Video: Marzocchi's Tech Behind The New Suspension

Sep 10, 2013
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Marzocchi 380 C2R2 Ti - Moto C2R - DBC Tecnology | MY2014

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Marzocchi MY 2014 - After 10 years of racing and breathtaking results, the most successful fork made by Marzocchi, the 888 is ready for a new evolution 380 C2R2 Titanium. Moto C2R rear shock is the most amazing coil spring rear race platform that performs at its best when coupled with the 380. Then, a deep look into DBC Hybrid Technology.

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150 Comments
  • 88 1
 waiting for the R2D2 fork
  • 63 1
 the one with the c3p0 damper?
  • 28 2
 And the IG-88 remote lockout.
  • 21 2
 Your wookies need a suspension overhaul too eh?
  • 59 1
 These aren't the forks you're looking for..
  • 49 2
 May the fork be with you...
  • 10 17
flag freeride-forever (Sep 10, 2013 at 21:22) (Below Threshold)
 ROFLMAO!!!! "May the fork be with you..." Love it!!
  • 5 4
 It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense
  • 7 2
 Its a trap
  • 1 7
flag stinky-deluxe-smith (Sep 11, 2013 at 11:32) (Below Threshold)
 rockshox make the boxxer r2c2 .. probably the closest to star wars name as you'll get
  • 8 0
 and manitou built the deathstar
  • 3 0
 DVO seem to have built Yoda.
  • 34 3
 Love this, they really couldnt have made a better video to market there suspesion and I have definitley got my eyes open for theie suspension in the near future, nice to see such a good brand who had such a reputation now be able to get more appeal as they have made a very light downhill fork. best of luck guys
  • 16 3
 Guess I'd better get ready to sell one of my lungs to afford one of these... *Sigh*
  • 5 3
 I'll buy it if a Dr. can make it work in my body! Imagine long distance running, I could basically sprint it and set all kinds of world records because of how epic my breathing capacity would be..... and swimming too..... Private msg me and you my friend might be on the way to a Marzocchi 360 fork!
  • 4 2
 I own Marzocchi 55 CR 2013, what can I say, they are AMAZING, had FOX Talas 36 rc2 fit, on marzocchi I have +10mm travel and oh man I'm so happy to have them, sexy stuff
On my next project it has to be 380. I trust these guys and I wish them all the best in the future.
  • 2 10
flag zakfreeridefreek (Sep 10, 2013 at 15:08) (Below Threshold)
 I like Marz... But one of my biggest problems with their DC forks is the direct mount stem. The design of how it screws from underneath and clamps to the steerer is stupid. Makes things so hard. Plus the stems available is nearly none.. They need the top down way like fox and RS
  • 10 1
 Which upon looking again I think they have done Smile
  • 1 1
 I was just gonna say the same thing til I looked
  • 5 0
 they fixed that like 2 years ago
  • 2 0
 well done I own 888RC2X upgraded with Avalanche cartridge, and performs so well, and since 2006 it still run the original seals, i cant find other better fork just the chassis is a bit heavy but got used to it, now this new 380 deff got my eye's on it i hope it will be on reasonable prise cheaper than FOX, DVO ... otherwise it's not worth buying new fork on the prise of the new frame Smile
  • 1 3
 That is one fucking cool ad for suspension and all the new stuff looks superb. Amazing design and engineering superbness. Made me wanna buy it and I dont even ride downhill.
  • 3 0
 Those avy upgrade carts are awesome in old 888s. Makes it better than new. The original marz seals last long time. Those blue enduros are garbage. I waiting to see the pricetag before getting excited about this new joint.
  • 19 3
 Hopefully will be back to thier old plushness with up to date damping
  • 14 1
 For Sale: one used, but above average size left testicle. Good working order, and only racked a handful of times.
  • 2 0
 i'm really in the market for a right one, but thanks.
  • 13 1
 Lance Armstrong, is that you?!
  • 5 0
 I see what you did with "handful".
  • 12 6
 "The only fork 100% 26/27.5 compatible on the market" ? Well I know this is all marketing stuff, but all the 27.5 forks on the market ARE 26" compatible (and all the 29" forks are 26 and 27.5 compatible) Smile
Same with the "most advanced coil fork" ... Well on what grounds? ^^

