Interbike 2008 Trek Remedy 9

Sep 25, 2008
by Mike Levy  
Trek had a massive presence at the Outdoor Demo, not only with some big tents and a vending machine but also a huge number of demo bikes for the curious to try. By the looks of the lineup the 6" travel Remedy was by far the most sought after, and for good reason: the mid-travel platforms seem to be everyone's cup of tea lately. We pulled some strings and bypassed the line to get ourselves a closer look at their top end rig, the Remedy 9.

Check out the HD video inside explaining the Remedy's unique features!
2009 Trek Remedy 9

2009 Trek Remedy 9




Trek's Michael Browne talks us through the unique features on their 2009 Remedy 9 "every mountain" bike!




Even with the mild heatstroke courtesy of Bootleg Canyon I still managed to take note of how organic the 6" travel Trek looks. I know, it's just a bicycle frame, a tool made to do a job (and do it well hopefully), but I couldn't help appreciating this steed's lines more than most. Each frame tube seems to come together with it's mate at just the right angle as to make it look like it was meant to be. I'd be the first to admit that I should only be lusting after the opposite sex with this amount of enthusiasm, but I'm a man of little self control and the Remedy is striking.




It's in the details.....

E2 headtube


The Remedy platform takes advantage of a few neat features, the first being an E2 headtube design. While not entirely new to bicycles, it's actually trickle down goodness from their Madone road frame, it is the first time it's being used on mountain bikes. E2 headtube's have a dramatic hourglass profile, tapering from accepting 1.5" steerer tubes at the lower end to the traditional 1.125" steerer tubes at the top. The goal is all the precision of the bigger tube size, but with non of the stem compatibility issues or weight gains. Before you moan about another new standard, keep in mind that regular 1.125" forks can also be used without any hassle.




EVO Link


Lighter, stiffer, and stronger are every bike companies goals as far as performance is concerned. With it's single piece design (well, it's two pieces welded together, really) it makes do without any bolt on cross members that add weight and complexity.




Trek used bearings with super-special long inner races in certain pivots. Why? Because then when I take it all apart I don't loose the teeny tiny washers that would be hiding in there otherwise.



ABP Pivot


What can ABP do for you? A lot according to Trek. I for one was convinced that there couldn't be anything new and ground breaking design-wise in full suspension bikes left to come up with. Leave it to a team of trained engineers and suspension wizards to prove me wrong!


ABP takes the pivot which would usually be on the chainstay or seatstay, and places it directly around the axle itself. The intentions are to limit the change of distance between the caliper and rotor as the suspension cycles. Trek is claiming that "ABP allows the brake caliper to maintains a near constant relationship to the disc rotor, which creates less suspension stiffening under braking loads." In simpler terms it should mean that braking has very little effect on the Remedy's suspension action.

I've heard a load of questions about the Remedy, with most of them concerning the ABP system. No, there is no special hub needed. It uses a standard 135 mm quick release hub. The single proprietary part is the extra long QR skewer. The skewer does not hold anything together, just your wheel into the frame like normal.







Full Floater


No funny abbreviations with this one, pretty self explanatory. The Fox RP23 shock is not mounted rigidly to the front triangle, but to the EVO link at the top end and a small extension on the chainstay on the bottom end. This idea is not entirely new to pedal bikes, and actually dates back to the '80s with Suzuki dirt bikes.


There are some real advantages to designing a suspension bike this way. One big advantage is being able to better tune the bike suspension rate due to now having two places to do it, the EVO link and the lower shock mount. Trek has built a slight falling rate into the Remedy's linkage that when coupled with the the Fox RP23 XV's larger than normal air can is claimed to give up that elusive bottomless feel to the bikes travel. Not having one end of the shock bolted rigidly to the frame also means that the front triangle can be built a bit lighter without having to worry as much about hard bottoming forces being fed right into the main triangle.



Hardware


It's amazing to me the amount of premium bikes out there that still use hardware store nuts and bolts to hold everything together, both for pivots and shock mounting. While it may not affect how the bike performs, you surely deserve more when these these things cost so much to begin with. It's nice to see more and more companies, especially the big ones, finishing off their frames with some nice hardware.

Tapered aluminum main pivot axles. Note the torque numbers on each nut or bolt.

Tapered aluminum main pivot axles. Note the torque numbers on each nut or bolt.








At a hair over 28 lbs. and with 6" of travel the new Remedy 9 looks like a very fun bike. In fact, I know it is as I've spent the last 3 months flogging a custom built Remedy on my home trails. After I recover from Las Vegas you'll be able to read about my build and what I think of the Remedy in a long-term review. Stay tuned....

I was also lucky enough to be able to ride the a Remedy at their Mexico based bike launch (I know, it's a hard life....) You can read about it in both parts, HERE and HERE.

Looking for more info on the Remedy and other models? Head to Trek's website for all the details.


