Madison Saracen DH Team Launched

Mar 4, 2011
by Jacob Gibbins  
On the press day at iceBike*, the Madison Saracen downhill team was unveiled to a packed room of MTB media, sponsors, dealers and VIPs. The new squad is a development team made up of six riders, all under the age of 21.The new 6 rider Team which includes WC champion Manon Carpenter, Elite WC racer Harry Molloy, UK 2010 Expert winner Jack Geoghegan, English Champ Phillip Atwill, PORC series winner Josh Lowe and UK 2010 Juvenile winner Will Weston.

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Harry Molloy, 19, from Kent, also had success on the world circuit in 2010, with a 35th place at Leogang being his top result. They’re joined by reigning national Expert champ Jack Geoghegan, 20, from Hertfordshire; English champ Philip Atwill, 16, from Hampshire; PORC series winner Josh Lowe, 16, from Kent; and 14-year-old Will Weston, from Wolverhampton, winner of the Juvenile category of the 2010 Halo British Downhill Series.


Madison’s CEO Dominic Langan said: “The first year is mainly a development squad, with a couple of people riding the World Cup series. It’s a minimum three-year program, and hopefully we’ll be doing much more beyond that – the aim is to get more riders into the World Cup series. We hope to build that up, and hopefully we can get some champions. We just want to get good British riders out there.”

The 2011 Madison/Saracen downhill team with 2011 team spec Saracen Myst
The 2011 Madison/Saracen downhill team with 2011 team spec Saracen Myst


The red team-issue Saracen Myst may have the same frame as the £2,300 production bike, but it’s decked out with some much fancier kit, including a Fox 40 RC2 fork and DHX RC4 shock, Shimano Saint bits and Funn finishing kit. The squad may be young but they’ll have full factory support, with a massive team truck, their own mechanic and coaching.

This is the 2011 Team issue Saracen Myst downhill bike with Fox suspension, Shimano Saint bits and Funn Finishing kit
This is the 2011 Team issue Saracen Myst downhill bike with Fox suspension, Shimano Saint bits and Funn Finishing kit

First race for the team will be the first round of the BDS at Nant Gwrtheyrn on March 20th so come along and say hello!

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199 Comments

  • + 61
 will weston looks a bit creepy haha
  • + 5
 haha. spot on
  • + 12
 hair helmet'd
  • + 34
 Come on, give him some slack, the kids 14. If he doesn't have Justin Bieber sideways hair, the big kids will steal his lunch money.
  • + 18
 I assumed that would only encourage them
  • + 18
 I hear Saracen had a team put together JUST to engineer his fringe
  • + 9
 Its awesome seeing a company putting out an affordable DH bike and sponsoring young riders. Yeah, Weston's hair looks like an XC helmet, the kid was born to ride! Hope they all have a good season.
  • + 1
 Nice. I was just about to say something about no helmet necessary.
  • - 7
flag Fisnbone08 (Mar 4, 2011 at 15:10) (Below Threshold)
 Wow, the two of you must be some good looking cats. (raak,frozone427) When did you start modeling anyways? Why don't you post up some pics of your pretty faces and beautiful hair so we can pick them a part too. I'd much rather be ridding with Westin any day than walking the runways with the two of you. Give the kid a break.
  • + 16
 Its called banter mate. Chill out.
  • + 2
 so beef!
  • + 3
 All aboard the fringe banter bus!
  • + 7
 choo-choooo! Fisnbone08, my hair cut is very average, nothing to write home about - not really much to critisize TBH, just a regular haircut, standard issue. But that you'd rather be ridin wit ya boi Westin than tearing up the Milan/Paris catwalks with me is just..... just hurtful.
  • + 2
 i wasn't meaning his hair really, he looks a bit like jimmy neutron Razz
  • + 1
 @fisnbone08.- I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU BRO.
  • + 2
 how would u feel if u were an ugly f*ck!? jk
  • + 1
 :-)
  • + 21
 I own the Saracen brand and I thank you all for your good wishes but I want to clear up some facts.

