Pinkbike Product Picks

Jun 28, 2013
by Mike Kazimer  
Fox Demo Freeride short

Fox's Demo Freeride short has the relaxed fit preferred by downhill riders, but is constructed of a lighter, two-way stretch fabric to make it better suited for pedaling. An elasticized belt runs along the inside back half of the waist band, and the fit can be adjusted with the hook and loop closures attached to each side of this belt. There are two zippered side pockets, as well as one on the middle of the short's left leg. Airflow is enhanced with the use of two crotch vents and two additional vents on the back of the thigh. Available in even sizes from 30-38, the Demo Freeride short retails for $129.95 USD. www.foxhead.com

Fox Demo Freeride shorts
The Demo Freeride shorts fit well, but weren't as durable as we would have liked.

Pinkbike's take:
bigquotesComfort is key when it comes to bike shorts - no matter how flashy and stylish a short looks, if it chafes or rubs the wrong way it can put a damper on an otherwise great ride. Luckily, Fox's Demo Freeride short ranks highly when it comes to both comfort and fit. The 25" outseam put the bottom of the shorts just below our knee, exactly where we wanted it. There was plenty of room for knee pads, and the stretch fabric made sure the pads and shorts played well together. Although it's billed as a "freeride" short, this short is light enough to work well on long cross-country rides, with enough ventilation to keep things cool when the temperatures rise. Unfortunately, we did run into some issues in the durability department. After a few weeks of using the shorts we noticed that the left pocket's seam was coming undone. The flat seam is glued on instead of being sewn, but the glue seemed to have lost its grip at the bottom part of the pocket. Admittedly, laundry isn't our strong suit, and the shorts did make their way into the drier a time or two despite the short's 'line dry' instructions, so it is possible that this led the seam to an untimely death. We also ended up with a small hole in the right rear of the shorts - in order to retain its light weight the fabric does give up a bit of puncture resistance. The overall fit and feel of these shorts is excellent, but they are hindered slightly by these durability issues. Still, they're comfortable enough that we would still recommend them, with that caveat that they aren't quite as robust as other offerings out there, and that riders should take care when laundering them. - Mike Kazimer




T.H.E. Industries Maxi knee guards

The Maxi knee guards use a viscoelastic foam insert made by SAS-TEC, a German company who specializes in engineering protective foam for body armor usage. The viscoelastic material absorbs impact progressively – the greater the impact speed or force, the more resistant the material becomes, allowing the foam to be extremely flexible while still offering enough protection from hard impacts. A Kevlar fabric covers the outside of the SAS-TEC pad to provide extra abrasion resistance. Two ovals of the more common EVA foam are located on both sides of the guards to protect against any side impacts. The knee guards slide on, with a ventilated neoperene sleeve and two elasticized hook and loop straps to secure them into place. Available in sizes S, M, L, XL. MSRP: $84.99 USD. www.the-industries.com/

THE Maxi knee guards
Simple in design, the Maxi knee guard proved to be effective and comfortable enough for rides with extended pedaling sections.

Pinkbike's take:
bigquotesThe Maxi knee guards are about as simple as it gets, following the slide on, two strap layout employed by numerous other companies. What won us over was how well the knee guards stayed in place, even on long pedally sections of trail. Even without any type of internal kneecap cutout, the foam is able to conform well, curving just above the kneecap to prevent the pads from slipping. The low profile design didn't interfere with any of the shorts we wore these with - even skinny jeans wearers could probably fit them on under their pants. Luckily, we didn't have off the bike crashes with these pads, but they did a stellar job of protecting our knees on a number of sloppy rides where there were plenty of impacts against the bike's stem and top tube. Given the price of these Maxi knee guard, it would be nice to see a non-slide on system, one where it wasn't necessary to remove our shoes to put them on. That small quibble aside (well, besides the fact there must be a better name for knee pads then Maxi), these guards are simple, comfortable and effective. For riders that often find themselves doing a fair amount of pedaling with knee guards on these are worth considering. - Mike Kazimer



