2011 Last Bikes - Eurobike 2010

Aug 31, 2010
by Alasdair MacLennan  
Any and every sort of bike was on display at today's Demo Day, but the ones found under the Last Bikes tent stood out from the crowd. Their entire range is far too cool to only focus on a single model so inside you can get to know the Herb DH, Herb AM, and the Herb FR. Info and pictures inside!

Read on...
Last bikes are another German brand with a strong presence on the European race scene.  This is the Herb DH which has seen some tweaks for 2011 which allows it to work better with the current crop of downhill shocks.   Less progression in the first half of the stroke keeps the bike subtle whilst rising at the end to reduce harsh bottom out.
Last bikes are another German brand with a strong presence on the European race scene. This is the Herb DH which has seen some tweaks for 2011 which allows it to work better with the current crop of downhill shocks. Less progression in the first half of the stroke keeps the bike subtle whilst rising at the end to reduce harsh bottom out.

Following the trend of DH bikes, this is also lower and slacker than the previous version to help with stability.  Large bearings are used throughout and should keep slop and flex to a minimum as well as lasting a decent amount of time even with plenty of riding in the worst conditions.
Following the trend of DH bikes, this is also lower and slacker than the previous version to help with stability. Large bearings are used throughout and should keep slop and flex to a minimum as well as lasting a decent amount of time even with plenty of riding in the worst conditions.

No ISCG tabs are fitted to this but as it comes with its own integrated Last built chain device this isn't really an issue.  The top guide bolts directly to the swingarm to kill any flex or movement and the lower guide is a simple wheel which bolts on directly behind the bottom bracket shell.  Simple but effective.
No ISCG tabs are fitted to this but as it comes with its own integrated Last built chain device this isn't really an issue. The top guide bolts directly to the swingarm to kill any flex or movement and the lower guide is a simple wheel which bolts on directly behind the bottom bracket shell. Simple but effective.

Including shock, steel spring and chain device the claimed weight for the 216mm travel frame<br /> is 5.2 kg which is helped in part by the narrow 135mm back end and 73mm BB shell.
Including shock, steel spring and chain device the claimed weight for the 216mm travel frame
is 5.2 kg which is helped in part by the narrow 135mm back end and 73mm BB shell.

Whilst both being aimed at a similar market and may carry similar aesthetics,  expect the Herb AM and FR to have slightly different rides.  The AM you see here has the slightly lighter tubeset as well as a still slack 65.8 degree head angle in comparison to the even slacker 64.6 degree of the FR offering.
Whilst both being aimed at a similar market and may carry similar aesthetics, expect the Herb AM and FR to have slightly different rides. The AM you see here has the slightly lighter tubeset as well as a still slack 65.8 degree head angle in comparison to the even slacker 64.6 degree of the FR offering.


Both bikes come with a taper steerer, but by using a standard 1 1/8
Both bikes come with a taper steerer, but by using a standard 1 1/8" steerer fork you can use an adjustable bottom cup to slacken or steepen the angles if you prefer. The bottom bracket height is also nice and low which keeps the stability good, the actual measurement being +4mm from the axle line.

Both come with these neat replaceable dropouts offering the option of both 135mm<br />and 150mm rear 12mm axle wheels to be used (142mm will also be offered in the very<br />near future).
Both come with these neat replaceable dropouts offering the option of both 135mm
and 150mm rear 12mm axle wheels to be used (142mm will also be offered in the very
near future).

The rear adaptors are used in conjunction with further adaptors at the front which enable the chainline to be optimized for each of the rear wheel options.  These comprise a moveable front mech stub and spacers to enable both 73mm and 83mm cranks to be used for optimized chainline.
The rear adaptors are used in conjunction with further adaptors at the front which enable the chainline to be optimized for each of the rear wheel options. These comprise a moveable front mech stub and spacers to enable both 73mm and 83mm cranks to be used for optimized chainline.

