Transition Bottle Rocket - first impression.

Nov 12, 2006
by Tyler Maine  
With Halloween just behind us, most of you are probably sick of Bottle Rockets. However this is no ordinary bottle rocket. This is a 5.5 inch travel free ride/ slope style bike, called the Bottle Rocket. A bike built for new school trails where stunts are big and smooth , but you may need to pedal up to the trail head. The Bottle Rocket is built by the rider owned Transition Bicycle Company based out of Ferndale Washington in the U.S.A.I picked up my Bottle Rocket today, and now with one extremely wet ride under my belt this is my first impression of the bike. “Out of the box” the first thing I noticed is how sharp the bike looks, I have the Kelly green colour with a Fox 36 Vanilla R. With the clean cable runs beefy gussets and chain stays, the bikes is simple but it looks like it was built with purpose. I then noticed how light it is, with stock components the Bottle Rocket weighs in at 39.6 Lbs. (by staying within my budget, I am stoked to have a ride under 45lbs, and you can expect that as I save my pennies again, I'll be shaving weight from the bike by spring time)

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One concern I had prior to getting the bike was sizing, on the TBC website they give recommendations for sizing. Myself I am just under 5’10” tall and they suggest a size small. In my past experiences with small frames they often feel very short in the top tube length, but the stand over height is good. However I took the website's advice and was pleasantly surprised, the dimensions were dead on. The head tube angle on the Bottle Rocket is 67 degrees, which feels very stable when going down steep descents, yet very nimble for the rest of the ride. The components that come stock on the Bottle rocket aren’t too shabby either:

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Frame sizeSmall
Rear ShockFox DHX 5.0 Coil
Fork2007 Fox Shox 36 Vanilla R
HeadsetFSA Orbit Z1.5R
CrankarmsFSA Gap 170mm
ChainringsFSA - 22/32 w/Bash Guard
Bottom BracketFSA Mega Exo External BB (4 Bearings)
PedalsTBC Step Down Pedals
ChainKMC Z9000
CassetteSRAM PG950 11-32
DerailleursSRAM X7 Mid-cage (rear) SRAM X-Gen (front)
Shifter Cable/HousingStock
Shifter PodsSRAM X7 (front & rear)
HandlebarFSA Gravity 31.8(clamp) x 50mm(rise)
StemTransition Temple 50mm
GripsODI Lock On-Rogue
BrakesHayes 9 Hydraulics with 8" front and 6" rear rotors
TiresMaxxis Minion 2.5 F & R
Wheel SetTBC Revolution 32 (32 mm rim width and 32 spokes
TubesMaxxis Welter weights
SaddleTBC - Park n' Ride
SeatpostTruvativ XR DC 30.0mm x 350mm
WeightAs is: approx 39.6lbs

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Our ride was on completely natural terrain so I did not get an opportunity see how the bike handles big hits. Although it rode very nicely through roots and rocks and it pedaled up hills well too. After one ride I did not find anything I would like improved on the Bottle Rocket, and I am not prepared to give a verdict on the bike, but I am tempted to say this could be the most fun bike I have ever ridden. I will continue to ride the Bottle Rocket for the rest of the winter, so stay tuned for a complete review of the bike sometime in the spring. And if you’re interested in taking a closer look and the Bottle Rocket or any of Transition’s other bikes visit their website www.transitionbikes.com

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Happy Trails
Isaac

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  • 55 3
 robinator/mYcoCkIsbIgGEr,

this is Kyle at transition bikes. i hate to have to butt in and call you guys out, but you obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Do you guys work in the industry? Do you "really know" what you're talking about? the answer is NO. to even say these things is really immature given the fact that you have no idea about what you're talking about.

1) We do all the design work here IN WASHINGTON. If you want to see our 2D and 3D models come by sometime and i'd be more than happy to walk you through exactly how we do our frame design. It's not rocket science.

