Ghost AMR Lector 7700 - Previewed

Feb 6, 2012
by Mike Levy  

Ghost AMR Lector 7700

Value packed 120mm Carbon trail bike: The $3250 AMR Lector 7700 packs in an impressive amount of value, but the fact that the components are hung on a carbon fiber front triangle, a very nice one at that, makes it all the more impressive. The swoopy looking frame clearly features the smooth lines often associated with carbon manufacturing, but Ghost hasn't taken that idea too far - stand back a ways and you'd be hard pressed to distinguish it from any number of aluminum offerings. This is a good thing, as the design is more "form follows function" than "look at me, I'm carbon!". You'll find the now obligatory tapered head tube up front, along with a Press Fit bottom bracket down at the rather beefy looking main pivot junction. Cables are routed on the underside of the down tube, making for a very clean appearance, although maybe not the best location for the over-the-tailgate transportation method (do you plan on shuttling on a 120mm bike? I hope not...), and the bike's pivots are held together with steel torx hardware.

Ghost AMR Lector 7700
  Ghost has gone as far as mounting the Fox RP23 damper with needle bearings at both its ends in an effort to create the most sensitive suspension action possible.

Horst Link Suspension: The German designed AMR Lector makes use of a Horst Link suspension layout, using the four-bar design that has been proven over the years to be one of the most well rounded layouts when talking performance. Of course, slight variations in pivot placements will have a large effect on how the suspension performs, and Ghost claims to have done just that in an effort to create more anti-squat in the design to fight bobbing under load. No, they are not trying to break any new ground by using this proven design, but credit has to be given for them choosing to fine tune a proven layout to meet their needs. We're not expecting the rear end of the Lector 7700 to be a revelation, but rather offer a refined ride character. It's also worth noting that the Ghost lineup is one of the very few to utilize a Horst Link layout while being available in North America, having just been picked up by Canada's Mountain Equipment Co-op.

In typical German fashion, the Lector can brag about a level of attention to detail that many others cannot. The bike's chain stays, for example, are a different length on each different size of bike, keeping the wheelbase to chain stay length ratio the same throughout the size range. This detail is a point that the many manufacturers ignore, with most small sizes using the very same chain stays as their larger bikes. It may not make or break a bike's performance, but it's an element in the overall package that will factor in to the bike's performance.

Specifications
Release Date 2012
Price $3250
Travel 120mm
Rear Shock FOX Float RP23
Fork Fox 32F Air FIT RL
Headset Ritchey tapered
Cassette Shimano XT 10-speed 11-34T
Crankarms Shimano XT 42-32-24T
Bottom Bracket Shimano Pressfit
Rear Derailleur Shimano XT
Front Derailleur Shimano XT
Shifter Pods Shimano XT SL
Handlebar Ghost CG Carbon SL Low Rizer 31.8mm
Stem Ghost light AS-025 31.8mm
Grips Ghost lock-on
Brakes Shimano XT
Hubs Shimano XT
Spokes DT Competition
Rim Alex FD19
Tires Schwalbe Nobby Nic 26 x 2.25
Seat Selle Royal Seta
Seatpost Ghost CG Carbon SL
Ghost AMR Lector 7700

Trail Ready Spec: Although the AMR is a new addition to our stable of test bikes, we have little concern about the trail worthiness of its full Shimano XT spec. The 3x10 DynaSys drivetrain, complete with XT Shadow rear derailleur, is stout enough for the roughest of riders but also light enough that all but the most gram-conscious riders should be free of the urge to upgrade for a good while. Shimano's XT brakes, complete with 7" rotors front and back, perform stopping duties, and you'll also find XT hubs at the center of the Alex FD19 rims. Both the bar and stem are Ghost's own carbon fiber components.

