trail shoes and seatpost
• Hutchinson's new 2.4" Squale downhill tyre
• Yeti SB family featuring carbon and 29" wheels


Banshee Rune All Mountain Prototype
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  Sometimes you spot things on the first day of a show, other times you spend all week looking and not spotting who, or what, you're after. Final day and we track down Banshee to their German distributor's stand in the open air centra area, an area which became less popular as the week progressed and the rain fell.

This new Rune was the most striking bike on show because it's the one that's not quite in production, although with a release date pencilled in for this October it's not far away. It's a 160mm trail and all mountain bike that looks like it will be an absolute ball on the most technical and steep trails. The bike features Banshee owner/designer Keith Scott's proprietary KS Link suspension platform.

The big news is that the new frame is compatible with both 26" and 650B wheels thanks to its replaceable and interchangeable dropout design. Not only available to suit differing wheel sizes they're also available to suit 135mm, 142mm & 150mm hubs while a unique flip chip design enables the head angle to be adjusted between 65 and 66 degrees in half degree increments. Pricing is keen at €1,799 with a Fox CTD shock or €1,880 including the Cane Creek DB Air seen here. All the details are there, will this turn out to be as good as we're hoping? Time will tell.




Cube
Cube were showing some impressive bikes at Eurobike 2012 with an updated range for their downhill and freeride offerings and a new, and very light, Stereo.

Superlight Stereo HPC frame laid bare
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  Right at the front of the Cube stand, this 160mm travel carbon Stereo was gaining attention all week. Looks are smooth if not groundbreaking but the real talk was reserved for the weight. 2080g including shock to be precise. For a 160mm travel frame this is quite simply astounding, and will be even more so if it proves capable of surviving the rigours of an Enduro race season. The replacement for the Fritz surprised some by not being available in 26", instead only coming in 650B and 29", the former (shown here) coming with 160mm travel, the larger 29" wheeled machine with 140mm. A carbon down tube guard and internal cable routing, including a Reverb Stealth should you wish, ensure clean lines while custom hardware anodised in complimenting colours adds a sharp look.

Stereo full build options
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  Within the Stereo range are numerous bikes with several spec levels although all come with a Fox 34 CTD of some description with varying features dependant on price. Here we feature the X0 based 650B SL, it's 29" XT equivelant SL in green and the XT/SLX based 29" Race in white/red.

Hanzz
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  The third year for this current incarnation of the 190mm travel Hanzz, Cube's big travel freeride/bike park bike comes in with two spec levels for 2013. The Pro promises to be a strong seller thanks to competitive pricing and a combination of Shimano Zee drivetrain, a Vanilla RC shock from Fox and a Rock Shox Domain R up front. The top SL comes with a Cane Creek Double Barrel Air and 180mm Fox 36 forks matched to a full Saint drivetrain. A Spank bar and stem complete the line-up on both.

Two15
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  Last year there was just one Two15 model and one size but 2013 sees this is expand to introduce a small and medium as well as a slightly cheaper model to open up the bike to a much larger number of riders. Both bikes feature a full complement of Fox suspension, the green/black Pro an RC2 rear shock mated to a non-Kashima FiT 40, the blue/black SL a Kashima fork and an RC4 shock. Both are complimented by Shimano drivetrains, Saint on the SL and the new Zee groupset on the Pro which is so far delivering impressive performance at a very reasonable price. Coming with a race ready spec the SL also features e*Thirteen cranks and chain device, Formula brakes, and 35mm Easton bars which seemed to be proving popular as OEM kit based on our sightings when wandering the halls.

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  Cube also had this armour, a bag and a range of riding kit that seemed to offer fantastic quality at some even better prices. If you have a Cube, or even if you don't, you could do worse than take a look as we were impressed at what was offered for the money.




Fizik
Italian brand Fizik sits under the Selle Royal umbrella, alongside Crank Brothers. Famous for their saddles in both the road side of the sport and on the mountain, they used Eurobike to launch a new range of shoes for the off road contingent alongside a new carbon seat post (also available in aluminium) with some unique features.