2) Since you know so much about "catalog bikes" why don't you enlighten us? What factory? Which catalog model? I will put my life on the fact that YOU CAN'T. i'll even give you a headstart. check out the TBS. What you'll find is basically every design out there already done. and you won't find our bikes in there....why? because the designs are not property of the factory, but rather they are Transition Bikes property. you will see alot of similar designs (suspension, pivots, shape, etc.) but this is the game with these manufacturers. they see what the frame companies are doing and copy to some extent and put it in the catalog. this attracts smaller OEMs to work with that factory. it's pretty straightforward. so, you have companies either buying an existing design and using the exact design (euro brands to this alot), or the company will take an existing design from teh factory, make some tweaks for differentiation, and then brand it, or the company will do their own design, find the factory that has the right capability to make it, then get it made. Transition Bikes, is the latter.

3) you say you broke one and you've seen them break? Why has my warranty dept not dealt with you? What bike did you break? where did you break it? seems to me like you're hatin for no reason. otherwise please indulge us all a bit.

4) you mention the "flaws". what are the flaws? You say they break. how? where? if you really knew what you're talking about you'd try to educate us all rather than just making blanket statements that don't shed any light on the facts.

anyway, thanks to all that support us...and to everybody else, i encourage you to first learn the facts (not heresay) then share. i am completely open to discussing this at length on the phone if any of you need to become educated on this subject. robinator/mycockisbigger, you guys should probably take me up on this offer....