It could be argued that a relatively short travel bike such as the 7700 demands even more of its suspension than a longer legged steed, given that it has less to work with in those make or break trail moments. Fox suspension units are found at both ends of the bike, with a 32F Air FIT RL fork up front and a RP23 damper out back. Ghost has spec'd a large volume air can on the RP23 that, combined with the damper's needle bearing mounting, should make for a relatively supple feel at the top of the shock's stroke. This also gives Lector owners the option of adding shims to the air can to increase suspension ramp up throughout the stroke.



Mountain Equipment Co-op is bringing a good selection of Ghost bikes into Canada. While they're better known for carrying commuter, urban and road bikes, this move doesn't come as a huge surprise to us. Many of MEC's staff and management are avid mountain bikers, and they've been heading in this direction for at least a few years. Tim McDermott, who was hired to head up their bike program 4 years ago, has worked in the bike industry for over 25 years including 13 years at Rocky Mountain. Even David Labistour, MEC's CEO, can be spotted on the North Shore trails.

David Labistour CEO of Mountain Equipment Coop stands in front of the Ghost AMR Lector 7700 and a Ghost road bike.

bigquotesWe are very excited to be able to offer a line of Ghost bikes to our Members. We believe the products represent the quality, performance and level of engineering that is consistent with the other lines of technical gear we are proud to carry - David Labistour, MEC CEO

For the complete line of Ghost bikes available in Canada including prices, check out MEC's website here


Stay tuned for a full review of Ghost's AMR Lector 7700

www.mec.ca
www.ghost-bikes.com


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67 Comments
  • 15 1
 This bike stock is 11.7kg or 25.7lbs, no pedals. But for me, I'd be swapping the Nobby Nics for Rocket Rons and going tubeless, bringing her down to 11.45kg or 25.2lbs. High end wheelsets in the 1500g range will also shave a pound or 450g or so of rotational weight. The bike is a very respectable weight and comes stock with nice carbon bars, seatpost and Nobby Nics evo that retail for $99 per tire. For it's price it is an insane value.
  • 4 0
 Agreed, looks like your really getting your moneys worth here. I'd probably swap the front fork out for a Talas 140. Looks sick thought XD . Like the road bike in the background also.
  • 4 0
 have seen it in the shop and it looks nice. I have riden the cheaper AMR bike and felt good 120mm of travel is funn.
  • 5 0
 Awesome price for a carbon bike!
  • 2 7
flag theSAMmai (Feb 6, 2012 at 21:55) (Below Threshold)
 First reaction: wait, that's not a remedy
Second reaction: MEC is selling a bike that nice and cheep? Well there goes the neighbourhood bike shop....
  • 5 0
 Hardly..since MEC opened its ottawa location nearly 20 years ago, several bike shops have either MOVED to be nearby the MEC (one even followed it when it moved locations from the Edinburgh area to the westboro area) or started out in close proximitry (such as Tall Tree Cycles, the owners of which also founded/own the Steelwool Bicycles brand) and have always seen MEC's presence as a good thing.

www.steelwoolbicycles.ca
  • 1 2
 trek fuel...
  • 15 0
 Looks good. Way to go MEC.
  • 6 1
 Well there you have it, so much for that dirt cheap bike at MEC. To all those riders hacking on local bike shops, in the last article about Ghost, for screwing them on the price of bikes, you can eat your words now. Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp $2799, Camber comp carbon 29er $3599. While the Ghost is full carbon 120mm I don't think the price gap is that big.

By no means am I putting down MEC or Ghost my point is just because it's at MEC doesn't mean it's going to be way cheaper than your local bike shop. Check out all the comments in the last article and you'll see what I'm talking about.

But hey as long as it rides good, it's all good!
  • 1 0
 The stumpy comp at $2700 is closer in spec to the $2200 AMR 5900, but I know what you're getting at.
  • 3 9
flag southshorepirate FL (Feb 6, 2012 at 10:44) (Below Threshold)
 You know what the difference between $2700 and $2200 equals for your LBS?



