Project Freeride

Oct 29, 2013
by Danielle Baker  
If you ride bikes then you have had a bike stolen or know someone who has. This is a fact. Bike theft is rampant. This summer we have seen an elevated profile of bike theft in the local media both with police work and vigilantism. August alone saw Dunbar Cycles team up with police on an undercover operation that recovered their stolen property, police recovered seven bikes through their bate bike program, and a local Vancouver woman steal her bike back from a thief when she found it for sale on Craig’s List. And these are only the stories that have been publicized.

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Items found by police in a bike thief's backpack by police.


Bike theft falls into an ugly category of property crimes, the perfect storm for thieves; it is an easy crime with a value low enough to excuse any real punishment. Theft under $5000 in provincial court will garnish a slap on the wrist for first time offenders, fines ranging from $100-$400, suspended sentences with probation, or where there is prior related criminal behavior, short periods of jail time. With the frequency and growing popularity of it, bike theft was up 20% in Victoria last year and 38% in Calgary, we have ended up in a situation where insuring for actual value or claiming with the threat of rising deductibles often leaves us bikeless and bitter. In the past, reporting our bikes stolen to the police has felt like an exercise in futility. Often dismantled and shipped out of province before you pick up the phone, the chances of ever seeing your ride again are slim to none. But with a combination of the growing popularity of mountain biking and the rising value of our bikes, the police are taking a more pro-active approach and it leaves us, the bike owners, in the hot seat. Are we helping bike thieves and hindering police work?

On a ride-along with Cst. Dave Vunic, of the North Vancouver RCMP, I was able to see first hand the challenges of dealing with bike theft. While the police have any number of bike related traffic violations at their disposal to start a conversation with a suspected thief, it still requires a keen eye to spot when a rider does not match their ride. One thing that is on our side is that more and more police officers are now bikers. Just ask Castlegar RCMP Const. Ron George, who in a brilliant, if not planned, publicity stunt, upgraded the RCMP’s profile with mountain bikers when he dropped in for first tracks on a new local trail in full uniform. We have infiltrated the force, these people who are now looking for your bikes, might also have had their bikes stolen. They understand. They know the difference between a new Fox Float and a Canadian Tire ‘looks like full suspension’ special, and when they see it, they know that the twitchy dude who has it mounted backwards and didn’t lose his teeth from a riding accident, probably is not the rightful owner.

Finding a stolen bike in this manner, spotting suspected thieves on regular patrols, is a bit like finding a unicorn. It is awesome when it happens but you are not going to round up a herd this way. Really it is just an unlucky day for the bike thief who gets picked up on the side of the road. Additional programs have been tested, including running surveillance on locked mountain bikes in undesirable (read: where your stolen bike will likely end up) parts of town. But attempts to draw in bike thieves in this manner were unsuccessful and interest in and resources for these stings have dwindled.

Recently, however, the Whistler RCMP has deployed Project Freeride, a bait bike program where GPS units are placed inside multiple bikes throughout the municipality. Within three weeks of initiating the program a bait bike was stolen and located in a Uhaul along with seven other high end bikes on the Sea to Sky highway. These bikes represented an approximate $15,000 resale value to Danny Paquet and Michael Stone, the two men who were apprehended. Paquet, a 45 year old Vancouver resident, has been charged with mischief, theft over $5000, three counts of possession of stolen property over $5000, and two counts possession of a controlled substance (methamphetamine and heroin). Stone, a 47 year old Surrey resident, has been charged with mischief, theft over $5000 and three counts of stolen property. Within 24 hours of the arrests and recovery, eight other detachments had contacted the Whistler police about their program.

Bikes seized on the Sea to Sky highway.

The seven bikes that were seized during Project Freeride's first operation.


Out of all the stolen bikes that the police reclaim only about 30% are reunited with their owners. With the odds against us we have become lax in our vigilance. Without police reports filed, there is no opportunity for follow up. Furthermore without a serial number, when someone is apprehended with a potential stolen bike there is no course of action for the police to take. Danny Paquet and Michael Stone were caught with seven bikes, but so far have only been charged with three counts each of possession of stolen property as four of the stolen bikes, a Norco Reval, Kona Howler, Rocky Mountain Slayer, and Specialized Stump Jumper, remain unclaimed/reported stolen by their owners and therefore police cannot verify that they are actually stolen property. "This is a great example of some of the challenges we face. We have 4 decent bikes that have not been parted out that we would like to reuinite with their owners. Currently not only are we not able to do that, but it becomes difficult to charge the suspects with a theft when we cannot prove who the lawful owner is." says Whistler RCMP Sgt. Rob Knapton. We have become accomplices to the thieves. In fact the chances are that your missing bike has been called in over the radio but returned nothing, as it was not documented. Our sport is growing, bikes are becoming more and more expensive and with it we are grabbing the attention of both criminals and cops. But we are the ones who can make the most impact when it comes to loss prevention. We need to be attentive.

For all of your rides, record the brand, model, color, serial number, and modifications. Lock them up, and then lock them up again. Be aware of your surroundings. Stop Stravaing your rides from your house. Be smart, think about the bigger picture. While Kayla Smith 'stole' her bike back, and we all love a good vigilante story with a happy ending, the thief has probably already stolen a few more bikes since then. Adam Mantle from Dunbar Cycles teamed up with police and using his online research they were able to arrest and charge Wesley John Devries. He has not stolen a bike since. If your bike is stolen, by all means look for it on Craig’s List, put in the time and be proactive, but team up with police when you find it. While myopic actions can be sensationalized, they will do nothing to progress a solution for our community as a whole.