-kyle
  • 10 0
 Thanks for your post ! Really interesting, and just proove your reliability ... I'll definitly take one of your Bottle Rocket !
  • 5 0
 thanks for that! it really helps to have someone who knows what they are talking about to talk about a product. i think one of your frames is going to be a not so distant future investment
  • 4 0
 That was good insight. I am definately thinking about getting a Transition, not only because my friend really likes his, but because the owners will personally talk to you to get the right product/ size for you. And they have the best crash replacement policy I have seen from any brand!
  • 2 11
flag mtb3006 (Dec 24, 2006 at 12:17) (Below Threshold)
 I believe that both you and Kevin were marketers for Verizon, not engineers so I'm not sure how much true engineering is going on in Washington. I'm sure you decide on the geometry and how much travel the frames will have, but I don't believe you are modeling the frames on CAD and using FEA and other tools to analyze stresses, leverage ratios, and ramping rates. I think you choose frames from a catalog and tell Tawian how to modify them to the geometry and travel of your liking. If you did design them, then why did you choose 6061 over other types of Al, what is the load capacity of the bearing used, or what factor of saftey was used when designing the frames.
  • 2 0
 you sure shut them up. i just started saving fo my bottle rocketWink
  • 1 1
 I do agree with some of the coments being made about those other two haters but in a way they do contribute to the lerning experience. Well, it would be more creditable if they were more specific but they do offer some insight into potential buyers submerged within a bias community. Hence, everyone is raveing about the frame. They offer something to think about, which is good. Because of this i really hope that anyone else that has any problems with the frames provides their experiences in a respectful manner. Those two dudes were just ass holes. But yeah, im still going to buy a transition eventulally. This is a pretty active blog. Hopefully it gets stronger.
  • 6 0
 Oh yeah, if that was actulally Kyle, props man. What you did really shows dedication, involvment, and concideration for your product that very effectively strengthens customer support and respect. Thanks for your insight on the matter. Who else would have done that? Norco? Kona? Specialized? Santa Cruz? Would they even care? Would the take the time to talk to us? You dudes at Transition Bikes seem like pretty solid dudes. I deffenetly wouldn't feel bad about supporting this company because i know that i can rely on them more so if i have a problem then with other companies. I've read alot of other reviews about malfunctions and those individuals received little to no help from the company but rather more bad days without being able to ride. (raceface) K, i'll stop now. haha.
Thanks transition.
  • 2 0
 im buying one for sure now with that customer support and the lifetime break garantee the bottle rocket is mine gonna get rock shox domains with it
  • 2 0
 what a way to defend your product!!! keep it up guys im definately buying a bottle rocket now
  • 5 0
 you know i really dont like it when people knock bike companys because every bike company makes a bike and they have to try to please every one so people will like it like personlay i dont like kona and i love specialized and people that i talk to dont like specialized but fuck it the bike is our tool and you need a tool that you like and can use over and over again and to each there own soo fuckit some of you guys that dont like it then stop looking at the fuckin pictures and go ride what ever the hell you ride or make somthing better and shut the fuck up
  • 4 0
 robinator900 u dont now what your takin about-I don't know if u can get em out of a catalog but thjeyre definetly not crap. ifroride your right. I live ten min from the factory in Ferndale WA. Ive been in the factory- know the owners and have rode with some of the riders and was introduce to the first 3 promo bottle rockets at a rome premeir. Personallly its my dream bike and can't wait to get my hands on one.
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flag mycockisbigger (Nov 25, 2006 at 11:42) (Below Threshold)
 hey dipshit, robinator is right, how could you live near the factory where theyre made if theyre made in Taiwan... yeah figure that one out dumbass... Theyre catalog bikes and ive seen transition bikes break too... they arent good bikes
  • 2 0
 Hey get this, if you knew anything you would know that this is a small company. I don't know how many times ive read in this posting that TRANSITION BIKES IS A SMALL COMPANY OUT OF WASHINGTON!
  • 4 0
 That bike seems awesome, and that's exactly what I was looking for ! Compact frame, means it must be easy to handle, really good looking, and affordable... what more ? And the frame have a life warranty, Transition rules ! This bike seems to be a real slopestyle/freeride/dirt kick ass bike .. An all-arround bike for serious stuff ... I definitly will take one ! Stop speaking about catalog bike, ride one of those before spiting on Transition with no reason ! "but I am tempted to say this could be the most fun bike I have ever ridden", I trust the guy who's RIDING one ! Not the asswholes you say stupid stuff without ever had touched one ...
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flag mycockisbigger (Nov 30, 2006 at 21:40) (Below Threshold)
 uh dude your wrong....ive seen them brake ( i broke one... does that help having a perspective from someone who actually rides one?) they really arent very strong....and ive heard that theyre catalog bikes too...yeah and my brother works in the industry so he has the inside scoop... but really i dont care, just waste your money on a Transition, just remember that me and robinator warned you about their flaws
  • 3 0
 oh ... that sucks... where did it break ? I saw on their website that they replace/repair every broke frame if ever it happen. Did they replace yours ?
  • 3 0
 This bike looks very compact., especially in the shock area. Hell, it's like something you would pull out of a kinder surprise egg! That said, it would be perfect as a jumper, and all around rippin machine. Easy to toss around. Looks good.
