First Look: 2013 X-Fusion - Oversized, 34mm Trail Forks, Slippery Coatings and a Wild-Looking XC Shock

Feb 17, 2012
by Richard Cunningham  
Pinkbike got a tip from X-Fusion's John Hauer that he and Brian Lopes may be riding secret 2013 prototypes near Brian's Laguna Beach home this February. We dropped in on Brian to see what was up and got some sweet spy shots. Turns out that X-Fusion has developed a super slick coating that looks a lot like the applied-in-Japan Kashima coating that Fox debuted a year earlier. The big news, however, is a larger diameter, 34-millimeter stanchion-tube format for its aggressive trail/all-mountain forks.

Brian Lopes and X-Fusion s John Hauer had just returned from a training ride in the coastal hills behind Laguna beach when we spied some new hardware on their bikes. Hmmm let s take a closer look.
Brian Lopes and X-Fusion's John Hauer had just returned from a training ride in the coastal hills behind Laguna Beach when we spied some new hardware on their bikes. Hmmm, let's take a closer look.

bigquotesThe addition of two millimeters in the diameter of the fork tubes, along with some changes in the architecture of the crown and sliders make a massive difference in stiffness over 32-millimeter forks - especially during hard braking. -John Hauer

The new mid-diameter platform extends to X-Fusion's 29er lineup with the introduction of the Trace - a sweet 140-millimeter-stroke fork with huge tire clearance for big-wheel riders who want to break out of the XC realm. Finally, we photographed an impossibly small air-sprung damper on John's 29er test rig. Hauer said the Microlite shock was slated for production. possibly as soon as late 2012 and would compete directly with the DT Swiss XC Carbon shock which has been the first choice of weight-conscious cross-country racers, primarily in Europe. Word is that the Microlite shock weighs a mere 150 grams.

Velvet 32-millimeter fork in the background compared to the larger 34-millimeter stanchion-tube 2013 fork in the right. HOw many changes can you spot
Velvet 32-millimeter fork in the background compared to the larger, 34-millimeter stanchion-tube 2013 fork on the right. How many changes can you spot?

Hauer was forthcoming about many aspects of the 'secrets' at hand, but warned that X-Fusion is still in the development stages on some aspects of the forks we saw there. The 20-millimeter axle used on the 26-inch fork was possibly going to be reduced to a 15-millimeter version, depending upon test results, and there was a hint that a bold new arch configuration may appear in the not too distant future. When asked about 650b-length forks, Hauer dodged the question, but his answer was the well-rehearsed kind that virtually assures that a press release will be coming within a few weeks. A dual-crown fork? Um ahhh, Um, ahhh - can't talk about that.

The 34-millimeter stanchion tubes required a different crown design. The longer socket on the right belongs to the 2013 fork while the shorter socket of the white crown belongs to the current Velvet fork.
The 34-millimeter stanchion tubes required a different crown design. The longer socket on the right belongs to the 2013 fork, while the shorter socket of the white crown belongs to the current Velvet fork.


X-Fusion's 34-millimeter 26-inch Trail Fork

X-Fusion has yet to name its 26-inch fork, but that shouldn't stop the lightweight, 160-millimeter-travel slider from becoming a must have for hard-charging riders. Hauer claims that the old-school 32-millimeter trail fork has been pushed to the end of its performance and while it will still be a go-to for XC racers or weight-conscious riders, it cannot come close to the performance that a larger-format fork offers. Weight figures for the new 34-millimeter chassis compared to a 32 in a 140-millimeter-stroke version are 3.8 pounds (1724g) for the 32 and four pounds even (1814g) for the 34. Travel is internally adjustable from 140 millimeters to 160 millimeters and can be set internally by moving a pin to a number of holes in the air-spring-side shaft. The 'pin ladder' has been an X-Fusion feature for some time and X-Fusion will preset your fork at the factory for a small charge (15 bucks in the US).

X-Fusion s yet-to-be-named 26-inch fork features 34-millimeter-diameter aluminum stanchion tubes Travel from 140 to 160 millimeters a completely redesigned crown and lower casting and the new platform will replace the Velvet as the brand s premier Trail AM fork. Not set in stone but promising are its 20mm axle option and dedicated post-mounts for 200mm brake rotors.
X-Fusion's yet-to-be-named 26-inch fork features 34-millimeter-diameter aluminum stanchion tubes, travel from 140 to 160 millimeters and a completely redesigned crown and lower casting. The new platform will replace the Velvet as the brand's premier Trail/AM fork. Not set in stone, but still promising are its 20-millimeter axle option and dedicated post-mounts for 200-millimeter brake rotors.

The crown is new, with thinner, longer sockets holding the stanchion tubes and the lowers are completely redesigned with webbed dropouts and a much beefier arch. The fork's damping internals, however, will be much the same as the Velvet's. Hauer said that most of X-Fusion's recent efforts have been concentrated on damping performance and they are quite pleased with the results, so the dials and tune will be similar to the Velvet and X-Fusion riders will feel at home on the new sliders. When asked if the forks would get the slippery coating, we got the wait-and-see answer. It seems foolish not to put the slick stuff on X-Fusion's premier fork, but we won't have to wait long, as there is talk of a test session coming up in a month or so - should be fun.

