First Look: Polygon Orrin Prototype - Taipei Show

Mar 20, 2013
by Mike Levy  
Polygon Orrin 2014 prototype

Orrin Details

• Intended use: all-mountain/enduro
• Travel: 160mm
• Carbon fiber front and rear triangles
• Designed for 650B wheels
• Internal cable routing
• Post mount rear brake
• ISCG-05 chain guide tabs
• 66° head angle
• 428mm/16.8'' chain stay
• Target weight: 5.3lb/2.4kg
• Availability: TBA
• MSRP: TBA



The February announcement that the Hutchinson United Ride team would be contesting the World Cup circuit aboard Polygon's Collosus downhill bike may have taken a few by surprise, but the Indonesian company is making a hard push into the high-end market with a lineup of smart looking bikes at competitive prices. Further proof comes in the form of two new carbon fiber prototypes that have been designed around 650B wheels: the 160mm travel Orrin shown here, and the lighter weight Karoo that uses a similar layout to offer 140mm of travel. While both are 2014 model year bikes that will have their official launch at this year's Eurobike tradeshow, Polygon was able to show us two frames that had come out of the mold only days earlier.


Polygon Orrin 2014 prototype

FS3 Suspension
Polygon's 200mm travel downhill race bike uses their FS2 suspension design, a two-link, floating shock layout that keeps all of the bike's suspension components as low as possible in the frame. As the name suggests, the Orrin's FS3 design is an evolution of that layout, with two links that control a floating shock and an extremely low center of gravity. Pivot locations have been modified to better suit the 160mm travel bike's intention as a machine that can be pointed both up and down a hill, and the lower link no longer rotates concentrically around the bottom bracket. This latter fact not only helps to shed weight, but also means that Polygon was able to shorten the chain stays far beyond what would have been possible with the older design - they measure in at 428mm. Both the upper and lower links, which are single-piece units rather than being bolted or bonded together, rotate in the same direction to compress the shock.

How hard did Polygon work to shorten the bike's rear end? Check out the detail on the driveside chain stay (shown at right) that allows for it to be tucked up tight while still clearing the bike's chain ring. Polygon had originally planned to use a machined aluminum insert at the chain stay yoke but that would have added weight while also making for a bond between the carbon and aluminum that might cause trouble down the road. Instead, Polygon manufactured the area out of solid carbon fiber that allowed them to shape it how they wanted without having to use aluminum.


Polygon Orrin

Like a lot of bikes coming out these days, the Orrin will feature both a 12 x 142mm rear end and internal cable routing that will make for smooth lines while offering more protection. Removable inserts at the entry and exit points should allow for easy, fuss-free cable installation.


Polygon Karro

The 140mm travel Karro closely resembles its longer travel brother. In fact, it uses the exact same rear triangle. This won't be a warmed over trail bike, though, as ISCG-05 chain guide tabs and a 67 degree head angle are on the bike's fact sheet.


www.polygonbikes.com


142 Comments

  • + 86
 This is a sweet design! Polygon is really stepping up their game
  • + 48
 It seems overly complex. Looks amazing, but I like to stick to Keep It Simple Stupid. Call me old school.
  • + 18
 I think it's stunning. looks like an alien bike. I don't know if it's attractive or not.....yet I can't look away.
  • - 67
flag Edward47 (Mar 20, 2013 at 7:32) (Below Threshold)
 looks like a session
  • + 33
 Finally! A worthy bike to replace my Hyper Zink.
  • - 52
flag IainJohnson (Mar 20, 2013 at 9:14) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a Session.
  • + 11
 How is it overly complex? It has two links, tons of bikes have two links. And the way the tubes are formed and welded Just shows that the people who designed the frame obviously put a ton of thought into it. The final product looks amazing.
  • + 5
 that thing just looks burly and mean. thought it was a DH bike at first. Would look awesome in matte black with R/G/B ano components and wheels.
  • + 0
 tbh, i think the tube shapes have alot more to do with the tyre hitting the seat tube, and imo spesh have a far better bike in the 29ner enduro option
  • + 8
 "imo spesh have a far better bike in the 29ner enduro option" - considering you havent ridden either of them how dafuq could you come to that conclusion?
  • - 6
flag sladevallydh (Mar 20, 2013 at 14:59) (Below Threshold)
 ovo i havent riden them, but based on pink bikes review of spesh's 29r enduro, and them comparing it to the 26" version, which is regarded as one of the best enduro bikes you can get. and im guessing, the weight of the spesh will be lighter cause of the carbon front triangle, the only advantage i see will the ploygon, would be price. im not saying that this is fact, its just my opinion at this point, or my guesses
  • + 13
 alright people, the "looks like a session" joke is dead. move on.
  • - 10
flag DARKSTAR63 (Mar 20, 2013 at 15:53) (Below Threshold)
 But Dan, what are we going to do about all these bikes that look like Sessions. It's becoming an epidemic...
  • - 3
 looks like a session
  • - 5
flag rampchamp99 (Mar 20, 2013 at 17:15) (Below Threshold)
 how in the name of holy f*cking hell does this bike look like a session??????
  • + 2
 I was being sarcastic ... it doesn't... except for being a full suspension mountain bike.
  • - 3
 looks like a bighit
  • + 3
 I hope to god they don't decide to paint that thing.... Beautiful in its natural form!
  • - 1
 This bike is a static nightmare. Cantilever rear dropouts, strange bends around BB. Suspension was supposed to be straight up. Now it does strange arc. Shockmount on lowertube - probably a solid piece of carbon - not good... Headtube - epic fail. Design looks melted.
  • + 0
 Watch this if you want to see it in action....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Yhz8Iav1I
  • + 1
 Like to see the actual bike in action.. ASAP
  • + 0
 Just saw the animation. This is hilarious. As I postet before. All this design nonsense to have the rear end do a an arc? One pivot point is enough, here you have 4? 3 do nothing...WFT? Intense, Turner, Commencal do it right. This Polygon is crap.
  • + 41
 Inspired by "Alien and or Predator"
  • + 3
 Thought the same thing.
  • + 2
 first thought: "looks Alien!"