M1 & M5 MTB Shoes
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  The M1 (black) is the top dog from Fizik and certainly doesn't come cheap at $375 but then no top end shoe is. Hand crafted in Italy, the Kangaroo Leather/Nylon Mesh mesh upper feels tough while we expect the carbon sole to be super stiff. The tread section around the cleat is replaceable, the buckle micro-adjustable for the perfect fit and the straps are made from high performance sail cloth which should make them virtually indestructible. The M5 (white/red) at $200 is the second tier model but still a seriously high end shoe. The sole steps down to a carbon reinforced nylon alternative and the buckle features less macro-adjustment. Microtex replaces the kangaroo leather. It also lacks the special insole of the M1 that uses heat to mould itself perfectly to your foot.

Fit is changed over the previous models with lower profile arch support and improved fit around the toes on the back of feedback provided by their riders.

Cyrano Carbon Seatpost
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  Available in both carbon (212g) and aluminium (238g) this sharp looking layback post really caught our eye. Layback posts can sometimes be a little awkward to tighten when using a twin bolt design but by changing the front bolt to a thumb screw to easily adjust the angle before tightening the rear only with a hex key, Fizik avoid this. The finish is superb and the looks are equally impressive.

Arione 00
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  We have some of the Fizik range which we'll be reviewing in depth shortly but for now we took a quick look at the updated Arione, their top end road saddle which incorporates some of the features also found on their mountain range. Handmade and very light piece of kit which features a carbon shell with built in flexible wings thanks to injected rubber sections for increased comfort. Our experience with these on the MTB range is that it's technology which works superbly. The deep section carbon rails are 9mm and single piece, all of which bring the saddle in at a scant 135g.




Hutchinson Gravity Tyres
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  Hutchinson are really working hard at their range of tyres right now and their World Cup riders are no doubt partly to thank for this as they will have been providing invaluable feedback over the past couple of years.

The biggest news is the 2.4" Squale (top), a smaller and re-profiled version of the 2.5" casing already available, and a tyre which has seen use by Hutchinson United Ride team over the course of the 2012 season. The 2.5" Squale (left) remains unchanged from 2012 but features deeper tread and larger blocks than the new 2.4" size. It's already a proven all rounder and the additional size now available should open up the possibilities for its use on an even wider range of terrain and race courses.

The Dzo (right) is an altogether different proposition, moving from all rounder to about as condition specific as you get in the tyre world. A full blown spike for the worst conditions, it comes with pre-moulded cut lines for those who wish to keep the characteristics of a spike but improve rolling resistance. If you're a racer you'll get it, if you aren't then you may not feel the need to cut away unused portions of a brand new tyre! We'd like to see this in a 2.4" version too as the 2.6" is likely to prove just that bit big for anything but the wildest of tracks in the mud.

Double thickness casings feature on all three tyres as well as the rest of the Hutchinson gravity range, and the Race Riposte compound is a super-slow rebounding soft rubber that comes in at 42ShA although feels significantly slower rebounding than other tyres at this grade which should increase grip.[/PI]




Yeti
Yeti are a brand which has always enjoyed stature at the top of the sport. Numerous race victories and some fantastic bikes right back to their inception comes together to ensure that.
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  The Yeti lurks. The race ready, although disappointingly non-carbon, 303 sits on the left, the DJ on the right.

SB66
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  The SB66 has been around for a while but it's proving to be a popular choice amongst the enduro fraternity thanks to its good angles which inspire confidence.

SB95 29"
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  A 29" brother to the 26" wheeled SB66, the SB95 loses an inch of travel to take it down to 5" but the weight remains unchanged while angles are kept as slack as possible despite the larger wheels. It was once accepted that 29" bikes needed to have steep head angles but this attitude is thankfully changing and some much slacker bikes such as the proto Orange featured earlier in the show as well as this SB95 are evidence of that.

SB66 Carbon
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  Shaving a whole 1.5lb from it's aluminium counterpart the SB66 Carbon joins the party with smooth lines and a definite Yeti feel. Utilising the same Switch technology as the rest of the SB range it's 6" travel promises to enable efficient climbing with sure footed descending, the ideal combination made even better by the reduced weight.

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  Also on show from Yeti was this clothing range, featuring both casual and technical gear in the obligatory Yeti colours, and including a matching iXS gravity lid.




