Pinkbike Product Picks

Dec 30, 2011
by Mike Levy  
Easton Havoc Carbon handlebar

Easton proudly proclaims that their Havoc Carbon bar is "the strongest mountain bike bar Easton has ever built (aluminum or carbon)", and goes on to say that it performed better than any other bar that they have tested on their machines. Those are some big claims, but the DH oriented Havoc Carbon also comes to the fight with a relatively light weight, for a 750mm wide bar, of 235 grams. That's around 100 grams lighter than many other DH bars. Easton's use of carbon fiber is the main reason for the lack of heft, but the "TaperWall" construction method used to manufacture the Havoc Carbon likely also plays a major roll. In its simplest terms, TaperWall refers to Easton using more carbon where it's needed and less where it isn't. This is by no means a new idea - frames and other components, bars included, have been using this methodology for ages - but Easton looks to have quite a handle on the the process judging by their confidence in the Havoc Carbon bar. It is available in a single 750 width and 20mm rise option, with a 9° bend and 5° degree upsweep. The bar uses a matte, unidirectional carbon finish, as opposed to Easton using a purely cosmetic carbon weave that would add grams to the relatively light 235 gram weight. The Havoc Carbon bar retails for $160 USD. www.eastoncycling.com


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The Havoc Carbon bar doesn't come cheap, but it's both light and stiff.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesThe Havoc Carbon bar not only felt like home for our hands as soon as we put it on, but more than one tester also claimed that he could feel an improvement in stiffness, despite coming straight off of a much heavier aluminum bar. Is the difference enough to actually improve the handling of your bike? The answer to that question likely depends on how aggressive you ride, but there is no doubt in our minds that there is certainly a rigidity gap between other aluminum bars we've used and the Havoc Carbon. It's comfortable, stiff and light, but it certainly isn't as idiot proof as a run of the mill aluminum bar. Easton recommends using both a torque wrench and a carbon friendly friction paste during installation, and it is well worth spending a few minutes to make sure that there are no burrs on any of the aluminum control's clamping surfaces. Our single complaint stems from having our brake levers rotate a little too easy when crashing, even when tightened down quite snug. Having them rotate from a crash isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the marks that the clamps left in the bar's clear coat certainly are, even if they weren't deep enough to compromise the bar in any way. Despite the slippery surface, the Havoc Carbon is still one of our favorite bars due to its light weight, high stiffness and great comfort. - Mike Levy




Michelin tire lever

With a flat, wide shape and shallow bead hook that looks like it would be ineffective at helping in any way, Michelin's bright yellow tire levers look quite different from most offerings. The extremely thin levers are hard to come by these days, but can still be found in bike shops that are in-the-know, usually sold in packages of three. Michelin's tire levers retail for $5.00 USD. www.michelin.com


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Michelin's tire lever looks odd, but works very well.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesDespite their flat, wide shape having us believing that they would be quite flexible, the bright yellow Michelin levers are surprisingly stiff and as flex free as other more substantial levers. The shallow hook at the end of the lever easily forced its way under even the most stubborn of tire beads, and their underside features a shape that helps to keep them from sliding in or out on the rim wall. That same shallow hook was also a great help when struggling to put on overly tight tubeless tires. Yes, we're well aware that every tubeless tire manufacturer loudly exclaims to not ever use a tire lever during install, but some rim and tire combos are nearly impossibly tight. It's in those times that the Michelin lever, with its shallow hook, can be used to lever the bead over the rim wall without worrying if the end of the hook is going to pierce the wheel's tubeless rim tape - it's short enough that it can't reach, unlike most other levers. Their only letdown is the lack of a proper hook opposite the business end that would allow you to fasten them to a spoke and free up a hand to work with another lever. Despite that omission, the Michelin levers have a permanent place in our bags and in the workshop. - Mike Levy




