Video: Gwin, Minnaar and Atherton Pursuing Perfection - presented by Saint

Nov 9, 2012
by Anthill Films  


Words by Richard Cunynghame

The points start collecting from the very first beep of the season at round one. The pressure of their presence sits on riders’ shoulders all year. The ticking clock may stop after each run but the abacus never stops, it only pauses between races to coil the riders springs even tighter. Until eventually the chips are counted at the final round.

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Greg Minnaar knows they don’t accumulate themselves, “It’s hard, the sport’s really tough, to keep coming back, stay uninjured and to be consistent.” The last two seasons his count has been short and left him in second, missing the series by an expansive 465 points in 2011, he’s closed that down to only 98 points at the end of 2012’s seven events.

84 points behind Greg in 2011, Gee Atherton has closed in too. 2012 saw his count stop just 39 shy of second place in the series, “You have to review what you've done. The years you don't win are the ones you learn the most from. I've learnt a lot this year and I'll be putting that into place for next season.”

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Riders travel from one side of the planet to the other, surroundings change from nation to nation but the battle for every single point remains constant and the frustration of them slipping through a riders fingers is evident, “I need to sort something out,” says Greg, “I don’t think there’s much I can change. I think what I’m doing works, I need to just figure out those race runs a little more, I didn’t really challenge Gwinny as much as I’d like.”

And that’s the man who’s had his race runs sorted out, Aaron Gwin. Well mostly – there’s always imperfections in a masterpiece. There have been lows as well as the highs in Aaron’s last two seasons and he’s aware all the other riders will pounce at any chance. Even when he knows he’s done a lot, he’s never quite sure if it’s enough right down to the event when the series is clinched, “All weekend the pressure of the overall was playing on my mind. As usual Greg kept it close, as he always does, rider after rider came down and I kinda didn’t want to watch. For me the overall is the number one goal. It worked out all right, so I was stoked.”

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Aided by the fact the riders never duel it out to each others faces, there are connections through common sponsors and friendships off the track. It is more the terrain that is overcome. Despite that, the fight will only ever become more intense. The margins are minimal and the challengers strong. That’s what will entice those that won to dig deeper and those that lost out to search for that perfection. When looked at in hindsight, a perfect season is so completely unattainable. The challenge stays true to the terrain, uneven, ever-changing and exhilarating. Every rider’s campaign will contain imperfections, it’s just a matter of how they minimise them and how few they can get away with.

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172 Comments

  • + 134
 Gee needs a win, it's been too long!
  • - 13
flag WAKIdesigns (Nov 9, 2012 at 3:59) (Below Threshold)
 When Gee wins, it's G-Win... that's the reason
  • - 143
flag Protour (Nov 9, 2012 at 4:46) (Below Threshold)
 Yes, it has been literally years since any Brits have won a World Cup race, years...the British fans are gonna shit their knickers soon since Bradley Wiggins big wins last year don't mean anything since he was probably doping. It's surprising cause the Brits usually qualify the most riders. They usually do well in qualifying then Gwin gets in their head and they crash out in the final race run. Look at how many crashes Gee and Mark B had last year. Maybe the Brannigan kid can change the Brits poor performances and bad luck, but my money is on Steve Smith for 2013.
  • + 19
 Protour it seems that you are one of the seekers of mystic patterns in the world that surrounds us... a sixth sense developed particularly among people who do lots of sports betting. Drop it... assumption is the mother of all fk ups!
  • - 65
flag Protour (Nov 9, 2012 at 5:30) (Below Threshold)
 I do seek the mystical patterns of the planet and feel I have a spiritual connection with the planet. About 2 years ago I had an epiphany moment with the sun which directly coincides with the rise of Aaron Gwin's dominance. Now I feel the cold air of the fall and feel a new leaf turning over; a maple leaf that represents the rise of a young canadian man who has been training on his road bike all winter. When I think of a Canadian chainsaw massacre on the maple tree to produce my organic maple syrup for my morning pancakes, I envision a strong Canadian with an intimidating mustache standing on top of the podium, and a humbled Christian believer standing one step below him. Namaste.
  • - 11
flag WAKIdesigns (Nov 9, 2012 at 5:54) (Below Threshold)
 I think I discovered Gee-spot - it's no further than the third step of the podium... Sorry if your read it man, nothing personal, just a joke
  • + 10
 mnorris122, i think WAKLdesigns quote 'assumption is the mother of all f**k up' applies to what you said about road cycling