could be Ripley's bike Smile
  • + 4
 eric, absolutely ... looks like H.R. Giger himself designed that frame.
  • + 3
 definatly predator

Wink
  • + 1
 that's a good name for a bike actually.... Predator
  • + 4
 Predator was a top o line Schwinn bmx back in the day.
  • + 1
 Foes also has/had the Predator hardtail
  • + 0
 given that their name is "Polygon Bikes" they should have a firm grasp on geometry and shapes..... Wink
  • + 30
 is it just me or is this suspension design similar to the Marin's Quad link?
  • - 3
 Only on first look, but I think they can't be compared when it comes to preformance..

And weight Wink
  • + 15
 PFFFFTT NO ! anyone should be able to look at that and see it obviouslly looks like a session... X)
  • + 1
 lol, session. notice the post mount for the rear brake
  • + 14
 Polygon is doing better and better by the minute! Big Grin
Wonder if it would be possible to ride one of these frames with a 26'wheels instead of the 650b ones...
  • - 2
 You would decrease the quality of the ride by a moderate amount, but you could do it if you wanted lesser performance.
  • + 5
 It would be about as detrimental to the ride quality as going from a 2.5 tire to a 2.7. Only a 2.7 tire you MAY actually notice. as tight as that rearend looks like it may be around a decent sized tire, im thinking a 26" combo might be best as well, especially in wet conditions... but im also assuming geo has been designed around the silly big wheels,so might be dragging bb and scraping pedals.
  • + 1
 Well, the difference between 26'and 650b is pretty small, so i was thinking it wouldn't be such a problem to try it here. Most other manufacturers have started making their frames compatable with both standarts. Smile
  • + 3
 The kids are at it again.
  • + 11
 looks like it will be very easy to clean!
  • + 3
 Pretty neat, but carbon frames are a little silly since rotational weight is far more important. Carbon wheels are more functional, but of course myself and all the other cavemen are still suspicious of this "new" technology. After all, it always costs two arms, a leg, and a marriage.
  • + 2
 I only liked this for the marrage part to be honest haha
  • + 0
 Fool
  • + 7
 Polygon...building polygons...out of polygonal carbon...polygonally.
  • + 12
 Question is, do they support polygamy?
  • + 1
 Yo dawg, I heard u like polygons.
  • + 1
 Sweet looking design! Might offer really interesting curve for the shock. The finishing (or lack of it) makes it look a bit "alien" like someone already posted, or just a bit crappy. Can't wait to see it as a complete in paint!
  • + 1
 proto slope bike for sam and yannick?
  • + 1
 I thought so. who's else?
  • + 1
 Big news indeed. Will wait to try (and then see if it's love or hate.. )
No doubt it will be affordable when everyone else jack up the carbon frame price close to three grands..
  • + 4
 Nice Polygon u make indonesian people pride.
  • + 1
 I love how glossy that frame looks. I wish more manufacturers would use a super glossy finish instead of that matte look on their carbon. Gives it a look at me bitch instead of the usual stealth look.
  • + 1
 Make everything stealthy, its more high speed low drag
  • + 2
 i wouldnt be surprised if wings shot out and it took off. sweet looking frame
  • + 3
 looks like the rear triangle will hit inner of your knees while travel
  • + 2
 Complicated design, looks like ALIEN >Big Grin Rawrrrr!!!!
Can wait to see it ride by Hutchinson Team and Polygon Factory Team
  • + 2
 lets see a video of that suspension
  • + 1
 Can't wait to see the entire bike. If I could afford one it would definitely be on my to buy list!
  • + 1
 I think 650b wheel are going to dominate the All Mountain/Enduro for some market in the near future
  • + 1
 what!! Another one? Nice.... Great work for Polygon. Certainly on my must have list
  • + 2
 I think previous model (2013 collosus TRX/DHX) much better...
  • + 1
 yes I agree with you, more simple and affordable
  • + 1
 dont care n never care what peoples said....its still rocks to me, one of indonesia's proudness today...
  • + 1
 Actually looks like Marin imo. That seat stay is going to destroy the inside of knees. I don't like it.
  • + 1
 How will the non symmetrical rear triangle work for rigidity? More flexxy when you turn one way than the other?
  • + 1
 Carbon, when constructed right, is massively stiffer than any aluminum frame, and given that there are quite a few aluminum frames that have asymetrical rear triangles with little to no issue, it only makes sense that this will be of no concern
  • + 1
 Interesting, it seems to have multiple shock mounting holes. I wonder if that's for testing or for production?
  • + 1
 that's just on the bar they have in place of the shock. only one shock mounting position as far as i can tell.
  • + 1
 Yes and no. Yes, you're right, but that would mean that the shock would mount on a moving upper link inside of a very small hole. The clearance would be very tight to say the least.
  • + 2
 The plastic bar they use in frame factories to substitute in for shocks has multiple-eyelet holes at one end to adjust for different lengths of shocks and linkage configurations. If you buy a full suspension factory direct from the factory, that's how you get them.
  • + 2
 i like sam reynolds dj frame
  • + 2
 That bikes named after me! Does this mean I'm entitled to one?
  • + 1
 Just came back from Queenstown NZ. Saw some pro French riders on Polygon. Whether it was this model I couldn't be sure.
  • + 1
 i don't think it was this model, the frames at the show are first run samples.
  • + 1
 Great R&D work guys... proud of you!