We spotted a new fork crown design left with a wider cross-section that fits closer to the tire and has and a much more robust transition into the slider casting. A rear-swept wing adds stiffness to the top of the new arch. Compare it to the thinner Velvet arch on the right.
We spotted a new fork crown design (left) with a wider cross-section that fits closer to the tire and has and a much more robust transition into the slider casting. A rear-swept 'wing' potentially adds stiffness to the top of the new arch. Compare it to the thinner Velvet arch on the right.

Compare the redesigned 2013 dropout casting left with the present Velvet fork right and you might pick out a few nuances. The foot-bolt seems to be closer to the axle on the new fork hinting at a new offset measurement that is better suited for slack head angles.
Compare the redesigned 2013 dropout casting (left) with the present Velvet fork (right) and you might pick out a few nuances. The foot-bolt seems to be closer to the axle on the new fork, hinting at a new offset measurement that could be better suited for slack head angles.


Trace 29er Fork

X-Fusion's Trace 29er fork arrives exactly a year after Fox Racing Shox debuted its 34-millimeter-stanchion Float 29er fork, so the concept is not new. The need for a stiffer fork platform on a big-wheel bike is critical because the lever arm is longer and that puts more bending stress the fork components from the outset. Add more travel and the situation deteriorates quickly. X-Fusion's 34-millimeter chassis puts the performance back into a 29er fork without boosting its weight beyond what is appropriate for cross-country/trail and all-mountain applications. The Trace's geometry is 29er-specific to balance steering forces and its crown arch is wide enough to clear the largest rubber available. The internals are said to be similar to the Velvet's, with a pin-ladder travel adjustment and a similar range of damping features from the RL (rebound and lockout) to the DLA (Down Low Adjust) external-remote travel-adjustment option. Weight is reported to be very competitive.

Big news for 29er riders is X-Fusion s 140-millimeter-stroke Trace fork. The Trace shares the 34-millimeter stanchion platform and features dedicated 29er architecture in the lower casting.There is plenty of room for AM-sized rubber in the arch and the dropout features the X-15 through-axle system.
Big news for 29er riders is X-Fusion's 140-millimeter-stroke Trace fork. The Trace shares the 34-millimeter stanchion platform and features dedicated 29er geometry in the lower casting.There is plenty of room for AM-sized rubber in the arch, and the dropout features the X-15 through-axle system.

With significant numbers of riders either converting to 29ers or trading up from XC type big-wheel bikes to more capable, longer-travel models, the Trace fork comes at the right time. Also, X-Fusion's late entry into that market gave them the time to anticipate recent 29er trends like slacker head angles and more aggressive skillsets. Time will tell, but the Trace fork seems to be the right product at the golden moment.

About That Super Slick Coating

The word is: 'not too much to say about X-Fusion's Kashima look-alike coating.' All indicators say that the golden application will grace all of X--Fusion's upper-end shock lineup. The news from Hauer was: 'If X-Fusion finds some new technology that makes our suspension perform better, than we will include it in our lineup. If we use the super slick coating, then there won't be an up-charge for it.' Both the O2 RCX shock we photographed and the Microlite XC damper were treated, so it appears likely.

We asked about the super slick coating on the 2013 O2 RL shock. John Hauer said that X-Fusion is currently deciding on where to use it on their fork and shock lineup. While he proffered no secrets on what the coating was he did say that there would be no extra charge for it.
We asked about the super slick coating on the 2013 O2 RL shock. John Hauer said that X-Fusion is currently deciding on where to use it in their fork and shock lineup. While he proffered no secrets as to what the coating was, he did say that there would be no extra charge for it.


Microlite Shock

While we can't see the bulk of PB riders rushing to buy a 150-gram XC racing shock, the fact that one exists is interesting enough to bear mention. The damping is very light in compression because Euro XC wieners (the intended customers) prefer to pump up the air spring to otherworldly pressures to maintain pedaling firmness. In that light, X-Fusion reduced the blue lever to 'lockout' and 'open' settings only to make mid-race decisions quick and sure. A handlebar remote is also an option. The Microlite will not be available with an air-volume sleeve because its minimal air-can volume is required to provide a progressive end-stroke spring rate.

X-Fusion s Microlite damper is targeted directly at DT Swiss XR Carbon shock presently the lightest production XC damper. Reportedly the Microlite comes in at 150-grams - five grams less than the XR Carbon.
X-Fusion's Microlite damper is targeted directly at DT Swiss XR Carbon shock, presently the lightest production XC damper. Reportedly, the Microlite comes in at 150-grams - five grams less than the XR Carbon.

X-Fusion s Microlite shock is dwarfed by the pivot hardware of the Tomac Diplomat 29er. The shock body is slim - almost exactly the diameter of the grip-end of a handlebar. The red dial is a basic low-speed rebound control while the blue lever offers only lockout and open options.
X-Fusion's Microlite shock is dwarfed by the pivot hardware of the Tomac Diplomat 29er. The diameter of the shock body is about 22 millimeters - only the width of the grip-end of a handlebar. The red dial is a basic low-speed rebound control, while the blue lever offers only lockout and open options.

Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesIt is no secret that X-Fusion is hot on the tails of the sport's established suspension suppliers and its new 34-millimeter chassis is exactly what is needed to bring lightweight forks in line with the improved skillset of today's trail riders - regardless of which wheel diameters they choose. If the new coating fares well, that should only sweeten the package. The proof is in the riding, though, and we are looking forward to getting some saddle time on both the 26 and 29-inch forks soon. When we do, you'll be the first to know. - RC



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160 Comments
  • 137 3
 X-Fusion: if you're going to make a 140-160mm travel fork with 34mm sliders, PLEASE keep the 20mm axle. Kthxbye.
  • 15 0
 And make the pin go lower as well! If it could go to 120mm and 100mm as well that would be a perfect fork. I hope they read this!
  • 40 0
 They should make a Dj fork with 34mm stanchions and a 20mm axle.
  • 5 0
 The microlite could turn out to be a dialed weight weenie slalom race bike shock.
  • 4 0
 yeah they should make a 34mm dj fork with 20mm axle or short travel fr fork.. oh and of course a dual crown
  • 7 1
 Xfusion doing a dual crown goes without question. I've read countless rave reviews on the Vengeance, so I bet it'll be worth the wait.
  • 3 27
flag Rider656 (Feb 17, 2012 at 16:00) (Below Threshold)
 15mm is way better for xc/trail . This is the fork (34mm 26inch) of my dreams. Not too big, not small. I'm ready to shred it!!! Please make it 15 mm.
  • 38 1
 15mm has no advantages and is just a HUGE hassle for everyone else. It's retarded and needs to die.
  • 5 0
 @Rider656: Please explain how it's "WAY" better?
  • 4 0
 Its a little bit lighter and its close to the same strength. But I do agree. It needs to be 20mm. Its way more popular and it will appeal to the DJ market. And would be really light too. With 100mm and 120mm in the pin ladder it would be awesome.
  • 3 17
flag Rider656 (Feb 17, 2012 at 19:41) (Below Threshold)
 It's WAY better for XC/trail in the fact that's it's lighter. It not better for all mountain, rocky nar trails or big hucks! It's just stiff enough for nice flowy with a few rocks and medium size jumps! I love climbing on efficient bikes, not some big over weight crap. I also like to hit corners hits on flat fire roads and bunny hop a lot. So it that way, it's WAY better.
  • 3 10
flag Rider656 (Feb 17, 2012 at 19:56) (Below Threshold)
 The 32mm flex too much for my liking. I do ride very aggressive and climb with the same bike and think this fork is the perfect fit for me and the trails I ride. The 20mm is stiffer, but with 15mm the weight difference is worth the small sacrifice in stiffness. The only thing that throws it off is the 160mm travel. That much travel will be better with 20mm, I would only use 140 and 150 most of the time anyways. Having 160mm might be used only once in a while for a special race day (super d or DH race).

***Smaller axel means lighter weight
  • 10 0
 At the most, you're talking about 90 grams. That's the difference between DT 350 hubs and Maxle QRs if you look it up... It's cool you're fine with 15mm. I just want the 20mm option so I don't need to buy more wheels. I have a Revelation RLT Ti on a Trance X, but I'm glad RS made that fork with both for an option. (I went 20mm duh) Still, I believe 15mm only belongs on a true XC fork. 9mm should be eradicated from mountain bikes IMO.
  • 2 16
flag Rider656 (Feb 17, 2012 at 21:39) (Below Threshold)
 Maxie and DT hubs well okay... That's at little extreme and still heavier.
This is for my xc bike and I don't plan on shuttling it. Weight is not so much of a factor going downhill.

...and who the hell is negative propping me? You people all all ignorant on the topic and have no creditability!
  • 7 0
 Sorry, think you meant credibility
  • 3 9
flag Rider656 (Feb 18, 2012 at 0:15) (Below Threshold)
 Thanks. I'm typing all this from my iPhone and sometimes predictive text doesnt always work to my favor. My screen is also small and cracked.
  • 4 1
 15mm = 90g weight savings, appeals to modest rides who arent XC obsessed, the largest/most profitable MTB growth market... "only just started riding mate? but you go hard yeah? QR wont do, 15mm is what you need, 20mm is for freeriding crazy kids who cant afford new kit when it breaks or something shinier comes out"