Even while following all of the steps and knowing that we are making progress in the war, nothing will make the realization that your bikes are gone feel any better. In the end bike theft is like cancer, it will affect your life in some way. Well, f*ck cancer and f*ck bike thieves. Like my favourite t-shirt says “I don’t even want this bike back. I just made up these flyers to tell you that I hate you, bike thief. I hope you ride my bike without a helmet and get hit by a monster truck. I hope my bike takes you straight to hell.

Should you have any information that will help reunite the stolen bikes with their owners, and in turn help police to levy stiffer penalties against the accused, please contact Whistler RCMP at 604-932-3044.

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201 Comments
  • 253 1
 There is a very special place in Hell for bike thiefs......
  • 87 1
 A place with no bikes to ride thats Hell
  • 80 1
 A place in Hell where they can ride bikes that have no saddles
  • 105 1
 No, hell is being stuck on a toilet for all of eternity with nothing to read. Not even a shampoo bottle.
  • 16 4
 Hahahahaha i know exactly how you feel. Same problem when eating breakfast cereal with no computer.
  • 36 0
 " A place in Hell where they can ride bikes that have no saddles" - I think that is called Trials riding.
  • 30 14
 there is a place in hell for bike thiefs where 29 inch hypers are the only bike available
  • 13 2
 "A place reserved for child molesters, those who talk at the theater."
  • 1 0
 that toilet one Depends (pun slightly intentional), do they have Montezumas revenge for that whole eternity? cuz that would suck!
  • 9 0
 I have a specialized Camber 2011-2012 Gold White Black Scheme Stolen July 2013, I would die to have it back. Please look at my profile and see the bike. If you have any where abouts Contact 604-807-2610. My dad had the Garage open for 5 Minutes to go to the front and the bike theif took it than.
  • 4 0
 @Opinions
Haha,did you just quote firefly?!?
  • 1 0
 A Hell where there is no such thing as a mountain. Now that is a Hell.
  • 11 0
 I thought that I was the only one that read shampoo bottles when on the throne!! Haha
  • 4 3
 A place in hell where they are forced to ride on bikes with thick thorny dildos for saddles!
  • 3 0
 @laynehip tbf if hell was rocky i'd be all over that shit on a trials bike...
  • 4 5
 a special place in hell for bike thefts is a place where you can not sit, always have explosive diarrhea, and the only bike is a 29er hiper with no seat or peadals.
  • 5 1
 A very special place in hell with 29er wallymart bikes... And no trails...
  • 4 0
 to the asshole that just stole my banshee amp ! fuck you!
  • 6 1
 to the asshole who stole my shovels and my rake. Fuck you!
  • 2 0
 A place in hell with no saddles or brakes
  • 3 1
 a place in hell when the uplift never arrives
  • 66 1
 I had my A-Line stolen from a store front 2 years ago while I was in the store. The bike had some upgrades, but for a 2004 downhill bike, it still weighed 55lbs. To make a long story short, I caught up to him and left him on the side of the road with a broken knee. I woundn't hesitate to do it again. F@#K Bike Thieves!
  • 1 1
 just a note: never leave your bike unlocked and if it is locked never for over a half hour or so at the most, never had a bike stolen that way Smile
  • 9 0
 An even better rule, if your bike is worth a lot to you, not just in value, you should spend some money on a real lock. Cable locks are not useful at all.
  • 10 0
 yeah, the best lock I've found is to ride with a friend and go into shops one at a time for stuff and have your friend sit outside with the bikes
  • 8 0
 There is no lock that these F****** can't break... Had to experience it last summer. And I was only gone for 20 minutes!
Just don't leave your bike anywhere other than next to your bed or under you ass! ;-)
  • 11 7
 I have an $80 lock, which actually came with $750 of insurance if someone could cut through it and take your bike. I left the bike outside the store, which had giant pane glass windows, which I had leaned the bike against so I could easily see the bike the whole time I was in the store. I didn't lock the bike because it was in plain view, in the middle of a sunny day, with many people around. ( A VERY public place ) which was the only reason why I was able to find out which way the piece of sh*t went. I do feel like a dumbass for having the lock on me as my bike was stolen, but I also feel good because that's what I used to break the motherf@#kers knee. I have learned my lesson. Keep my bike inside and plan my routes so I don't have to lock my bike up and leave it alone.
  • 11 19
flag cyrix (Oct 29, 2013 at 16:56) (Below Threshold)
 Wait wait. You chased down the bike thief, got the bike back, took the time to take the lock off, then attacked them and broke their knee? The bike thief stood around and waited for you? Or you went after them and attacked them? If it's the latter I assume you were arrested for assault.
  • 9 1
 If you think locks are going to stop dedicated thieves, Liquid Nitrogen has something to say to you.
  • 24 7
 No. I had the lock with me while the guy was trying to bike away with my bike. As the bike was heavy and he had chosen a slight up hill path, I was fast enough to catch up to him and swing the lock at him as he was pedaling. I hit his knee with a lucky shot which threw him off the bike and when he got up to swing at me, I swung again at the same knee and definitely did some damage. He hit the ground in a lot of pain. I grabbed my bike and pedaled away. Two witnesses, plus the thief. Not arrested, no issues. I win. Thief lost.
  • 8 7
 PLUS Three city surveillance cameras trained in that area.
  • 20 1
 plus its f*cling canada, nobody gets charged for assaulting bike theives
  • 7 35
flag cyrix (Oct 29, 2013 at 23:00) (Below Threshold)
 I would hope Canada isn't a society that says that violently attacking and crippling someone over minor theft is okay. If it's self defense that's one thing, but just going after someone isn't. I would hope Canadians are more civilized.
  • 11 6
 Thats totally ok of someone steals your shit @cyrix what would you do, ask him politely to give it back?
  • 3 1
 I would hurt the thief as bad as I could to get back any stolen bike. Hell if they broke into my home or came onto my property I would just kill them. Take sh!t that's not yours you risk serious justifiable injury or death....
  • 11 15
flag cyrix (Oct 30, 2013 at 0:44) (Below Threshold)
 No matthewreeves, I would attempt to get my stuff back and defend myself if they attacked me. As I said, which you clearly are incapable of understanding so I'll spell it out for you, I would defend myself if attacked as I would expect anyone would do. But I wouldn't chase someone after i got my stuff back and then try to cripple them because in the rest of the civilized world you'd go to jail. You can pretend that wouldn't happen, but it would and it does ALL THE TIME. There's a big difference between self defense and going after someone to harm them.

