# Stevie Smith Bike Check - Sea Otter 2012

Apr 21, 2012

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Why is the Monarch looking like its upside down. Is there a reason for it, does it matter how a shock goes on. Obviously it has to fit but it looks like there is more then enough clearance for it to face the other way. Can someone explain.
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Well, in theory if the shock is positioned that way, so the shaft is moving and the body (air chamber, piggyback) is stationary, it will better absorb small bumps, since the shaft is lighter than the body of the shock. In other words, less unsprung weight.
On coil shocks, you can actually feel the difference (I did when I flipped my shock), because of the bigger weight (the coil spring, right). I have never tried to flip my air shock, but I think that there is no difference because mine has got no piggyback so there is no big difference in the weight of the shaft and the body. So it's all down to looks.

Personally I like when the shock is positioned upside down like on Smiths bike. It looks cooler when only the shaft is moving.
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It's all about unsprung weight (-> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsprung_mass). The less, the better the suspension works. The shaft-side is the lighter side of the shock. So bolting this part to the link that "activates" the shock, lets the bike perform a little better.
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would also lower centre of gravity in that case.
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I flipped my shock and it didn't have piggy back, and the suspension was way better.
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I have an rp 23 and I actually run it so the larger can is being pushed, I have no clue why but it feels much less sticky to me in the beginning of the stroke. Personal preference I guess
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He's just a hipster
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PB physicists:

You may want to review whether or not the shock in this case constitutes sprung or unsprung mass. Hint: it's not unsprung ...

You may also reconsider how consequential moving 80g up or down 3" vs. center of gravity is - don't forget the 180 lb rider.
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Leese, I don't know for sure, but I think that on air shocks without piggyback the air can side is the actually lighter, because the damping system is inside the shaft. Correct me if I'm wrong?

And yes, it's weird, but there IS actually a difference of how the shock is positioned!
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If you want to know why shock positioning matters, think about how the oil sits in the air can relative to seal position.
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That would only matter if the shock is positioned vertical on the frame? On mine it's horizontal, so the oils sits the same either way, but there still is a difference.
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why so cocky hustler
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My question is why bike companies put shocks on their frame in a suboptimal fashion if "upside down" clearly works better?
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this is a neat wee bike! love the sticker fade detail on the toptube and going down the rear stay.... reminds me of the Fat chance 'yo eddy' paint job! retro wickedness!!
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Seen the same idea for a shorter travel setup for this race beforehttp://www.pinkbike.com/video/133503/ so might actually be stevie on the top spot this year
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So he runs a heavier wheel set but lighter tyres because he's worried about rotational weight
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Strong wheels so he doesn't blow them up on the jumps, but he doesn't need dual ply tires since there are little to no rocks on the Sea Otter DH course.... Pretty good setup really
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Funny how he pronounces Schwalbe - Shwawl bee
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How do you pronounce it?

Edit: It should be pronounced "schvaalb".
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since it's a german word it would be pronounced like this:

sch - same noise you make if you want someone to be silent
w - as in word
be - as in beginning
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It should be pronounced schwalbe, like its spelt. Schwalbe.
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Spelt is a type of wheat.
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I know a guy who swears it's Schwabble, like 'wobble'.
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me too! Where the hell that came from?!
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Schwobbly tires cos they wobble so much
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those boxxers on the top devinci to his left look well thick!
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Look's wrong doesnt it!
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Think you'll find they're on the right, not the left
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^ He said "his left"
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I knew what
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is it the lens or did they finally make them 40mm?
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i haven't heard of boxxer 40's but who knows
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They are the new Boxxer 50s...
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haha I've never understood why they would put 40mm stanchions on a single crown, and then go skinnier for the double crown.
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Because you already get loads more stiffness with two crowns vs. one, so you gain more benefits making single crown stanchions thicker. And in case anyone is still wondering, it's the lens distortion making it look thicker. Notice the wheels aren't exactly round either.
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Looks like the filmmaker's using a wide-angle lens to squeeze bikes + Stevie + brand tents,, and it naturally distorts the picture the closer you get to the edge of the shot. No 40mm Boxxers yet I think....
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Was going to mention the shirt, never mind
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What happened to your beard man!!??
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I was told that the sasquatch look is a winter style in Canada... always proceeded by the Super Mario look in the fall.
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what's going on with his tshirt?
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Its called MoirĂ©, and happens quite frequently when filming with DSLR's. If you are filming an object with a highly repetitive pattern/grid it can sometimes exceed the resolution of the camera. The result is that pattern shift you are seeing on his shirt.
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it looks cool, has anyone heard of doing this on purpose in filming?
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I haven't seen it done on purpose to be honest. I personally like to avoid it myself when filming! lol
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Wrong choice in shirt buddy
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whats with his shirt? its trippy
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Camera trying to line up the stripes with only parts of the information
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Boxxer style Mission Control. I love those knobs.
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Wooaahh his shirt!
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Those dh mallets look sweet. They are on my wish list already!
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Sick build.
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Just to be the first! Sexy Ass Bike!
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IKR!