Looking forward to test/ride/own it...
  • + 1
 world's ugliest frame?? you win
  • + 1
 Wrong man,doing wright....do it simple.
  • + 1
 dont know if i like or not
  • + 2
 ewwwwww
  • + 1
 Hey Pinkbike, any updates on these?
  • + 1
 I've just been sick in my mouth!
  • + 1
 Aduh deh, framenya ganteng sekali!
  • + 0
 appears to be a design adapted from aluminum prototypes, rather than a cf 'from conception' design...
  • + 1
 Bet there is a lot of side to side Felix in the rear end
  • + 1
 it's the same scheme suspension as MONDRAKER ZERO
  • + 1
 Looks sick , but sorry. Who put out a winning with Danny Hart?
  • + 2
 so ugly
  • + 2
 wow, I want.
  • + 1
 they built a bike for E.T.
  • + 1
 Just looking at it gives me a headache
  • + 2
 Looks hideous.
  • + 1
 Wow.. it's a big step... can wait to see it ride by hutchinson team..
  • + 1
 looks a bit too complicated
  • + 1
 WTF? The most weird shape for a frame that I've ever seen...but I like it
  • + 1
 looks like a trek session
  • + 1
 Love the sweeping design, cant wait to see how it performs.
  • + 1
 Weapon from Star Trek Next Gen, Set Orrin to stun....
  • + 1
 It will need a LOT of testing for me to trust it
  • + 1
 so ugly. whats wrong with simplicity?
  • + 1
 Single pivot?
  • + 1
 Yeahhhh .... Rock on baby !!!!!
  • - 1
 looks like somthing the wizard of oz would ride. Abort it, its hideous, my god. Not to mention that asymmetrical rear end gonna flex asymmetrically.
  • + 1
 wow...very nice
  • + 1
 Reminds me of a Marin!
  • + 1
 Looks many a complicated
  • + 2
 They should have put a shock on it for the show....Looks incomplete without one....I'll hold other judgement until I see the frame price...How affordable is affordable?
  • + 4
 this bike is not on display, it went from the factory to the show, then we got an exclusive look at it and then we shared it with you
  • + 1
 It should be pretty damn affordable. Their current line of bikes are great value for money, I just hope they don't hike the price because they have a WC team riding their bikes like Specialized did with the Demo, Giant did with the Glory and so on...
  • + 1
 Generally, company's sponsor riders to get their name out, and so they can stick the price up, so I would say, yes they will! Although I could be wrong, and their doing it for the fun and not the money.....
  • + 1
 Where does one order a Polygon that can be shipped to the USA for affordable price?
  • + 1
 Sorry, win.
  • + 1
 looks immortal
  • + 0
 Looks like a trek session .
  • + 1
 respect !!
  • + 1
 Sexiest bike ever!
  • + 1
 W.O.W.
  • + 0
 Alien bike
  • + 0
 f*ckable Smile
  • + 0
 looks like a jekyll
  • + 0
 BIG News!!!
  • - 3
 nice trek session
  • - 3
 This is not a Trek Session.
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