Do people here really not understand how the law works or do they really think they can run after someone and then maim and attack them and get away with it? Would I want to? Yeah. But if I did I know I'd end up in jail, so would every single person in all of north america. How do people not understand how the law works?

Now If that's not clear I will happily clear it up even further for you sport. Just let me know little buddy!!
  • 7 1
 Smoosh you have great self control dude , I think the red mist would of took over on me ...
  • 3 1
 In England there was tap for some time whether or not it should be legal to attack and even shoot (as log as it wasn't fatal) a burglar inside your home. I'm not sure if the law passed but if someone, without permission, swings a leg over your bike, as long as you can prove the bike belongs to you, you should be able to defend your bike. Massive props to you for having the guts to go after a thief! Your balls are roughly the size of Kyle straits!
  • 2 0
 a good shop will let you bring your bike inside!!!
  • 3 0
 Thanks @bigburd and @Lukachadwick, but I hope that it never happens again. I respect you @cyrix for being a law abiding citizen. Yes we do understand how the law works, but here in Canada, we're not ones to roll over and take it in the @ss, and watch some douchebag pedal away on your bike. I would have gladly taken the assault charges to court with my attorney knowing that my bike is safe at home, and that thief will think again before trying to steal another bike.
  • 10 0
 actually Cyrix, what would happen in the USA, is that you'd confront the thief, start a fight, beat them up, get your bike back. You're happy! BUT...

THEN, you'd end up on some wacky TV court show like Jude Judy being sued by the thief because you beat him up and now he's unable to make a living stealing bikes to pay for his rent and because it's Judge Judy she would feel sorry for the thief and you'd end up paying him money and likely giving the bike back to them because they need it more than you.

Seems like a crazy scenario, quite laughable, but most likely to happen in the USA where people sue each other left and right every time a wrong is committed. I like the fact that smooshsmoosh got his vigilante revenge and thus the thief got what he really deserved, hopefully forever ending his bike stealing ways....F**K the thieves...
  • 7 3
 I'm thinking Cyrix, your either a cop or a lawyer, cause if not that self-righteous BS you are preaching is falling on a a lot of deaf ears... Only someone involved with law enforcement would have your attitude.. I bet you also have a hard-on for Health and Safety too! Deadly assault, normal assault and gun crime are one of the highest in the world in USA, so I assume not all your 'comrades' feel the same way..
  • 6 0
 You can kill someone who enters your property, but you can't beat up a thief.
logical, isn't it?
  • 3 0
 If you're gonna chase down the guy on your bike and try to get it back, it only makes sense to put the guy down hard enough that he can't retaliate. It's not a matter of catching an assault charge, it's a matter of your own safety. You never know who you're dealing with or how dangerous they are, and people are shot or severely beaten for a lot less than a bike all the time. The thief chose to take his chances when he stole the bike. He gets what he gets.
  • 3 2
 No, I'm actually a Chef. I don't think the fact that you would be arrested is good, and I'm not defending that. I'm just stating facts. I think it sucks, if someone robs me of course I want to beat the shit out of them. But I know I'd get arrested too unless it was self defense. It's seriously just basic logic and knowledge of the law, and I'm amazed so many people here don't grasp it or think that the law for some reason doesn't apply to them. It seriously blows my mind.
  • 5 0
 We (and I) understand that its illegal man. I don't think i'm above the law whatsoever, the law always applies to me, but I do choose to obey it or not, For example: I drive about 10 km above the posted speed limit just about everywhere I go, sometimes even faster, and cops will drive by me or stay behind me and not pull me over. I'm breaking the law, right? Shouldn't I be pulled over and given a ticket? Yes i'm subject to any punishment and fines of the law, but its up the the officer to use his discretion and decide whether its worth the money and resources to prosecute. The police here have their hands full with murders, child porn makers, hard drug dealers, etc. My uncle is a crown prosecutor in Toronto, He says my situation wouldn't have even gone to the court room. Police bringing something so minor, like a thief getting beat up in the middle of his crime, to a court room would only piss a judge off for wasting the courts time.