20mm = extra burl on a 5-6in fork thats meant to be ridden hard, plus compatibility with the existing wheels that those riders have. potentially a strong, light, good performing yet cost effective fork for short travel aggressive disciplines, an option that doesnt really exist in this market where riders feels they're being ignored hence the "15mm must die!" vibe
  • 3 0
 Yeah I could see "qr must die" being reasonable since it is flexy and based on road bikes. 15mm does well to replace it. Most riders I know aren't worried about 90 grams in either direction. I am 20mm thru axel user myself but I ride a 170mm travel bike and do 5ft drops and have no money to replace broken stuff or pay the doctor.
Seems like the industry is realizing that a lot of riders need everything a bit stronger. I had a fox float with 150mm and it was too flexy when braking.
  • 3 0
 x-fusion 34mm VS fox 36 float for the dirt/street/park abuse crown. With a 20mm axle, this fork could be the perfect halfway house. Stoked!
  • 3 0
 To the argument above..... 9mm should not be made anymore for mtb. And there is almost no weight difference between 15mm and 20mm the axle has maybe a 60 gram difference. So why not just go 20mm????
  • 8 0
 20mm.
  • 1 11
flag Rider656 (Feb 19, 2012 at 22:06) (Below Threshold)
 15mm.
  • 2 0
 YES, 20mm for the Trace as well. Be the first company to put out a 140mm travel 29er fork with 34mm stanchions and 20mm TA the corner the market already.
  • 71 3
 Am I only the only one who chuckled at 34mm stanchions being called 'oversized'
  • 11 1
 no
  • 3 0
 I did lol lol and i still am lol lol lol lol lol
  • 5 0
 Yep... almost wanna link a pic of an old-school Super Monster on here!
  • 4 1
 34mm for XC/trail forks is pretty big considering boxxers are 35mm
  • 1 1
 I see these as being for aggressive am what the boxxer is for dh: lighter but less stiff. Certain riders will love it for super d and enduro but others will stick with the stiffer offerings. I'd do it if I was racing enduro on a lighter trail rig.
  • 29 1
 Y U NOOO MAKE DUALLL CROWWN???? In all seriousness though x-fusion has been kicking ass so far, i would love to see what they could do in regards to the downhill market.
  • 4 0
 They've got one in the works... just wait Wink
  • 26 0
 the shocks must be ridiculously annoying to install with that slippery coating Wink
  • 3 1
 like soap in the shower.
  • 5 1
 like catching a greased up pig
  • 3 1
 Apparently they come with ultra-grip gloves. Okay I made that up. But maybe they should
  • 25 0
 I just hope X fusion will maintain their excellent value. They seem to make products that won't rape the wallet.
  • 6 0
 Thats why there going to do so well!
  • 2 18
flag NezcorNek (Feb 17, 2012 at 22:43) (Below Threshold)
 Isn't xfusion owned by Tomac bikes? I went to tomacs website and all the bikes have Fox. They can't sell bikes with that cheap suspension. Why would anyone buy a top of the line bike and put the cheapest suspension on it. Plus, look at the xfusion product line. It is very clear that they put no time into the design of anything. The forks and shocks are just plain and awful looking. Since no one really buys this stuff that I know, I have not been able to feel how they work. The two things I have felt where horrible. I have seen the seatpost disassembled, and it looked like something you would get from Walmart. Poor Lopes. He use to be able to ride any product out there, now look at what he is stuck on.
  • 7 0
 Man your an idiot. You clearly have no knowledge of your products. X-fusion is fantastic.
  • 3 0
 My buddy got an xfusion rear shock and said it rocked. Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. I think they look very similar asteticly to all the major stuff on the market. Nezcarnek may want to ask himself why he thinks something looks cool. Is it because the pros rock it? Is it because it is trendy? I prefer function to determine the form. For example: fake wind scoops on cars = lame. wind scoops to cool brakes or supply cold air for the engine looks cool.
That said the orange coatIng of kashima and its knockoffs is hard to look at so I guess I'm a hypocrite
  • 1 0
 X-Fusion definitely has their own unique products so I wouldn't say they look similar to everyone else on the market. But they're still, and have been, coming out with some really good, solid designs. I'm loving my Velour for dirt jumping and I can't wait for X-Fusion to release this 34mm fork. Hopefully it's not too heavy!
  • 16 0
 X fusion really hittin the mark with the new products! A good cross test will tell how they preform against the usual choices of forks
  • 3 0
 certainly making a serious attempt at it now aren't they ! good on em and fair play, it's going to be good to get another player in the market, hopefully the products landing are competitive and there are British after sales service centres ! there is only 1 shock i am interested in for now though - CCDB AIR - unless some other company shows me something better.
  • 12 0
 You mean instead of paying big extra dollas to get gold on my forks or shock to pick up ladies or for telling people it'l make me ride faster I can get it for free with X-Fusion? I mean everyone knows that if you rolled up to a race with your frame/forks/rims/shifters... etc all coated in Goldy goodness you'd get maximum girls and automatically win the race... basic logic.
  • 13 0
 Another vote for the 20mm axle on the 26" 34! This isn't a cross country fork and will be ridden hard on tough terrain.
  • 1 4
 But 15mm should be plenty tough enough considering these aren't meant for FR. Of course 1 standard would be nice for wheel selection.
  • 2 1
 15 is good tho cause its pretty easy to alter your 20mm hub to suit the 15mm axle.
  • 11 0
 34mm, adjustable from 140 to 160mm, 20mm axle, 1.8kg, if the fork works well, PERFECTION!!!!
  • 6 0
 Great products. Now to do something about the Graphic treatment. While it isnt the only thing that matters, presentation and brand identity do help a lot in the marketplace. Perhaps with all of this progression, it might be time for a refresh.
  • 4 11
flag domino0 (Feb 17, 2012 at 1:40) (Below Threshold)
 Yes and with shocks that have gold coating not only on the sliding part but also on the air can, makes their shocks look even more like Fox - which is not going to gain them any sales...
  • 9 1
 If it performs just as well and it's competitor, you go for the cheaper one, when you have some left over cash to spice up something else Wink
  • 1 1
 @ domino0