unless i am the 0.01%
  • - 2
 no @paulwootton77, all he wrote was one big bag of assumptions of a kind that you hear from tele-future tellers, or if you like: bookie addicted football-experts
  • + 14
 PROTOUR would you kindly get to fuck
  • + 39
 PROTOUR - since when have Canadians really had a presence in the world stage? One win for Smith (which is awesome) isn't really equal to the long term presence that the brits have had. Wind your neck back in and give the brits the respect they deserve for being one of the strongest all round cycling nations at the moment.
  • - 21
flag fiercepierce (Nov 9, 2012 at 11:03) (Below Threshold)
 How was Bradley Wiggins NOT doping?
  • + 3
 if you knew anything about road biking you'd know people who were doping e.g.lance armstrong did the tour de france in times people who were not doping e.g. bradley wiggins could only dream of so wind yourr neck in
  • + 8
 if you disqualified every person from the tour de france that has ever been linked with doping , the 26th place rider would have won. theyre the biggest bunch of scumbag cheats on the planet
  • + 11
 No, the biggest bunch of sport scbag cheats are footnall players
  • - 1
 davemt56- its very unlikley that drugs are still used in the tour de france-refering to my other comment times for the tour de france have massivley reduced over the last ten years. REASON drugs in the tour de france have vertually stopped in it unfortunally that meens its much less exciting now
  • + 12
 Shut up protour
  • + 21
 Bradley Wiggins doping? Seriously? Do your homework you tw*t! He's probably the first cyclist to win the Tour in a long time that has NO history of doping. Look at the statistics, Lance Armstrong's average speed on the tour 41.65km/h on inferior technology with less training science applied than is today. Bradley Wiggins average speed, 39.83km/h, better technology, more development in sports science and training methods. Yes (road) cycling has a very dirty past that is hard to shake, but there is simply no way you can accuse Wiggins of doping without seriously deluding yourself.

He then went on to win Olympic gold in possibly the most stringently tested event of all time. A place where it is almost impossible to cheat (Unless of course you are a genetically engineered Chinese swimmer! But Bradley Wiggins didn't go and set a time faster than s speed boat at the age of 16 so he's pretty safe on that count).

Lance Armstrong doped better than everyone else, that is why there is such a problem with him. Bradley Wiggins trained harder, deployed better tactics, devoted a serious chunk of his adult life to winning possibly the hardest sporting event on earth. That is why he is a national hero. FACT
  • + 8
 F*ck off protour Bradley Wiggins would never dope its called hard work and dedication... didn't think you had ever heard of it!
  • + 7
 Firstly, Protour is an idiot.
Secondly Team Sky was founded on the promise of no drugs or doping, and to win with integrity. They have kept their promise.
Finally it's no use comparing Tour times from different eras, because they use different routes, and there was that whole doping thing you might have heard of... All that matters is the fastest man on the day(s) won
  • + 13
 God, even Protour's references are wrong. Brannigan is from New Zealand. He's a Kiwi, not a Brit.
  • + 3
 This is all good stuff. Mental note to review one year no, two years from now.
  • + 1
 Thank you hypermoto, you saved me from having to point that out. I guess geography isn't his strong suit - or else he thinks that all us colonials still belong to the motherland.
  • - 11
flag phatsmoker (Nov 9, 2012 at 23:50) (Below Threshold)
 fuck that Gee shit, its all about Gwin
  • + 5
 Protour, once again you've managed to ostrisize yourself from the bunch. Classic. Oh, and that Brannigan kid, not a Brit, he's a kiwi you fool...
  • + 6
 Lol PROTOUR talking total SHIT again
  • + 10
 Protour = dog wanker.
  • + 1
 protour just sounding absolutely ridiculous. lol shut up idiot
  • + 2
 you know, one day, it will turn out that protour doesn't actually think any of these things and is entirely un opinionated, and that he has been trolling pinkbike successfully for many years.
  • + 1
 I think a lot more than 99% of DH fans are also road racing fans.

The doping thing is a load of crap anyway.

What is doping? Taking something that is on a list of banned substances. Who writes the list? Who gets to decide what is on it and what is not?

Why is something which occurs naturally in the body, such as testosterone, human growth hormone or cortisone, banned; and non-naturally occurring things such as caffeine (which is clearly a performance enhancing drug) not banned? Why is training allowed? Why is living at altitude allowed? Why are disc wheels allowed? There are hundreds of things that enhance performance that all athletes do which are normal. Just because they are not on a list for whatever reason, no one's getting on their moral high horse about it. And all the journalists who think they wouldn't have done that to win, suck my c0ck. Grow some balls and don't write sanctimonious shit about a professionals who are doing what it takes to finish a race. A race that's going to put food in their kids' mouths, clothes on their back and a roof over their heads.