I can understand your point of view tho. The police in the USA love throwing its citizens in jail. Hence your incarceration percentage.
  • 4 2
 Seeing someone with common sense is refreshing here. Thanks for that.
  • 2 0
 I don't understand why you guys keep bringing up Canadian or US. In the end of the day we're both Americans and I am pretty sure most in those circumstances, where our bikes got stolen, will not break another's knee for such actions. Most Canadians still love bringing up what they saw in television about USA but in all reality it's the same thing here in Canada.
  • 1 0
 ^ Agreed.
  • 48 2
 Should have used that bolt cutter to take a thumb from that bike thief.
  • 14 1
 beat me to it. but I was thinking toes...
  • 12 1
 How bout both...
  • 40 0
 Do it the old fashion way, cut of his right hand. (then bitchslap the shit out of him with it)
  • 5 0
 Chain splitter through his (or her) finger nails? Think of branding like a pirate.
  • 8 0
 You could just go old school and beat him with some bombers
  • 8 1
 testicles. get the testicles man. one way to tell a bike thief is if he sings soprano.
  • 1 0
 Sorry @Lmackall6, but I have to agree with @timeippeth here. Whilst toes are a start, I think fingers are more productive. One they have no fingers the c**ts can't grip cable cutters so will never be able to nick a bike again.
  • 41 0
 This reminds me when my bike ALMOST got stolen. They tried to break into my garage at 3am. Luckily I was studying and heard them. My hands were shaking but I managed to call the police. 2 minutes later, 4, I repeat, 4 police cars appeared out of nowhere and caught them while they were still in my garage. BIG THANKS TO THE SPANISH POLICE AND MY DAMN EXAM! Remember kids, studying can actually save your bike!
  • 2 0
 I had the same thing happen to me, unfortunately they were not caught but did leave empty handed despite the bikes being un-locked ready to ride.
  • 3 0
 That's because in the UK, you call the police and they 'maybe' arrive 4 days later!
  • 6 0
 hello, police somebodys in my property stealing my stuff well we might turn up in a few hours if we're not too busy..... hello police somebodys in my property stealing my stuff an im about to attack them with a chainsaw...... 5 riot vans will be there in MOMENTS! garunteed!! with the UK police you gotta milk it, to get them to take you seriously
  • 19 0
 I had my Santa Cruz Nomad stole last year off the back of my truck parked in the driveway of my house. It was locked up. My renters insurance didn't cover it because it was on my car... So, if you opt for insurancr, make sure you check your insurance plans carefully.

I called the police, made an official report, and made flyers and posted them everywhere offering a reward. I assumed someone sketchy enough to jack a bike probably has sketchy friends that would turn him in. A local bike shop employee ended up spotting my bike with the perp riding it a few weeks later. He called the police, who were VERY slow to respond. He trailed the guy, an after a few more calls back and forth with the police and a hour or two of elapsed time... The police finally showed up and busted the guy. He did jail time.

The kid that made the call to the police? Well, he was about to go into the marine corps and had to sell his bike to pay for storing his stuff while in boot camp. My reward money prevented him from having to do that. You can't make up better shit than that.... Jose... You are THE BEST.

Points of the story... Don't give up. f*ck those bike theives. Good things happen to good people. Oh... And double-triple-quadruple lock your bikes. With a Rottweiler.
  • 3 0
 My pit-bull/boxer lock always seems to work Wink
  • 1 0
 my body lock works, get good enough at stalls and technical hops and you will never have to leave your bike agian
  • 17 0
 For those who aren't legal experts, being charged with "mischief" in Canada is equivalent to being charged with "shenanigans" in America.
  • 8 0
 sounds identical to british hooligans... except they wear derby hats and penny loafers...
  • 10 0
 And that is why you don't let the police deal with them. YOU deal the fuckers. Broken knee caps and missing fingers is the way to go.
  • 4 0
 If that was how they were handled, bike theft would be a lot less common
  • 11 2
 I swear to god I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says "shenanigans."
  • 3 0
 Ugh, I'm all for the whole "vigilante batman" thing, but the truth is that these people are criminals, and usually run in gangs or packs of dangerous people. All I'm saying is, if you can beat the piss out of them, and them not see you, wicked, but there can be a lot of negative backlash. And even though he stole your bike, if there are witnesses, you yourself can be charged with Aggravated assault, assault with a weapon etc... This is not a misdemeanor, that's a criminal record/jail time.