I'd think that it'd boost their sales. Basically, they're offering a similar option to compete with Fox' Kashima, which- if all you see is the ads, you'd think Kashima's the only thing that makes the suspension. If X-Fusion's is as good, or even if it's only within the ballpark of being as good, it's going to sell comparatively better because it's a 'free upgrade', as opposed to Fox, where adding the Kashima coat seems to boost the price an additional 25%.

Of course, that's only with a glance at a few retailer's price sheets...
  • 5 1
 I think the fox style anodizing of the shock body with the same stuff at the stantion is a bit lame. The same with the Marzocchi shock that was featured in an article the other day. I'd rather see something that stands out from it's competition in the aesthetic department than a shock that, at a glance, I could easily mistake for an RP23. Not got anything against X-Fusion and I'd like to see some reviews of their stuff or try it, just think they shouldn't have bummed Fox's finishing style so much.
  • 8 0
 Personally, i think the coating on the air can looks tacky as f*ck (whether it's fox or x-fusion). Keep it on the slider...
  • 2 1
 Yeah, I don't think it looks that great either. Probably makes you faster though...
  • 6 0
 The can has to be coated as well because not only the stanchion requires the treatment, but also the inside of the can. To coat the inside of the can, the whole can needs to be submerged, hence why the outside is coated as well.
  • 1 1
 I see, that makes sense. Thanks.
  • 2 2
 ah right fair enough, i still don't think it looks nice though Razz
  • 1 1
 Its a good way for them to keep prices lower... Wink
  • 5 0
 the micro shock looks alot like the shock in a Specialized Epic. and the best part about x-fusion isnt mentioned yet.. I cant wait to see the pricing for all this goodness.
  • 7 0
 Is gold the only slick color out there?
  • 6 0
 Black coatings should be brought back!
  • 5 0
 I'm glad Marzocchi is still sticking to black stanchions
  • 2 0
 Yes, black is dope!
  • 5 0
 all collours are nice if they are black Wink
  • 1 1
 marz was doing some other colors right? My bike would look good with blue or read.
  • 2 0
 Yeah but that was only some limited edition, as I know.

unfortunately... Frown
  • 2 0
 hell ya, my 55 and dj1 i bought with black stanchions. propably getting 888 next to replace the dh fork! love marzocchi
  • 3 0
 I like that Pinkbike went and hit up Marzocchi, X-Fusion and Fox recently. I know this is a sneak-peek write-up but the writing style concerns me. Reads just like a press-release, which was a criticism of "Mountain Bike Action". When you (Pinkbike) get some ride time and do a more in-depth write-up, please be objective. I'm starting to seriously consider X-Fusion (which I never would've just about a year ago). I hope some demo days come up so I can try it for myself.
  • 3 0
 WAKI- there's a fun way to remedy that & keep your Nomad. Buy a 26djer and set it up ss or 4X for flowy runs and a little bmx track time! stand and pedal and ride like a kid again while picking up or discovering lost skills again. I use 20s and 26dj at the track with my son and it is pure stoke! you won't regret it! link reconnected guarantee. I alternate my enduro with a 5yr old blkmrkt mob at local trails all the time.
  • 2 0
 I am designing a ht at the moment, a mix of xc bike with dj with possibility to go SS. The trouble is I have no BMX track around (though I would kill for one) and trails I have are very tough for SS. But I will give it a try. Small pumptrack that my friends have buiöt, taught me a lot. I think pumptrack is the best training a mtber can get. Trains skills, hip strength, mobility and is an amazing cardio workout. Win win win more win situation Smile Cheers!
  • 5 1
 lol I totally saw them test riding that new coating. I didnt think anything of it until the guy refused to tell me anything about it...