Keeping the lights on and employees paid.
  • 12 1
 You know what the wholesale is on a $2700 bike? About $1900... so... since there's no proof that a qualified mec mechanic is going to do any better/worse job than a wrench at an LBS... and they too have to pay employees and keep the lights going... you're argument is pretty much invalid.
  • 4 8
flag thecarpy (Feb 6, 2012 at 13:08) (Below Threshold)
 Your, not you're. Your argument is invalid becuase you don't know margins whatsoever and you are pulling them out of your ass.
  • 9 1
 I do know margins... i've been selling bikes a long time... far longer than you've been alive in fact. I am in fact looking at the price sheet for Jamis bikes here in canada right now for 2012 and for the Dakar XCT Comp, which is MSRP $2736 and the starting wholesale price is $1881. I say starting because many distributors give more favourable price levels to dealers that order a greater number of units. If needed I can quote the wholesale for GT, RockyMtn or a large number of other brands available here in canada, but I just don't see the point. Unless you're working in a shop or OWN a shop, you're never going to pay wholesale or anywhere close to it until the season is over and the clearance sales start happening.

And as to the specialized bike being higher priced than the ghost of equivalent spec, that largely has to do with how much the distributor for specialized in canada is hiking the price so they can get a slice of the pie also. MEC being the distributor for Ghost, doesn't need to do that. Its not like they're likely to be selling the brand to any other canadian LBS's anytime soon. With specialized, and many other american brands... you're paying a premium because of importing/distribution in canada compared to brands that are domestically owned. But then again, you also are often paying a premium for the brand name as well. Rocky Mountain's are generally much higher priced than a similar type/spec level bike from many other brands, even here in canada. MBA just reviewed the Element 950 and for what is supposed to be an XC 29er full suspension, its definitely overpriced and porky compared to some of the alternatives on the market already.
  • 2 0
 @carpy95... Incidently, if you're going to correct me on the your vs you're point of grammar, very commendable for a 16 year old on the internet to actually know the difference btw, then you shouldn't spell "because" wrong while doing it.
  • 1 0
 Construction methods also have a lot to do with price. I personally would be leery of a full XT, with fox F&R suspension, on a carbon bike under $4000, somewhere along that construction line costs are being cut; a poorly constructed carbon fully can be a dangerous gamble. To deeeights comment about importing, if any of you have a problem with the prices that we as Canadians have to pay for bikes compared to the US write a letter to your local MP because it's the F$%KED up duties we have to pay that drives up the prices. Free trade my ass.
  • 1 0
 @gozerthegozarian It is the fact that if the bike has anything Shimano (most bikes do) free trade doesn't apply as Shimano is made in Japan. And unluckily all duties for parts are passed to the consumer.

But @deeeight is right about MEC, because they cut out one pie-taker (the distributor in this case).
  • 8 0
 id try it, cant go wrong at a price like that.
  • 1 0
 you will not be dissapointed! Wink have riden the amr 5700 and loved it!
  • 4 0
 It doesn't matter if you are shuttling it or not, most people need to drive to get to their favourate tracks. If you get a ute full of dudes, you're going to need to hang them over the tailgate. I've found the damage in the real world to be negligable in these circumstances though, because if you have a hard enough surface to damage the hoses the frame probably isn't looking all that good either.
  • 1 0
 although i understand that you need to take the bike to the trails. most trail beginning are on paved roads or at least relatively smooth gravel. if you have the proper padding on your tail gait there isn't much risk of damaging anything. its only when your shuttling rough roads 4wd tracks or chucking twice as many bikes as should go on that stuff starts to get damaged. for me this is definitely not a concerning point for a trail bike.
  • 2 0
 Got it!

It´s awesome. Thought i need more travel, but the Bike is so nice on a single Track. It´s very stiff and i ride local DH Tracks with that.

I will ride the Megavalanche with it...
  • 1 0
 I think it's a great move on the part of MEC. Looks like a proper MTB. Still if you look at Jenson's, that now ships Yetis to Canada, you can have an ASR-5 with a similar build for 3400 taxes and shipping included. You at least have to add 10% or more sales tax to the Ghost, which put the price upwards of 3500 at the very least.