Stan's rim tape

Stan's yellow rim tape is an adhesive backed rim strip that comes as a roll, allowing you to use as much or as little as needed, and is applied to the rim well for air tight tubeless conversions. The tape is nearly stretch and tear proof, helping to keep it from sagging into the rim's eyelet holes and puncturing. It can be used in conjunction with Stan's rubber tubeless rim strips that have an air valve molded in place, or with one of Stan's standalone valves for a lighter weight setup. Gram counters should also take note that the yellow tape can also act as an extremely lightweight standard rim strip if you want to continue running tubes. Stan's rim tape is available in two different widths depending on the rims that you'll be taping, a 21mm version that is best for skinnier cross-country rims, and a wider, 25mm width that can be used with larger rims that are common on all-mountain, freeride and downhill bikes. A 10yd roll of 21mm tape retails for $11.25 USD, while the 25mm version goes for $13.50 USD. www.notubes.com


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Stan's rim tape is a must for proper tubeless conversions.


Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesWe've had great luck when using Stan's rim tape for both tubeless conversions and use as a standard rim strip. The adhesive backed tape is immune to shifting in the rim well and exposing a hole, something that will quickly cause a puncture. The yellow tape is also incredibly light, with our scale saying that a single rim's worth weighs just 7 grams (standard rim strips can weigh as much as 50 grams). While many readers won't care about the grams saved, you can think of the subtracted rotating weight as an added bonus to the other benefits. There is no arguing that it does take more effort to install than either a standard rim strip or Stan's rubber tubeless strips, requiring that you give the rim well a good cleaning prior to taping for best results. It also needs to be pulled quite snug while taping, helping to limit any air bubbles that may get trapped underneath. Many riders and mechanics get the best results from installing a tube over top of the freshly installed tape, helping to force it down and adhere better to the rim, before going completely tubeless. Yes, Stan's rim tape is more finicky to install, but the result is a lighter and more reliable system that we've taken to using on all of our personal bikes. - Mike Levy






