Results: World Championships Timed Training

Aug 31, 2013
by Matt Wragg  
Steve Smith and Rachel Atherton are the fastest in practice. Timed training isn't a race run, so it's hard to tell too much from these, but seeing as Rachel smoked everyone by nearly 17 seconds, we'd say that the writing is on the wall there. It looks like Steve Smith's special Worlds bike is doing the business, at least for now, and Mitch Ropelato posted that second fastest time in the mens training on an Enduro 29...

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115 Comments
  • 45 4
 So, my maths makes that a 2% performance variable over a 4 minute world standard DH track for the top 7, with top pro riders on a variety of bikes from a 26 inch trail bike, a couple of 26 inch DH rigs, a 29er and 650b. I know it's only practice and race day will probably be different, but to me that proves no need to change to any of the new standards yet unless you are a pro. My kudos goes to Graves on a 26 inch trail bike. Just shows how capable they are......!
  • 9 141
flag heavyp FL (Aug 31, 2013 at 2:59) (Below Threshold)
 27.5 faster through the speed trap, 2,3,4th all 26 and Bitch Ropelato 5th. Sorry *Mitch
  • 3 1
 So are they allowed to change bikes between now and race day? Or do they have to keep the bike they start the week on?
  • 36 3
 Sorry @heavyp but Mitch still faster than you on his "all mountain" 29" bike....
  • 14 93
flag heavyp FL (Aug 31, 2013 at 4:04) (Below Threshold)
 @Daddybear most of the chicks are faster than me too but at least there not being a pussies and riding a wheel size that you see retired old men with saggy lycra on hanging around coffee shops in upper class suburbs!
  • 31 4
 sounds like the retired old men are more with the times than you, the retro grouch
  • 5 56
flag jotxirrindulari (Aug 31, 2013 at 4:44) (Below Threshold)
 @heavyp, Ropelato didn't choose to take this bike, Specialized must have decided for him, to my mind he's just a pion in the specialized's marketing plan
  • 18 1
 @fitjoani, ropelato took his custom demo 8 they did for him and the 29er. There is an interview on vitalmtb about it and he said he felt comfortable on The 29er so he's going with it. Brosnan and Gwin were giving him shit about it.
  • 7 2
 @fitjoani, Ropo made the decision himself. He did a run on the 29er and decided that it suited him better on the track than the DH rig. No Specialized puppetry going on there at all.
  • 11 4
 @heavyp u such a prick and i don't see the point off hatin on someone who's usin an other "style" of bike on this kind of track....... lot's of other pilot use prototype with less travel......@heavyp mitch may be faster than you on this track with a bmx wich is 20"
  • 5 2
 Ok, my mistake, I hadn't seen the interview, and I respect his decision, it's not a reason to be insulting to him...
  • 13 1
 Gwin won at Sea otter on a 29, he's just jealous of Mitch's water bottle.
  • 29 6
 This wheel size banter is really getting boring. Comments like heavyp's are completely ignorant. For all of you posting negativity of different wheels: for 1) keep your stupid comments to yourself. For 2) back your comments up with fact. Why not post how many hours you have ridden on each wheel size before you say anything.
  • 7 3
 heavyp is such a douche canoe... Mitch is picking the best bike he feels can win on this particular course. The course is more pedally and less gnarly than a normal WC course. Why would he want a heavier, less efficient bike for a such smooth, less technical course? Props to him for trying to think outside the box and choose what feels best for him.
  • 8 23
flag soups250 (Aug 31, 2013 at 7:37) (Below Threshold)
 Wasn't Mitch 2nd? Obviously you are a semi-retarded moron who can't read!!!! You suck at riding and at life..... Why don't you go watch the '96 world champs vid on your VHS, tune up your carburetor and play your guns n roses cassette tape.....GO HOME LOSER
  • 12 3
 Guns'n'roses are legend.... also STEVIEEE
  • 4 2
 Ladies and Gents of the Board :
what if, Graves was on a 29er and he just beat the crap out of everyone in practice ?
Would that be an unfair advantage ?
Would you as a regulator ban 29ers or big calves ?