So, good deal for a presumably good bike (never tried one, don't know), but still, solid deals can be had from USA mail order sites on proven bikes with a solid track record...
  • 2 0
 Ghost bikes have a well proven track record selling to a much larger market than just canada/usa. I also fail to see how buying US mail-order is somehow better than buying from a local business for helping the canadian economy. At least when there's a problem with the ghost, you can just bring it into a MEC since they're the distributor... something goes wrong with the yeti (a defect say) and you're stuck having to ship it back to the usa. All to save a hundred dollars eh?
  • 1 0
 The ASR-5 of which you speak is an alu frome with X9 and X7 coupled with Elixir Fives.... not really competitive with full XT and a carbon front triangle. Just sayin'.
  • 1 0
 Thanks to MEC for bringing a new brand into Canada. I spent a month in Denmark last year, and Ghost bikes were everywhere.
And a special shout out goes to all the bike brands all ready selling in Canada that didn't sign a deal with MEC. I think everyone was worried about the health of their local bike shop when they heard MEC was getting into the bike game. I guess the end result won't be so bad. MEC didn't have to step on to many toes to get into the game.

bikefat.com/keep-your-local-bike-shop-alive-without-missing-out-on-the-online-deals
  • 1 0
 not a fan of cables running under the bb. notice how the XT rear mech cable does not travel in a straight line like intended. I would mount my own wheels to it anyway so the present non ust an rubber choice would be mute. It looks nice.
  • 1 0
 As long as it's full length housing, I'm fine with either. It's certainly a cleaner look this way.
  • 1 0
 when you mash the under cables on a rock and have no gears and/or brake............been there. Never again. Gimme a Santa Cruz or Ibis thank you
  • 1 0
 How often do you rip off the bottle cage you have dangling under you mojo? Wink I'm just playing, different strokes for different folks.
  • 1 0
 To be fair, the bottle cage under the downtube option at least sits a lot higher than the cables under the BB shell. You'd have to case a landing while doing a bar cross to actually hit the downtube bottle cage on many full suspension bikes (because its otherwise protected by the front wheel) or crash in some fashion to be dragging the downtube across the ground. The housing under the BB shell can snag on most any decent log/rock ledge climbing situation since it hangs down as far as most bash guards would, and we all know we hit those on our bikes already.
  • 1 0
 Fair enough. I just see it as one of those theoretical design advantages that doesn't really play out in the real world. I suppose it's just never been a problem for me with the way I ride on the trails I use.

One other thing, they may have felt they had to do it this way (at least for the front derailleur). The derailleur is mounted on the chainstay pivot. I like this feature as it allows the derailleur to pivot with the rest of the drivetrain as the bike goes through it's travel. However, this means the housing stop needs to be mounted on the chainstay otherwise the derailleur actuates as the bike goes through it's travel. I suppose that's another theoretical advantage. Some companies with pivot mounted f. der's just mount the housing stop on the seat tube. Pivot is an example.
  • 1 0
 1999-202 I owned 4 GT's and cables got mashed numerous times under the BB. It was a ride stopper and I do not allow that. Specialized sux that way as well. Running full housing slows down shifting.
  • 1 0
 It's been my experience that the vast majority of drag in cable and housing comes from (in order) contamination, improper lengths, and improperly prepared housing ends. All three of those issues are mitigated to varying degrees by running full length housing. On my everyday commuter bikes I drill out the housing stops so I can run full length housing and it drastically increases the length of time between cable/housing swaps.