But that aside, I do hope Marzocchi to have the old fame back. The 380 is a big improvement over the 888, especially on the damper side ... the day of underdamped forks has finally started to come! Smile
  • 9 1
 I think the difference between 26" and 27.5" lowers is more that just the length, they have a different trail and so on! So I'm not sure if it's wise to put a 26" wheel into a 27.5" fork!
  • 2 0
 I don't know for the 380, but for a Pike, the offset is slightly different (when using a 26" wheel on a 27.5 fork), which results in a slightly longer wheelbase, but slightly more agile front end. It's all a game of compromise Smile
  • 1 9
flag Motomaster (Sep 10, 2013 at 11:46) (Below Threshold)
 Yea thats a stupid comment, my Dorado is compatible and I believe other forks are as well. More marketing BS from the Teneco.
  • 1 0
 With Dorado's you have to remove the stancions and turn a know inside of the uppers and add some spacers to make them a true 27.5 inch fork which is not hard but it is ill advised to simply put on a different wheel size so I think maybe the 308's might also be like this as well
  • 1 0
 The X-Fusion RV1 is fully 26"/650b compatible.
  • 1 0
 so is the 40 float but i believe both of them need alterations between the two weather it be a lower leg or a crown swap, i think what the zokes are saying is that you can pull a normal wheel out and stick a bigger one in without changing a thing
  • 1 0
 Nah, the 26" 40 float isnt meant to be used with 27.5 wheel, and the 27.5 float isnt meant be used with 26 wheels. They're two different models
  • 1 1
 as i was saying you need to change the lower legs in order to make the new 40 27.5 compatible
  • 12 3
 888 are the most reliable iv been on fit and forget
  • 8 1
 Gay, bring back the super monster t.
  • 5 1
 If they brings the Marzocchi girls back, they wouldn't need to use all this high tech stuff!. But honestly, I would like an open bath design.
  • 4 2
 Am I the only one who sat here and thought that none of this is really ground breaking stuff (besides the removable cartridge on the 380)? Also, it's cool their fork can fit both 26" and 27.5"s but to people who only have one wheelset, who cares?? To me, just being brash, it seems that lightness is their biggest advancement, and those strides were made in the geometric removal of existing material, not in any space-age, ground breaking new materials. To be blunt, none of these products are as attractive as DVO's new emerald lineup.
  • 2 0
 Yeah..thats one "groundbraking" fork :rolleyes:
Leave alone the warranty and resistance for products like them...but everybody bashes on Zokes for that matter ...pathetic
  • 2 0
 Rock Shox (lightness) and Marzocchi functionality / ease of servicing isn't enough for you?

Go back to stiff overpriced Fox then.
  • 3 0
 888 2011 and onwards is one of the best packages in terms of performance and reliability!!! really hope the 380 is one step ahead!!! that would make it the KING OF FORKS!!!!
  • 1 0
 I have had a bounce around on a se of these. Smooth as! Really plush. The rider said there the best forks he's ridden, though he is sponsored n gets them serviced a lot, (with the rest of his bike tbf.)
Time will tell how reliable they really are. Smile
  • 1 1
 Though not related to the 380, I have a 55 micro Ti with about 100 or so hours on it, no problems. Put air in and rode it for about 70 hours before I needed air again. The weakest settings are the compression damping, but it does work. I have the volume adjust and that helps you fine tune the air spring from super cushy small bump to pretty firm. It's a solid fork and still runs super smooth. Had crown issues with the Marz 44 fork, the fork I could afford btw, and after boxing it up a 3rd time for warranty, called and paid extra for a fork upgrade. Still a bit more than I wanted to spend, but I'm very happy with it. And I also had the same crown issues with a Fox 32 and 36, but they said I might have to change my riding style, which is fat and old, but still pretty fast.. haha.. I am already saving for the 55cr, if it's anything like the micro, but with more compression, won't be swayed away from Marzocchi again..
  • 1 1
 Why not make a DJ fork sharing the same technology?