And how the fook can taking your own blood out of your body and putting it back in again be doping? It's your blood!

Level the playing field. Stop drug testing. You're never going to stop people doing it so get it out of the media. It is hurting our sport.
  • + 2
 Sporting competition is founded on fair play. The winners are and should be the most talented and hardest working, not the ones with the best doctor. If people do it and get away with it then they have to live with it

As for why is injecting your own blood wrong? Well Lance Armstrong and his crew (some of whom he bullied into it, which for me is the worst part) were taking enhancing drugs before races then immediately after having full blood transfusions to wash them away. The only way you could catch them would be to stop the race and test everyone.
Level the playing field indeed...
  • - 7
flag Protour (Nov 10, 2012 at 22:26) (Below Threshold)
 There has to be testing or the sport has no credibility and is not legit and probably wouldn't get many sponsors. I never said Wiggins doped I said he probably did, theres a big difference. Based on the history of pro cycling he probably did cause you don't win the tour unless you do. Plus his team had people that were affiliated with doping in the past, and his whole team looked suspiciously strong, like the Postal days I thought Brannigan was a Brit wtf That's even worse for the brits now they got nobody comin up fast just a bunch of average joes. Who do they got besides Hart, and now his shoulder could be seriously compromised...I used to be a fan.
  • + 9
 "average joes"
Danny Hart, Gee Atherton, Josh Bryceland, Marc Beaumont, Matt Simmonds, Jo Smith, Sam Dale, Steve Peat, Brendan Fairclough Rachel Atherton, Manon Carpenter, Tracy Moseley

are you as fast as all of these BRITISH professionals? if so, continue with your poorly structured rant.
if not,
shut the f*ck up
  • + 0
 dom69, you are factually incorrect about tour de lance.

Check out the usada website to get the established "facts". Blood transfusions of over 500ml are not mentioned.

I have read every single one of the affidavits on that site and I did so with great interest. For me, the only thing that I hate is that lance got away with it for som long because he was rich and well connected. The poor people got caught, he got away with it.

Cheating is rife in life. People will do things to get an advantage. My point is, if you fall foul of the doping list you are branded a cheat, but the list in itself is a bit of a joke. There are a lot of things not on it that should be if you really want a fair competition. As for getting the best doctor, get real. Why is having a doctor cheating, but having the best team director, masseuse, trainer, coach, nutritionist, manager, bike, shoes, weather conditions on your run; all aceptable to you? There are so many variables. The fairest way is to just let them get on with it like they do in pretty much every other sport.

As for attracting sponsors, there would be no problem if the doping was hushed up like in the NFL and NBA. A good proportions of those guys are on banned substances but no one's talking about it so it's not a problem for the sponsors.

I too believe in fair play, and the only way to make it fair is by stopping the drug testing. Dopers will always be one step ahead and as such are impossible to stop.
  • + 1
 That rant of yours under Gein, Atherton, Minnast vid was the best and smartest thing I' ever read on dope and I agree with you 100%. All of that is a big pile of bullshit, even if we talk cyclists' health. Those guys train 6- 7h a day they get all sorts of irreeversible disfunctions - sport at even half of level of TDF or Champions League has nothing to do with health. Let the sportsmen decide how far they want to take it. No sponsors due to unclean image? How avout pharmaceutical companies? And most people dont get it at all, the issue of dope is served by media as if Armstrong took some sumplements and then sat on couch watching Seinfeld drinking gatorde, while others trained hard in sweat, pain and tears. Those guys work their asses out probably more than others and dope only gives them edge.

A race on who has the best doctor? Isnt it a race on who has the best coach, manager, masseuse, nutrition specialist?why not add a(nother) doctor to the bunch? Should testing in wind tunnels be forbidden? It's as stupid as regulations with dropped bars in CX, or the one when they wanted to ban bunnyhopping. Wanna take that chemical shit? Be my guest!
  • + 1
 Don't forget that while there are a lot of people telling tales on lance, there isn't actually any evidence to convict him in a court of law. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I absolutely believe he did, but until he admits it there is nothing further that can happen to him legally speaking. At the end of the day he was the best cheat in a sport of cheats. He still cycled round France 7 times faster than anyone else. It's just a bike race... who cares if they're doping or not? It's not hurting anyone if it's out of the public eye. I will teach my son when he's old enough that cheating is wrong, but one day you have to make a decision for yourself as to whether it's worth it or not. In Lance's case, it was absolutely worth it. Reputation or not, who cares? He's f*cking loaded! I'd happily swap my reputation as a fair competitor for $200 million American dollars. Anyone who says they wouldn't is either lying or mistaken.
  • + 0
 Hey WAKI.