I do agree though, when brand new, and both perfectly done, interrupted housing perform slightly better then full length.
  • 1 0
 without seeing the angles, tt length, so, etc which could nix the deal from the get go. 680mm bar i would change=$100, pedals=$100, shorter stem$75. mec wouldn't change these like an lbs. don't rly understand the 10spd w/out the 36t on the cogset so eventually i'd have to get 11-36 and a bashguard w bigger mid ring=$250ish. so at $500 extra the LBS might be a better choice to get what you want/need, and hope the seat is comfy for you. not bad looking just a lil risky and missing a bit on the spec
  • 1 0
 I think all fit related parts are swapable. I would like a 2x10 with 36t though.
  • 1 0
 Have you read the actual reviews of the Lector done by real bike magazine editors ? The 680mm width is perfectly fine for the type of bike that this is. Its NOT a 150mm + travel All Mtn or Freeride bike. It doesn't have to be part of the minority of "wide as a sofa" bar width club to be a good bike for most riders. Going off the list of faults you have listed with inflated prices for the things you want, I can think of no bikes offered by ANY brands of complete production bikes that offer what you want on a 26 pound 120mm travel model. That they don't include pedals is not in any way unusual as at this price point, MOST every brand ships the bike without pedals anyway, and if they do include pedals, they're usually some OEM model that owners quickly change anyway because either they don't like that style of pedal, or that brand of pedal (I've bought easily a dozen pairs of crank brothers clipless pedals for $20 a pair because of other shops having to replace them with something else to complete the sale of the bikes).
  • 1 0
 that price is insane! no other bike manufacturer can offer a carbon front triangle, XT spec'd groupset and all the other details as close to this $3250 price tag. and needle bearings for the rear shock mounts? what bike manufacturer does that? awesome attention to detail. if im not gonna get a 29'er, i'll get one of these. nice move MEC!
  • 1 0
 Agreed.

I thought Giant were the king of value. Their Trance X Advanced is same travel and carbon front end and the spec is identical except the Trance comes with aluminum bars and stem. Its retail is $4999 Canadian.
  • 1 0
 good point! i even forgot to mention that the handle bar and seatpost on that ghost lector is carbon. such a sweet deal indeed!
  • 1 0
 I`m actually wondering if MEC will also bring Ghosts Gravity bikes to Canada.
They got an pretty nice DH Bike and some great 4X Bikes, some of the best German Gravity riders ride Ghost.
  • 1 0
 I have heard the Vancouver store is going to have a few of the Caguas.
  • 1 0
 I actually thought of the Dh 9000, sick Bike I can tell you that.
Goes over the gnarly stuff like riding on a autobahn Big Grin
The 14 times Germand DH champion rides that thing.

www.ghost-bikes.com/2012/bikes-2012/bike-detail/dh-9000
  • 3 2
 too bad MEC couldn't have struck a deal with a Canadian bike manufacturer (some really nice bikes made in our back yard). good too see race face representing.
  • 2 0
 but there are plenty of shops around already if you want a canadian brand. where else here can you pick up a ghost?
  • 2 0
 Exactly... nowhere. Nor can you pick up all sorts of other euro brands in canada that have good bikes/value. Because without an importer willing to bring in hundreds of units... there's little interest in the manufacturers to export to canada.
  • 2 2
 that would be great if it was wal-mart or jenson or something like that, MEC should be a little less about profit margin and a little more about buying local and reducing carbon footprints etc. i'm sure ghost bikes are as good as any other but i would prefer to support a company like devinci that still hand makes it's frames here for the trails i ride on. they may cost a few more bucks but i'll be able to get my pivot bearings replaced in five years and not worry if they still have an importer.
  • 1 0
 All bicycle frames are hand made and there's nothing reducing the "carbon footprint" about doing it in canada over taiwan or china. You clearly don't have a handle on how energy intensive and polluting it is, PERIOD, to produce the aluminium used in most bicycle frames and then to turn that aluminium into tubing, and then into frames.
  • 2 1
 that's all nice however, once you build it in Germany you still have to but it on a boat and send in across this little thing called the ocean. that is once you have shipped the parts from all over the world to assemble it there or put it in a box. a not Canadian assembles it , a not Canadian ships it to the dock. a whole crap load of not Canadians drive the boat over here. that has to be just a little more complicated than getting something almost completely made in one building by my countrymen then sent a few thousand ks down the tracks. there is allot more to that decision of what you buy than you think. MEC is helping run Brodie and other companies that invented the genre out of business for something with a flashy paint job from Europe. i think that ghost bikes look really nice but i ride with people that build canadian bikes. i know there is a large difference between a bike crafted by an artist like mike from Chromag than one made by Mr. I've never ridden a bike before in my life.
  • 2 0
 Yeah.... SOME devinci frames are fabricated in canada still. Fine. But practically EVERY other component that makes up the bike ISN'T. Its made overseas and has to ride those same boats across an ocean to get here. But fine fine, keep living in your pipe dream world where MEC is somehow causing the glaciers to melt (apparently the fact that MEC gets all their electricity to operate their stores from 100% renewable energy sources isn't doing enough for the environment or the canadian economy for some people's armchair quarterbacking). Brodie....HAH...Brodie's bikes all come from asia and have been coming from Asia for a good decade plus now.