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103 Comments
  • 17 1
 that cube two15 is a sexy bike! like the british/american/french team type colours on it (yaya neg prop me for not being a super patriot) and its pretty awesome fizik are expanding their shoe line, I tryed on a set of r1's and felt good out of the box although didnt like the velcro, and the saddle says "arione" not "ariane"
  • 5 1
 Good spot - a combination of too much staring at a pc screen this week and illegible handwriting I'm afraid!
  • 5 1
 no problem man one mistake in a whole article isnt a bad track record..
  • 12 1
 those cubes are some damn fine looking bikes
  • 7 0
 Those Cube bikes are sex on wheels. I just about lost my mind when I saw them. Holy hell. It's been a while since a bike has gotten me so excited.
  • 2 0
 Cubes are SO SICK ! but very heavy -_-
  • 2 2
 meh you dont need light really unless your racing in tech or whichever place you need a light bike to whip around... my opinion anyway keep in mind my commencal is 40 pounds
  • 2 0
 WHen that horst link patent expire? I want one in the US!
  • 7 1
 Cant really understand people liking the Two15... It's too damn complicated, i really cant figure its design out, and its curves are just not as sexy as they should be. Check out an Intense M9 to see what i'm talking about, for example! Big Grin
  • 2 0
 you're right. complicated, ugly and weighty.
  • 2 0
 Those Cube bikes are looking absolutely amazing, most of all the Stereo. Shame no 26 option, call me old fashioned but I like my 26s. The FR bikes look stunning, would love to have the cash around to get one.
  • 1 0
 has 3 pivots too many.
  • 3 1
 The Cubes (specifically the freeride Hanzz) are SO badass.
I want the Hanzz.
Now.
Hanzzjob time.
  • 1 0
 Pivot Porn......Pivots!
  • 1 0
 The whole point of putting as much money as the Cube costs (about 6000) is to have a light/well performing bike.... 40 is fine but if your gonna throw 6000 into a bike it had better be light or built TOP o the line ! An cubes frames (with the linkage) are unordinarily heavy... Like 11-12 pound with the shock
  • 2 0
 didnt need to read that while eating cereal...
  • 1 0
 @ hitarpotar..... M9's make a shitload of noise unles u build it JUST perfectly
  • 1 0
 its only noise? keeps the bears off your ass (only good thing i could think of) even so for a 3500$ frame you will build it JUST perfectly
  • 1 0
 Well then having the noise is useless cause no bear is gonna be chasing u down a trail... And lol yeah if ur not blowing all ur cash on a frame that's not worth what the price is.. It's a good frame but it's not THAT good... Norco aurum is better and it costs less
  • 1 0
 personal preference really... there is no one frame that is miles better than the competition and no one frame that suits everybody's track, how many adjustments does the aurum have? it has to have at least an adjustable wheelbase to be a good all around bike and the intense has a shit load of adjustments... although on personal choice im keeping my commencal
  • 1 0
 Yeah, it all goes down to personal preferences! Smile I gave the M9 only as an example. The Aurum is yet another super sexy frame... as well as the Banshee Legend Mk2, the all mighty Sunday, the M6, and many others. I was refering only on design... and the Two 15 is one ugly sucker! Big Grin
  • 1 0
 it doesn't have to be adjustable to be good... a downhill frame is made for just that, downhill. All i'm saying is the M9 is load as shit, unless u build it just right... but then the linkage is still pretty loud.
  • 2 0
 define downhill pietermaritzburg and champery are two very different tracks, a long wheelbase for pietermaritzburg wont do you any favors on champery
  • 1 0
 Rockurshoxoff95 - i never said it has to be adjustable to be good. On the contrary - i agree a Dh frame is for DH only. Smile I just did my first serious ride on my new (to me) Sunday frame and dont feel like needing different adjustments - its geometry and suspension progression are perfect the way they are! Smile
All i'm refering to is the frame design, from the begining. Smile And the Two 15 is one ugly sucker!!! Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @finnrambo yeah that may be.. But for guys who aren't factory racers an don't have all the mechanics and shit to really dial your bike in for u, doesn't it just make sense that it's supposed to be a companys job to keep that kind of stuff I mind ? That being said, if they don't make a bike adjustable then it must be one PERFECT machine... And that's exactly what the Aurum is... Strongest frame of the year and frame of the year. It's light, nimble, fast and looks sick too
  • 1 0
 it does take less than 5 minutes to dial in chainstay length... there is no perfect bike and if there is a perfect race machine it wouldnt be alloy either
  • 1 0
 Maybe, but a full carbon frame that's ridden and raced on frequently as I rode literally every day of the summer, then ur frames finished by the end of the season, carbon is made for 1 season of lots of riding then u change it, alloy is longer lasting but can break easier for the time that carbon is stronger
  • 1 0
 yes notice "race" lots of people like boxxers because theyre "race" forks even though a 888 needs far less service... just dont pitch the aurum, im not pitching my commencal
  • 1 0
 I'm not pitching the aurum, lol I promoting it cause it deserves to be noticed... Plus I don't even own one and I can admit it one of the best I the market... Commencal's are sick too, and 888's are "IMO" (2012's) better than a boxxer... WAY smoother and more plush & soak up the bumps, roots & rocks way better
  • 12 0
 34...34....34...34, weak sauce. 36 Yeti and everyone else for that matter. Fox, 34 is a nice new launch that seems to have been forced on a ton of complete builds this year, but there are a number of us who love the 36/20 and would certainly purchase newly revamped 36's. Spend some time for 2014 getting these amazing forks even better for blasting. 160 36's with 20thru will always be better than the 34/15 option for bombing on "all-mountain" rigs. There are a ton of us who want one bike that we can get up the hill effectively for the sole purpose to blast down.
  • 1 0
 Mah Fox made 34 series for 26" because they already developed that platform for the 29ers and twenty-seven-and-a-halfers. Then the only NEW thing you to do then is casting for lowers for 26, then shorten the rods for airspring and rebound, and here you go! It might even be that 26" 34 fits the 650B wheels just as Fox 40 does on Scott 11 team bikes Wink