Basically I'm saying the system is f**king retarded, and unfortunately you can't break their legs and throw them in the river.
  • 1 1
 this is the only example i can think of.. where the stand your ground rule ..makes a good introduction..
  • 1 0
 I dunno, a lot of thiefs are druggys and punks. If you check them they will not try you again at least. I had a burglar in my house and made him return my shit, he was not to cocky after a bit of wrestling and loud mouthing. But stay safe and remember something are not worth jail time, like a tv or such..bikes are def. worth some jail time though.
  • 4 0
 Shenanigans
  • 3 0
 ...is that place I like to eat with all the goofy shit on the walls.
  • 2 0
 the only place in town that serves crotch-sweat marinated jalapeno poppers. don't forget to wear your flair!
  • 14 0
 I just recovered my stolen 2008 RM Slayer SS from Salt Lake after 8 months. It was crazy, never thought I'd see the bike again. It still rips too.
  • 5 0
 congrats!
  • 5 0
 8 months!? dam!
  • 2 0
 Same ive had a Rocky flow and a NS Majesty stolen from me but with the help of the police managed to get both of them back, actually ended up finding one here on PB Smile
  • 14 0
 So when you go on a ride-along with the RMCP, do you get like a 2 seater horse or what?
  • 10 0
 Store's should send serial #/model information with the new owners name to the bike companies. That way police could get the name of the original bike owner from the manufacturer.
  • 5 3
 You assume that bike shops, or rather the entire industry as a whole, is organized enough to do this LOL
  • 6 0
 Then make it law to have to do so. At the point of sale, the shop fills in a card, identical across the nation/state etc that the bike company has had to include in the box. It has a pre-paid stamp on it and the shop is legally bound to mail it. Would it surprise you to find that Japan has something like this (although not yet compulsory)? All bike shops have the cards. It costs 300yen (3 bucks) if you want to register your bike, and the information goes into the national bike database. When you sell a bike on Yahoo Auctions, people can ask you for your copy of it, and if you don't have it, can just walk away from the sale. The card goes with the bike. It's amazing what you can achieve with a will you know,
  • 2 0
 We do a local bike license with every new bike we sell. All the bike/owner data is put into a big database at the police station.
Kinda thought this was the norm everywhere!
  • 3 0
 If you care about your bike just jot down the serial number on the wall of your garage. Takes 5 seconds.
  • 3 0
 Hawaii does this. Its a law to register your bike, if you get pulled over without it its a ticket and everything. However, they do this because the bike theft is insanely high, not sure if it has helped any or not.
  • 4 0
 Many people, their bike stores and maybe even the local police have the serial number written down. The problem is when the bike gets stolen and then shipped out of your local area. Then all the police have to begin tracking is the model/serial number on the bike, they don't know where it came from. With bikes getting so expensive I don't see why the manufacturers can't make a simple to use "registered serial number" website for police.
  • 1 0
 why dont we get a third-party working on this? it wouldnt be too hard to have an online database set-up by someone where anyone can register their bike. similar to something like Car-fax. when you enter the serial# with your name, its in there permanently. however, if one was to search up the serial number to your bike, it would not give you a name without special permission ie: police, the companies themselves(for their own models) etc... then you print off a card and there you go, proof of ownership that can be accessed anywhere in the world. just a thought
  • 1 0
 It's a nice idea Jay, there are some quite serious questions that would need to be addressed before anyone would take it as more than a "pie in the sky" idea. The main issues I can think of are "How would it become universal?" and "What would be in it for the developer of the online database?". Unless maybe I had links to a criminal body that was looking for ways to get people to tell me both their personal details and their high end bikes through their serial numbers that is. My point is that a) in the case of cars, there is a huge second hand market with literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of registered car dealerships that have both an interest in maintaining and accessing the data, plus a similar number of individuals who act as street dealers, plus individual buyers looking to buy direct that could find use of this service. We are talking about bikes that we do not intend to buy or sell, but that we wish to protect against theft and in particular increase our chances of getting a bike back if it is found by the authorities, thus giving the developer limited opportunities to make a profit from the scheme and b) that, in my opinion, databases of private property that can be used to both i) charge offenders found in possession (see the article above) and ii) returned to their owners should be dealt with on the nation/state level rather than an online entrepreneur. I may have got that all wrong though.
  • 1 0
 I think you may have misinterpreted what I put-forth. i do wish for that to become a buy and sell site. it would be a site to store your bikes personal serial number online. i thought that would work because when a bike is stolen, especially a high-end model, it tends to not stick around. i know for a fact that when a bike is stolen here in golden (town of three thousand) it can usually be found in vancouver or calgary. i know also that many local police detachments do keep some high-end bike #s on file. but if the bike is in another province or even country, what good is that going to do? if this were to go online, the data to prove that that bike is yours, could be accessed anywhere with an internet signal. As for it becoming universal, it would just need to be held on an int'l domain. and then of course have the pages translated to the proper language. and as for the developer, there could be a small fee ($5 CAD) to register the bike. this would go to server fees as well as a profit to the developer once more numbers start to come in. and to address your concern on the buy/sell portion, that would not be accessible by anyone. you would not be able to search by brand or anything of that sort. what would have to be incorporated into the program though would have to be a transfer option if you do happen to sell your bike. but there would be no way for anyone to look for a bike. all that their profile would allow them to do is add or transfer/delete a bike from the database. and most new parts have serial numbers on them. so you could add the numbers from your wheels fork breaks etc.
  • 2 0
 These are supposed to be "comments" not doctorate theses on criminal psychology,
  • 2 0
 Thanks Jay, I get you. I was thinking bigger scale, however I can see how that would work on a local level very well. Good luck. Why not make it a pet project yourself... you never know, it could open some doors for you. Go for it.

Max, there should be, and is thankfully, no limit on these comments having to be restricted to "booyaka" comments. Let's say Jay decided to try and make his idea a reality, and it worked..... what's the problem? I for one welcome anyone who is prepared to go a bit deeper.
  • 10 0
 Anyone who gets busted for stealing bikes should have their photo and location plastered all over the Interwebs... you know, just so we, ahem, know them in case we see them...
  • 1 0
 Yeah, there should be some kind of website list, like when they have to list paedophiles in your area! Name and shame the bastards!
  • 1 0
 Concur... just to know the face... or what it used to look like... Props to the team behind the sting here!
  • 1 0
 I tried to do this! The police told me I could get arrested and charged with defamation or slander! Ridiculous. Still hasn't stopped the local bike shop from putting his photo up Smile
  • 10 1
 Dear PB,

I love this site. It gives me somewhere to feed my addiction to news about the bike industry and share ideas with like minded people. There are a plethora of video updates and news of who has been the "raddest", who has been "shredding the sickest gnar" and generally encouraging whoops of delight from the Heckler's Rock love in crowd who possess more testosterone than may be medically advisable.

