Last Day Randoms - Eurobike 2013

 Agree about the Marin stuff. Not a big fan of their work, but theirs were good.

 Nduro Pro, electric long-travel trail bike. Baby Jesus weeping, not pictured. Hahaha

 Couldn't have said it better. Also, do people actually buy Elsworths??

 There are crap loads of them over here in the UAE. The Philipinos love them… many many blingy colour choices

 That Canyon Torque DHX has got to be on of the best looking bike I've ever seen.

 Did anyone notice that the Morland Cycles gearbox bike still had a derailleur?

 It's a moorland 57 speed dh bike, the pros run only 7 but the industry wants you to think that more is better

 Norco carbon bikes are absolutely delicious

 Gearbox bike with a derailleur... WTF

 Is Blind Bobby actually blind?

 ^^ yes, he is not completely blind, but its like looking through straws from what i have been told. hes an amazing dude, races enduro, sea otter dh....he just has a friend go in front and tell him whats coming up. hes def. an insipiration.

 legally blind. i believe he can see shapes/shadows?? not completely blind, but still damn inspirational

 The bike made out of scaffolding was cool as shit.

 Legally blind which, according to an article I read about blind DH racers, means it's like racing DH with vaseline completely coating your goggles. Dude is an inspiration for sure.

 wow Kona actually CHANGED their suspention system!!

 I'd take that bamboo bike over an electric bike anyday!

 that unchained DH bike was looking ALOT like the new devinci stevie smith is on.

 lots and lots of good looking bikes especially the orange faded dartmoor

 The Norland Cycles Stealth Rider, is not a Gearboxed bike! It just has a redesigned double chain system, and conventioonal gearing sistem. EDITOR'S FAIL DETECTED!!!

 kik me for nudes

 *kicks*

 I'm poor...

 ^^ and how lmao

 Yeah my thoughts exactly I don't know why they keep that ridiculously steep head angle. There new 275 would be a great AM bike had it say a 66 degree head angle.

 Can someone also let them know that the FSR patent has expired? Then maybe they can produce a bike that looks less than 10 years old.

 Not use FSR, or change how it looks? More companies are using FSR now that the patent has expired, so that won't change. Their look is immediately "Ellsworth" which from a brand perspective is great recognition. I think it helps them stand out in a sea of FSR style linkages.

 They already use that tech Steezy
Agree with the age comment though

 I thought the Ellsworth was one of the "dafuq?" bikes...

 I love the way their bikes look and was going to get another one and sell mine but the seat tube is too thin and looks a bit ridiculous. And a dropper post looks silly and any seat bigger than a xc racing seat looks huge and out of place. I wish they would change the head angle also as mentioned then add a fatter seat tube. But apart from that I think there are few better looking bikes out there. And ive never experienced any suspension like theirs, many companies say they suspension feels bottomless but Ellsworths actually does its quite astounding. I used to hit 5/6 foot drops on my Ellsworth Moment and it just felt, well, bottomless

 same sensations with my old rogue...just not keen for the 67.5° head angle on a 8" bike

 I've raced an Ellsworth epiphany 27.5 in an enduro race, the first thing I noticed just looking at it was the steep head angle but the bike handled extremely well in the technical areas and the steeps compared to my Stumpjumper FSR. I'm a fan of that bike for sure!

 Ellsworth says that they can get away with a steeper head angler because of the way their suspension works. I remember reading it somewhere. someone find more info on this.

 Ellsworth of full of shit if thats why they're using as an excuse

 wow,that's a seroiusly deep analysis

 looks like it hit a tree.... fast......

 Those Marin bikes are some ugly looking carbon monstrosities. They need to knock the designer on the head for those. The seat tube braces or what ever they are either side of the top tube look horrendous. And I usually like the look of Marins too. Rock Mountain are killing it too with their new carbon bikes.

 the fireye looks exactly like a commencal.

 ....and whos product winds up in a bargain bin the quickest.

 Situation is bikes are high in their technological perfection already. Much higher than we can actually use it casually, because of our fitness and skill levels, so keeping the progress in bike inventions becomes ironic in my opinion. If you watch the bikes of professional racers they don't differ much from the ones we can buy, or are the same as these available in a while to anybody with cash. So it is very heavily true that we like to have bikes that are best possible, even if unnecessarily and bikes have to bring more and more money to the buisness to keep them existing in present global civilisation.

This way here we are presented by variety of unnecessities offered kindly to help us become faster and better with less and less effort, so we can remain around our average fitness. Having no choice in face of the need of bike industry sustenance, some of us unconsciously will get attracted or forced enough by the news like above, to buy something what is thought to be needed for individual progress and is in fact needed by the industry progress. The industry will keep the buying analyzed and treat it like a true feedback whereas it may not surely direct us all to simply a better performance out there.