INB4COOLSTORYBRO
  • 2 0
 I would love to see the new 34mm fork in a 80-100 travel dirt jump version with bold-on or 15 thru axle. Weight around 4 pounds or so. I feel the Velvet's might be a little too lightweight for me or are they plenty strong for a big guy who might case a big jump every once in a while?
  • 2 0
 I can verify that, we have a few riders on the velvet for DJ and Street riding the velvet... Both have shown Stress marks right underneath the socket. But when they ride forks as oten and hard as Elliot Andal does, you are bound to see issues. X Fusion makes an amazing product, this system is ideal with the deeper socket and larger 34mm stansions, this fork will be a force on the market. Should come in a 20mm axel system if it is going to be aimed for 8 inch rotor systems. I would not hesitate to recommend ANY X Fusion fork.
  • 6 0
 As others have said, please keep the 20mm.
  • 2 0
 If you increase the rake in the suspension (lower head angle) you want to increase the offset, as apposed to decreasing it as indicated in the article (look at the offset on a pair of fox 40s designed for slack angles relative to a pair of 32s designed for much sharper angels). what they probably have done was move the offset form the foot to the crown, resulting in better loading of the suspension with less twist in the stantions, therefore less friction at the bushes and, theoretically better suspension performance.
  • 3 0
 MeAlex is right, but that is true only if you wanted to maintain an equal amount of trail for each head angle. With head angles as slack as 67 degrees, I don't think adding trail (less offset) will add straight-line stability - the HA alone produces overwhelming stability - but it still will affect how the bike turns into a corner, and I think that is reason enough for experimenting. Offset/trail has been overlooked for a long time among fork makers. Also, half of the offset on most forks (DC or SC) is in the mild V formed by the placement if the stanchions and steerer in the crown. The X-Fusion dropout offset may simply be a compensation for additional offset in the crown. Nice call MeAlex!
RC.
  • 2 0
 Again, correct me if i am wrong but yes, at high speed a slack head angle would give stability, i.e. turn the bars left, the wheel presents its right face forward to the right of the fulcrum around the head tube, resultant force at the contact patch between wheel and ground pushes bars straight - negative feedback .'. stable, but at low speed a slack head angle would have the opposite effect, i.e. turn bars left, contact patch moved to the right of fulcrum, resultant force at contact patch straight up and irrelevant, resultant force around the fulcrum tries to turn the bars left more - positive feedback .'. unstable, in both cases effects exasperated by slacker head angles but decreased by increased offset. without doing science i cant say whether increasing offset would be a good or bad thing overall but yeah, i agree offset is something oft overlooked and something i think it would be interesting to experiment with.
  • 2 0
 I'm so stoked on X Fusion. I ordered on of their Velour's 2 years back for my Trail bike to replace the Marzo that blew up, thinking it would be a "good enough" replacement. Totally blown away by the quality of that fork. And they seem to just keep getting better. This is awesome for us consumers. Fox, Rock Shox, Marzo, you're on notice
  • 4 0
 i like the fact that theres no extra charge for the slick coating! go xfusion!
  • 3 0
 I don't think I've ever seen an X fusion press release where they've made a decision I didn't agree with, and this is no different. Everything looks excellent, as per usual!
  • 1 0
 I think when the jury is in on the Vector Air rear Dh shock, X fusion will have the only option that will compete directly with the Chair. I talked with one of their pro riders at Bootleg this weekend who is adamant that it out performs his previous rc4!
  • 1 0
 That was a funny auto correct! DBair, not chair. Ha!
  • 1 0
 The 15mm vs 20mm argument is no longer valid, most hubs now are convertable and while Im a 20mm ta fan Ive been running a Float 34 with 15mm ta and its been awesome as good as any 20mm hub clamp interface, I am looking at running XFusion in 2013 and this model I belive is now called the Slant [my idealsetup at 150mm] is on the list as is the Vengence [my ideal setup,170mm] XFusion Is no doubt a serious player and its great for us as a consumer to see a brand listening to the market instead of pushing average damped forks and shocks atleast theyres another good option.
  • 1 1
 X-Fusion and PinkBike are killing me with all of this news this week. I just ordered a 2011 Velvet last week!!! But on the plus side, I am thrilled to see someone stepping up and challenging RS and Fox; Their prices have become unreal and yearly upgrades are a thing of the past. The Trace looks promising... You may have just convinced me to pick up an Intense Tracer 29er next year (let's just hope I can convince my wife.) Keep up the good work guys. I look forward to being a loyal customer.
  • 1 0
 So good to see some coverage of xfusion they are such a great company love their products all around and they really give the high end companies a run for their money litteraly
  • 1 1
 nezcornec youre serously an idiot for real!!and second of all ive been riding x fusion since the beginning and theyve came along ways what other compant offrs a 130 mm travel air fork that well under 4 pounds for 300 bucks and is buttery smooth (velour) i paid 248 for mine and man that fork ws awsome and i tried to sell it for 150 nd everyone is like x fusion no way ill give u 75 well just wait fox and marz better pull a rabbit out of there hat because x fusion is playin with the big dogs now!!!any one on this page strap a velvet on there bike and go rip it in any scenario and lets ee how many negative things come out i bet about 10% and those wold just be haters from the fox momy and dady paid for it club.but here in the real world were money means something ill only ride x fusion there forks are the shit and have never once in 3 years had one single problem not even had a seal change nothing there forks are bomb!straight up and i will continue to ride x f and in the very near future people will realize what theyve ben missing and foox wont be doing so well with those big price tags and marz either marz needs to go on a diet.less weight,more stability,cheaper price u tell me what people are going to buy super slippy slimy stuff that looks like fox or not buy an x fusion and find out for youreself this shits legit and im stoked that its getting even better.i own 5 x fusion forks and when i see even the fox logo i laugh its just a joke the rices they charge for less weight and so called better erformance well i dont think so check the specs on all the x-f forks and the price tags as well.once that double crown comes out this company will explode.the only concerni have for x fusion is are they going to get gready or are they going to stay budget freindly and keep the prices affordable i just hope they dont jump on the bandwagen and start charging cray amounts for that light weight and less flex fork either way they get my vote
  • 1 0
 Im sorry but i'm not going to read that...
  • 2 0
 Someone care to tell me what Shimano disc brake that is on the 2013 34mm fork?
  • 2 0
 looks like an older model Deore XT caliper to me. Check the catalogs from about three years ago. I don't know about the other guy but Brian Lopes is a major weight weenie so mix and match components to get the bike lighter is all the norm for him. With shimano especially, but other brands as well... the lightest component isn't always the newest model year or the highest group level of component.
  • 3 0
 Isn't the orange Ibis Brian Lopes' bike, not the black with the 2013 fork?
  • 2 0
 Yes... hence my saying "I don't know about the other guy but..."
  • 2 0
 sorry, I misunderstood that Smile
  • 1 1
 Why is the new fork crown design lower... ?
To create a gap between the 29 and 26er forks, so you will have to buy a special 650b fork... In the old 26er fork a 650b wheel would fit easy.
  • 2 0
 Pretty much yes, but to run a 650B in their older version 26 forks required a travel limiter be installed that robbed 10mm out of the compression stroke range (to prevent the tire hitting the crown), for whatever "setting" of travel you configured the pin system into. If you set it for say, 100mm of travel, the bottom out limiter meant you actually only got 90mm when it was installed. When you buy the velvet preset for 650Bs, its usually configured for maximum length/travel, which because of the bottom out spacer meant only 120mm travel out of the fork that you'd get 130mm with if you ran a 26" wheel.