Except the 27.5 compitability stuff and double crown (obvious)

Dirt jumpers need sturdy, near maintain free forks too! Coils would be a better choice than air, but your dj forks atm is .. not an option.
  • 1 0
 Dj's don't need high/low speed compression or high/low speed rebound adjustments. A stiff and progressive spring rate and a single rebound control are enough.
  • 2 0
 seeing as most dj ers pump their fork up so firm that it barely moves id question the need for a highly sophisticated damper in a dj fork but hey, if you want to burn cash, knock yourself out Wink
  • 1 1
 Unbelieveably marzocchi has ditched Ti springs and 20mm axles for their enduro line, and reverted to air springs. What`s the reason then for running zocchi, if you basically get a pike/float36 with a red M on it? Please tell me I can retrofit my 26r 55 rc3 ti internals with a small travel-limiting bumper to the new 650b 350-series fork, or can retrofit the 350 650b lowers to my 55s?
  • 2 1
 Marzocchi are using a new manufacturer (it was Suntour, it's now Hodaka), as well as ditching the ti springs they've ditched the open bath dampers too. It's the biggest change in design for Zocchi in at least a decade (barring the TST/ATA debacle).

Whether this works long term remains to be seen, but the cartridge damper at least is reliable, it's in this year's 55 CR and no problems cropping up. The air/coil spring is proving pretty good too. That's good, the last time Marzocchi sold a cartridge damper they gave us TST, anyone else spend weeks and weeks doing warranty service on burst TST bladders?
  • 1 1
 only 60ml of oil level each leg is that a joke wow that's not much for open bath the other question is it open bath or some kind of hybrid they say, i wonder when the oil get's hot 60ml how it will perform on a long harsh run on a steep trail when the temp outside is 35C + Razz also less oil means less lubrication and the parts will worn out quite fast and u will need to change the oil quite often too ... I still love my 888 RC2X AVA that runs with 200ml never had any issues low maintenance great performance...
  • 5 1
 Tapered steerer Frown
  • 1 0
 On their website it looks optional. Can anyone confirm? No point having to buy a new headset too.
  • 1 2
 i am not a supporter of tapered steerers, but the industry as a whole is moving to tapered, so get used to it.
  • 2 0
 Most modern frames feature 1.5" headtubes anyway, so fitting shouldn't be the problem, but I don't see the point anyway
  • 1 0
 the new giant glorys already come with boxxers that have tapered steerers, makes sense seeing as almost all good frames are tapered now, only means that you cant stick an angleset in there, besides if you are upgrading from a good single crown fork on a medern bike then chances are that would be tapered so its not as daft as you might think
  • 1 0
 I thought dual crowns were rigid enough to be fine with a straight 1.1/8 tube
  • 1 0
 yes the extra crown offsetts the loss of stiffness compared to a single crown but i suppose putting a tapered tube on it means that you can remove some stiffening material somewhere else on the fork and reduce the overall weight of the fork without intorducing flex
  • 1 0
 That's fair enough, but I'd rather have a straight tube and the ability to alter the HA angle
  • 1 0
 bear in mind that anglesets are not the only way to adjust the head angle, there's always offset shock bushes and some frames have flip chips in them so you can adjust the geometry that way too Wink
  • 1 1
 I know a guy who's using offset bushes and he says the difference is so small it's not worth it. The angleset is of course not necessary, but it's a nice touch
  • 1 1
 i use both offset bushes and an angleset and the bushes made a bigger difference because they drop the bb more, this put my weight through the rear shock so much more that i had to go up a spring weight on the rear shock!!! definately makes a difference
  • 1 0
 I guess it depends on the size of hardware and mounting bolts, in some cases an offset bushing will give you a bigger difference than in other cases. Apparently, it doesn't do much to 2010+ Glorys
  • 35 34
 OK Marzocchi OK...I see you want to play in the big leagues again. If your stuff finally proves reliable, I'm willing to give you another look.
  • 74 9
 They are already known for being the most reliable and not needing service... where have you been? have you ever owned a 888?
  • 8 5
 and in 2007/8?
  • 9 3
 how it works is simply genius Smile don't like the looks of it(compared to kashima 40) but this fork is amazing!
  • 10 1