Fly Racing Default Helmet

Fly Racing is known more in the motorcycle world, but they are making a push to gain recognition on the mountain bike side of things as well. The Default helmet is their CPSC certified full-face offering, constructed using a polycarbonate shell covering an EPS liner. 21 vents are designed to provide enough airflow for steamy summer days, and a D-ring closure keeps the helmet secure. The visor is affixed with aluminum hardware, and can be adjusted by hand by loosening the bolt in the center. Both the liner and the cheek pads can be removed for washing. Colors: black/white, red/white, black/lime/purple, blue/black/red. Weight: 1133 grams (size medium). MSRP: $109.95 USD. www.flyracing.com

Fly Racing Default Helmet
The Default fit well, but was lacking some of the attention to detail found on higher end helmets.

Pinkbike's take:
bigquotesThe Default's fit was excellent right out of the box, snug where it needed to be without any pressure points or discomfort, and with enough padding around the cheek area to keep the helmet from shifting from side to side. The polycarbonate shell's numerous large vents had us predicting there would be greater than average ventilation, but the vents underneath the shell, where airflow would actually reach a rider's head are much smaller in diameter, likely necessary to maintain the EPS liner's protective characteristics. That being said, the Default had good ventilation on warm spring rides, keeping us as cool as could be expected from a full face helmet. The chin pads and inner liner were easily removable, making it easy to keep the helmet from developing any unwanted odors. The helmet did have a few small things that could use a bit of refinement. The first is the chin strap - the strap itself seems excessively long - we're not sure if anyone has a big enough head that they would need this much adjustment, and fastening the strap was a little trickier than what we're used to as well. Also, with gloved hands, the snap could be hard to hard to locate. The only other thing, and it's a minor detail, was that the chin piece was just barely visible in the lower part of our peripheral vision - a lower profile design would make it so it wasn't noticeable at all. Despite these issues, considering its comfortable fit and light weight, and especially its price, the Default is a good value. - Mike Kazimer