Smile Peace, long live human powered machines !
  • 9 5
 I've felt obliged to offer my own personal opinion reading these comments. Each rider has to use the tools legally allowed at his disposal to win the race, therefore props to the lads using the trail bikes and 29ner's. Okay it's only timed practice after all, Smith came in fastest, but the general consensus would be that Ropelato may not even be the 10th quickest rider on the field any given day using like for like rigs, so he (or team) have simply out thought the others.
I understand the attraction of spreading the world cup series throughout the world, but the UCI needs to take a think about what it wants downhilling to be, and in my book, not only is this track a joke but having the most important race of the year here is a complete shambles! No disrespect to Pietermaritzburg, this is what they have presented and has been approved by the organisers, lets hope there is not bribes taking place here, we are aware of certain allegations in the past directed towards UCI officials in the road cycling world. If I was Aussie / Kiwi / South American, I'd be sick to the teeth that with what we are seeing here given the quality of tracks at your disposal. Lets get the facts straight here - give Sir Chris Hoy or any other track cycling professional two weeks on this track and they'd probably toast these downhillers here simply because they have thighs like busses requiring little skill..
It's about time the riders got together (an association of professionals if it does not already exist) gave UCI the finger and demanded a change to the course selection criteria. This should limit the merits of using varied wheels sizes and resign the wheel size debate to the history books.
bear mind, the above is off the cuff thoughts - I don't even know if wheel size is restricted, or whether the definition of a trail bike is allowed to be used come race day....
Either way, I like to see the world champions being spread about, gunning for the chainsaw massacre!!! Get in Stevie!!!!!
  • 14 2
 So much anger, Mitch's a great rider and person, who cares about the bike he chooses, there's obviously no one absolute advantage out there, carbon, alum, or wheel size, so let riding do the talking.....
  • 7 1
 This whole wheel size crying game will be over eventually. Remember Carbon? How everyone here told you that you'd die if you rode a carbon bike? How they couldn't handle the stress of mountain biking, how they were all experts, how the industry was a giant scam, etc....etc....etc...etc....

Every time something new comes out the majority of the community here throws a tantrum and cries about it. Then they realize no one cares what they think and that we're all to busy worrying about our own bikes and actually riding and then they get over it.

Same thing will happen with this. So let them cry and throw their tantrums, it's already dying down and will be even more so soon.
  • 2 2
 @ heavyp....Mitch is probably faster than you on a tricycle..... Give the man some respect.... He is a WC racer!
Something you will NEVER be!
  • 3 1
 heavyp aka the modern day protour
  • 4 2
 I think what @heavyp was getting at touches on this.

If people wanted to be able to gain an edge they would wear a skin suit take there peak off there helmet and cover up the vents! Do you think people used to wear them cause they wanted to look good? No fact was they make you faster but the UCI banned them because they gave the sport of downhill a bad look, isnt riding a bike that is supposedly faster but looks as if it belongs in an XC/Enduro race and not a DH race falling into the same subject ?
  • 36 5
 I'm confused ... did someone on a 29" enduro bike just finish second ?
  • 21 3
 No, the race is tomorrow...
  • 8 2
 You knew what i meant Wink
  • 25 2
 I guess size does matter...
  • 6 1
 yep that's what my misses say's
  • 1 1
 Will be hilarious if some of the top guys on 26" are scrambling to get 29ers if Mitch is up near the top after qualification results, in a last minute bid to be competitive.

Minnar and Peaty putting DH forks on 29 Bronson woulda be a good combo if they had time to get used to it, but their fork sponsors don't make them in 29.
  • 1 0
 The bronson isn't 29 it is 27.5. And I'm pretty sure that Fox makes 27.5 40's but I don't think you could put a 40 on a bronson.
  • 21 0
 How is Rachel 16 seconds ahead?!?!
1st-2nd 16s, 2nd-9th 11s!
  • 9 0
 because she's extremely good?
  • 4 0
 and Ragot DNF? Frown
  • 4 0
 Trying to keep up with gee in training.
  • 2 0
 16 Sec's. That's amazing. It's to the point that she can take a break and then continue and still win.
  • 1 1
 Plus she was only 6th through the speed-trap. Bonkers.

I think it also says a lot about the track when Caroline Buchanan, whilst a phenomenal bike handler, is primarily a BMX and 4X racer, can come and grab 4th. Yes this is only timed training but be interesting to see if that carries through to tomorrow.
  • 2 0
 I'm going to speculate that in order for her to create such a gap, she must be clearing all the tables while the rest of the field is not.
  • 1 0
 @jfyfe that's a good guess actually, the womens field does tend to case the tables (not making fun of chicks, those tables are massssive at fort bill and here)
  • 17 2
 haha Ropelato killing it on wagon wheels! luv it
  • 19 9
 Its official! 27.5" is 0.8% faster then both 29" and 26" wheels,. as clear from the results. Now give us your money.