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105 Comments
  • 89 11
 Not the best selection of products Frown
  • 19 2
 i think its just fine for a change
  • 12 8
 i think they're trying to pick affordable products..
  • 52 1
 $160 bars...
  • 12 5
 light bars and tubeless stuff are both high up on my list. great selection of products.
  • 12 0
 I like those. Nobody is very excited at buying tire levers and even less to put time into researching which ones are good enough. Next time your levers break and you're unsure which ones you should pick when you're at the LBS, you know someone who's probably seen a whole slew of levers gave those their seal of approval. P.S. nice brake levers Tyler.
  • 23 1
 Have to mix it up! Maybe we'll do a Product Picks article where every product is under $15?
  • 2 3
 now what could possibly make you think those are Tylers lever? (sarcasm)
  • 4 1
 Please don't do that Mike. Let's hear honest opinions on product that is higher in price than that. One may be more likely to spend $10 to try a product and if it doesn't satisfy, they are not losing much. Would make more sense to have product tests in which the consumer is making a bigger investment and taking a bigger risk with their purchase. Thanks for your honest, well thought out opinions.
  • 3 0
 I'm sure VeeRubber or CST has a 29er tire for $15 you could review and give the anti-29er crowd something fresh to whine about. Maybe those cheaper lock-on grips from MEC that don't say ODI or any other brand name. Some brand/distributor must have a saddle or handlebar or stem for $15 they could send for a test. How about one of the $15 LED headlight offerings?
  • 2 0
 I actually own two of these.
  • 2 0
 Also for those who don't know... stan's yellow tape is basically yellow box strapping tape, used to seal up moving boxes. You can find it at most hardware stores for cheaper and in longer rolls (50 to 100 yards are usually, depending on brand/store, less than $10/roll). Also the best way to cut the valve hole for air sealing into these sorts of tapes is with a hot soldering iron tip (a nail heated up with a butane microtorch will work also) as it basically melts a perfectly round smooth hole thru the tape instead of using an exacto-knife to cut a couple slots in.
  • 2 0
 @dsdave everytime they review a high end product there is someone to whine about how no one has the budget for that stuff and its mostly people with sponsors who get to touch it. I guess they try to cover all grounds.
  • 1 0
 I have the alu Havoc DH bars and they are my favorite so far,i would love to try the Havoc carbon DH barsBig Grin
  • 2 0
 I LOVE my havoc carbons.
  • 1 0
 Why not Easton haven bars?
  • 2 0
 Havens are more narrow. Havocs are 750mm wide, havens are 711mm.
  • 2 0
 Have to say, Havens are excellent. Stiff and light but "trail" gauge.
  • 5 0
 Those tire levers are one of the best accessories for a wheel set , I know it might seem hard to get excited about levers but they really are the best out there by a long shot , thin enough so they don't take up to much of the slack in the tire beads but still super strong , a must if you have tires that are a bitch to get on these make it easy! Well worth buying and one my top mtb products of all time , just shame they are such a bitch to get hold of...
  • 2 0
 On that note does anyone know of these levers for sale in the UK? never seem to find them
  • 1 0
 I know i got them here is australia a few months ago. look on CRC and stuff like that
  • 2 0
 Michelin levers work so well, but they can be hard to find. My advice: if you find some, but them.. even if you don't need new tire levers.
  • 6 0
 Negative props me all you want, but I actually really dislike these tire levers. The fact that they will never break is great, but this is caused by them being too flexible. After a while, they just turn into a wet noodle. And what's the deal with not having a spoke hook? Poor design is what I think.