85 Comments

  • + 140
 Something is wrong when a pair of shorts costs more than a helmet
  • + 57
 If you pay retail for anything, you are a twat.
  • + 38
 Yes what has marketing come to these days. Those shorts probably cost $10 to make. If the fox logo wasn't on them they wouldn't cost anywhere near that much
  • + 29
 The point is not if you pay retail for something or not. The point is that pair of shorts costs more than a helmet and basically it costs the price of a good jacket. And it's not just these, but most of MTB shorts are way too expensive. Also I don't get how a good helmet from moto company can cost $110 and a skateboard looking knee pads are $85 at the same time!
  • + 19
 This is why I love pink bike on other forums I say things like this and get attacked by snobs who think you can only ride if your a minted
  • - 36
flag d-rek (Jun 28, 2013 at 1:41) (Below Threshold)
 Thats because that fly helmet is made cheap. I wouldnt trust my head in that thing. I tried on one of their helmets from last year and you definitely get what you pay for. Those fox shorts look super nice.
  • + 6
 i bought some shorts off ebay 15 quid and they are mega and still going strong brilliant build qaulity and comfortable! never go branded when the same stuff without a logo is there!!
  • + 17
 I got some 'legit' TLD moto shorts off ebay from Hong Kong that must have fallen off the back of a van or something for the price of £28 plus postage from an rrp of £85. Am I at all guilty that none of the money is going to a big money pinching company and going to a dodgy crook half way round the world? I would say, not one bit.
  • + 2
 Yeah, that's true. Both, shorts and helmet are great, but with this prices i woluld choose helmet becaust it cheaper and i think, its not a normal situation...
  • + 14
 my riding short are cut-off old trousers and jeans ... specially jeans they dont tear easily on nasty crash.. ive got to admit im a lowbudget rider id rather spend my bucks investing on my ride than my looks... people say if you cant ride like a pro at least suit-up like a pro... bullcrap!!!!..... all you have to do to look like a pro is grow your beard like steve smith
  • + 2
 You mean like Steve peat ? Wink
  • + 2
 I have the Fly Racing Dash Helmet, and it definately isn't the best helmet out there, but for the price it is worth it!
  • + 0
 Bought some fox pads, shorts, jersey when I started riding seriously and never will again. A poor quality crap product. I use Royal, Race Face, and actually Louis Garneau now and couldn't be happier. 661 always treated me right as well.
  • + 2
 I haven't had the best luck with Fox stuff either. I have a few jerseys and they are fine. They are what they are but I found the Demo DH shorts to not be very durable in terms of holding up to abuse. Mine had about 5 tears in them after the first (not even that bad) crash. My TLDs and Nema's hold up much better. I also had a pair of (quite expensive) Fox gloves rip at the seem after one day of riding. I was able to return those though.
  • + 3
 I'm really disappointed with bike kit these days, hard to find something that isn't overpriced, they are over engineered with about 20 pieces of material and logos all over them, I just want something simple that lasts longer. csermonet are you really American, because I didn't think you guys said 'twat'?
  • + 1
 Good luck if you buy a price leader helmet
  • + 1
 It maybe cheaper but still is cpsc certified. I agree u get what u pay for though.
  • + 1
 That is the first helmet I've liked and wouldn't mind buying since I got my D3, although I'd most likely buy another D3 if needed! But hey that helmet looks the nads!!
  • + 1
 They wouldn't be allowed to sell it if it wasn't safe! Industry standards.
  • + 1
 Yeah, I don't trust fox because my reflex gel gloves have fallen apart after 3 months' use with occasional washing and no crashes.
  • + 1
 Saw some on amazon but all the reviews say the stitching comes out after a few days
  • + 17
 Knee pads named after a woman's sanitary product? Seriously?
  • + 5
 Did you realize you're on a website named PINKbike?
  • + 8
 Pink is a colour. Don't let your disgusting mind distort that.
  • + 5
 Haha ya I was gonna say that I'll leave the maxi pads to my sisters to use Wink
  • + 1
 bought the knee pads at sea otter, and the quality is kinds weak. the seam holding the side padding split inside the pad and needed to be sewn back within 2 months of owning them. otherwise they fit well, are low profile, and are my choice for trail rides.
  • + 2
 The maxi pads look like they would be gentle on your skin.
  • + 0
 Yes jaycubzz, being a largely feminine color is actually what I was referring to. So I guess we know where your mind already was eh? Obviously you missed my point of not taking names of things/products in this industry too seriously, I mean there are bikes with names like G-Spot.
  • + 2
 Coves whole line up has awesome names like that. G-spot, hooker, hummer, hand job, shocker (and I'm sure there's more)
  • + 6
 Yeah, it looks completely the same! It comes $40 cheaper for being 33 grams heavier. Hm, I can go for that Big Grin
Plus the Fly helmet have a lot better graphics!
  • + 3
 reminds me of a D3 as well
  • + 6
 And looks close to a Spec Dissident too! At least it doesnt look like a Session though!
  • + 4
 if you go to interbike you will realise that a lot of products are the same with different company logos on them
  • + 2
 I said the same thing last week about a Joyride seat being the same as a chromag trail master and azonic, but my comment got deleted. Interesting.
  • + 1
 it's also the same as the Oneill Airtech helmet. cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2011/02/21/1299770344186-3kwkt34oayw3-670-75.jpg

good helmet, light, vented, and fair price.
  • + 5
 During riding season (year round in socal) we all have "That time of the month" on a ride when nature reminds whose boss, and
These maxi pads prevent/limit the extent of the bloody situation!