The Herb FR and AM both feature adjustable travel; the AM coming with 145mm as<br /> standard whilst the fitment of alternative shocks allow this to be upped to 165<br />and 175mm.  The FR comes with the larger shock as standard so dispenses with the<br />145mm option.
The Herb FR and AM both feature adjustable travel; the AM coming with 145mm as
standard whilst the fitment of alternative shocks allow this to be upped to 165
and 175mm. The FR comes with the larger shock as standard so dispenses with the
145mm option.

Shot peened tubing, aluminium hardware and stainless steel Enduro bearings throughout bring a total weight including shock out at under 4 kg for each with a retail price of EUR2000.  The Herb DH comes with a slightly higher retail price of EUR2400.
Shot peened tubing, aluminium hardware and stainless steel Enduro bearings throughout bring a total weight including shock out at under 4 kg for each with a retail price of EUR2000. The Herb DH comes with a slightly higher retail price of EUR2400.


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64 Comments

  • + 25
 the Herb DH looks awesome! bit lame however that for a 2011 launch they havent even got the latest boxxer forks on the bike.
  • + 10
 I like the name. Big Grin
  • + 3
 Looks awesome.......but they made some really really weird decisions. The full on DH bike has a 135 axle but the FR ones have 135 or 150?

And the wheelbase looks really, really long on the DH.
  • + 2
 You're asking the right question! The FR is a new design and the Herb DH has been around for years and years, maybe this is the answer.
  • + 1
 I love the looks of the Herb AM, but that suspension design just looks like an over complicated 4 bar linkage to me...But you gotta love a 65 degree HA on an AM bike right?
  • + 2
 jesus people. last are from the main European continent that are known for their long and slack bikes (mondraker can get 59degree HA right?) these bikes are just suppose solid reliable bikes, and for the length some people like that.

and suicidedownhiller its JUST a 4bar with smaller link, nothing complicated.
  • + 2
 The Last Herb DH really isnt long, or slack......the Herb AM does look slack, but in the flesh it isnt all that slack.

Im a bit surprised that the Last guys show bikes arent blinged out to the max as they are usually pretty flash, but all of the bikes pictured above are from their demo bike stock so maybe the ones on the stand have a more up to date spec.

I ride for the Last Bikes factory team and you can check out my team bikes here that have a little more up to date specs - hatch.pinkbike.com/album/My-bikes-present
  • - 7
flag elbry (Aug 31, 2010 at 23:08) (Below Threshold)
 only "factory" rider i know that buys his own bikes Wink
  • + 1
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  • + 2
 Ha ha people in glass houses Elb, people in glass houses.......I may not get all my bikes for free, but they are only a small company after all....however I do actually ride on their UK and main factory teams, have alot of contact with the owners of Last and have input into the newer frame designs and future frames hence why I was with the owners of Last in Germany three weeks ago.
  • - 2
 i dont pay for mine so no glass here hatcher.
  • + 1
 its just a good solid workhorse bike really, 5.2kgs is not light by any mines but hopefully that will translate into strength, large diamteter bearings are a good idea as well. the 135/73 seems a bit odd but orange have done that on their 224 evo so it cant be a terribly bad idea. only thing I dont like is the integrated chainguide not having a bashguard
  • + 10
 For publicity of downhill bikes you sud put bikes without rusty bolts Smile
  • + 3
 calm down guys. Last is a really tiny company, so I believe that they simply can't afford to equip all demo bikes with the most recent 2011 parts. Nevertheless they exist till several years and have a strong presence in german dh racing. The Herb DH ist built since years without major changes but small evolutions. 1 year ago I was able to ride a Herb DH and it was very impressive compared to some major dh brands. The rear suspension is rather simpel but quite effective. Very smooth in the beginning stroke but progessive in the end. Although it is a single pivot linkage there was no pedal or brake influence and you could speed up the bike quite easy. The most interesting was, that the bike was equiped with an oldschool fox vanilla rc without any damping magic platform shit like in recent shocks.
  • + 2
 The Herb DH looks like it uses somewhat of a reverse Cannondale Hatchet drive for rear suss. I think it will isolate the rear action to the rear well and have little effect on the front. I also wish I had a Moto 3 as well.
  • + 4
 The rear dropouts scare me.
  • + 3
 What dropouts? :o
  • + 0
 To all who are knocking the forks, the point of this was probably to show off the frame. If your going to make fun of them for having a little out of date components then your obviously missing the point of the whole thing. If the components were made by last then I'd expect 2011 ones. But theyre showcasing their frames, its not like that boxxer is the only one you can use on that bike.
  • + 2
 sick!i like the herb dh! but i agree with devulge96 an others......the boxxers are a bit old for the bike but i live it its sick!
  • + 4
 Herb AM good lookin piece of kit (Y)
  • + 2
 Sick bike, loving the linkage! Would be good to see it in some more colours
  • + 0
 That's cool that the DH bike has it's own proprietary chain device, but honestly I thought that companies would have learned by now that people want a choice, especially with drivetrain.
  • - 1
 Pretty shoddy display bikes tbh seeing as it was eurobike and they are supposed to be in tip top condition. Not cleaned, Frames chipped, i understand that they have been ridden but come on.. not good enough, nice bikes overall though. Correct me if im wrong but ive never seen a Last bike in any other colours except for red and white?

