Video: Saracen Ariel 27.5

Aug 19, 2013
by Saracen Bikes  
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We’ve been working away on our 27.5” platform since early 2012 when component makers confirmed they were developing the hardware we needed to make a killer bike. We knew very early on with our Kili Flyer development that 27.5” was the perfect format for our Ariel. We started with full-alloy mules to tailor the same riding characteristics that our Ariel was known for: fast neutral handling that’s a blast to ride on singletrack and climbing, but when pointed downwards is a superlative experience.

We set the travel at 150mm combining the best of our 140mm and 150mm 26” variants and worked hard to reduce the overall frame weight without sacrificing durability and stiffness. In this process we engineered a Toray carbon rear triangle which gave us just the right balance we were looking for. Overall frame weight is less than the current 140mm frame.


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65 Comments

  • 31 4
 You guys have made one good looking bike.
  • 6 0
 And video.
  • 1 2
 ...and sick spec.
  • 9 0
 He looked a lot faster/smoother/sexier on the carbon bike than the aluminum.
  • 3 0
 It is their way of making you want to buy it. It worked on me.
  • 1 0
 I think he was just riding harder!
  • 10 1
 And the weight as pictured is..?
  • 12 1
 and how 'bout the price too.
  • 5 1
 RRP of £3199
  • 3 0
 That is how a bike sales video is done, again nice job!
  • 11 2
 put any good rider on any bike and it will look great
  • 3 0
 I love seeing ZEE parts on a production bike. It shows the manufacturer really knows what riders want. I have a hard time telling the difference in shifting quality between XTR and Zee. Don't need to spend 800 on a drivetrain to have awesome performance
  • 3 9
flag deeeight Plus (Aug 19, 2013 at 22:05) (Below Threshold)
 Really there's very little perceptible difference in the shifting quality of ANY shimano drivetrain from Acera to XTR or the 2300 road series thru Dura Ace. What you get with the higher groups is better materials and designs which means less weight. I can afford to put the very best on my bikes but for derailleurs say, unless I score an XTR or Dura Ace for a cheap price, I'm perfectly happy running XT or lower on my mountain bikes and I very often just use Ultegra or 105 derailleurs.
  • 4 0
 You're kidding, right, deeeight? Very little perceptible difference between Acera and XTR! When was the last time you used it? There's a huge difference, otherwise why would you say you use XT or Ultegra, if lower end Shimano will do?! The difference in feel is less and less between the higher end groupsets, but generally, the higher you go, the lighter and slicker it gets. Don't believe me? Try a 2300 groupset and then try Dura-Ace.

Saracen full suspension bikes feel super planted, but I can't get out of my mind that it still uses Norglide Bushes on it pivots (except the main pivot), as is spoils its longevity, IMHO. They aren't much to replace, but neither are cartridge bearings. Good bikes, but I can't use the word great just yet.
  • 1 0
 I don't know why everyone gets their panties wet for derailleurs all the time. Shifting performance comes from shifters (duh), that's where I intend to put the money in any future builds: XTR shifters on ZEE derailleurs.