 That's the past and they already changed that... 2010 forwards have been reliable so as of late they are known as being reliable. lots of companies have had a bad year but they already overcame it prior to this article and his comment.
  • 9 0
 I beat the shite out of a 2004 Marzocchi. Never leaked after eight years of abuse on the North Shore. I finally retired it because the probability of failure was too great to ignore. But still was a great fork.
  • 10 4
 I own an RC 3 888 and the customer service sucks ! I ve lost the compression NUT and am Unable to buy one ! I ve emailed EACH AND EVERY marz dealer ! and contacted marzocchi HQ as well .....
  • 4 7
 They've come back pretty well, but they still had a ways to go in my mind. I just didn't think they were as competitive as they could be. There were still some issues with the new stuff, but overall they were much improved. However, once you tarnish your name, it's hard to win your customers back and renew faith in the brand. A complete re-imagining of their flagship downhill fork is a good start. It's more than just switching where your forks are manufactured. This new fork looks really promising and signifies a potential return to form them. It looks great stacked against current offerings, and the reduced weight is also welcome. Downhill forks are a significant monetary investment and you always want to make sure you're getting the best possible performance and reliability for your dollars. You also want a company that stands behind their products and their previous warranty support was very poor. I'd like to see more evidence that things have turned around.
  • 3 5
 Bloody hell ... I'm interested in these forks but that video almost put me into a coma.. would of worked better having a techie talking us thru it.
  • 5 14
flag Motomaster (Sep 10, 2013 at 11:33) (Below Threshold)
 Don't buy the marketing hype. The old stuff was great but the guys behind this project left the company, there are no spare parts to be had, production is sketchy, and the Engineer Project Leader Umbo is the genius who invented the ATA forks. Man, can't believe he wasn't fired! Good luck Marzocchi cause you are going to need it!
  • 11 1
 Marzocchi in my eyes was always the industry leader for the exception of a few bad years. Marzocchi acquisition by Tenneco was a strategic merger which provided a bloodline for the company to continue producing and innovating their products for our pleasure. I never understood how such an awsome company could loose so much of the mtb market share to unreliable RockShox and overpriced Fox suspension products. I believe in Marzocchi to climb its way to the top again with their new line of products.
  • 4 7
 Marzocchi was really coming back for sure then Teneco jacked them up. I talked to the Marzocchi guys in Whistler and they still seemed really unhappy about the Tenneco management, not much has changed I guess. Teneco makes $4 car shocks, what do they know about high end MTB suspension anyway? Word on the street is they are trying to put lipstick on a pig and sell it asap.
  • 2 3
 @Motomaster, if what you say is true, then that's a really sad turn of events for a company that had already lost much of its previous credibility and pedigree.
  • 2 2
 @Motomaster, Well lets hope whoever makes a deal with Tenneco next is a sensible partner who knows the high end mtb market. As a Marzocchi fanboy I want to see this work.
  • 2 3
 Yea its a real shame for sure, but that's what big corporate companies do when they buy something with no intention of keeping and investing in it. It seems they have very little or zero OEM spec and aftermarket sales are struggling. The product might be good but where will the support be after you buy it? Thanks Teneco for tanking another cool company.
  • 8 2
 2008 called, it wants it's shit talk back.
  • 3 5
 I wasn't just 2008. They've had internal issues for awhile now that affected your confidence in the company and the products it produced. It's hard to justify dropping big coin on something that you might not get any after-purchase support for. I have a 2009 66 RC3 in my garage with a cracked steer tube and have a few friends who have had issues with 2010 and 2011 product that received poor support from Marzocchi USA.
  • 1 2
 @someguy101, I hope so too cause I used to support that company!
  • 2 5
 @BaeckerX1, it all comes from the parent company in Italy. Just another Fiat company mentality "fix it again tony"!
  • 3 1
 2008-2009... I own a 2011 888 that has been very reliable, also a 2012 66 rc3 Ti, that too, butter smooth and trouble free.
  • 2 1
 Marzocchi RC2X WC 2007 - Ride one or two years and it looks like you have serviced in the same day Big Grin