1. Madison bought the Saracen brand name only 2 years ago
2. No factory for manufacture or frame design has been retained
3. We only sell Saracen through independentives bicycle retailers

As much as we love all the jibes about saracen (we expected it to be honest) it is simply all cobblers!

Madison is a professional company. We have designed all the new Saracen bikes from the ground up. We love what we do. I love what I do and we wanttbtye best for Saracen and the team.

We are investing heavily in the brand and we want to earn your support.

Dominic Langan

CEO Madison
  • + 1
 will those bikes be available in canada ? if so how much for that frame ?
  • + 2
 The bike looks like a worthy investment. Good luck with everything.
  • + 22
 That bike is SEX on WHEELS
  • + 15
 Looks like Saracen are really picking up their game!
  • + 5
 Atlast...
  • - 1
 This isn't saracen... this is madison using the name, old saracen your used to seeing is way long gone now, have a look at the whole range, ive ridden an ariel theyre kinda xc trail bike and its amazing aswell especially for the price.
  • + 6
 So its saracen?
  • + 2
 No I think what Jcougarred means is that Madison now own SARACEN but decided to keep the name...So its different owners doesnt mean they got rid of the designers....Well I think thats what he means.
  • - 10
flag done12341234 (Mar 4, 2011 at 13:05) (Below Threshold)
 I heard that Iron Horse bought Saracen???? My friend told me....
  • + 11
 Ironhorse went bankrupt 2 years ago
  • + 1
 Yea pretty much like they have brought nothing from old saracen bar the name, saracen is just a brand madison designed and developed the frame.
  • + 3
 I haven't lived in the UK for ten years, but I remember Saracen being sold in Halfords. Did they get their shit together, or what?
  • + 2
 saracen had a couple of alright bike around the late 90s (trials bikes and a couple of DHs) but ended up just churning out cheap shit for a while. looks like the brand is back, or at least the name anyways. cool team lame ass T-shirts though. lol, but hey they are there to ride bikes not wear T-shirts i guess
  • + 2
 It definitely is a very attractive bicycle.
  • + 1
 Guys, its just the name thats changed hands. The designers are totally new, the bikes are totally new and the whole company is totally new! These are proper high level mountain bikes now, not halfrauds fodder
  • + 1
 I have the new myst frame set and its certainly very good value for money
  • + 4
 Sorry guys, i had no idea about Iron Horse. Im really sorry Frown
  • + 2
 It's okay, we forgive you ^
  • + 5
 Apachemauro your a slow ass punk! Philip Atwill is one of my good mates and we ride alot together, LOOK OUT for this boy, he will be on top of world podiums before long you mark my words, hes one crazy mofo! And if you think they are a 'boy band team' then you should see some of the shit philip and the other guys can do on a bike, it will make you cry! Philip and Jack reppin the berko massif!
  • + 1
 Yeah man Phil kills it big time. Can't gate for shit but that's by the by in downhill.
  • + 0
 phil will win harry phil will WIN!
  • + 3
 I own the Saracen brand and I thank you all for your good wishes but I want to clear up some facts.

1. Madison bought the Saracen brand name only 2 years ago
2. No factory for manufacture or frame design has been retained
3. We only sell Saracen through independentives bicycle retailers

As much as we love all the jibes about saracen (we expected it to be honest) it is simply all cobblers!

Madison is a professional company. We have designed all the new Saracen bikes from the ground up. We love what we do. I love what I do and we wanttbtye best for Saracen and the team.

We are investing heavily in the brand and we want to earn your support.

Dominic Langan

CEO Madison
  • + 2
 fucking rights mate. love that a head honcho has got the balls to come on here and stand up for what they believe. well played fella. i'd have one anyday based on that principle alone.
  • + 3
 Sorry for my typos earlier on but I was on the train.

Please shed all your preconceptions about Saracen.