The thing I keep saying and most people don't seem to understand is that everyone IS taking "THAT CHEMICAL SHIT" but it's a chemical that's not on a banned substance list, so they don't get branded a cheat! The list is a joke! And why are only chemicals banned, surely training systems, equipment, and diet are also cheating?
  • + 0
 DH racing with no chain would be a great leveller, I think.
  • + 1
 People that don't value money as highly as others, such as myself, would stick to their principles and come 2nd with honor rather than win with disgrace.

If some drugs aren't on the list and the list is arbitrary so what? Rules are rules. Are some people allowed to have the finish line 200 metres closer than others? No! The distance may be arbitrary but it's the same for everyone
  • - 6
flag Protour (Nov 11, 2012 at 8:39) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah, I said average Joes, Hart is injured and has only won one big race in his life anyways, Gee is past his prime, we already discussed that, Peaty is great but just out their to break longevity records and put them forever out of reach. Beaumont hasn't won in years, Bryceland I like, but he always slips his pedals and never won anything, Sam Dale, Joe Smith....yes average. They don't have any young guys with big potential, what happened to the excitement we all felt after Hart won world's? It's completely dissipated.
  • + 4
 who are you, to call these racers "average"? when i see your name on the top of the UCI 2013 DH world cup points list, then you can call them average.
the amount of training, hard work, and as others have said, blood sweat and tears that goes into making these riders even slightly well known, to even give them a chance of being on the podium, is immense. Just because certain riders haven't been first all the time doesn't mean that they are in any way "past their prime"
do you know how many times gee and hart have been on the podium this season?
you are so unbelievably arrogant
  • + 1
 Sam Dale and Joe Smith are average riders in the world cup. Not average among all MTBers, but in that company, distinctly average.
  • + 1
 Dom69foco - you're either lying or mistaken. If someone offered you 200 million American dollars to take a pill three times a month and have three injections a month for ten years, you'd do it. Honor (sic) or no honour, that money could change the lives of you and everyone around you in a positive and permanent way. You'd be a fool to pass it up for the sake of a principle, and that's why you wouldn't pass it up given the chance.
  • + 1
 When you put it like that then yes I would, but that's not the situation. You haven't mentioned the competitive element. If what you offered me was the prize money difference between, say, 1st and 8th place in the Tour de France, at the cost of knowing I'm a fraud and a cheat, then I would decline. Some people don't value money as highly as others. Please don't assume I am the same as you
  • + 1
 In my opinion, a cheat who took banned substances, and someone who also took a lot of unnatural substances and performed unnatural training practices to improve their chances of success (within the rules) are no different.

The word "cheat" is used too easily by the media. The social ramifications of being branded as one are immense, and yet the difference between being one and not being one is tiny. Indeed, it changes from one year to the next as the list of banned substances and practices changes. If it is acceptable within the rules one year, the media and the sheeple find it acceptable also. If the rules change, suddenly that athlete is a cheat and deserves to be banned. Even if they didn't do anything differently from one year to the next.

I don't agree with the way the "cheat" name is attributed to athletes. Usually it is done by holier than thou journalists who also lie and cheat in any way they can to get a story. They are no different to the athletes they are bagging out - trying to maximise their earnings by doing their jobs aggressively. Look at the News of the World scandal - tell me those journalists were honest and honourable. Hacking into phones to get a scoop about someone's terminally ill child is the lowest of the low, and yet the ringleader is untouchable because he has too much dirt on the politicians. Six months later, everyone's forgotten about it and Murdoch's still got 38 newspapers and money coming out of his every orifice. Lance must be ruing his decision to be a sportsman, not a journalist.
  • + 1
 If you honestly believe what you are saying, I won't try to change your mind. Maybe you're already comfortably well off or don't have a family or a mortgage. I don't know. I'm sure most of the young guys who got sucked into the EPO culture of cycling would have said the same thing until it happened. Tyler Hamilton said something like "Imagine you put twenty years into achieving a goal, and when you get there you can choose to take a pill and realise your dream, or pack up and go home empty handed." I know what I and 99% of the other people in the world, including all the journalists who are dirtying our sport, would do. If you're one of the 1% who wouldn't, more fool you. Your kids won't thank you for having a principle when they're sharing a bedroom and going on summer holidays to their grandparents' house instead of living in the lap of luxury and popping bottles with models.
  • + 1
 Jaame has a point. I bodybuilt for six years, won a national level competition, and then moved up a class. I did really well the first year, and then the secnd year I got my butt kicked by girls everyone knew was on the juice. There was a list of what they tested for and what they didn't in any particular year. The trick was to make sure you were taking something they weren't testing for. Easy as pie. And I had a judge admit to me that as a natural, it wasn't fair that I had to stand on stage next to that, but that was the way it worked - and that was the point at which I walked away. Play the game, or not. I'd also like to say that if you want to pump yourself full of that stuff to the point where your organs dissolve, then go ahead. I'd really like to see what a human could achieve under those conditions. But ask yourself whether you'd want your kids to grow up having to make that choice ... and that's why we have a doping program.
  • + 31
 It's gonna be a tighter season next year than Rob Warners scrotum in Hafjell!
  • + 20
 am sure gee will be out to prove he is better the greg and aaron next session
  • + 2
 define better.
  • + 15
 If you measure by wins and losses, my money is on you choking on those words renno.
  • - 44
flag Protour (Nov 9, 2012 at 5:01) (Below Threshold)
 Gee and Minnar are both past their prime, they are about as likely to get another World Cup win as Sam Hill, look for Smith and some of the other young challengers to be the main challenge for Gwin next year. I think Gwin might have lost some confidence after Shimano screwed him over at World's with the bad brakes. What an embarrassment for Shimano, they might have derailed the career of their fastest racer. We still don't know the reason.
  • + 23
 hahahah protour, what are you talking about. "minnaar is about as likely to get another world cup win as sam hill."