There is also, not enough of this kind of article. Informative, encouraging, practical. As someone has said here, it is VALID, which is far too often a word that many here find difficult to ascribe to either some of the selected articles and more often than not, the comments sections. Well done Danielle Baker. Take note PB, a contributor you should use much, much more. Thanks.
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 Just curious how many bikes you've had stolen?
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 None since 1990, when my first ever MTB, (80GBP!!) was stolen whilst I was delivering Political Literature in support of my candidacy for the local government. I was 22 at the time and had locked the bike to a public bench while I was delivering leaflets to the houses in a block of flats. Got it back 2 years later when I confronted a guy at a pub and suggested it was my bike, so asked hi to wait around until the police arrived, who confirmed it was mine and I got it back, Since then, luckily maybe, none.
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 I loved the way this article was written. Danielle has read the great writers, for sure.
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 "Theft under $5000 in provincial court will garnish a slap on the wrist for first time offenders"

Wow, Canada is pretty lax. Over 500$ in the states is a felony, likely jail time & a decent fine. Id guess a 5k+ bike would net you some serious shit!
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flag matthewreeves13 (Oct 29, 2013 at 23:19) (Below Threshold)
 Haha yeah canadas pretty lax
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 My bike that was stolen and recovered retailed about $7k and the perp did jail time ONLY because he had two prior offenses for the SAME thing over the past 6 months. I was told that otherwise, he would have done community service and had to pay a fine. So, it's "supposed" to be a major penalty, but the system has a way of letting them off easy. It's too bad.
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 and that jail time was spent on a cozy bed with three free meals a day
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 I am so envious of your legal system compared to ours in the UK, I remember a story where a race team van was broken into and 4 downhill bikes stolen and when they caught the guy he was given 20 hours of community service, there just isn't anything to put them off trying it considering they were getting away with about £20,000 worth of bikes!
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 A recent Freedom of Information Act request by the BBC to 10 police forces across the Midlands (UK) found that 18,000 bikes were reported stolen in 2012 but only 6% were returned to their rightful owners. Shocking recovery-rates stats. There was a recent magazine story on the BBC Midlands about this all only yesterday. UK folks will be able to watch it here www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03flktm/Inside_Out_West_Midlands_28_10_2013
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 There should be an explosive trigger activated lock that busts through flesh but not carbon or steel just to F*ck up the thieves hand and splatter paint over them. Someone take my idea and make it happen. time to give these recurring thieves some innovative pain, and you know some much needed retaliation.
Im sorry for those who have lost a loved one (their ride of course)
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 Yes! I wanted to do this a while back but it involved electrocution. Let's lock that down people!
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 either way lets find a way to make those dick shits suffer! i like it!
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 The police in England couldn't care less about bike theft. When my bikes were stolen recently I was told they "didn't have the resources to investigate theft from a shed"!?! A week later however they did have the resources to "clamp down" on more serious crimes, such as using a mobile phone and applying make-up while stuck in traffic. You know, the kind of serious crime that generates revenue through fines.

Here's an idea UK police, try DOING YOUR F&#$ING JOBS!!!
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 Some little bugger decided to try and steal my 4x bike while i was moving this year, I got it out the van and put it against a wall and got back in the van to grab something else, came out to see him booting it down the road, luckily I had my downhill bike in the van too. He made the mistake of going through the town gardens which are on quite a steep decline, he had to take the paths down but not for me! I jumped a stair set and landed on the f**ker! made his head bleed where my rotor slammed into him. Haven't seen him since he ran off. That's justice! Smile
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 rAtty-c, I bet that felt good. Lucky.
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 I had my Walmart bike as a kid stolen but if never had my kona or norco stolen. I don't leave my bikes outside locked up, if I can't take it in I walk or take a bus. Why would you lock up your expensive bike with a $20 lock in the street for everyone to see? Bike thieves don't care it takes 10 seconds to steal a bike.
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 It wouldn't matter if it was a $200 CCM or a $10K Scott. Its the principle, don't take whats not yours.
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 Sorry smooshsmoosh, although I agree with you and was always brought up to believe you don't take what is not yours, there is a life lesson we all need to learn here. ## SpaceEel still has his Kona and Norco whilst people wh lock em up outside have had their bikes stolen ##. Principles are all well and good but mean jack when your social situation and environment "makes you do it". In this case, hard cash and financial pressure gets involved; in particular, it gets involved with Jonny Lightfingers' empty wallet. Don't just take my word from it, read the research on the area of pyschology known as Cognitive Dissonace (where we use strategies to convince ourselves that a course of action is justified):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
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 I understand what you are saying orientdave. People need to survive, and will go to great lengths and take great risks to provide for themselves and the ones they care for. This guy took a risk, and it was a risk he shouldn't have taken.
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 a good idea is to engrave/scratch or write the serial number of your bike or like the first 5 digits onto other parts of your bike that arent visible. for example under the end caps of a hope hub or on the axle of a rear hub under the freehub body. under your seat, on a pedal axle. you could even write the serial number on the inside of a linkage or somewhere hidden on your frame too. that way if you need to identify your bike and prove to the police its yours and the serial number is grinded off, just ask kindly if they mind if you take off your pedal body to look at the spindle or under your end caps or freehub.
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 Excellent Idea.
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 "Out of all the stolen bikes that the police reclaim only about 30% are reunited with their owners."