Hmm. Not really impressed.
  • + 1
 I've seen green and white!
  • + 4
 Someone's out of money...
  • + 1
 check the website. currently the herb AM is black and red on there, so much nicer looking. could well be my next bike!
  • - 1
 ye the dh rig just looks well used and dated.. piss poor for euro bike.
  • + 0
 Yeah that one is raped, they had it with them when I was testing with them in Germany 3 weeks ago, its one of their demo bikes.
  • + 0
 dated as in plate gussets
  • + 1
 you two dont like eachother? lol

whats wrong with plate gussets anyway?
  • + 0
 no me and hatch are good mates , all banter, plates just look dated, should stay with 80's bmx bikes
  • + 2
 Well these are quite clearly demo bikes and with Last being a rather small company may not have the money to pay for tip top parts for a bike thats going to get absolutely thrashed, but they are a growing company. Ive ridden Herb DH Frames for about 4 years now and ive been impressed with the quality and just generally how the bikes ride and the support from the company. I'd say last are doing good and are only going to get better..
  • + 2
 09 boxxers on a 2011 bike :s, ahwel decent bike and really cheap.
  • + 1
 They could of atleast put better parts and newer ones on the HERB DH Bike...
  • + 2
 The bikes are dirty because its a demo day!
  • + 3
 sick bike!!tup
  • + 2
 That dh bike is just plain sick, i wanna demo it so bad
  • + 2
 no bashring on the DH?
  • + 1
 that's because it has no ISCG tabs
  • + 2
 you dont need ISCG tabs to run a bashring
  • + 1
 looks like Last's take on the e13 LG1
  • + 1
 i see someone was too lazy to cut the extra shifter cable
  • + 1
 Really nice looking bikes, but as mentioned a little short on prep. Perhaps they were rushed to get the bikes ready for the show?
  • + 4
 it takes less time to cut a cable then to coil it up and zip tie it to the housing. also running the housing up and through the linkage isnt the best choice either...also a old fork and a old shock isnt the best way to show off a 2011 product
  • + 1
 They also did an incredibly poor job routing the rear brake housing. You can see in the bottom of the 4th pic that they used a zip tie through a zip tie around the clamp bolt for the single pivot. Seriously??? It also looks like the brake housing was rubbing on the linkage (where the paint is scraped away) and they put electrical tape around the housing to "fix" the issue.
  • + 3
 yeah, it looks like this demo frame has been making the rounds for a while now. too bad they couldn't have brought a newer frame along with them.
  • + 1
 how much does it cost for the bike??
  • + 1
 pretty cool bikes
  • + 1
 ale kurde wymyslaja
  • + 1
 *love
  • + 1
 Like it!
  • - 3
 dh frontend looks dated
  • + 0
 whats wrong with good old straight tubes?
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