I love how people on here act like they KNOW exactly that the people who build bikes in asia have never ridden a bike before... really? How do you come to that conclusion? Have you NEVER even watched news footage of china? MOST chinese works can't afford cars... or to even take trains... what do they do to get around? THEY BICYCLE...EVERYWHERE....
  • 2 1
 of course i know brodie outsources it frames now, like i said it's because people like you would rather save a few bucks on an overseas made product than support a local builder. and i'm sure little badge stamper # 6 is knockin off 4 foot drops on her way to work through Beijing with her basket full of bok choy on her cruiser. she probably does't do a whole lot of all mountain riding and most certainly is not flying over here and spending a few days ripping it up at whistler or touring the north shore. she will never support my local economy.
just saying buy something good made by your neighbor,
  • 1 0
 Ok so now your argument is that the people who build bikes overseas ride bicycles, but that they don't ride them over 4 foot drops so that somehow disqualifies them as doing a good job, or having the right to earn a living. And that such people aren't good enough for prima donnas like yourself to have built the frames you ride bicycles made from. So then, you've never owned or ridden a bicycle who's frame wasn't made in canada? Uh huh. So then why on your own profile does it say you ride a Norco Rampage? Norco's as much an asian made cookie cutter brand as anybody, and has been for decades now. I expect this sorta flipflop argument yet stubborn stupidity from the teenagers on here, not the forty somethings. I'm done wasting my time with you.
  • 2 0
 you are right it is a far better product made cookie cutter style overseas. norco employees alot of poeple just down the road from me.i doubt ghost employees will be toting a shovel up mount seymour next trail day. Norco however spends thousands of dollars contributing to trail advocasy, junior bike camps,they support canadian atheletes at all levels and disciplines of cycling. norco is in fact a canadian company trying to compete in a customer driven business. you are the customer and you are telling them it is more important to you to save the cash. i wish norco still made it's own frames same as brodie and rocky mountain, so should you. it should be a source of pride.
  • 1 0
 @trailchef

GHOST BIKES ARE MADE IN GERMANY!!!!!!! A COUNTRY SIMILAR TO CANADA. These bikes are not made in China.
  • 1 0
 This is a sick bike for that price, Being in the market for a new AM bike this year I've got to consider this a possiblle new ride to add to my bike quiver.
  • 1 0
 is it just me or does it look like a trek remedy with less travel?

btw, that means it is a sweet looking ride!
  • 1 0
 Needs 130mm travel. 120mm is just not quite enough for trail imo. Trek needs to do this as well with their Fuel EX series.
  • 1 0
 I was thinking it needs more travel as well. Checking out the MEC website they do offer a 150mm version for another $500 or so. Still, under $4k for a 150mm travel carbon bike with xt kit is a solid deal.
  • 1 0
 Thought this was a Trek before I read the caption lol.
  • 1 0
 this is clasic germany quality!!! Keep it up Big Grin
  • 1 0
 cool
  • 1 2
 weights?
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