Sadly in the UK that number is in the low single digit %'s. I've heard numbers as low as 2%-3% of bikes recovered are returned to their owners in the UK, so great effort on the part of those involved in this sting.
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 It's low single digits because the police here couldn't care less. I had a nice bike stolen (they broke in to the uni halls bike shed, chopped up the metal work the bikes were chained to, didn't even bother with the chains, and took about 20 bikes - I chained it to the gas pipe after that) and the policeman honestly said to me "it's not like it's a car, is it?".

The only reason to report a crime is to get a crime reference number to give to the insurance company.
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 I would like to know which king of gps unit you can put in your bike ?
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 I looked into doing this, hiding a GPS unit in the seat tube but the system worked out to be somewhat complicated and you have to replace the battery surprisingly often. There is probably a way of doing it well, but not at a realistic price!
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 Someone should make stickers that say the bike has a hidden gps tracker, like the fake home alarm stickers, I'd buy some.
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 BikeSpike. .
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 @Protour: Come by the Whistler RCMP detachment if you would like a "bait bike" sticker.
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 Bike theft is huge here, especially on campus. Several years ago campus police purchased a bait bike and managed to let the first thief get away with it......it was an embarassment.....Bait bikes are a good idea, but only in the proper hands.
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 I had my stumpjumper expert stolen my freshman year by one of the douchier frats on campus. I took the composite pictures out of their frat and hung them up from second story windows and trees all around campus. I also took their Mario Kart and held it before going to their president to personally return it and explain why I did it. Haven't been F*ucked with since.
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 Well played sir
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 Got my previous bike stolen before literally just 5 steps away from our front door and I had a terrible experience trying to find it. Teaming up with police? I'm sorry but here in Chicago the only help you'll get from them is a good ol' smirk and some unsolicited "good luck finding your bike" advice.
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 The thing is the police over here don't care about getting bikes back (at least where I live). I had my bike stolen, reported it and then waited as the thieving bastard rode around town, in broad daylight, outside the rozzer station. I even gave them the serial number of the bike. However I wasn't allowed to even see the bike myself at any stage apart from when the scumbag rode past my house on my bike. To this day I still have a chain whip and pedal spanner with the guy's name on.
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 lol, chi town? youre not even in the same country Wink
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 Choosing your "hometown" instead of the place where you currently reside are two different thing buddy. =]
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 well then. if you put your 'hometown' where it says 'currently location'.. id say you didnt follow directions Wink

just giving you shit.. i wished my 'hometown' was not here =/
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 Who follows directions anyway? JK

Just trying to represent you know
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 I don't think Chicago could be any worse for bike theft. I recently started riding my bike to the Metra train station and I lock up my bike with a Kryptonite U-Lock. Despite being unable to cut through the lock (I'm sure given the proper tools it wouldn't be a problem) the theif still stole my front wheel and handlebars. Probably worth $50 total on the secondary market. Since then I have brought my bike with me on the train out to the burbs. I have seen countless bikes ripped off since then. Wheels, handlebars, seatposts, they will steal whatever they can.
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 I use an Almax Motorcycle chain in the UK - literally the closest thing to unbreakable and unpick able with a Squire SC65CS padlock the lock has never been bolt cropped manually or hydraulically - it comes with a weight penalty but if I'm in my car the lock comes with me. the only way you could remove the lock if you did not have the key would be to cut the frame in half...........
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 A friend of mine had a bike stolen while we were at volleyball practice. about a year later we found it over 5 hours away when we were at a volleyball tournament. he ended up getting it back. I don't think i've ever seen him as happy as he was.
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 Way to go! Keep em coming in and behead all theives.
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 Had 2 bikes stolen from my garage in September... theft over $5k (well over), we have a good idea who did it, so do the cops but it can't be proven. No sign of them online for sale yet. Can't replace them so still hoping I might one day find them.