It is now owned by a new company. The only thing that is the same as the old Saracen is the spelling of the name. You can chose to ignore the facts and perpetuate the myth but for the last two years we have; created all our owned designs, worked with new factories and only sell through independent retailers. What Saracen used to be is irrelevant. Saracen is designed in the UK and undergoes the same quality control procedures in our facilities as Genesis and Ridgeback.

Saracen is a great brand and we will prove it to you and our motives for the team and ongoing brand development are genuine.

regards

Dom
  • + 3
 mate im sure people will come round but it's going to be like the old skoda stigma but since audi took over a few years back every 1 has forgotten the old and im sure it will happen with your bike mate as with skoda its now an audi with a skoda badge, just looking at the team and the bikes they where on last year between them all where on top dh bikes and i don't think they would of put pen to paper if the bike didn't work and they felt it wouldn't get reults. i help run the army down hill team and if i was offered this bike for my team we'd all snap your hand off it's good to see what your doing and the sooner people see past the name and into what the future holds they will come round with egg on there face. good luck this year mate
  • + 4
 If the only thing the same is the name and this name has a poor reputation then why use it? Why not just come up with a new brand name?
  • + 1
 Tbh i have never had any problems with saracen frames, I still to this day own n ride a X-ile mk1 and think its bomb proof! but still i have snapped 1 or 2 other saracen frames wont say make as it was my own fault doing dropoffs way to high one resulting in a snapped wrist Frown bad times

anyhow goodluck with new frames they do look the dogs dangalies Wink

atb macca
  • + 4
 why buy Saracen and not start a new brand? because Saracen has huge brand recognition in the UK and for most of the volume models the consumer is very positive about the brand. There is only is only brand issues at the enthusiast end and we will eventually overcome that i'm sure but to create a brand from scratch is very difficult and very difficult to get retailer support.
  • + 2
 dom don't rise to it this is what pink bike is now it's kids with attitude and nothing to back it up by i think there worried there really expensive bike that DADDY bought is about to be beaten to the podium by oh no a saracen. kids what don't you get it's a saracen sticker and that is it nothing else any more it's a new brand new era. what these are all saying is about stuff from the past and hear say. i can see what you have done and are doing and so will many others apart from the narrow minded on here that have nothing else better to do than slag people down. your team will do the talking and you will be grinning at them all in no time, if some people had a clue about racing etc and new who mannons dad was then they might click on by thinking hmmm these must be good now because mannons dad wouldn't have let her sign for a team that wasn't going to take her to the top and give her a decent bike to use he will have looked at every detail inside out for sure. i bet any little shit on here who was offered this team ride would of said yes
  • + 2
 Just as a side note Dominic - good thinking in getting lots of juniors on the team. Its teenagers that think of saracen as the typical halfords junk brand so if your getting it out there amongst that age group.. your on to a winner and lots of sales! Bike looks great.
  • + 2
 Domininc, bike looks way better in colours - hope you can maintain the low cost though and don't move into the £500 per a year hike like the rest when a little glory comes along-

all the best for the year AND FAIR PLAY for getting a team of young brits on the action!!! .
  • + 2
 people need to look at the bigger picture here it's a young team with a great future and the riders will move on in time to bigger and better deals

but right now they have a chance to be developed for that bigger deal and by doing it on a frame that doesn't cost the earth but sure looks like it works well which in turn will inspire other young kids to think actually i don't need a demo 8 or a v10 and there parents might be able to push 1400 on a frame not 2400 and get the same results from it and keeping this sport real and in touch with the real world,

it's only a name but it's whats under the bonnet now that counts and it seems the engine is there and all it's waiting for is some drivers to thrash it.

excuse me sir would you like this skoda? ha ha a skoda no your ok thanks keep it....

ok sir just thought you might like a car thats now made by porsche same badge of course but.......................

sarecen its the same badge how ever
  • + 2
 I totally love that Saracen are going back to their roots and getting away from the "Halfords bike" reputation.