  • 2 0
 maxxis tire levers ? best ive used so far
  • 1 0
 Yes the leavers go soft after a few year but they are still usable that at least makes them predictable , time to buy some new ones . This is far better than having leaver just snap that has had very little use . Who need spoke hooks ? No negative too you , its just the way i see it .
  • 1 0
 fist time i used them i was afraid they would snap, but they just kept going.
  • 2 1
 @bigburd
You put tires on with leavers? Don't you pinch the tire doing that?
  • 1 0
 Are you f*cking serious? Eek Facepalm
  • 1 0
 Never pinched a tube using levers so far , you just gotta think about what you are doing and not attack like some rabid gorilla Razz
  • 1 0
 Thats pretty much it. just make sure you keep the leaver as close to them rim wall as possible. that way there is next to no chance of it pinching...
  • 9 2
 Good to see a "none of the above" option.
Nice one PB Smile

Went for the bars though
  • 2 16
flag timbud (Dec 30, 2011 at 3:14) (Below Threshold)
 ooo, -ve props without the balls to say why... classy.
  • 11 0
 I upvoted your first comment as it was good to mention the "none of the above" option.
I downvoted your sub comment because you sound like a knob / idiot / sissy little girl.
  • 2 5
 ha... none of that offends me.
nice oneSmile
  • 3 0
 The bars are great. Best I've run. Feel natural right away. They give you all the connection to the trail you want and none of the high frequency buzz/chatter you don't. Much less upper body fatigue than the AL Answer Protaper 780mm -- which is (imo) the best AL bar.
  • 2 0
 Was using chromag fubars for a long time. Move to the Easton carbon. Love the bar. Super stiff and light. Agree that the levers rotate more in a crash but I see that as a good thing. The bar is definitely worth the money. Now just need to get the wheels to match
  • 2 0
 One thing I always liked about Carbon bars was their ability to help dampen vibration / small bumps. Did you guys find that this bar does that still? I am thinking this could be a whistler all day bar if it helps to save your hands.
  • 1 0
 All carbon bars experience that... its an inherent property of the material to dampen vibrations. Its got nothing to do with how stiff or flexible the structure made from CF is, it just always dampens vibrations. Same as steel does. Al is technically the least stiff material commonly used in bicycling but it also has the worst properties for dealing with vibrations. People shouldn't confuse a materials stiffness (or lack of) with its other properties.
  • 1 0
 Yup, wasn't confusing stiffness with other properties. I was just assuming the carbon was layered thicker for a DH product which may or may not (which is why I was asking) effect it's ability to help with the vibes. Not being negative or anything, just asking questions!
  • 1 0
 Well layering on more CF adds more material to dampen vibration. But there's not a super amount of CF in a havoc bar... its lighter than anyone else's 750mm wide CF bars and lighter than many lesser brand narrower bars.
  • 1 0
 Seems like a no brainer. Gonna have to check em out when I get some spare moolah
  • 1 0
 It's actually nice to see a selection of products that Mike thinks work well. So often it's difficult to get good info on tire levers or rim tape. Having the review out there, then opening it up to feedback is really enlightening.
  • 3 0
 It's like 10 years since I've started using one, and only one, set of those yellow Michelins. One is lost, so now I have two of them. Veeeery durable...
  • 1 0
 Hehe Smile Me to. I own mine for about 6-7 years. One is missing too but two are enough Wink
  • 3 2
 dear pink bike,