Nevertheless I totaly agree with you on 36x20, I'm actualy surprised Fox haven't made a new axle "standard" on latest 40s, like 22mm axle or something, in cooperation with Shimano who never ever makes hub spacers/adaptors to suit one hub to different axles.
  • 1 0
 The 36 is overkill for a lot of riding. Many enduro racers, including myself, have been crying out for years for something that resolves the inherent flex of the 32 chassis but isn't as tall or as heavy as the 36.
  • 2 0
 While I do agree that 36's are incredible and give you extra confidence, I think most if not all of us are more than served with the 34's, they're still pretty burly and work Fox precission, which is the highest compliment you can pay to a fork. I have nonetheles always found idiotic the 15 thru axle, I don't see the need other than to make us buy new sets of wheels.
  • 2 0
 Yea cloverleaf but taking things this way there should be 70% less DH bikes sold isn't it? Big Grin

Last time I checked 34 Float in 160 saves barely 100g off 36 160, while 32 saves 500g! That is quite little to sacrifice stiffness. Sure Nico can ride Krankworx Enduro on 32, Fabien Barel sports fkn roadie-narrow Crossmaxes SLR on his 160 bike. However an average Joe like me, requires confidence inspiring stiff equipment, otherwise I do a nice face to a sketchy feeling game screamin - I love lightweeeeeight, but I feel like I'm gonna dieeee!
  • 1 0
 I just wish 34's were being made with 20mm through axle. With Fox sticking with their QR15, Xfusion following suit, and Rockshox and Marz lagging behind in getting out the 34, I've got no options for a beefier fork to match my wheelset. 34x20 would be amazing!
  • 7 0
 Have to say i'm really digging the new Rune. Geo on these quiver killer bikes is getting super dialed at this point. Wish it was carbon but beggars can't be choosers I guess.
  • 3 1
 Brilliant to finally see the Banshee Rune MK2 with the new KS (Keith Scott) link suspension and BALL BEARINGS!!