Sincerely: Your Bike Biz
  • 3 0
 maybe but for now the guy with the enduro 29" is in second place,so....
  • 3 5
 Maybe for this course, but thats about it.
  • 3 0
 maybe not. i m not a fan of defferent wheel sizes but if it fit the track.....
  • 19 8
 Oh bigger wheels are faster? Why not ride a motorcycle that would be faster as well
  • 11 0
 or it could be that a shorter travel enduro bike is faster
  • 9 2
 Its timed training people means nothing, save energy get track dialled, its not even the timed runs that count for seeding HELLO! Nothing can be deduced by these times just look at all the bigger names further down, Hill was supposedly one do the fastest on track, he is legendary for getting his runs dialled in 4 or 5 runs he doesn't need to flog himself, Emmeline I do hope is ok, DNF may not mean anything so hopefully shes just missed practice timing not injured, Im a big Rach fan but also Emmeline so hopefully come Sunday she and Rach can have a battle royal! Stevie Smith is definitely on it, I would love to see him regardless of what bike he's pooping on, be awesome, but want so many riders to do well, ESP Kiwis, Peaty, GM, Rat, Bulldog, Blienky, GeorgeB, Wyn, GM, Hart attack, Hill, Smith! Dam it just give all these guys and girls the title and have a massive big bonfire, Sarfie beer, Boerewors and party like its 1999!
  • 8 2
 As people complain about this not being a "real" DH course, remember that is even more true of Canberra - where Peaty got his only World Champs win, by a few hundredths of a second. I am pretty sure the MtB world doesn't shun Peaty's win because it wasn't on a "real" track. Lots of prototype equipment and one-off experiments there too.
  • 4 0
 Definitely, this is the most exciting race of the year.
  • 6 0
 Pretty interesting results, can't wait to see who takes it ! Big Grin
  • 3 0
 Smith, Mitch, and Hannah in the top 4 along with Gee. All three are running some sort of protoype this week. Not their usual DH rig. They may be pushing a bit more to see where they stand on their particular bike choice.
  • 4 0
 Hannahs been riding that prototype in the world cups also just changed wheels and gearing.
  • 5 3
 As many guys have said after last years race....they do not class this as areal dh track because of the pedalling. Sam hill said it last year and steve smith. Steve Smith rode this track last year and said after it, he could have ridden his trail bike on the track because it was so pedally. Hence why devinci custom designed a bike specificly for this race. Guys are opting for different size wheels etc because it is less technical and more rollable. Proven fact, bigger wheels roll alot better and carry more speed. Good luck steve smith. Im rooting for sam, but either one ill be happy. Shit....i even want Gwin to be on podium aswell.
  • 3 10
flag Schmead (Aug 31, 2013 at 7:52) (Below Threshold)
 Gwin????? Please hand your passport in at reception.
  • 7 1
 No, I love Gwin, hes an awesome rider, humble, a good sportsman and after last years results and this years bad results, he deserves a podium place for just trying and for purely just not bitching about his poor results this year, like alot of riders do.
  • 4 3
 It's interesting that Graves is losing so much more in sector 1 than Mitch Ropelato. 3.1 seconds on the most technical part of the course, both on trail bikes but Graves with a lot more travel up front. It's the only technical sector on the track and the Enduro 29er is way faster than a big travel 26er. To be 6th fastest overall in that sector is amazing on that bike.
  • 3 1
 Pike 160 on th Enduro29 vs a Float 180 on th SB66. 20mm is not "a lot more travel up front". Both are great forks (personally give the edge to the Pike) an Mitch has a hair more travel outback. The size of the wheels and the rider are the biggest differences.
  • 1 0
 That's what I'm saying but Mich is not a top 5 rider normally so if he keeps this up for finals it will prove that the enduro 29 is the bike for this course.
  • 3 0
 this is just timing session... I think a lot of riders does not push their limits and keep their energy for the final race tomorrow...
  • 2 1
 I really will never know why they use this for the DOWN HILL world championships when it really isn't a true DH track if someone on a 29er enduro can come second in timed runs ! I think the world champs track should be s track which you needs full DH for ! Anyone agree with me ?
  • 2 2
 Frankly, each rider has to use the tools he's allowed to use at his disposal to win the race, therefore props to the lads using the trail bikes and 29ner's. Okay it's clear this is only timed practice and Smith came in fastest, but the general concensus would be that Ropelato may not even be the 10th quickest rider on the field on any given day using like for like rigs, so he (or his team) have simply out thought the others.
I understand the attraction of spreading the world cup series throughout the world, but the UCI needs to take a think about what it wants downhilling to be, and in my book, not only is this track a joke but having the most important race of the year here is a complete shambles! No disrespect to Pietermaritzburg, this is what they have presented and has been approved by the organisers, lets hope there is not bribes taking place here, we are aware of certain allegations in the past directed towards UCI officials in the road cycling world. If I was Aussie / Kiwi / South American, I'd be sick to the teeth that with what we are seeing here given the quality of tracks at your disposal. Lets get the facts straight here - give Sir Chris Hoy or any other track cycling professional two weeks on this track and they'd probably toast these downhillers here simply because they have thighs like busses requiring little skill..
It's about time the riders got together (an association of professionals if it does not already exist) gave UCI the finger and demanded a change to the course selection criteria. This should limit the merits of using varied wheels sizes and resign the wheel size debate to the history books.
Either way, I like to see the world champions being spread about, gunning for the chainsaw massacre!!! Get in Stevie!!!!!
  • 2 0
 bear mind, the above is off the cuff thoughts - I don't even know if wheel size is restricted, or whether the definition of a trail bike is allowed to be used come race day....
  • 2 0
 Cumming - come race this course and then give us your off the cuff guff.
  • 6 1
 where is HILL????
  • 8 1
 he drinks monster
  • 3 0
 It was the same in mont sainte anne, guess he's saving himself for the race run. he's in 68th out of 69 so must have just done a cruise run.
  • 3 28
flag heavyp FL (Aug 31, 2013 at 2:53) (Below Threshold)
 27.5 faster through the speed trap, 2,3,4th all 26 and Bitch Ropelato 5th. Sorry *Mitch
  • 1 0
 I was thinking the same, Hill must have had a mechanical or a crash.
  • 4 1
 Hill never does timed training, he always takes it easy or stops on track. He may of had a mechanical today though
  • 6 2
 It's DOWNHILL or ENDURO worlds becouse I'm confused...?
  • 4 0
 Enduro is a like soft downhill and the track is...
  • 4 0
 This is like f1 but they can put any size wing, engine or wheel size.
  • 4 1
 Nope. They have to run stock engines.