  • 3 0
 This review is lacking. While I appreciate bike reviews, and would like to see more on pinkbike.com, this review is limited. Only one day on the bike and on limited terrain. More time on the bike would be apprecaited before posting reviews, will give both the reviewer and readers a better understanding of the bike.
  • 4 1
 You have to admit though, the reviewer posted the article as a "first impression". Stiil, can't wait 'till the full review comes out.
  • 1 1
 ghashmi This was sent in by the owner of the bike-its not a product review that was sent to him for review. He just wanted to say that he likes his new ride and share it with others. And yes hopefully he chooses to do a full on review for spring time once he's put serious time on the machine this winter.
  • 2 0
 i have to admit that these new small travel burley bikes are a great idea, but there is no one do all bike that will excel at all applications, so remember to choose what your application will be 90% of the time and purchase according to that 90% not the 10%. thats my 2 cents.
  • 2 0
  bottome line the bike rockes even if it ther are some flaw's the'll be fixed like it's a newer company i be more than half of you have never even toched the bike so you don't no shit about it. botome line bike is a exalent all around free ride bike.
  • 5 0
 Fork: TALAS vannilla R??????
  • 1 0
 no, fox 36 talas r
  • 1 0
 haha good eye-it was last when I went over it and it was my goof-oops. But you get the idea-its a dope bike!
  • 3 0
 but seriously robinator and other one just calm down and ride your bike while we ride our good bikes which in some cases are transitions and they are fuckin sweet!
  • 1 0
 I just recently went on my first ride on my new bottle rocket i got the air shock though... the bikes are completely silent no chain or derailer slap and take big hits with ease!!!!! sick ride dude!!
  • 1 1
 I was actually not that impressed by the way the Bottlerocket felt when I rode it. I actually liked the Preston Better in 4" travel mode till they changed it to look like a Banshee Pyre.
Guess the bike was not for me...or perhaps it was the build I rode coz it really did not feel right and was super real end weighty....I also did notice that there was a cable crimping feature designed into the cable routing by the rear shock and mount area...yikes!
  • 6 1
 very very beatiful bike
  • 9 111
flag robinator900 (Nov 13, 2006 at 16:10) (Below Threshold)
 and for those of you who dont know, transition bikes are CATALOG bikes!!!!!!!! This means they arent designed by engineers, it means somebody who really doesnt know much more than me and you designed a bunch of frames, put them in a catalog, and then transition went through the catalog and chose their line of bikes to put their name on. THESE ARE REGRESSIVE, WEAK, and THEY SUCK. I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN 4 TRANSITION BIKES SNAP racing and freeriding. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS COMPANY!
  • 14 1
 Hmm, are you sure these are Catalog bikes? I thought they were just some young guys from Washington doing something new.
  • 5 64
flag robinator900 (Nov 13, 2006 at 18:12) (Below Threshold)
 yeah dude, im totally into new companies starting up and being innovative but these are catalog bikes
  • 24 1
 man this robinator cannot be reasoned with... quit bein so rediculous man... i think that kyle young and kevin menard are some radically genius guys... they are building bikes that will be ridden on todays landscape... if u wanna be a dick... start your own biking blog that no one will ever care about because you act like a retarded guy with a computer... i dont know how u decided that these bikes are catalogue bikes... but u might wanna stop sayin it before somebody kicks your ass...
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flag mycockisbigger (Nov 30, 2006 at 21:36) (Below Threshold)
 ooohhh your gonna kick his ass...what a threat. hey i think youre a bitch, what are you gonna do? find me and beat me up? hahahaha.... ps i bought a transition, and it broke when i landed a rode gap perfectly...f*cking rediculus
  • 9 0
 robinator900 is retarted. don't listen to him. he has no idea what he is talking about. listen to kyle below.
  • 39 0
 hey robinator900/mycockisbigger, even though kyle already schooled both of yer asses, maybe this will give both of you a little perspective from a guy who has actually broken a transition. As of now I, not you or anyone else, has the only broken gran mal to transitions name and warranty department, and even then its not even all the way broken yet, just a cracked head tube weld that could have been the factory's fault. By the way who exactly did you see snap them? Which bikes were they? You say yer not trying to stir up shit but by your ambiguous claims, I can't come to any other conclusion other than that you were. My Gran Mal was the best bike I ever owned, and the cracked frame might even say more about how many times that thing saved my ass rather than the weakness of the bike itself. Transition just set me up with a new BLINDSIDE, yeah that's right, because it was the only frame they had in my size. Can you say that about another company? Probably not. Any other company out there with the same situation would have left you hanging and IF they got back to you they would set you up with the frame that would either be too small or too big and would they care? NO. Why? Their number one priority is money and by screwing you over they save themselves thousands of dollars every year. By the way, a simple suspension design does not necessarily mean a weak bike or that it is from a catalog. Those companies who try to come up with the "latest" and "greatest" in suspension technology often have the most flaws with their bikes because the design is still new. How many people do you know still riding a VPP design after 4 years? Not many. How about the four bar or single pivot design? I'll let you figure that one out.
  • 10 0
 ahahah robinator900/mycockisbigger u got owned
  • 3 0
 nellydafreerider:

good job
  • 1 0
 im about to buy a transition 2010 bottlerocket, for about 1700 mrsp, as it says on the website, so like is it realy 39 pounds!!!!!!! thats heavy! and the bike i got right now is like 5pounds!
  • 0 1
 I don't know, for a 5" bike at 39lbs that's a lot on the heavy side. Granted you could shave a couple pounds without much effort you might as well ride a VP Free with 8" for the same weight. Or if you want a similar travel bike for a similar price but sub 35lbs pick up an SX Trail. It does look nice though and I think it would be fun to ride, but not my first choice.
  • 1 2
 i've seen 230+ pound guys jump 40 ft gaps and drop like 25 ft. it isn't meant to ride up mountains it is just for people who don't like riding more manuverable less slugish bikes
  • 3 0
 yea wicked sweet tight bike
  • 2 0
 this is such a good deal for those kind of components. id wanna rip down a mountain on one of those babys.
  • 3 0
 I have to buy a bottle rocket that bike is so dope
  • 4 0
 sexalent...
  • 1 0
 haha well i was bored and i was reading this and saw that ever since that kyle guy said all that, those other two guys havent said one word.....nice
  • 2 0
 thats the sickest bike ever!
  • 2 1
 the bottle rocket is soo sick..and feels so good, and cna take soo much abuse, for all u hacks out there!@
  • 3 0
 Verry nice!
  • 2 0
 beautiful bike. was nice to ride with you on Sunday Isaac.
  • 0 0
 i definately want one now!!!!
after the argument kyle put up for his product just makes me trust them more!!
how much do they run for tho?
  • 3 0
 "SICK BIKE!"
  • 1 1
 ive rode one of these and there the sickest ever. u can huck like hell on them too.
  • 1 0
 hell yeah, im ridin one of those and it kicks ass.
  • 0 0
 Can you get them in completes or do you buy the frame seperate and kind of built them custom?
  • 0 0
 you can get the frame/shock only or you can buy them complete, just look at their websites.
  • 1 0
 bleh ok i guess everyone had diff opinions
  • 1 0
 i cant get sick of those
  • 1 1
 seems kinda heavy for that build
  • 0 0
 That was 10 minutes well spent reading this thread.....aaaaaah!
  • 0 0
 cant decide between the bottle Rocket and the Dirtbag...
  • 0 0
 Me neither. I like the bottle rocket because it looks like its more versatile in the skate park, on single track, dj's, and the mountain. Its geomerty is quite simular to the ToP. The dirt bag seems more suited for strictly freerideing and being at the mountain. It would be cool if Transition had some videos of the two bikes in different settings besides always being at the hill. Like in the skate park or in a six pack. I think im going to go for the bottle rocket though just because ive rode a dh bike and a street bike for quite some time and the bottle rocket looks like more of an intermediate, which is what i want, compared to the dirt bag. Good luck though.
  • 0 0
 Transitions on i going to see one this friday in danver mass
  • 0 0
 They say the frame is size small what is that like??? 15" 16" frame???
  • 0 0
 I like the dirt on the seat lol But this bike is dope!
  • 0 0
 i cant decide between the double or the bottle rocket
  • 0 0
 how much did you pay for that outa the box?
  • 1 0
 hate hate hate
  • 0 0
 wonder if there is a bottle rocket replacement coming soon?
  • 0 0
 cool how much was it?
  • 1 3
 ok wow, i know that was first impression, but i learned nothing from that review.
  • 1 3
 Copie of NICOLAI Helius or NOX Flux
  • 2 0
 This bike looks 1000 times more beef then the Nox flux. It looks similar to the Nicolai Helius however, Nicolai does some thing completly differnt then what Transition does. Also the Nicolai Helius frame(Rocco) is worth $3000 canadian compared to $1450 for the bottle rocket(DHX 5).
  • 1 1
 definitely resembles a NOX
  • 1 3
 just kiddin
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