great work Keith (glad it finally happened), and best of luck to Keith and Jay at Banshee with the new KS bikes, should make plenty of riders very happy especially here in the UK where we love our muddy riding Wink


a slight correction to the PB article, the Rune does not use Dave Weagle's "DW" suspension

its definitely a variation of the short-link virtual pivot design, but quite different to how the DW designs work if you study the suspension system in proper detail

the KS link on the 2nd generation Rune is a re-development of Keith's earlier VF4B short link design used on the first Rune, Spitfire, Rampant, etc.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, really looking forward to getting ahold of one of these. The Mk1 was great to ride, so fingers crossed this one will have fixed those "issues" that the 1 has!
  • 1 0
 Almost picked up the original Rune before I got my HD. The bushing thing was kind of a turn off but not that huge a deal. I haven't personally ridden Banshee's twin link only DW , Shocker , and VPP. Someone posted linkage simulations and it looks to be pretty similar to DW.
  • 5 0
 That X0 Derailleur looks like its hitting the chainstay. On the carbon stereo.
  • 4 0
 The Banshee Rune utilizes Banshee's KS Link suspension platform - it is not a DW Link bike.
  • 4 1
 They say those Cubes come with Saint or Zee kits but they still use formula brakes. Shimanos highlight right now is their brakes and they dont even utilize them on the Cubes!
  • 2 2
 Cube may be the most retarded bike company name. They could have used: Block, Crate or Brick. They should have used: Death-Wish, Bone Saw or Skull F*ck. (something evil)
  • 2 1
 Does that reply have anything to do with what I said?
  • 3 0
 i think its a KS link on the rune and 160mm. takes the swiss army knife award as well
  • 1 0
 Yeah I think you're right. Reminds me a lot of the Ibis HD in a lot of ways. Not a bad thing. Looks good.
  • 1 0
 Nice bike all right. Between spending 3K on the new Kona AM or this, this is a hands down winner.
  • 1 0
 The Rune V2 is 160mm not 150mm!
  • 2 0
 Apologies for the error and thanks for the heads up - fixed!
  • 3 0
 I WANT IT ALL!

except the shoes, but I guess they are one of the only things I may can afford Frown
  • 3 0
 Those hutchinson tyre look awesome , the muddy mary looking one has gotta be worth a try.
  • 1 0
 Damn my choice just got hard for an AM bike. Will have to be out of the new rune with cc air or the new nukeproof AM with CC spring. Choices.......Choices.....Choices
  • 2 0
 the banshee!!!!!!! I'd cheerfully crawl through broken glass naked for one--even a couple hours on one!
  • 1 0
 Cube Stereo may look pimp but those pivots are horrendously small! Particularly main pivot. I would imagine that rear end would be neither stiff nor long lasting
  • 1 0
 jeeez all the bike are great and the geometry on all of them is insane!!!!! and CUBE is really going big this yeaar
  • 2 0
 F*CK YEAH!! EUROBIKE!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 Ah never mind I see there is a close up its a Yeti one, ignore previous comment
  • 2 0
 Hey Mr. Bean made it in the yeti photo....
  • 1 0
 wow the Rune may be the bike i was looking for 26 and 650b in one bike :-) yay
  • 1 0
 Can anyone tell me where can I buy the BANSHEE frame in Europe, I'm looking for Rune Large size, any help from someone !?
  • 2 1
 Yeti always coming out with some saucy gear.
  • 1 0
 i believe that was the yeti dj not the yeti 4x
  • 2 0
 You're right, but because you can get it to run gears, and I believe they discontinued the 4x, it serves that purpose too. Still love Yeti's.
  • 1 0
 looks like my bike..... Cove Shocker
  • 1 0
 Yeti SB66 Carbon , I just fall in love again !
  • 1 0
 Wait, I thought Banshee was VPP?
  • 1 0
 im pretty sure it was keiths new linkage design the KS (keith scott) Link not DW
  • 1 0
 I have a boner for the Cube dh
  • 3 1
 shoes are ugly
  • 1 2
 wear 'em with your pajamas...
  • 1 2
 or for dancing ballet!
  • 1 0
 What can I say apart from CUUUBBBEEEE TWOOO 15!!!!!!!
  • 2 1
 Banshee Rune with DW link? Might want to check your facts on that one.
  • 2 0
 It is inaccurate info.It is not the DW link.It is the KS link designed by Banshee designer Keith Scott.
  • 1 0
 A twin micro link then Smile
  • 2 0
 Dave is correct. KS Link: a-la Keith Scott.