No supercharging (epo)!
  • 1 0
 Richie Rude (junior PMB winner) had a winning time that would have out him in 5th on this list!! So that means his time was bangin' or there's alot of time to be made up on Sunday. I'm Stoked to watch the racing!
  • 4 0
 Where's sam and gwin?
  • 2 0
 69Thth
  • 3 0
 Gwin had a flat and Sam Hill looked like he had a mechanical
  • 1 0
 LMFAO !!!!!!! Forget the Athertons....now the 29'ers are taking centre stage ???? I f*ckin' love it !!!! Nice one to the guy, let's see a scrap to the podium !!!!
  • 2 0
 whoooaa ... looks like Rach tooked it seriously!
  • 3 0
 Tracey is prettier.
  • 2 0
 Pumpelato!!!what a race will be tomorrow.. funny race
  • 3 1
 and the Enduro World Champ is...
  • 1 0
 Fun to see 5 guys in the top 8 on smaller travel bike that they used to
  • 3 1
 GO STEVIEEE!!!!
  • 2 1
 Johannes Fischbach for the Win,also wyn masters
  • 2 0
 Fischbach 14th place! Schinken am Bein Wink Good Luck
  • 3 1
 Go Stevie!
  • 1 0
 Rach was putting down the race-pace on practice day.
  • 1 0
 What the Fug is going on with those two?
  • 1 1
 27.5/29 = im fast, faster then you (26")...what i can't hear you back there. Wink
  • 1 0
 Stevie is cheating with his special build!
  • 1 0
 Special Build??? They all have special builds. Stevie is just faster period!
  • 1 0
 they should put rachel racing in the mens category :p
  • 1 0
 FISCHIIIII! Go for it!!!!!
  • 1 0
 No qualifying run ?
  • 1 0
 GO RACHEL!!!!!
  • 1 0
 16 seconds up is insane!
  • 1 2
 big(er) wheels taking the lead...sunday is going to be interesting!
  • 1 1
 YAAAAA Stevie!!
  • 2 5
 Stevies on a whole other level!
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