Scott Gambler Prototype - First Photos

Mar 14, 2012
by Mike Levy  
Scott's signing of Brendan Fairclough, one of the most popular and stylish racers on the circuit, was big news this off season, and while there were many photos of him training aboard a bright yellow Scott Gambler downhill bike it was no secret that Scott was busy developing a new race machine for Brendan and the rest of the Scott 11 team. The rumor mill was going into overdrive with whispers of a new carbon framed bike but, unlike many other companies, Scott was able to keep the new bike under wraps until they released these somewhat purposefully guarded photos to Pinkbike of Fairclough and the team testing in San Remo, Italy. The Scott 11 team will also be on the new machine at this weekend's World Cup race in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, so you can expect more detailed full bike photos to come soon.

Scott Gambler DH bike prototype
The prototype Gambler features an aluminum frame and a linkage activated shock.

While it is hard to round up much information from the above photo, it's easy to see that the bike employs an entirely different suspension layout from the previous design, even if it does share the same 'Gambler' name. The vertically mounted shock is activated by a linkage, that much is clear, and new frame also appears to not be made from carbon fiber. That's not to say that we don't expect to see a carbon framed Gambler at some point in the future but, given the price of frame molds, one can understand that Scott's engineers would want to be confident that the team is 100% satisfied with the design before progressing to carbon.

Scott Gambler DH bike prototype
Fairclough testing the new Gambler in San Remo, Italy.


www.scott-sports.com


96 Comments

  • + 57
 At last they are using thinner tubes, and not iron gurders. Can't wait to see the whole bike
  • + 66
 the least he could do is whip it a little bigger so you could see the frame.
  • + 60
 or just show a picture of the FULL BIKE.
  • - 10
flag sionr644 (Mar 14, 2012 at 11:25) (Below Threshold)
 First thought that cam to my mind was NO! as I think the Gamblers that are on the market are one the nicest DH bikes out there. BUT I can't wait to see a proper pic of the new one!
  • + 5
 all we want a cheap carbon bike that we can actually afford !
  • + 8
 trying to decifer that linkage system from the 1st photo
  • - 1
 just saw the full shot over on vital.......... the bike looks like an abortion. brutal. i can't see this year going well for 'bren-dog'...........
  • + 3
 based on the way the bike looks?
  • + 1
 Just looked on Vital, the head angle looks slack!
  • + 2
 I give up, spent about a hour trying to work out the possible swing of the links and cannot from what i can only see haah
  • + 3
 @robc It tells physics to get f*cked and then just works.
  • + 2
 the vital mtb pictures are sick; the linkage looks like a puzzle!
  • + 2
 At least you can't accidently change your settings, or on purpose for that matter...........
  • + 1
 looks like an evil revolt to me with longer links sort of
  • + 1
 bring back a bit of old school progressive link design... p1.pinkbike.com/photo/1053/pbpic1053996.jpg

I'm a fan of single pivots with progressive links, just funny to see that this design is coming back with so much hype.
  • + 1
 Getting so tech nowadays with the linkages and such, the way such are ment to flex and compress in certain ways, cannot image how they will be in the future :0
  • + 30
 Can't see shit...
  • + 4
 no doubt. don't tease us.
  • + 9
 it's already enough hard to wait for the snow to melt. don't make it harder by teasing us with one third of a bike..
  • + 23
 "...while there were many photos of him training aboard a bright yellow Scott Gambler." It was a Voltage not a Gambler, I believe.
  • + 1
 just what i was thinking
  • - 28
flag Motoracer31 (Mar 14, 2012 at 12:32) (Below Threshold)
 my cousin has a voltage fr and its the worst bike ever built lol jk.
  • + 2
 your gonna get neg propped hardcore cuz haha
  • - 2
 u too diertesanchez433
  • + 4
 why would i? im the cuzin who rides the voltage
  • + 0
 oh i was just joking
  • + 10
 so we know its black.. and the shock is mounted vertically.... whew thanks scott that answers so many things! lol
  • - 46
flag Downhillrider441 (Mar 14, 2012 at 8:20) (Below Threshold)
 carbon?
  • + 17
 It specifically said aluminum lol. It's like you clicked the link and scrolled right down to comment without reading a word.
  • + 4
 We also know it doesn't have that non idiot-proof headtube.
  • - 20
flag Downhillrider441 (Mar 14, 2012 at 10:17) (Below Threshold)
 bet its shit
  • + 3
 Black? Vertically mounted shock? My guess is that it looks like a Trek...