I know what I'd do with those bolt cutters and screw driver if you left me alone with the scumbags who took the bikes.
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 So many proponents of Sharia Law on Pinkbike...who'd have thought it...
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 Take a photo of your bike, the receipt, and photo of the serial number with your phone. You will have proof of purchase, dated, and description with you at all times if you do this very simple thing. Even a selfie of you and the bike may help.
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 I'm lucky. I commute through the forest to work, shift work, in Nova Scotia. At night my bike sits locked outside to a bike rack just beyond the window of the company's security. Do I think it's secure? No, not for a moment. If a thief want's it and he has half a brain he will have it. Recording the serial number and description, which I'm sure all of us could rattle off without difficulty, is the only hope of getting back. I lived in MacKenzie B.C. for 10 years. During that time bikes went missing and the thieves were eventually caught. They were guys who I often met on the street, said hello to, and had no idea they were the swine behind the worst crime I could imagine. Its not just heroin heads from the lower mainland who want your ride. They all have their own reasons and couldn't give a F#%k how much you'll miss riding when it is gone. Take care of you beloved bike friends.
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 BLOW TORCH AND PAIR OF PLYERS,(NOT to steal bikes but to use on the F*CKING SKANKEY THIEVES).They would'nt be able to steal any more bikes if they had no F*cking fingers left(and would be easy for the Police to spot them to.) :-)
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 I was thinking about some kind of capacitive discharge system on a motion engaged timer. Maybe a brief warning before you get the shit tazed out of you by the very bike you stole.
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 Like Blade's sword?
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 I wish the police in fairfax would do something like this Since September my friends have had 4 nice bikes stolen a giant trance giant reign a specialized status and a cannondale hard tail
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 I ride bikes and all my friends bike and I haven't got one stolen or know someone who has had their stolen. I either have friends with good locks or live in the right place.
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 Or don't talk to enough people. I worked in a few bike shops. I used to see people come in almost daily with stolen bikes. Its a nasty common problem, even on the low end bike side.
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 Thank you Whistler RCMP!!!!
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 Can you imagine being a 45 year old meth head bike thief. They should have just tied rocks to their ankles and thrown the two skids in the ocean.
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 Having an addiction problem will cause you to do crazy things. Not that it's an excuse, but I'm sure they weren't thinking about the consequences of their actions or the people it would effect.
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 For the price of bikes these days they should come with a tracking chip in the frame.
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 sorry but this is going to be what it is going to be, those fuxtarts should pay dearly for this....Break there arms..and legs...and JKJKJJKJKJKJ they should just go to jail........right...
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 i have had several bike stolen, ill admit the situation was preventable but i usualy get them back.. never by myself but by friends. now that i have a valuable bike i NEVER leave it anywere out of sight. besides my shed
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 Thanks for the article. Prompted me to get off my ass and take pictures of our bikes and document serial numbers. I also put an extra lock on our garage door after someone tampered with our security keypad.
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 F@#k thieves!
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 I hope an owner of one of these bikes see's this. Get your ride back and also lock it up better next time fool!!
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 "Stop Stravaing your rides from your house. ". Who does that? How stupid are you?
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 Strava actually has a feature that can blank out something like a 1km radius around your house. If you use that, it'll never lead thieves to your door.
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 yeah, that's what i use
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 It helps for sure, however it is not fail safe. Some pretty basic GIS (Geographical Information Systems) software can take the loaction of your rides and will very soon nail down the area you live I am afraid. The tech is used to try and locate areas where multiple offenders may live given the locations of their crimes. It is surprisingly accurate. Be safe people and edit your Strava use; it may save tears.
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 ...another great reason not to Strava.
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 But the only Strava record I hold is the one down my driveway... I guess to protect my bikes, I shall be QOM of the driveway no more...
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 I have a room mate with piles of guns and I have the same as well as 3 pits so if they come to my place they will lose more than just skin.
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 why don't they build some kind of super small computer chip into the frame so you can locate the bike with your computer when it's stolen.
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 thats what i was thinking, like they use to locate lost dogs/cats
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 I had my at the time 1 month old DeVinci Dixon stolen...I think if I ever met the guy his hospital bill would be more than my bike
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 Fuck bike thieves. If you come around my house you are getting malled by one of my dogs or shot by yours truly.
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 The worst kind of people. Steal my car, steal my TV, but don't touch my bikes man... they're the most valuable/beloved things I own!
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 I got mine back after it appeared 3+ moths later on Craig's list and ebay. The cops went and picked it up from the pawn shop as soon as I notified them.
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 The place in hell is where they're force to ride supercycles with a 7 inch seat post up their ass
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 Great article with a lot of valid, useful information. Well-done, PB.
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 This is why my ride is locked in a room while not in use and I don't take it to the store for a bag of chips.
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 What kind of moron has their bike stolen and doesn't report it to the police?
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 The kind who knows the police won't do anything. At all.
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 Regardless, why would you not take a little time out of your day to report it, just on the off chance?
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 I have better things to do with my time than be told "it's not like it's a car, is it?". Like gas on PinkBike Razz
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 The point of making a police report is if it's found they hang onto bikes. Seriously, I can walk down to my station and look into the garage and see about 50 bikes in there right now. If they find it and you didn't file a police report it'll sit there for a little while then go to auction. If you did file a police report and they found it you get it back. Seriously, not filing a police report is stupid.
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 Be grateful you have a police station Wink Ours is a curry house!

Honestly I'd make the report. But just for the crime reference number to give to the insurance company. The police have so far done nothing to endear me to them. The quote above is what the policeman said to me when I reported my bike stolen, so you'll have to forgive me for being cynical Smile
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 well yeah even just reporting it for the crime reference number is a good idea. People that don't insure their bikes and don't report it when they're stolen are morons.
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 I'd cut off an arm and a leg, cause that's how much my bike cost...you can't put a price on sentimental value!
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 My trusty Santa Cruz Driver 8 was stolen from my car on Canada Day this year. Bike thieves are not patriotic.
  • 1 0
 most of the time a cheap crappy hack bike is cheaper than a good lock thats pretty much how fixies became fasionable
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 If you catch a bike thiefe beat the crap out of him. Bait bikes is a great idea thank you RCMP.
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 We need LoJack for bikes... million dollar idea... Yes...No?
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 It would probably deter thieves if they could be tracked and arrested.
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 METH
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 of course this was part of it. Meth and Herioin
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 so encourage consumerism on s-works demo? okay
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 Would I be downvoted for starting a political debate?
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 FRANCIS!
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