The only forks that don't need such a bottom out spacer to be installed are ones with both brace AND crown clearance to clear a 26 x 2.7 tire, such as the X-Fusion Vengence models, or the older Rockshox Psylo models, or various other FR/DH type singlecrown and dual crown forks.
  • 2 0
 Nice looking forks!let's hope there abit more reasonably priced than fox and rockshox
  • 1 0
 it's a bit early to tell, but if this 34 mm fork can be lowered to 100 mm i gess a lot of people will give up to the lowered fox 36 float for dirt jumping.
  • 3 0
 sombody needs to invest in some flush cuts for those zip ties
  • 3 1
 Gonna be long year or so waiting for these to hit the market, but it will be the perfect fit for my Mojo SL
  • 2 0
 The lower legs looks very similar to Specialized E160TA and the axle on photos is probably 20mm maxle.
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 Shee-yat has hit the fan Fox, RS and Marzo! Big Grin Some jaws have grown big and are aiming to take a huge bite in your customer cake. I guess Fox will be most concerned as unlike Marzo and RS they have virtualy no "base segment" products, so they suffer loosing every top-end-stuff-oriented customer way more. And this X-Fusion stuff says qualitAE.
  • 4 0
 This can only be good, because - theoretically - if they come close to Fox in quality and technology (and I think it's only matter of time), Fox will have to make their products:
a) even better, with new (shinier) technology = more expensive, still losing costumers
b) cheaper... nah, that won't work.
  • 9 1
 Lehel-NS, no matter FOX, or high end carbon road bike for 10 000$ - price isn't putting people off, there are many that are after luxurious stuff, many that want to have what others don't have, that want to stand out. Companies actualy put it to you. Fox said that one of the good thigns to make this Factory Tune thing they do is so you stand out on trail, so thanks to these gold stickers others can see that you bought this special thing. It's one of main business mantras: we are fed with so much of such marketing bullshit that we no longer see nothing wrong with it, we actualy believe that's how the world works and how it should work. Too bad it is promoting what is called "vain personality" and it is a pretty stinky quality a of human character. Usualy downgraded with the word "pimp".

I don't mean all people buying high end stuff are like that, some buy it because they believe these are sustainable products that are going to hold for years, instead of buying whatever disposable thing. I am attacking filthy business as usual.
  • 2 4
 No body touches fox in the quality department. Like waki said. there's always a high end market, and that's what fox aims for. So i dont see x fusion taking any of fox's market share.
  • 2 1
 I agree with Z-man. I've been telling everyone about X-Fusion ever since a friend dropped some info on me and most people reply "yeah, but it isn't a Fox." Now this might be because I live in China and most people here care more about brand recognition than value, but it's still a problem X-Fusion will have to overcome. At the end of the day people can buy what they want, but I guarantee that having a fox on your ride isn't going to stop me from passing you on the trail. X-Fusion FTW!!!
  • 2 0
 I think X-Fusion is more than welcome to provide a little perspective and if it will only make anough good reviews, it will make people think why to spend so much money on one of big 3.