My first kinda "real" bike was a Saracen X-ile back when I was 12, got them to thank for me getting into the sport!
  • + 1
 Looks utterly sick guys, loving the new saracen bikes and glad they're back on top rather than the shit over the last few years everyone would rather forget about! Also so good to see that slightly less heard of (but nonetheless sick) riders are being given a boost, best of luck this season!
  • + 1
 I think its nice to see people like Dominiclangan doing this sort of thing for the bike indistry. There are too many bike snobs out there. Yes Saracen were making bikes 15 years ago, but times change. I would have Saracen Myst any day. They look very good and affordable which is it very important.
  • + 3
 will be interesting to see how they do against the steve peat syndicate... i know there slightly different but both have a lot of younger riders
  • + 4
 yeah bit of team rivalry will defiantly be going down , nathan vials and harry molloy espcially i think haha they are always neck and neck at races ive been at.
  • - 6
flag apachemauro (Mar 4, 2011 at 12:49) (Below Threshold)
 THE DIFERENCE IS THAT SYNDICATE IS A REAL BADASS RACERS TEAM, NOT THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK 2011
  • + 5
 I think this apachemauro joker is a secret Justin Bieber fan (and look alike)

You really should just stop writing comments because every time you do, you make your self sound like a right clown.
  • - 2
 @ZORBA.- look your profile pic and shut your mouth.
  • + 1
 That obviously isn't me, retard.
  • - 2
 @zorba.- yes! thats you! and you are the retard! hahahahaha! just a retard will post that picture of this face. that means you!!
  • + 4
 you sure its harrry and not harry?