Just before anyone gets the head all up in a twist, I'm not saying that a shit derailleur is great but after you get through Deore, ZEE or SLX the only major differences are weight and longevity, and even then you're splitting hairs.
  • 3 2
 Ah yes, my comment regarding the marketing ploy that is 27.5 was deleted. Good job. I must've said something that one of the marketing folks for pinkbike.....I mean a site mod....must not have liked, especially a question as simple as one regarding the rim diameter of a 650b wheel vs the 27.5 wheel...and its redundancy, imo. But I'll never know, pinkbike just knows I should buy a 27.5 / 650b wheeled mtn. bike because I'll instantly be a better rider with one.
  • 1 0
 this ariel is perfect! having madison own saracen, and madison being the main distributer of shimano in the uk, the bike has been designed around the shimano brakes and drivetrain, along with having some amazing suspension fitted to it as well, not only is it kitted out to what i see to be, almost a perfect stock all mountain 650b bike, but the value for money is amazing! the forks and shock alone are probably worth within in region on £1500 quid alone! then you get a half carbon frame, with amazing geometry and a good strong wheelset and the best drivetrain for the job! Saracen is looking strong this year, especially if the whole range of bikes is up to and matches the amazing standards set by this thing! definable going to be investing in one myself!
  • 1 0
 Aston hill looks great in this video! Mega prop to all the trail builders for all your hard work over the last few years. On a side note, I don't think that a square side on shot of this bike does it justice, from any other angle it looks fantastic.
  • 8 5
 Congratulations ! Another magical 27.5 bike. The World is in great progress.
  • 4 0
 deff a contender for my next all-mtn 27.5
  • 1 0
 You are planning on exporting?
  • 1 0
 if that is the one I choose, yes. And you mean importing, exporting is transferring the goods out of the home country, and my home country is not the UK.
  • 1 0
 Ha! So it is.....where would you IMPORT from? I there a company that ships Saracen/others here?
  • 4 0
 If it stands on its own.... I definitely want it
  • 2 1
 If it can stand on its own I wonder will it stand with me on it?
  • 1 0
 yeti SB-66 might work in the Usa but where we have horrendous mud, the yeti has horrendous mud clearance....and yes before you say it i know you have mud and rain as well....but nothing like we have in the uk.....Smile
  • 2 0
 props to riders who pick the tougher lines like this guy....thats what made this video so sick
  • 3 0
 Yea ASTON HILL for sure
  • 2 0
 That video is how you sell a bike.
  • 1 1
 is it just me? or they went the other way around. alu-front, carb-rear? W T F
  • 1 0
 Plenty of bikes are like that, I know most half and half frames are carbon front, but the Lapierre DH for example was(not sure if it still is) aluminium front carbon rear.
  • 1 0
 What a good video and bike looks sick!
  • 1 1
 oh wow, a bike company that's releasing a 27.5/150mm bike? and a 1x drivetrain? unheard of lol
  • 1 0
 Why does he ride this hard with the seatpost fully extended???
  • 1 0
 Where was he riding at?
  • 3 0
 I think its Aston Hill about an hour north of London, UK

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyLFTQo72E
  • 1 0
 Shot partly around Woburn Sands UK, as well as Aston Hill.
  • 1 0
 2:10 epic scene!
  • 1 0
 Astonhill:-)
  • 1 1
 This is shaping up to be a good year for the mountain bike Smile
  • 1 3
 Is zee even necessary for a 150mm trail bike? I feel like xt would just make more sense, how are you going to climb with a dh cassette?
  • 5 0
 i would say its an 11-36 .. zee isnt dh specific
  • 1 0
 there's a "freeride" Zee with a longer b-link for up to a 36t cassette
  • 1 0
 Aston Hill Bike Park
  • 1 0
 haha ass load
  • 1 0
 How much does it weigh?
  • 3 3
 Looks sharp!
  • 2 3
 ..the photo?
  • 1 1
 "Ass load of fun" haha
  • 2 5
 What's the difference between 275 and 650b?
  • 22 1
 One has a letter in the name.
  • 3 2
 Isn't one an actual measurement measurement of external rim diameter(?) And 27.5 just marketing garbage?
  • 2 1
 Just to let you know, 650b is actually nowhere near 27.5". It's only around a 12mm increase in wheel diameter, I think. 275 and 27.5" is actually a huge mislabelling..
  • 6 0
 650B refers to an WHEEL SIZE STANDARD developed in france around the middle of the 20th century. 650 was the nominal diameter (in mm) of the inflated tire mounted to a rim with a 584mm bead seat diameter. The letter referred to the WIDTH of tire that fit that 584 bead rim to give you the 650mm inflated diameter. There were 650A (590 bead), 650B and 650C (571 bead) and they all had the same basic tire diameter. A was the narrowest and C widest. Same math behind 700A, 700B and 700C. Different rim bead sizes and widths of tires to equal 700mm inflated.

The 27.5 comes from the first modern MTB tires made for 650B, the Pacenti Neo-Moto 2.3s which were nominally 27.5" inflated diameter. There are 650B tire models in many widths now, and they vary in diameters from about 27.2" (for a minimal tread design like the Pacenti QuasiMoto 2.0 and the Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.1) to nearly 28" for some one the 2.4 width models like the Maxxis HighRoller 2 and the Vee Rubber TrailTaker.
  • 1 0
 Yes
  • 1 0
 I was in my LBS the other day, and I measures(from the ground up, no weight on the bike, and tires inflated) an the 2.2 tires on the Giant Talon 27.5 measured 27 3/4"(27.75) about 1 3/8" taller than the 2.2 bontranger XR4(measured 26 3/8") on one of my bikes, and about 1 1/8 larger than the maxxis ardent 2.25(measured 26 5/8")on my other bike. If any of this interests you.
  • 1 3
 Yeti SB-66?
  • 1 4
 Welcome to the age of WaGon Wheels! Please enjoy your tacos!!
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