35 Comments

  • 6 0
 I have the 08, of this bike, and LOVE it, i was shocked, cuz i thought trek was cookie-cuter crap, but 2008 and forward, its a new game. one of my all time fav bikes.
  • 3 0
 I agree I thought treks sucked and were only good for roadie's or xc hardtailers but the I saw the session77 and bought it really liked it and started to change my opinion on treks quality now my dream frame is a remedy 9 but my new norco six will do... for now:P
  • 0 0
 do you know rough weight differences between the six and the remedy 9??? cheers!
  • 0 1
 nah i don't sorry but i can say the six is surprisingly light
  • 2 0
 i have a remedy 8 to and it is probably m favourite bike the only thing i changed was the rear shock to a dhx air and it shredds everything i have came across with no porblem. the suspension is great and they are wicked strong and also climb really really well
  • 6 0
 lookks swweeettt
  • 11 14
 that bike is jizz worthy
  • 11 0
 i wish they would make a strictly slopestyle version of it... that would be sick
  • 2 0
 McCaul's got a Remedy custom built for slopestyle, I'm pretty sure. Sweeeeeeet ride.
  • 2 0
 ya he does have a custom remedy for slopestyle
  • 2 0
 do does brandon seminuk or how ever you spell it, there sick i love brandons purple one
  • 0 0
 im not to sure brandon's is a remedy its a new slopestyle prototype but i think they should make the same model cam mccaul has
  • 0 0
 dude iv wanted to get a remedy frame but one prob i cant freaking put a chain guide on it like cam mccauls remedy
  • 3 0
 I have the renedy 8 (only because there was no 9s left) and its as strong as a ox.... it climbs like a mountain goat yet descends like a falcon going after a wounded rabbit
  • 4 0
 Treks pulled out the stops this time!
  • 2 0
 Hey all you guys complaining about not having hardware store bolts on your bikes, how else do you plan on making such a bomb proof, 28 pound, 6" travel bike?
  • 1 0
 does anyone know how strong these are? could they be used for light dh and freeride if i put a coils hock on the back with stronger wheels and a better suited fork.

any ideas?
  • 8 5
 Cam's bike finally at stores Wink
  • 7 7
 that came out last year
  • 2 3
 I can't agree what Mike wrote about "hardware". Of course you deserve more than standard stuff - I agree on that and really understand your attitude, I like when something is done like this myself. But you would probably change your mind if you damaged a thread on one of those custom bolts. If you live in USA, replacing one is probably a piece of cake. But if you live in Europe.. that would be a road through pain. Standard bolts = no problems. You go to a metal shop and that's it.
  • 2 1
 Good point, Proxx. I think that's where good dealer service comes into play. A dialed shop should have the goods, or at least be able to procure them quickly, and get you back onto trail.
  • 3 2
 Replacing the 'top-hat' nuts on a blur - Minimum 3 days downtime to have the stuff rushed in. Replacing the ugly hex nuts on an Id - 5 minutes of digging through a trough of spare parts.... Granted you can't beat the finished look of specialty parts, and if being able to ride everyday is that important you should probably also have a steel singlespeed in the stable somewhere.
  • 0 1
 Yeah, that's true. Here in Poland life isn't that rough as some people may think - we're not in eastern Russia or so (no flaming). We have no trouble with buying parts, we have probably (mostly) everything, complete bikes are quite easy to get too, but if you want some replace kits... you may forget it or be prepared to wait some time and pay lots of money. If it's an European brand it might be easier. But I bet even official dealer here doesn't order two custom bolts from Trek just to wait 5 years (maybe less, or maybe more?) for somebody to buy it. You know what i'm aiming at? Or Fox's 40 - you can get it through our 'local ebay' or worldwide ebay, but I've heard the dealer never has it on stock. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 28.2? 28 point god dam 2!! my street bike is like 25, how does that make any sense?? o ffs i need to lose some weight on my bike asap.
  • 2 0
 all of the new treks have been astounding! especially with the EVO link! gotta love 'em
  • 3 0
 this is so much better than the kona coilair!
  • 0 0
 i have the 07 model and i havent had problem but with the new designs that came out on 08 i fell in love again.. i used the remedy 9 for a day and now i will try to get one as soon as possible
  • 2 1
 Pretty slick, especially the floating suspension, but the 'every' mountain bike shit is PR poo
  • 1 0
 could this be used for DH like whistler etc , please help
also could you put dual crowns on this bike?
  • 3 2
 I want one!
  • 0 1
 Jumpsuits gotta point guys.....and come on if u cant get parts dont buy the bike easy as that
  • 0 0
 ABP

"that means active braking under suspension"

haha.
  • 0 1
 deffs looking into getting one
  • 0 0
 braaap
  • 0 3
 haha that guy above me is a straight clown ha what a retard obviously he hasn seen the session..giant??? ha

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