Wink
  • + 2
 haha, what doesn't look like a trek
  • + 2
 check out what i found on vital mtb www.pinkbike.com/photo/7837719
  • + 1
 Thanks for that link!
  • + 5
 Will there ever be a picture of Brendan riding a downhill bike that doesn't look insanely stylish? By far my favourite rider, wish him all the best with the new season, hope he kills it.
  • + 7
 Booyah! I love my current Gambler, and i cant wait to see this new sexy beast!
  • + 2
 That is definitely not the 2012 Gambler. It looks to be 2013 prototype, the top tubes look like those of the Voltage, but, the linkage looks weird, i mean, the small part that can be seen, looks much different from the current scott bikes. Not sure if I am liking that change at least from the limited looks of the linkage in that picture..
  • + 1
 VitalMTB has a picture of the full bike on their Pietermaritzburg Day 1 presentation here:

www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/2012-UCI-World-Cup-Pietermaritzburg-South-Africa-Day-1,3370/Slideshow,0/sspomer,2

What looks interesting though..... are those 2.5" DH Version Schwalbe Hans Dampfs DH version??? O_O

And I was right, they completely changed the linkage, it doesnt only look excesively complicated and heavy, it looks hideus! Scott just lost a costumer if thats going to be the new Gambler....
  • + 1
 It isn't all that difficult to figure out how that linkage works. The right hand side of the horizontal link is attached to the front triangle with the red pivot hardware while the seatstays push on the bottom of the vertical link. The seatstays push, the vertical link rotates clockwise which in turn rotates the other link counterclockwise. The horizontal link floats while the vertical link compresses the shock.
  • + 0
 i don't think that was a problem anyway as the article said "it's easy to see", to start off the sentence describing the suspension.
  • + 1
 @paulwootton77, if read farther it would have been clear that Mike Levy didn't know how the linkage worked. Yes, it is pretty clear that it is linkage driven - good one.
  • + 1
 From the full photos it isn't looking too great, maybe this is why the coastal crew left, on another note all I want is a linkage piece to give my voltage a full 8 inches of travel, then it would truly be all I need. But that would take customers away from this bike so I'll probably be machining it myself somehow
  • + 1
 So after reading this blog in its entirety I feel like there wasn't a single descent explanation of how this bike actually works. Totally understandable seeing as how this is the first evidence we've seen and the clue were offered is a blurred image of 1/2 the bike.
So if you're still reading I would like to share my perspective on the thought that's goin through everyone's mind as the read this post; "How does it work?..."
So to begin, take a look at the rear triangle. It s a one-piece swingarm chassis mounted on a single pivot to the seat tube. The body of this chassis extends past the pivot and around the shock, where it attaches to a vertically positioned link (the V-link). The shock is mounted to the front triangle just above and forward of the BB. The previously mentioned v-link attaches to the other eyelet of the shock and creates compression when the swing arm is activated.
So... Still w/ me? Really? ... Cool.
As I was saying; a one piece swingarm mounts to the seat tube and compresses the shock via the vertical link.
Perpendicular to the vertical link is a horizontal link (H- link) which attaches at one end to the frame and extends forward attaching to the v-link at a pivot that is just below the v-links shock mount. The h-link creates a floating pivot point that allows for the tuning of either compression rate or axle path. Maybe both? Hopefully it at least helps with the brake-jac.