So true man! Especially since he won one of the only WC's this season that Gwin didn't AND is world champion!

Get your head out of your ass!
  • + 15
 Gee is past his prime? what are you on about? haha
  • + 7
 Gee whizz
  • - 2
 Maybe if he went back to Commencal...just saying.
  • + 12
 i like how this Protour guy thinks he knows everything but he comes off as a brainless arogant prick with who has his head so far up his own ass its past the point ANYBODY agrees with his CRAPPY coments

Smile feels good to say whats on your mindSmile
  • + 3
 Ohh well, I thought the guy was gone but it seems that now on a different drug. Too bad he hasnt taken another sport so we dont have to read all his troubled mind comments. Patience, maybe if instead of neg props we just ignore him might work better. Poor LOSER
  • + 3
 Protour, get your head out of your ass. Maybe it's your head that's past its prime. Minaar is world champ, and there's a lad by the name of Steve Peat (maybe you've heard about him?) who may have something to say about those ages. Peaty won his last World Cup overall at age 32 and 3 rounds at age 35, as well as his only World Champs. Greg has been at either Gee or Aaron's heels the past 3 seasons. All in all, I retort to my original point: get your past-its-prime head out of your ass.
  • + 3
 Shut up protour
  • - 3
 protour, when aaron stops racing or is out for an injury, THEN gwin might win but for now its all gwin
  • + 2
 i mean then gee might win
  • + 5
 haha ya you really fucked that comment there bruce
  • + 1
 @Monsterenergymatty that is one of the best puns I've ever seen on here. 'Gee Whizz'. HAHAHAHA.
  • - 2
 Protour raises excellent points and as usual the kids aren't listening.

It is true that Greg and Gee are past their prime. Compare Gee's results to three years ago and try to argue that one.

Minnaar won the worlds, and a home race that was made for him. Second overall isn't bad but he's riding with his head. Experience is worth a lot of points and points win prizes. There are quite a few guys who are faster than him now tough.

The young guys are fast but inconsistent.

Anyone else find it ironic that they used a great shot of Gwin and Monkey looking at those silver proto brakes on Gwin's bike?

Did anyone ever get to the bottom of Gwingate? What really happened at the world champs to Gwin? How many races has he gone without a win now? 3 or 4? Gee killed it three years ago and hasn't won since. I predict the same to happen to Gwin next year, with Hart or Smith stepping up to fill the void. And look out for Bruni too... he's not shit. Number one at Lapierre next year I bet.
  • - 1
 @jaame - I agree with you about Gee, but I have to disagree about Greg. Second overall isn't bad? Greg came second to Gwin at almost every WC for the past two seasons, and when it's second to Gwin, it might as well be first. And if you look at the tiny margin that Gwin took the overall by, it shows that Greg is as consistent and fast as he's ever been, ie, still at his prime. Furthermore, if there are "quite a few guys who are faster than he is now" (Stevie and Brook, i'm guessing is who you're referencing) they may be faster than he is on a given day, but the fact that they aren't biting at Gwin's heels at EVERY RACE like Greg is shows that they just simply aren't at his overall level yet...

my $.02
  • + 1
 gees not past his prime you dumbass theres just people who are better than him at the moment theres a difference! gees faster than he was and so's greg, neither of them are past there prime and if they are how shit its the rest of the mountian biking world because GEE GREG and gwin make up the top three mountian bikers IN THE WORLD
  • + 1
 Thanks for the INSIGHT, clever clogs!