There is plenty of researchers working for the indurstry and I would like them to help us with developing skills and fitness more than bikes that are easier to ride. The technology progress is needed but not so much and not so fast. 80% of us ride 2-3 times a week and after 8 x 4 x 3 = 96 rides a year (optimistically) we are offered a brand new DEMO for the half of next season to become familiar to ride on.

 seriously, how hasnt someone thought of the go pro mount light brackets before .... its simple genius. Also a total "why didnt I think of that" picture.

 this one www.pinkbike.com/photo/10035894

 looks 10 times better than fox 36, I hope this would be final product line design for 2k14

 Had the opportunity to test ride a bamboo framed bike a while ago, and while I couldn't have a proper go due to it being too large (or me being too small) one thing astounded me: It rides so smooth! No noticeable flex under power but bumps that have my steel hardtail bouncing around seemed to disappear xD

 I suppose it probably absorbs the light bumps like carbon fiber, rot worries me though here in damp wales!

 Very much like carbon fibre actually, I think that's one of the main things it has going for it. Pretty sure they apply several coats of lacquer etc to weatherproof it, so I'd hope it wasn't an issue, though given how quickly welsh weather takes its toll on most bikes I completely understand your concern.
Pinkbike should do a test on a bamboo bike some time, would be great to see some feedback from people who've ridden such a wide variety of frames

 Agree would love to see Pinkbike test that and also some other bikes made with unusual materials

 Rode a different brand bamboo bike at Interbike a few years ago, though I forget which brand. It was surprisingly awesome. It was a real road-bike, not a fixed-gear/single speed, and it honestly rode better than most carbon frames. Not sure how they deal with the variables going from 1 piece of bamboo to the next, don't think you'd ever get two identical frames, and I'm not sure how they figure out the seat/chain-stays since they're be slightly different side to side, but whatever they did, worked, and worked well.

It was absurdly expensive, otherwise I'd have bought one, but I just couldn't justify Colonago prices for a frame, any frame, no matter how cool it looked.

 Not bamboo, but same principle. Pretty cool bikes www.renovobikes.com/badash-29er

 orange just needs go go away if theyre not going to update their frames with a modern linkage... i dont care how it rides, elevated chain stays are flippin gross..

as for the process, im a huge kona guy.. but i really liked the process before this one.. mainly being that rear yolk link.. looks like you could be like spesh and snap some shock shafts! (still dont understand why anyone thinks thats a good idea)

 I'm just amazed Giant keep routing the cables on the bottom of the downtube. Their race team has been zip-tieing them to the top of the downtube for a few years now. They've made changes to the head angle and other geometry tweaks, is it so hard to move some cable stops? Giant's lack of attention to detail leads me to believe they don't put much thought or effort into the Glory.

 A boxless gearbox!

 The Norland Cycles Stealth Rider, is not a Gearboxed bike! It just has a redesigned double chain system, and conventioonal gearing sistem. EDITOR'S FAIL DETECTED!!!

 Looks like a DNM fork.

 KOWA

 They do indeed look good! Are they compatible with Shimano SPD cleats?

 But are they Panda proof....... Panda is stalkin me.....!!

 Some of the Dabomb stuff is pretty nice - it's just the terrible logo and anodised colours make them look awful.

 Agreed. It's a shame because if they used decent colour schemes and graphics, they'd have TR450 and TR250-alikes in the Tsar Bomba and this new one on here (I forget the name).

Actually my mate works for DaBomb as a tester/designer etc. He could probably get me one at a discount rate but I just don't want one. They don't look cool hey? I'm sure they are fantastic bikes, but not good to look at. You can't dress it up as something else either because of the massive WW2 cross logo machined into the shock tunnel pieces.

Enduro Evo looks a lot better than the Demo in my opinion. Finally a Specialized I might consider buying.

 lol, and nothing about oranges 10 year old bikes that they bring to the same shows every year?

 Well I figured they were in the retro corner with Ellsworth bikes....lol

 They started out in Alaska for riding on snow but they've branched out over the past few years and people are finding they're a lot of fun on other surfaces. Built up with decent parts there lighter than most DH bikes and offer a ton of traction going up and down a hill. The new carbon models coming out this year lighten the bikes so much they're significantly more playful and you won't notice a significant increase in rolling resistance although due to the amount of traction it isn't uncommon for the bars to have a power-steering sensation.

 Try one. You'll have to wide a stupid grin off your face every five seconds. They turn grown men into kids again. You find yourself aiming directly at every boulder and stump on the trail. Traction is ridiculous. You can churn through corners with almost impossible g-forces yet never lose traction. Put simply, they're crazy fun. They're not the fastest but you won't care. You'll be too busy laughing with glee. If you can remember what it was first like to mountain bike and realize just what was possible on a bike, you can have that feeling again. Just hop on a fat bike and monster truck over everything in sight.

 wonder when the day will come!

 lets not forget orange.. theyre in the same boat

 Hahaha, including the ktm? Haha. Ktm and kona have one thing in common: neither should make bikes, but the ones they do are insanely heavy. But i no evyone wants those hope chainguides. They are pretty cool, look a bit like a ripoff of the e thirteens, and probably cost more, but they are pretty dang cool

 GTFO