This unique prototype frame appears to share similar designs to previous Scott bikes, with the swing arm having almost identical lines to that found on the later Scott Nitrous frames. And it seems one might say the front triangle is a hybrid between the Genius LT & the Voltage.
So yeah, that's what's I got to say. Not sayin I'm right. Just sayin...
If you're still reading, thanks!
  • + 1
 Side note: by no means would I expect this to be too close to the finished product. Notice the use current and previous design elements. Typical Scott protocol when it comes time to develop something new. Kinda like Voltage/Nitrous prototype...
  • + 1
 It looks like the swing arm extends past the pivot point and pulls a link downward compressing the shock from the top. The other end of the shock must be fixed to the the swing arm before the pivot point, thus compressing the shock from the bottom as well. Clever setup but i don't think it's gonna be eye candy at all.
  • + 3
 This is my interpretation of the suspension setup. Please see this pic: www.pinkbike.com/photo/7835746
  • + 1
 I knew it. Any time a frame company signs a high profile WC racer, they develop a new DH rig. From this limited view it looks unique. Everyone keep an eye out for a new GT DH bike soon. i bet money, spy shots will surface this year.
  • + 4
 Noooooo my gambler officially became OLD Big Grin
  • + 3
 I was thinking that too... at least it still rides great!
  • + 2
 All of the comments saying carbon of you read it they said. "frame moulds are exspensive so they're getting it 100% before moving to carbon"
  • + 1
 Geez that is some hideous looking suspension! not a fan why couldn't they just use a long travel version of the voltage "voltage DH" like they were messing with last season..........................sad
  • + 3
 scott makes such nice stuffPimp
  • + 2
 With Faircloughon on the team you just knew this was coming. Linkage looks very different from the Voltage.
  • + 3
 What a tease... more pics of whole bike please
  • + 3
 At least it's not carbon.
  • + 2
 Can't imagine how it works :shock:
  • + 1
 here the bike is here side on view for all to see www.pinkbike.com/photo/7837550
  • + 1
 im not a big fan of scott bikes but from what i can see, my mind may change Wink
  • + 1
 Interesting linkage, but bulky. Poor design, i hope that it only prototype and Scott change design.
  • + 2
 This should be called a teaser! What about the rest of the bike????
  • + 2
 BRENDOG !
  • + 1
 The thinner tubes make the 40 look massive!
  • + 2
 cool.
  • + 1
 actually looks quite nice!
  • + 1
 i completely forgot that fairclough rides for scott now
  • + 1
 yar be a good photo right here!
www.pinkbike.com/photo/7837550
  • + 2
 *raycharles.gif*
  • + 1
 Is it wrong if I fap to the stantions?
  • + 1
 you already know the answer and yet you will still do it
  • + 2
 its not wrong just frowned upon
  • + 2
 i just derped myself Big Grin
  • + 0
 It's black, Must be Carbon! Woot!
  • - 3
 Not carbon im afraid! They would be using a single monocoque frame but from what I can see in the picture its alli by the looks of the top tube and downtube shapes anyway, far too circular to be carbon
  • + 10
 Sarcasm is difficult to convey in text...
  • + 2
 Tom, You don't say?
  • + 2
 I couldnt't work out if this was a legitimate ''woo carbon'' comment, seems not
  • + 1
 @Tomcostello My Ibis mojo is carbon and has round tubes, so i don't know were you got that from?
  • + 0
 Head tube looks a little thin? No tapering also?
  • + 2
 taper?

which DH fork has a tapered steerer?

taper the head tube so you have to run a reducer headset as a bottom cup?

Want a single crown bike.. the voltage is killer in that application.
  • + 0
 I think that Fairclough will make a lot of good things for Scott Bikes)
  • - 1
 looks alot like the suspension on their moto trail bike or whatever
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