I ♡ my maxi pads!
  • + 6
 What a coincidence I ordered a fly default a week ago
  • + 1
 I've got the Fly helmet. Was brilliant for the price, but I only do the odd DH riding. And it was £5 cheaper than my Fox Flux trail helmet.
Unfortunately as MTB has taken off big time prices have reflected on its popularity. It's all bout marketing. If Fox was cheap, people would associate it with chavs.
  • + 1
 I ordered a fly default helmet when my f2 got damaged. When it arrived the pads felt itchy and cheap. This was enough to put me off but if its your first full face you'd probs love it. Defo wouldnt recommend it if you need to shave more often than you do. Theres very little in the way of decent comfy well designed budget helmets out there atm and i'd say this was one of the best if you dont mind the slidey feeling padding.
  • + 1
 My Fly Racing helmet has kept me safe for almost 3 years and has proven durability. It's saved my brain from trees and diggers several times. That said, it get's very hot even though it has 20 vents! The problem is that those vents are not routed to the wearer's head. Heat could be sucked out by passing air (maybe), but there is no cool airflow into the helmet.
To remedy the heat problem, I used a razor to cut holes in the liner where the foam was open to a vent. There is another screen liner at the shell that keeps most debris out of my hair, but it did help heat and sweat dissipate more easily. I'm in the market for a more comfortable and lighter carbon helmet now that I've proved myself to myself on the trails and slopes, but I think these Fly Racing helmets are an excellent investment for younger or new riders getting into downhill riding.
  • + 1
 In my experience, for price and quality the best I've tried are Royal shorts. They're durable, lightweight and got 2 zipped pockets. Close second are TLD's, but they lack the pockets and ratchet belt on some models and cost too much. Fox on the other hand suck when it comes to shorts, overpriced piece of crap, though they do make some great affordable helmets and gloves! Next up, I'll be trying some dakine's if I can find a pair on sale.
  • + 1
 I love my Fly Racing Helmet. I got it from CRC around December to replace my damaged 661 comp lid and is just awesome. Love the weight and the overall design of the helmet, it's very motocross like. m.pinkbike.com/photo/9399194
  • + 2
 Same same. Quality lid at a quality price. Crc had a special and i got mine for £65. Winner winner chicken dinner
  • + 2
 Mine was £53 - my first full face and I love it! It's surprisingly light as well, compared to others I've tried
  • + 2
 was my first too, super cheap and looks great. saved my head a couple times already. Next step d3!
  • + 2
 yeah man i got one too, super nice and way comfortable. everybody loves it because it looks so FLY!
  • + 5
 the maxi pad... Serious oversight by the marketing department there
  • + 2
 Or was that exactly what they were going for... your right its weird.
  • + 2
 Hmmm fishy, sounds like a panty liner to me
  • + 1
 I have the previous model of the demo shorts, they have proven to be very reliable, the new ones look to be in a different material, i dont have a single tear or rip in these ones and i've taken a couple falls since getting them last year, always sad when a newer product is worse then the previous.
  • + 4
 sexy ass helmet, for once everything tested could match if worn together.
  • + 1
 My fly helmet came today, I really like the look of it but when it's on my head its just looks really chunky and big it's not really for me, I think I will spend a bit more money and buy a remedy or a wired
  • + 0
 Wearing local rags or no brand at all. Scarecrow look. 20 year old football tee and 20 year old long white and yellow race-bike leather gloves with kevlar knuckles for that superhero look ;.) Beatenup lowend MX-armor, Rollerbladeelbowpads, $10 shoes, rotten chin-knee protectors. But I replace my fullface after hits and this spring I got a pair of marked down ridingshorts.
Prefer not to spend money at Fox`s. Fox is actually marketing "Jetski" gloves. Dont want to be associated with fairhaired oakley wearing heavyweights with Jetskis on their superpucks.
  • + 1
 wakaba - you and me have to learn that one thing from mr Oscar Wilde: "if you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, or they kill will you"

No matter how true is what you say, no matter how much people should look into what you just read, you are not going anywhere with that attitude.
  • + 0
 My attitude and capabilities got me very very very far. I could lead a blingified life. I dont. I am ragtag. Don`t worry, copy. Hotair corporations, like Fox, and their drone-consumers get my acid treatment. They could excell with amazing products but make just crumy sweatshop stuff.
  • + 1
 Mnah, you couldn't. Personal sets of values are often way more powerful than we realize and influence many micro decisions we make everyday, ultimately making us who we are. Opportunities are only for those ready to take them when they come.