please fit and unfit few dual ply tires with those yellow leavers then repost the review.

since any tire leaver is capable of fitting normal single ply tires even the cheapest poundland ones which im much more happy to use. What i want to know is will these be good for dual ply tires?
  • 3 0
 I'm using them for 2plys without any problems.
  • 3 0
 Trust me those levers are THE best around by a long shot , just cos they are thin do not diss miss them , if you are snapping regular levers then get these you will not be disappointed , there is not a tire out there you can not mount with these levers
  • 3 0
 They are night and day the best tyre levers I have used. Any time I see them in a shop I'll buy a few packets as they're not necessarily the easiest to come by, in the UK at least where it seems to be an ad hoc product that a shop will occasionally get in. But they're worth it - I've used them for nearly fifteen years and it takes a lot before they break. In fact, if you actually use a proper technique rather than the strategically-shaved-gorilla-in-human-clothes-method, they're virtually indestructable. Most of mine that have broken have been at the hands of other people. If you're good then you should only need tyre levers in occasional circumstances but some rim/tyre combo's demand them. My trail pack has them too for when it's so cold the last thing you want to do is take your gloves off and kill your hands. Definitely recommended and it's about time they got some airtime over the metal options that just use brute force and ignorance to do the job...
  • 3 1
 @georgy291 - They are up to snuff for dula ply DH tires. I'm sure you COULD bend/snap them if you were being a goober about it, but I'd much rather use these than a metal lever. The tubeless tires that I refer to in the review are actually tighter than pretty much any dual ply DH tire that I've ever used.
  • 1 1
 Up to snuff? from my understanding snuff is a genre of films which should not exist and a preparation of tobacco. what does that mean in this context?
  • 2 0
 Technically they're not another tire lever. The michelin levers have been around at least ten years now... nobody told Mike though... or most of pinkbike's membership. What's old is new again. Wink
  • 1 0
 I have the Havoc bars on my DH and AM bikes and the Havens on my XC bike. The bars feel great, increase steering response becuase of the increased stiffness and most importantly, greatly reduce the fatigue causing buzz that you get with aluminum bars.
  • 1 0
 Really satisfied with the stiffness, light and definitely the look of the Havoc Carbon.....lucky me it s only cost IDR 1 mio or equivalent USD 110 in here (A lot of year end discount).....see my profile to see the bar at my Transition Bank
  • 1 0
 Yo, Michelin tire levers are very efficient and resistant in intensive use, but Pedros have the same quality and lifetime warranty, you broke it we replace it, they are top notch and as expensive.
  • 1 0
 Having a set of Pedros and having used the Michelins, I have to say that in some cases I'd rather use the Michelins because the short "hook" end is less likely to pinch a tube as you cannot over insert it.
  • 1 0
 I've got the bars and they are amazing on my all-mountain bike, don't know if i'd use them on my dh bike though, as I find them quite flexy when compared to Truvativ Boo-Bars cut to the same (750mm) length.
  • 4 2
 Don't believe Pinkbike on this one, those levers are flexy garbage that snap at the worst time. Get beefier Pedros style levers.
  • 1 0
 I've seen the beefy pedros snap, I guess they're all bound to fail at some point.
  • 3 0
 Wow, you find them flexy? They feel as rigid as they need to be and we've yet to snap one, but good to hear some other feedback! I wonder if it was extremely cold when they failed... that might make them more brittle?
  • 5 0
 Obviously I havn't seen you change a tire. Any tire lever can snap. I've seen plenty of levers snap and most of them because of one reason. People think that since they have a lever they can just grunt the tire off. Not true. You still have to use finesse and proper tire placement on the rim with a lever. Pretend your using your fingers to remove the tire, but use the lever as a slight advantage so you don't hurt your fingers. Thats it, don't turn into the hulk and you shouldn't have a problem.
  • 1 0
 I have found those Pedros levers to be substantially stiffer than that Michelin, however, the Pedros just do not seem to have the life span that the Michelins have. That being said, the Pedros are so much easier to find that they are my go to lever.
  • 1 0
 I love my pedros, they've lasted around 3 years or so by now and are still going strong. Really recommend them.
  • 2 0
 How come I haven't seen metal tire levers in a while?
  • 1 0
 Pedros easily make the best plastic tire levers on the market very hard to snap compared to Park, Bontrager and even the Mavic featured in this test
  • 2 0
 Because metal levers can potentially damage your rim
  • 2 0
 Yeah I'm taking the Easton Havoc bars alright, but I'm taking the alu bars.
  • 2 0
 Yeah, I don't know if my knowledge of carbon is outdated but with the crash hazards that comes with MTB I'd feel safer with alu bars. Being a featherweight, I've never really noticed my bars flexing to a point where it annoyed me anyway. Lighter, strong components are always nice but I'm not much of a weight weenie, I stop where the cost/improvement ratio isn't there anymore (in my eyes). I have a hard time justifying going 160$ out of my way for to shave 70g off.
  • 2 0
 I have the Race Face sixc carbons on my DH bike, and they have lasted 2 seasons. They are not even a true DH bar. I haven't had a bar last a full season prior to them. $160.00 for the carbons, or 2-3 sets of aluminum at $80-120 each. To each their own. I have Carbon bars on all my family bikes now except the BMX bikes, and I haven't replaced a bar yet. I got a nick in one of tha bars 2 years ago, filled the nick with 2 part epoxy and have watched it closely since. No problems whatsoever. The whole "carbon will snap" wivestale needs to die.
  • 1 0
 My mate snapped two sets of the carbon ones , but to be fair they were both ' bike cart wheeling down the hill ' type crashes
  • 5 0
 Yeah, the whole carbon vs aluminum thing can go on forever. I've seen loads of aluminum bars and frames break in my time, as well as some carbon bits. Everything can break!
  • 2 0
 I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that the crash hard enough that would break or snap carbon bits, is enough to destroy aluminum too. While carbon just straight up looks busted, aluminum will still look fine despite the fact that it is greatly fatigued and unsafe to ride. So sure, carbon snaps, but aluminum will make you think it is fine until the worst possible moment.
  • 1 0
 @bplatte, i agree with you on that one. another thing why people hate carbon components is because if they break, it looks ugly as hell giving the impression that carbon is weak.

i've had 2 or 3 friends who bent aluminum bars vs this 1 guy who broke 1 carbon handle bar and guess what? they all went for aluminum even though it gets consistently bent but don't break.
  • 1 0
 it's just human nature. if we see a ceramic plate and an iron rod we'll propably think the rod is stronger because iron fails slowly and ceramic shatters. what we should be thinking of is load applied and number of repetitions. fact is, pound for pound, carbon takes greater load and doesn't fail due to fatigue
  • 1 0
 My point was that I wouldn't rush to the store to ditch perfectly good alu bars for a carbon one but seeing that the premium is only like 30-40$ i wouldn't mind giving them a go.