:S

btw good luck to all of the team members!
  • + 3
 Yes josh! hahah gotta see your bike at porc soon, adam said he creamed when he saw it the otherday!
  • + 1
 It's just Harry...
  • + 1
 Will anybody really pay the money for that bike with the name "saracen" on it? to me any many of my friends the bike name saracen has always been linked to cheap sh*te? i'm currently looking for a new bike and i would never look at purchasing a saracen, when you have the likes of santa cruz, giant, specialized and commencal out there or is that just me? they would be better off selling the bikes as madison and removing saracen!
  • + 1
 Whats wrong with promoting a team and company?
apachemauro is just to old to be in young team like that.If you want to be sponsored you need to do what your boss wants.
Or you can ride local trails and be champion in your head.
  • + 1
 @unclemiha.- please! I dont want to be sponsored, please shut your mouth! I ride bikes for fun, I have money to pay my bikes and not to have a boss in what is my sport not my way to earn my food. big diference, so please shut your mouth!
I just say this is the METROSEXUAL TEAM.
  • + 2
 as good as the new bikes may be... id be slightly unhappy moving from lappiere to saracen.. still a sponsorship is a sponsorship so you cant really complain Razz
  • + 3
 Go Manon! The girl's got a serious shot at good WC results! (Hope your arm is all healed up from Windham...)
  • + 2
 Haha, just what I was about to say. Salute
  • + 3
 Sweet to see such a youthful team with already amazing results. Will be watching this team for sure.........
  • + 4
 wow 55kg what a lightweight!
  • + 2
 thats what i was thinking! he needs to eat something!
  • + 1
 whats 55kg in lbs?
  • + 1
 im 59 kilos Blank Stare
  • + 1
 he's only 5'4 ! cant get over that
  • + 1
 121 pounds, isnt that bad..haha im 5'11 and weigh 132
  • + 2
 Harry Molloy and Phil Atwill are TANKS. Harry Molloy gets the best time in the Aston Hill race and Phil Atwill gets like 2 seconds off and he's only in Youth!!! Big Grin
  • + 3
 manon carpenter looks hot!
  • + 2
 Lots of potential for this team to develop. The young atmosphere seems like a lot of fun.
  • + 3
 BIG IT UP FOR THE BERKO MASSIVE
  • + 1
 Manon Carpenter rode a Lapierre last year, this must be a good deal... Mind you, Madison have made it look like a sorted operation.
  • + 1
 This may faworite bike Saracen its best bike ai riding Saracen RAW DX super!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 3
 f*ckking sick bikes Smile
  • + 3
 amazing bikes!
  • + 2
 SEX ON WHEELS ------- The bike
  • + 1
 Wow, apachemauro, what an idiot. Good work on the Team! More DH teams are always good! Cheers!
  • + 1
 @RAILGUNNER.- THIS IS A REAL BADASS TEAM. LEARN SOMETHING.- www.pinkbike.com/news/bikesupport-spanish-dh-team-2011.html
  • + 1
 the bike looks as if it would handle a rock garden well but i just cant see that thing being pedal efficient
  • + 2
 Where can you buy that bike stand?
  • + 1
 Maybe Josh can now get Madison to sponsor the PORC race series! That would be great Big Grin
  • + 2
 Come On Manon Carpenter, you are great you can do it! Im with you!
  • - 2
 shit I just wathched again the video and you know what? GO TO THE HELL WITH THIS STUPID "FASHION DH AWARDS" it looks like they are in the mtv awards , hahahahahahaha! Im just having fun, and rigth now im gonna ride my bike!! I whish so much to crash inthe trees and get blood out of my body, and to hurt myself riding like a manic! i wanna hear heavy metal! HEAVY METAL !!
AND BREAK MY FKN LEG !
  • + 4
 theres something wrong with you
  • + 0
 @matko-cro.- HEAVY METAL!!! THIS IS A REAL BADASS TEAM JUST WATCH .- www.pinkbike.com/news/bikesupport-spanish-dh-team-2011.html
  • + 2
 I would mount Manon Carpenter.
  • + 0
 BOOSH
  • + 1
 Will Weston ^^ , 2nd Bieber ^^ , życze mu powodzenia , ale niech sie zetnie , bo wyglada jak by hełmofona miał : D
  • + 1
 Good luck! Nice bike, riders with some serious potential. Hope they knock out some (more) good results ...
  • - 1
 one reason i wouldn't buy a saracen is its name... there associated with rubbish cheap bikes in the UK i know its a bad way to look at it buy yeah... not for me
  • + 3
 thats what you would think but i have one sat in my garage right now! trust me they are deffinatley not the saracen that we are used to! they are a bike that i would recomend!
  • + 2
 agreed 100% it is an absolutely quality bike no questions asked
  • + 1
 they have them at alpine cycles in innerlethion... wasn't my cup of tea... it really does look a little halfords up close im not one of those people who say my bikes the best btw... i think my norco isn't the best at jumping but it can plow like anything..
  • + 2
 That's what everyone said about Iron Horse prior to 2004.
  • + 3
 Both my flatmates have the Saracens - both the full build and a custom built. They are not plow bikes - they are light and nible downhill bikes while remaining slack. If I had one myself I couldn't ask for more.
  • + 2