Gee's not past his prime? 2008 - world champ. 2010 - world cup overall. 2011 - nothing. Not even national champion. 2012 - national champion. No top level race wins for 2 1/2 years. 7 top level wins before that. Try again smarty pants.

Greg - still there but I can't help feeling he is there because he's so experienced and a lot of younger guys are tripping themselves up. McDonald and Smith have race wins this year, Hart last year, all three better bike handlers that Minnaar, but all inconsistent. Hill is a better bike handler than Minnaar, so is Brosnan, so is Blenkinsop. The reason Minnaar looks so good is because he's strong, fit and smart about racing and training. He's a man racing against boys. Sport is 90% mental and that's why he is still doing it. On their day, those guys I named would take Minnaar to church. On his day, he'll beat them, but he won't wipe the floor with them (except at PMB which is basically made for him to win on - I regard it as cheating to be honest given that everyone hates that track and they keep haing it). He is an expert tactician, fast in the right places, good at pinning the bits that suit him. I'm not saying he's sit because he isn't, but I think he's past his prime. He's taking a lot of points through consistency, not outright speed. His tactic is basically ride at 90% on the tech bits and 100% on the easy bits and wait for the young guns to crash, or blow up because they don't know how to train, which they usually do. Look at val D'Isere - none of the young guns crashed, there was no pedaling, and he finished 6th. I rest may case.
  • + 1
 Gee has been injuried for the better part of this year, something neither Gwinn nor Greg were. By the time Gwinn had the hand thing he had the overall wrapped pretty much. And yet Gee kept up with them, podium at every single race (only guy to do so this year) and 0.5 off Greg at Worlds. It's the same that happened with Rachel, and once she's gotten back healthy he's dominated like not even Gwinn has. She missed the Worlds win because of back problems, yet she was back to her spot in Norway. Give Gee a healthy year and he'll shut your wiseass mouths.
  • + 1
 Don't get me wrong Jose, I think Gee is totally cool and he is my favourite WC regular. I even called my son George this year, not after him, but if I didn't like him I wouldn't have done that. For instance if I liked the name Aaron, I wouldn't have called my son it because I'm not a fan of Gwin. The results speak for themselves. I'm always shouting at the computer on Gee's run, willing him to victory, but I just don't think he's got another one in him to be honest. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think I will be.
  • + 1
 jaame thanks for the insights-DUMBASS just cus he hasnt won anything this year doesnt meen hees past his prime so what if there 2 guys out there quicker than him all year he wasnt outside of the top 4
  • + 1
 The original comment was "past his prime". His prime was regularly winning world cup races, winning a world championship and a world cup championship in the space of 2 years. In the 2 and a half years since then, he hasn't won any top level races. Therefore, it is accurate to state that he is pst his prime.
  • + 1
 We're splitting hairs, I admit he's still there or thereabouts. I too hope he can find that fraction of a second he needs to get back to the top.
  • + 1
 i dont see how atleast 4th in the entire world is there an thereabouts but fair enough even if he doesnt hees stil the coolest guy in the world cup at the moment
  • + 1
 You win futureworldchamp1. You're right. He is still in his prime, just had an unlucky break in his last 19 races.
  • + 14
 love how this is filmed at hafjell for a shimano advert but stevie smith won there and hes on sram / avid etc. haha !!
  • + 1
 Marketing... don't you just love it?
  • + 14
 that Greg's bunny hop is gnarly!!! very nice simple movie!
  • + 8
 we do not forget DANNY HART, we wish him a speedy recovery so that he returns to competition
  • + 5
 Hi dude, I spoke to Danny last week at a dirt bike show in the uk and he said his shoulder feels great!
Peace :-)
  • + 1
 thank you so much bro, its a very good news to start the day. so we expect an official date for the return. thanx
  • + 8
 Didn't gwins saint brakes fail on his race run?
  • + 1
 YES!
  • + 3
 i blame that on gwin. he chose to ride prototype brakes so not really anything shimano could do apart from tell him to use the production versions
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 That is an assumption. We never got to the bottom of what really happened, since no statements were officially released.
  • + 1
 Thanks for that Jose, I haven't seen that before.