I got it in my 2008 Glory.

Now I have to buy the 380 for the 2014 Glory
  • 3 0
 @Motomaster, hmm Fiat-Chrysler is doing quite well I think.
  • 4 6
 Fiat and Marzocchi are sitting like the Costa Concordia is, half sunk off the coast of Italy.
  • 3 3
 @Darkstar, I'm willing to try a current generation 888, but not at full retail price or even close to it. I think only premium companies with premium products deserve top dollar and I don't think Marzocchi is there. Quality comes from a number of factors. That's just my opinion and I think I'm entitled to it. My experience in dealing with them has always left a bad taste in my mouth and it portrays a company that doesn't yet have its shit together. Also, they may be better quality than they were before, but don't go talking about them like they're the Honda of the bike world, cause they're not.
  • 3 3
 I never said they were the Honda of forks.... but I think it's unfair to dismiss a fork you have not tried because of issues five years ago. I love both my newer Marzocchi's and I also owned an '08 so I went through the hardship. I actually am in love with my Lyrik right now and my next dual crown will likely be a Boxxer, and it's only because of how fast I am on it. The Zocchi is plush, and rides into the travel more, the Lyrik has more authority and lately Im liking that. I also like the serviceability of the Rock Shox....
  • 7 0
 the beauty of marzocchi forks is they don't turn to ash if they're used for more than half a dozen rides without a service, it baffles me why FOX are so highly regarded when their products are so flimsy. fox forks look pretty but both rockshox and marzocchi feel better to ride and need far less pampering to keep them working.
  • 1 0
 I remember a time that when Marzocchi wanted to make an announcement of new stuff it was to the sound of metal and the sight of hucking to flat! (not to mention the babes). only grippe i got about marzocchi is that you need a F@king press (or a lot of zip ties) to remove the spring on the roco, i hope they fixed that on the moto!.
  • 4 0
 I think this is breaking point for marzo. im loving the new kit, it looks sweet (although id prefer gold race stanchions to the nickel tbh). they just now need to be reliable and backed up by freely available parts. without that it doesn't really matter how good they are, as you'll have £1100+ of trash the minute something fails.

I'm sat here with fingers crossed tho, used to love the old marzo kit pre 2006. also wheres the 360? thats what they really need. 180mm 38mm stanchion FR fork to take up the 66 crown. Man the original 66 was awesome Big Grin


P.S i love the ragging that boxxers get, theyre not the best i admit but at least they do last and parts are relatively cheap (although the boxxer R2C2 internals are sky high to stop people upgrading the RC). Generally RS internals are widely available and at a good price.
  • 2 0
 Barbaroza- jensonusa.com has them.
  • 2 1
 www.ukbikestore.co.uk/productlist.aspx?page=1&dep=85

Now I need to know the shock Price
  • 1 1
 I remember reading that what made the 888 so reliable was mainly that the oil volume was huge compared to other forks so it needed less maintenance but it had a negative effect on performance overall. If I'm not mistaken, with the CR380 they have much less oil in them now so wouldn't that put them back on par with the other forks maintenance wise?
  • 1 0
 I think the only negative with that much oil is weight. I have a 888 rcv and it calls for 250 ml of oil compared to 30 ml in a Fox 40. Imo Zokes has the best open bath cartridge.
  • 1 0
 From the first ride article: "This design [open bath] made for exceptionally smooth performance due to there being enough oil to slosh about and lube the fork's bushings, although it couldn't meet how a closed or semi-closed damper performs when talking consistency because of that very same sloshing effect." So if it's not all out open bath but an hybrid of OB, closed and semi closed systems now, there's going to be less oil in there. I'm just curious as to what it means to the maintenance free legacy they have created.
  • 1 0
 boxxer RC calls for 290ml of 5w + 40ml of 15w in coil side lower and a further 10ml in the damper side so it isnt that bad. DVO are quoting 400ml in the emerald. plenty of oil to keep things lubed up is where its at even if it does add weight. Think a 40 has more than 30ml, im sure its just 30ml in the lowers + whatever is in the cart.

the thing that gets me is when its like the boxxer RC or a cartridge fork and all the oil is in the cart/damper, not the lowers and every year they trim the weight its the oil in the lowers thats reduced. Surely thats the vital part to keeping them smooth with long service intervals? Damping can be retuned for less oil volume with shims etc can it not ?
  • 1 1
 Iv always wonderd why no mtb fork has used a shim stack and if any one has striped a Showa fork you will see looks very similar! But what we all want to know will you get your pants back after buying them !! Great vid!
  • 1 0
 Manitou has, for about the last eleven years. X Fusion, Rockshox and Fox too, although not as in the handy removable plug you get here or on a Manitou. They're out there, but without pulling one apart it can be hard to penetrate the marketing BS and actually find out what's really in the fork you're being sold, Fox and RS in particular seem to love downgrading dampers but giving them flashy sounding names....
  • 2 1
 Slighty off topic but if 27.5" tire selection was not so horrible and skinny a 27.5" front and 26" rear bike would be so awesome!
  • 4 0
 There are plenty of 650b tires out there that are big and fat how you like it.
  • 1 0
 Well I guess for me a 2.5 is a skinny tire. But I guess you can barely buy any fat 26" tires anymore either.
I still like the 27.5" front and 26" rear idea though.
  • 1 0
 Kenda telonix comes in 2.6 but it measures closer to 2.7.
  • 1 0
 My Hutchinson Cougar 2.2s measure out at 2.3 at the edges of the tread. They are plenty of meat for am/enduro riding.
  • 4 1
 to me this looks like a REAL competitor to the 40

if its reliable Wink
  • 2 0
 sure looks good that 380.. lot of shaved weight, hope its stay strong!! and weight of the shock?
  • 1 0
 Não sei quanto pesa Luis, mas sem mola, eles disseram que é o amortecedor de coil mais leve do mercado.