I only meant that sour btchn' just as I do, doesn't give anyone else but us anything. People don't want to hear whining, they want to be cheated. They want to live the dream, everyone has their own interpretation of reality and paints it up with realities of others that seem more attractive than own ones. There is simply no common reality. Nobody wants to paint his with sour visions. People like only the truth suiting their beliefs or agenda, and truth is never like that. And even if someone does want to hear some truth he wants it served nicely and gently, read: on his terms. At least in an entertaining manner. The only accepted truth telling is stand up comedy, and only because the audience lies to themselves that comedian is not talking about them - "he is talking about all those idiots out there"

So it is actualy knowledge and character that took us very far, but not the attitude. If we had better attitude we could have been further. Knowing is a fkng stone... gathering knowledge and understanding is one thing: how to use it is another and smile always helps. I suck at it
  • + 0
 The Fly Racing Default Helmet has been commented everywhere else, but Pinkbike, as a terrible low quality helmet, with reports of the helmet´s chin piece getting broken due to low force impacts..... yet here it is recommended. O_O
  • + 1
 For me it feels strange that most DH helmets aren't certified to ASTM F 1952 dh standard. When you certify helmet only in bicycle standard, the chin bar doesn't have to hold against any type of impact... And also the shell doesn't have to withstand as high impact as DH certified helmet. Personally I wouldn't buy helmet without DH or moto cerfication.
  • + 1
 Well I would actually not consider a moto (DOT) certified helmet for DH, their shells are too rigid for the type of possible hits in biking which can also be a problem, as well as the weight.

www.pinkbike.com/news/DH-Helmets-vs-Motocross-Helmets-Which-Is-Safer.html

I´d rather buy a good reputable helmet.
  • + 1
 I got 3 pairs of demo shorts and they are fantastic. got them on sale at my LBS (different bikes north shore) for far less than $129 too.
  • + 1
 Why would they call a pad Maxi? Im sure someone has already said this by now, "Guard" seems kind of forced like they tried to avoid Maxi pad.
  • + 2
 The Fly default helmet looks like the IXS metis. Anyone else agree?
  • + 1
 Hey Fox, make quality stuff or don't make it at all. Shorts have been crap for a while now.
  • + 2
 No thanks, I'll keep my 20€ short.
  • + 1
 No thanks, my old $15 skinny jeans still works and comfy.
  • + 1
 fox demo dh shorts are the best, i paid 60€ for them in CRC and they are really comfy and durable
  • + 1
 I've had durability issues with the demo DH shorts. They fit well and are comfortable but they did not hold up well. They were basically in tatters after one fall. And it was just more of a slide out on a groomed trail. The perforations in the shorts just seem to invite tips and tears. I've had much better luck with my TLD and Nema DH shorts, both of which have held up very well.
  • + 2
 I wear mine on XC/AM rides year-round and wash after each use. They are still holding up and look brand new.
  • + 2
 Why there is always fox in the "Pinkbike product picks"?
  • + 1
 I think that fly helmet is on sale at around £80 on CRC . maybe a different model but looks the same
  • + 1
 I've got that helmet. It's wicked.
  • + 1
 Haha fox shorts:"durable" I ripped mine in like a week
  • + 1
 Already have The Fly Default Helmet and its brilliant
  • + 1
 I highly recommend the helmet, it's fantastic.
  • - 1
 I bought my Fox Demo shorts direct from Fox for £26 plus p&p of £3!!! Why are they £85 in the shops???
  • + 0
 Is it so difficult to enter the weight of the helmet?
  • + 1
 It says in the article, 1133 grams. Can you read?
  • + 0
 All made in China?
  • - 3
 I need an "all of the above " button
  • - 3
 please make a button: I ilike everything !
or something like that

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