 One of the guys at my work brought a ariel and it was fantastic another guy in the shop just brought a myst and says it rides quite similar to a v10 but with more pop, i think it is a quality bike, if i didnt already have a dh bike and wanted to get into it then id buy one no questions.
  • + 2
 Saracen used to make quality bikes back in the day. Good to see them return to form.
  • + 1
 ^
Agreed, Saracen used to make some of the best bikes years a go, but they lost their reputation through Halfords.
Now Madison have re-newed them andthey have bought out some quality bikes; this DH bike being one of their best.
They have definitley upped their game since Madison took over.
  • + 1
 dingus 'Saracen used to make quality bikes back in the day.' Saracen never made quality bikes back in the day, they were shite Halfords bikes that never had a good reputation. The new ones look like sweet though..
  • + 2
 Before that though...
  • + 2
 the saracen I had in '91 was superb, quad tubing, e-stay, maguras, DX groupset - way before v-brakes were around...
www.pinkbike.com/photo/5343110
  • + 1
 Haha Somemorestuff, your bike history is absolutely top notch, nothing but the best for like 20 years
  • + 1
 This looks promising for Saracen. Pretty good team on really good bikes.
  • - 14
flag apachemauro (Mar 4, 2011 at 9:16) (Below Threshold)
 GOOD BIKES. weak team. are they playing with barbies, where is the real agresive Dh shit???? this makes me feel depress.
  • + 2
 weak team? you need your head seeing to
  • + 3
 apashemauro stfu, looks like a pretty sick team, amazing sponsors! and Really really glad to see they have a chick on their team! Its always good to the the ladies wanting to rip downhill! Good luck to the team!
  • + 3
 " apashemauro, I just read more of your comment, Dude, your just pissed that your a washed up mountain biker, that you have no chance going anywhere, encourage the kids man, stop being a D-dag and encourage people to ride man, your making the sport look bad! So go ride your bike and have fun. end of story.
  • + 2
 GOOD BIKES. weak team?? what drugs are you taking mate!!! all the riders that i know on this team are mentally skilled on their bikes you crazy mother f*cker!! Smile
  • + 1
 you think the team is weak?! im good mates with phil atwill and if you see him go down a hill you will be the one whos weak mate
  • + 2
 Nooo ahaha , i meant that as a quote from another comment that some twat wrote , Phil is crazy fast
  • + 1
 apachemauro is right those people are puny...
  • - 1
 THIS IS A REAL BADASS TEAM. LEARN SOMETHING.- www.pinkbike.com/news/bikesupport-spanish-dh-team-2011.html
  • + 1
 ya dude its called being a pro come out from under ur rock there are a lot of people like that take a trip to whistler and reconsider your thoughts.
  • + 0
 @YOU.- I LIVE IN WHISTLER, WE RIDE FOR FUN, REAL DH TRACKS, NO XC TRAILS.
  • + 1
 WELL MAYBE THESE PEOPLE RIDE TO RIDE, NOT JUST TO HAVE FUN. AND WHY DID U SAY THAT WAS A BADASS TEAM IF U DONT LIKE THEM?
  • + 0
 www.pinkbike.com/news/bikesupport-spanish-dh-team-2011.html you ll probably need to sign in yo see the link i posted.
  • + 1
 yea dude what the hell do u think iv been talking about.
  • + 1
 55kg!? And I thought I was really lightweight being an XC racer!
  • + 1
 I wonder if Manon is 'des sources' of their inspiration..?
  • + 1
 So you wasted your youth in art house cinemas too?
  • + 1
 nicest downhill bike ive ever seen!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 these kids are so lucky that they are sponsored!
  • + 1
 they have Justin Bieber on the team! xDD
  • + 2
 no just a fake one...like the many clones he has...
  • + 1
 those people are so small lol were the hell are they from? rofl
  • + 1
 THOSE ARE "THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK"
  • + 1
 thats sick. I wish I had the chance to get sponsered
  • + 1
 Why would you have a 14 year old on a team like this?
  • + 3
 Investing in the future, if this is a long term project then they will be able to train up a seriously good dh racer for the next few years Smile
  • + 1
 wow AWERSOME they rip those berms in that vid!
  • + 1
 By the way, I respect the girl. she is very good rider.
  • + 1
 OH WOW IM GOING TO HAVE ONE
  • + 1
 gona buy this frame 1400 is a really good price Big Grin
  • + 2
 i'm feeling old
  • + 1
 wow
  • + 1
 really hot bikes!!
  • + 0
 Wow what!!!? This is cool for them, so young!
  • - 1
 No northerners WHAT'S GOING ON? We all know all the best downhillers are from up here Peaty need i say any more
  • + 1
 Lew Buchanan, Cunningham, Ben Cathro?
  • + 1
 orange bikes
  • + 1
 Beautiful bikes!
  • + 1
 this team is gunna pwn
  • + 0
 what a huuuge factory!! nice..!
  • + 0
 they are all small, besides molly
  • + 0
 im sure they will kill it this year
  • - 1
 nice looking bike and I'm loving the rear end but I predict that the bearings will have an extremely short life span...
  • + 0
 good riders.
  • - 1
 Who would have thought saracen would have got to pro DH bike stage...
  • + 0
 Ladies on bicycles
  • - 2
 haha i think your all twats tbf
  • + 3
 Go troll elsewhere then
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