Good point, I guess if you snapped carbon, alu would have snapped too. With lightly bent alu bars you can still finish your day compared to a snapped carbon bar but then again maybe carbon wouldn't have snapped at all when alu bent. It's just that my bars seem to soak most of the damage when I crash so I'm kind of reluctant a little to spend more than necessary on bars. I guess it can make the difference if it's a good product.
  • 1 0
 Reason I'm taking the alu bars is because I can't afford them carbon bars! I was able to try a bike with carbon bars (FSA) and for me it didn't actually feel different. It still gave me control, I was able to take turns the same way so carbon or alu bars, I guess it will come down to if you can afford it.

I'm using Funn Full On 750mm versions BTW.
  • 1 0
 The standards bars are tested to now, especially to pass the CEN standards in europe to be sold as mountain bike components/frames (the 2011 Salsa Mukluk frames for example did NOT pass the mountain bike standards in the testing... the 2012 frames had to be reinforced to meet them) are so high that its no longer a case of which material is strong enough and which isn't. Its a case of they're all strong enough, but some materials are stronger still, and in very few cases, the carbon bars are the ones that are the strongest. For easton at least, and they're the #1 brand for durable carbon products, their CF bars test out better than their Al bars.

Any impact that'd break a Havoc bar, would decimate an Al bar as well. And while cheap thick wall Al bars do tend to bend in failure under impact loads, thinner tubewall ones, as you typically see at the higher price points (because they're using stronger alloys) typically go straight to the crack failure. And for the whole "well you can keep riding a bent bar", you're insane if you actually do that. If you've bent or cracked a bar, or even crashed it hard enough that it should have bent... you should stop using it immediately and replace it. Because the next time you land an impact with it, you might not get lucky and survive the crash that follows.
  • 1 0
 Thank you, that's probably one of the most instructive post I've read here. How do you know the Easton carbon bars are better than their alus, did they release the test results or there is a place you can actually view the results of all those stress tests? Does north america have their own CEN standards or it's less regulated?

Oh and I replace my components when I find out their damaged, but it's always fun to finish the run if it's not too bad. Having had a stem unpredictably snap when landing a gap teaches you to not f*ck around with that stuff, especially if it's steering related.
  • 1 0
 Easton has always built their CF bars to be stronger than their equivalent model Al bars. Otherwise they'd never be able to justify the price increase to the customer, or for that matter, the loss of reputation if they failed more often in usage. Easton themselves point out in their advertising that the Havoc Carbon is the strongest bar they've ever made. The european CEN testing results are probably available SOMEPLACE. North America has no such equivalent regulation in either Canada or the USA, and neither does most of the rest of the world. Only in countries that are part of the euro economic zone does the regulation exist and apply.

As of 2008, every bike or bike component sold in Europe has had to be tested and pass rigorous standards to not only be sold, but also to avoid penalties for non-compliance in some countries.