So we're back at square 1. How can both brakes simultaneously fail? Sabotage must be the number one suspect on everyone's list. Two brakes do not simultaneously fail for no apparent reason.
  • + 8
 I like this protuor guy.
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flag kurmo (Nov 9, 2012 at 6:54) (Below Threshold)
 Protour
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flag ercover (Nov 9, 2012 at 6:55) (Below Threshold)
 Who doesn't?
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 me, i hate his ass
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 yeah i hate him too
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 I've always considered his comments at the opposite end of the scale to deeeights comments. Just saying, not hating.
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 i dont even thibk he means what he says... he probably just does it to be the center of attention
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 how is he not banned yet?
  • + 3
 Haters Gotta Hate! But in theory he is sticking against other countries, or in this case mostly just against the Brits.. so therefore, as a Brit.. he is in fact a co*k
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 He is a total DICK,every post he puts up is total SHIT LOL
  • + 3
 After watching Stevie spank at Crankworx, and seeing that look in his eye's ever since, I'm pretty confident there is a new serious contender for next year. After the run at the bottom of the hill, he's the coolest bloke in the world, but at the top he's the most intense I've ever seen. And Gee still has he fight in him! He'll win some more. I'm looking forward to it.
  • + 1
 Gwin wins cuz of his location people. He can ride DH all season in Hesperia Califorina. Not to mention his moto and bmx is a good cross tranning. If u can race moto somewhat good then DH comes a bit easier. Unless ur like me that was raised on bicycles. I suck on moto lol.
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 this guys are the top three but dont count sam hill out. he will take it next season.
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 And that`s been said a few times in recent years......But he hasnt for a number of reasons......
  • + 7
 it Steve Smith's time!
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 +1 as much as I'm a Gwinny fan I think Steve Smith is a beast and will be the man this year
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 @deathchr yea its been said a couple of times, but just look at his results this year top 5 overall. he is healthy and strong and with the bran new carbon demo, sam HILL will be the king of the HILL
  • + 1
 pulls up chair> let the show commence
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 Got up raring to ride, saw it was raining, turned the computer on. An hour later, I'm totally monged and don't want to ride now. Get off the computer and RIDE!
  • + 2
 Solid video. Great editing techniques, especially with fade from Gee to Greg to Aaron at the end. It looked like 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Dialed.
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 Thanks to "Saint" Brakes Gwin crashed and than didnt win his next few races...... Thanks "Saint"
  • + 3
 Like the X-Men - These are the G-Men! (and you could put Cedric in there too!)
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 Sam Hill at the end on the podium,,, perfection in the art of the gnar. He kills it completley. Although to me, they should have shown on this video the crusher who has perfection, Steve Smith.. now that is the style of perfection.. He is def one of my fav's. Steve Peat, Sam Hill , Gee Atherton are my all time fav's ecspecially Gee. Guy just shreds anything and everything.. All around great rider. Steve peat, well he just is and always will be the man,, nuff said on that. Now for the Kid Kill, Danny Hart..that guy has more heart than any other rider out there. Sick, sick, sick ia all I have to say about him. Now for the cat's that really have the gnar, rounding out my top 5 have to sa Mat Hunter,, flow master. Others include, The Claw, Kyle Straight, Robbie -B, and from watching videos and YouTube shit, Thomas Vanerham. have a great day and go ride your bikes hard and fast.. Just Sayin...These are thoughts on my mind when I get into the mode of thinking, I have to express sometimes, yeah I should keep my opinions and my thoughts to myself but really I don't care if I do..
  • + 2
 You're a cool guy, man. I think Brendog's the shiznit myself. And that ugly girl with the long hair Will White.
  • + 2
 Will White impressed me so much at Rampage. Without a doubt if he would be living in a place where he could train much more often he could really be a serious US contender. Will is definitely a natural. I would like to see a lot more of his talent.
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 He's totally cool, a total natural. Totally shit hair but that's what makes him so cool to support! At least it's shit in a funny way, unlike loads of the guys like Semenuk who have just plain shit hair.
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 wtf since when did that have anything to do with anything?
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 I know it's odd. I can't bring myself to support someone if I think they look like they'd be losers in the real world. I mean, I don't think someone is cool just because they are good on a bike. I live in the real world and I'm impressed by bike riding talent and skill, but I'm also not blinded by it. Too many people in this sport just don't look cool to me. I mean, since when has having long, styleless, greasy hair been cool? I said Semenuk because he's always in the spotlight, but he isn't the only one, there are a few others in the FR set. Sort your hair out boys! The DH boys generally don't have that "I've just spent nine months in India with no trips to the barber" look about them.