Titanium pivots and silky smooth bearings like their Legend DH bike.
  • 1 2
 Does the KS link predate the DW-link patent? Does banshee market their KS link bikes stateside ? Does it have its own patent ?
  • 3 0
 Are you their IP lawyer?

Link placement and shock actuation are similar but different.

DW
  • 2 0
 Actually the link placement and shock actuation have little to do with it, its the axle path that's important in the DW link patent. Its all about the anti-squat behaviour that matters for that particular patent infringement. That's why Giant had to redesign their's and the maestro linkage is the result of that forced re-design. They had something great, then were told they were infringing on the DW link patent, and had to change it to something less great, but like all bike brands, they now will swear blind that their current design is best.
  • 1 2
 to copy my earlier post:

a slight correction to the PB article, the Rune does not use Dave Weagle's "DW" suspension

its definitely a variation of the short-link virtual pivot design, but quite different to how the DW designs work if you study the suspension system in proper detail

the KS link (K.S. = Keith Scott) on the 2nd generation Rune is a re-development of Keith's earlier VF4B short link design used on the first Rune, Spitfire, Rampant, etc.

I've spent a lot of time riding with, digging with and talking to Keith over the years, and have seen first hand the huge amount of work he did to get his KS link just right, a very difficult "packaging" challenge to make it work within a frameset
  • 1 0
 Carbon rails on a saddle? sounds a lil sketch
  • 1 0
 theres worse... carbon bars and stems for example if they fail (they most likely won't) are going to have you on your ass, saddle breaks? not the biggest deal except youll be pissed about it, run carbon rails on road for 2 years, survived 4 crashes 1 car related
  • 1 0
 Carbon saddle rails are way old school technology now for bicycles. As long you don't over-tighten the head clamp on the seatpost, there's no danger to them. If anything, they should outlast titanium or steel alloy rails.
  • 1 0
 Exactly how are they going to outlast titanium or steel?
  • 1 0
 Other than an overload situation, carbon fiber has basically a near infinite fatigue life. Repeated impacts transmitted to the rails as long as they dón't exceed its design strength level, won't ever lead to fatigue cracks or permanent bends as happens with metal rails (and I've bent steel and titanium rails myself, as well as fatigue cracked them). There's nothing quite like having your saddle rails crack through on the second lap of a six lap XC race to teach you about metal fatigue.
  • 1 0
 carbon can delaminate in wet to but as long as the edges of the layers are covered youll be alright
  • 1 0
 Dang... I stand corrected. Nice work deeeight.
  • 1 0
 Nice Royal Alpine jacket on the booth whats with that?
  • 2 1
 LOOK, a Rocky Mountain Flatli......Cube Two15????
  • 2 1
 Not even close. The Cube Two15 is a full six-bar design although by employing a horst link dropout, spme folks might mistake it for a four bar design until they actually stop and count the bars. In twenty years of owning, riding, and following full suspension mtb evolution, this is one of the only actual six-bar linkages I've ever seen on a bicycle. Normally you never see them outside of motorsports suspension and engineering text books. The RM Flatline is a much simpler single-pivot linkage in comparison.
  • 1 0
 I saw the LOOK part and the linkage part and for a sec i thought you were comparing a LOOK to the cube...
  • 2 0
 cube me up scotty!!!
  • 1 0
 I love the future and hes amazing products... thos Cube bikes are so nice
  • 2 0
 The Cube Hanzz is sexy.
  • 1 0
 Did he say kangaroo leather?
  • 1 0
 Holly Fuct Cube is rocking it!!!
  • 1 0
 The banshee ruin looks like a sweet fr bike
  • 2 1
 i like yeti.
  • 1 0
 No SB95C??
  • 1 0
 Loving that Banshee!
  • 1 2
 Two15 seems redundant
  • 1 4
 is it just me, or is banshee copying VPP system from Santa Cruz???
  • 3 0
 its just you.







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