www.cen.eu/cen/News/Spotlight%20on%20standards/Archive/Pages/Bicycle.aspx

Unfortunetly as its a government regulating body, they don't actually make it easy to find the standards they test for online, and the services which do the testing charge money to do so, so they also don't make it simple to find out what criteria you have to pass publically. But meeting the standards benefit every company that wishes to do business in europe as the euro-market zone accounts for 70% of worldwide bicycle industry sales.
  • 1 0
 Interesting, thank you.
  • 3 1
 Carbon Handlebars? Friction paste? - Ah C'm on - buy real estate with no money down -everyones doin it !
  • 2 0
 Been running Havoc Carbon DH bars for 9 or 10 months now, cant fault them, love them in fact, suit me perfectly!
  • 2 0
 I have that bar too,this is very nice and light,about snaping i'm not worry Smile
  • 1 0
 I would rather readjust the brake lever than having to replace the whole broken lever body. This is why I keep my lever a little loose so that it moves after a crash.
  • 1 0
 Really pinkbike users? There's more of you that will potentially try a $160 carbon handlebar than are likely to try a $5 tyre lever? right...
  • 2 0
 Do we really need another tyre lever ?
  • 3 0
 The Michelin levers are not really "another" tire lever, they have been around for a very long time. Also, they are different enough from the norm to be worth taking a look at =)
  • 1 0
 Nice review! Mike would the bars work for a guy of my size - 210 lbs? I ride aggressive trails but do not take any big drops! Cheers
  • 2 0
 @ Climberclimb, you'd be fine. PB forgot to mention the best thing about Easton carbon bars, lifetime warranty and no weight limits.
Tested that warranty out ealier this year when my very old, very beat up CNT DH's snapped in a crash. Easton sent me a pair of these, no questions asked beside showing the proof of purchase for the old ones, well pleased so I was! Bet no other company would replace a seven year old set of bars for free.
  • 1 0
 That's good to know Fix-the-Spade! Cheers
  • 1 0
 @ Climberclimb = I weigh 220 and those bars are on my bike, been there since May/June. You should be more than fine.
  • 2 0
 Picked up a pair of these Havoc bars for xmas....SO STOKED!
  • 1 0
 Its nice to see some products that your general mtb'er would use and could afford.
  • 1 0
 Did you guys use the carbon paste when installing your bars? What are the problems that can be caused if you don't?
  • 1 3
 With all the products out there at the moment they come up with this shit!. Tyre levers - if you can't do it with your thumb then get a road bike you tart! A roll of tape - feck off. The bars - fair enough but I snapped the last carbon bars I had so wont trust carbon on my bike.
  • 3 0
 Mr. Positive today eh? There will be roughly 52 different Product Pick articles throughout a year's time, meaning that at minimum there will be 156 different products tested (likely more because some PP's cover four products). Sometimes you'll find something that interests you, and sometimes you won't.

And regarding the tire levers, I am 100% positive that there are many tires, both xc and dh, that would require YOU to use tire levers. And here's the thing, even if you can do it without, many others can't. Nearly every single post you make seems to be overwhelmingly negative. I sincerely hope that you are only this gloomy when behind a computer, otherwise life must be very weary for you.
  • 2 0
 Never mind, I'll be negative prop'd to insignificance. But at least I spoke my mind. Ah well, you'd think I've got enough shit to be going on with without bitching about stuff on the internet but it passes the time. Don't you worry though, life is what you make of it and I try to make it good but some days it gets to me.
  • 1 0
 Maybe it's just your articles I'm negative towards, maybe not, either way don't take it personally. I enjoyed your review of the trek wonder bike (session 9.9) and have respect for you and what you do. Peace bro tup
  • 1 0
 Oh and it's good to see you took my advice on the tech tuesday and put up a reverb bleed artice Smile
  • 1 0
 Havoc bars on my AM bike have been excellent.
  • 2 0
 For those who don't know... stan's yellow tape is basically yellow box strapping tape, used to seal up moving boxes. You can find it at most hardware stores for cheaper and in longer rolls (50 to 100 yards are usually, depending on brand/store, less than $10/roll).
  • 2 0
 never found the Stans tape to be anything special??

I used to work for the original Stan's UK importer, and we actually stopped bringing in the Stan's yellow tape and switched to using "Roval" tubeless tape (Specialized) which was 5x cheaper and much stickier, making installation easier

I don't bother with any tubeless tape for my tubeless conversions any more...wrap quality electrician's tape 2-3 times around the spoke bed before mounting the valve unit

never had any issues with installation, or long term sealing, using common electrical tape Wink
  • 1 0
 um... how do i get custom X0 brakes?
  • 1 0
 ok mike, point taken, I'm just not easily impressed thats all :o)
  • 1 0
 does rolling ur tire off the rim wreck the tire?
  • 1 0
 Sticky tape rim strips are all well and good until you break a spoke







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