Will White, on the other hand. Well, at least he washes, conditions and blow dries his rapunzel-esque locks ha ha!
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 haha yeah i guess so........ random
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 The Athertons just got Danny Hart's trainer, so lets hope for a better season next year
  • + 1
 Is he going to train Gee how to go from 85kg to 65kg and become a weakling? Good move!
  • + 2
 Smith amongst 2 or 3 new guard to watch out for next year but now way G or Minnaar could be described as past it!
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 I really hope that next year Minnaar will win the World Cup, that would be great! Big Grin
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 When i think Saint & Gwin, I think his brakes failed at the world cham race
  • + 1
 Anyone else think those GT's are f'in ugly compared to the trek and SC?

Props to the riders though, unbelievable talent and determination.
  • + 1
 i dont think it really matters weather there running shimano or sram ther all amazing athletes who dominate regardless sweet little promo vid tho
  • + 2
 Shut up Protour. Haha glad to see your back. But still shut up. Your an ass
  • + 1
 You're means you are. Your means your.
  • + 1
 You're all waiing for Protour comments so you can argue with someone with hopes to win 'cause there's no way your wifes/girlfriends will give ypu that chance!!
  • + 2
 Nice coverage of the challenges to be the best
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 Such top blokes and dedicated athletes, inspiring. And slow motion is just fucking awesome!
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 If gee, gwin or minnar rides SRAM... The palces will be the same Wink
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 One more thing.. Gwin misses this final run at W.Championships because their brakes.. Shimano Brakes..
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 In the words of my Italian friend: sei un vero e proprio deficente...
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 Yes, the one and only time Gwin had a mechanical it was because of his brakes. But let's be real. Take a poll of what company has more complaints over the years involving their brakes. I'd out my money on Avid being worse
  • + 0
 @WAKI lol but spelt: "deficiente"
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 I thought Deficiente is imperfect, Deficente is "someone missing something" and it doesn't specify what is it, it can mean so many things, alone or at the same time, that's why I love it. I also love their another subtle invenctive: difettivo
  • + 0
 Interesting that it means the same as "difettoso". I'm not sure of how the grammar works though.

deficiente /defiˈtʃɛnte/

1. (carente) una dieta ~ di ferro a diet deficient in iron
2. med. retarded

My fav is "ritardato".
  • + 0
 Mah whatever - that country is so messed up with language, so if my friend is from Milano, then you not necessarily need to go to Napoli to hear a completely different meaning. Just go to Bergamo 0,5h from Milano to throw a couple of years of learning the language into the toilet.

I need to learn to swear in French, grow a mustache - smoke a Galouise and say: Amérique - quelle merde!
  • + 1
 buahahahaha, I cried laughing when got the idea of listening both at the same time. Yea that was a memorable thing from Matrix Smile

I thought more of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc78yPv_ztM
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 Não me parece que ainda tenha idade para responder a provocações ditas, ''infantis'' Smile Para gente séria, e com uma opinião séria: Shimano is a big company like sram.. But what i mean is, the company that supports Gee, Minnaar or gwin has nothing to do with the results.
  • + 2
 We've had this debate before. The company with the most money pays the fastest guys. SRAM, Shimano and Fox are all good. (But Rockshox are better than Fox).
  • + 1
 song :
Got No Time" by Fractal
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 where can i find this song??
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 go outside and look for it
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 I cant find it anywhere either!
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 We haven't released the song yet but will very soon. I'll let you know!
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 Can I win this Jersey too?
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 Can someone tell me the name of the song.
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 this is why shimano is better than sram.
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 They should put more marketing into Zee I reckon. The only real difference between the Zee brakes and Saint is the reach adjustment screw. I want to see a Zee video.
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 I forgot I was watching a video for sram :-p Great video!
  • + 1
 One more thing, it;s Dale's nite,, Best beer in a can.
  • + 0
 Richard Cunningham* not WhateverTF you wrote Anthill.
"Words by Richard Cunynghame"
  • + 1
 Larryssman7 your just another typical pinkbike user. Don't insult everyone with you ignorance!!
Richard Cunningham and Richard Cunynghame are two different people. And Richard Cunynghame wrote this article.

But I bet you will continue to pollute the world with the "Speak first before you know facts" way of life.
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 sorry. the PB RC told me that afterwards, my mistake, settle down.
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 From where can i download the song?
  • + 1
 The song is Fractal - Got No Time and it will be available for download soon, we'll keep ya posted.
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 name the song pls Smile
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 Wow, pretty awesome !
  • + 1
 needs more slow-mo
  • + 0
 everybody is shreddin it big but me
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 and me.
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 sunday shredd some trails we never done yet at glentress .watch this space .
  • + 0
 I wann't saint hubs!!
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 I have a front one for sale.
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 shimano is, and will always be better than sram.
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 song?
  • + 3
 Got No Time by Fractal which will be available for download soon =)
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