www.marzocchi.com/Template/listProdotti.asp?LN=UK&idC=1592&IdFolder=552
  • 1 0
 some marketing department has been studying video games and action movies...
  • 1 0
 Marzochi where are your girls? I wanna see some girl pics rocking in my forks!
  • 7 4
 My next Fork and Shock
  • 3 2
 Will fit really good in a GIANT Glory 2014, someone will want a Vivid? Big Grin
  • 1 0
 www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/67106/Marzocchi_380_C2R2_Titanium_Tapered_2014_Forks

Better price than UK bike store, same price on 1 1/8 steerer also Wink
  • 3 1
 I like the idea of the preload screw
  • 2 0
 The Moto C2R looks hella sexy !
  • 3 0
 5:30 TIERS
  • 2 0
 I had to rewatch to understand that, How'd they miss that! Lol They can make great forks and shocks, but can't spell.. Bring on the butt hurt
  • 2 1
 Can someone do a side by side comparison of how this thing matches up performance wise to the current 888 offering?
  • 5 0
 Dude this is Pink Bike not Mountain Bike Fiction! What would happen if the old 888 worked better than the 380? Oh my.....
  • 1 0
 Very good point! What ever happened to all the education and self tuning, shim stack adjustments training, etc. that they promised us over the years? I hope Marzo can improve here.
  • 2 0
 I just want an 160mm single crown with the same features of the 380.
  • 1 0
 it will come, they did it with the 55 when they brought the 888 out so i cant see why they wouldn't have a 350 in the pipeline
  • 2 0
 Öhlins upside down is coming soon ... save your money and your time ...
  • 1 1
 Only thing that grinds my gears about their suspension, is the chrome finish on the stanchions. Other than that they are AMAZING! Glad to see this from them.
  • 3 2
 Hopefully it doesn't weight a ton... 2760g
  • 4 1
 I guess you didn't see the portion that stated it weighed 6.06LBS?
  • 8 1
 Well since a ton is 2000 pounds, and there are 454 grams in a pound, I'd say it's a bit under a ton.
  • 1 0
 Thats y here in Rincon MTB Pro Shop we love mountain bikes..
  • 1 0
 I didn't read much but it seemed cool as fck
  • 1 0
 If only i had $2300 lying around...
  • 1 0
 I can't wait until they release the 420
  • 1 0
 HA
  • 1 0
 This is the most boring level of Mass Effect I have ever played
  • 1 1
 Wtf is that music. This needed some propper music and sound design not a shity disco music, used in cheap p**n.
  • 1 0
 Arrrgghhh - Manitou Mattock or 55 CR - so many good choices this year!
  • 1 0
 with the music i was expecting go-go girls. very dissapoint i am.
  • 1 3
 Since i found SrSuntour parts in my old 55 i swore never to buy Marzocchi again but times change and so do opinions. Looks very nice!!
  • 7 1
 Suntour used to make all marzocchi forks and now makes DVO stuff. What your point?
  • 2 0
 You're so right smgishot
  • 1 1
 but the question is, will there be any colored stanction tubes? Big Grin
  • 1 1
 my understanding is that marzocchi will hard-anodize any stanchions if you order directly through them...but i've seen a few where the color had rubbed off an faded after a few months
  • 1 0
 doubtful.
  • 1 0
 Ah, I see Razz I wanted to get Green stanchions to make my bike build Razz
  • 1 3
 My friends 2011 888 has the back ano finish on the stanchions starting to rub off... stock seals and proper oil levels. Anyone else having this issue?
  • 4 0
 .. stock seals! it's a 3 year old fork with no seal replacement! of course things are going to happen like that. you should replace the seals and rebuild the fork on regular intervals.
  • 1 2
 It wasn't ridden until this summer
  • 1 3
 Steerer that does not work with adjustable headsets No maxle Silver finish... probably go black like other marz. Still very much stuck in the past.
  • 1 1
 looks really good so far
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