The worst scenario is: it will push the big 3 to introduce even more expensive stuff that already seems overdone for the needs of the average Joe (I refer to skills, not wallet size). For Fox there seem to be no turning back.
  • 4 0
 Fox may have top tier performance, but they have already priced themselves out of the range of a lot of young riders, especially with super short service intervals. The young rippers who's parents aren't rich are currently riding RS and marz. Now add x-fu at fox's performance level to that list and fox loses a lot of future clients. Rolls Royce may still sell cars, but most people will never even see one.
  • 3 0
 "Rolls Royce may still sell cars, but most people will never even see one."

Also, most people will rather have a BMW than a Rolls Royce.
  • 5 2
 Mike D & Haudawg STRAIGHT BOSSIN' IT AT XFUSION YEWWWWWWW
  • 3 0
 WOW that 34 mm fork would be great on a Jekyll
  • 2 0
 Or pretty much on any other bike. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 it´s looks like they have taken a Ctrl C from the Fox and pasted it on the X-fusion Shox Big Grin
  • 2 0
 34mm should be a nice middle ground for people putting the velvet on their DJ bikes.
  • 4 0
 KEEP THE 20MM!!!!!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 now marzocchi has a similar golden coating, fox and x-fusion have kashima. what is rock shox going to do?
  • 2 0
 how is that anything like kashima?
  • 2 0
 a protective friction reducing coating isn't anything like kashima? Then what is kashima for?
try this link if you don't get keronite: www.powdertech.co.uk/keronite.html
  • 2 0
 just keep the prices well below competitors and people won't hesitate to use an X-fusion.
  • 2 0
 When will RS use keronite on it's AM and XC forks? They have it on the boxxer wc kero
  • 1 0
 Anybody think they haven't decided what stanchion size to go with for the dual crown? I'm really curious what they will go with.
  • 2 0
 RAD, A Kashima Fox/SR Suntour knockoff! Go X-Fusion
  • 1 0
 Id like to have that shock on my jamis 650b2. Too bad they don't make 650 forks
  • 1 1
 and buy the way x fusion ''i like the kashima looking slippery coat who cares if it looks like fox it will remind people what they used to look like once they go under''lmao
  • 2 0
 X-fusion, Y U NO make a 180mm fork??
  • 2 0
 i love x-fution. but whats up with a 150mm fork?
  • 1 0
 They can be spacer'd
  • 2 0
 ble wrong post delete ta bort
  • 1 2
 Those guys are doing a great job with the new improvements and fork upgrades, but they should focus more on the appearance of it...THAT FORK LOOKS LIKE MY OLD SR SUNTOUR...S.H.I.T.!
  • 2 1
 If they're going to put Kashima on their rear shocks they need to put it on their forks too.
  • 2 0
 kashima never was exclusive for fox. kowa had it years before
  • 3 3
 are you sure that coating isnt kashmire because it looks just like it haha probs it it with one tiny differance Razz
  • 5 0
 Kashima isn't a fox only product, its just an industrial coating that Fox managed to market well to make us believe it was. I dare say this is the same thing.
  • 2 0
 Or they could use a coating that is similar to Kashima?
  • 3 0
 Its probably kashima coating. All Fox got was a short term exclusive license to use the stuff on BICYCLE suspension forks and shocks first, not a license to use it exclusively forever.
  • 1 1
 Good to see x fusion stepping up there game but I still think there stuff still looks a little cheap
  • 1 4
 There stuff looks cheap because they are made by SR Suntour.
  • 2 0
 20mm axle or go home!
  • 1 0
 nice
  • 1 0
 im in love
  • 1 0
 Mmmmm... tasty.
  • 1 1
 the black one looks like a Rock shox judy...
  • 1 3
 Of course it looks cheap, SR Suntour is the company they have make all there product. Nothing good has come from them.
  • 1 3
 Not to be rude but, Ive seen so many X-Fusion shocks either snap or fail.... how about they make them so they don't break?
  • 2 4
 hmmm... I wonder what coating it is?
  • 10 1
 ...everyone and their coating hype. I guarantee you, you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test. I'll admit that it looks more high-quality, since most cheap bikes come with chrome stanchions, but c'mon people. Take it for what it is.
  • 8 3
 Maybe you couldn't tell the difference but the numbers on a dyno don't lie.
  • 6 1
 Like fat Oprah and skinny Oprah
  • 12 1
 I think MTBers are a faaaaar too concerned about what the numbers in the lab say... the trail is as far from lab conditions as it can get... it's like taking Formula One to World Rally track... or when it comes to average rider skills using all this high tech - like ape landing a 747...
  • 4 0
 i think they are far too concerned because most of us bikers are mechanics or enjoy mechanics in some way and a lot of people find it interesting to see what can be done to make something better and make it tweak able to make is as best as it could be.
  • 3 1
 ZOMG ANOTHER SUPERSLICK COATING!!!!


lubrication > coating
  • 1 0
 i just always buy parts according to my current skill level and then adjust according to which one starts sucking more. pretty simple. it will be interesting if x-fusion can maintain their pricing/value to be really competitive with the big boys or if these changes also forces them towards the marketing dollar.
  • 3 0
 IF you want a kashima coating applied to your fork uppers or shock shafts, here's one that can apply them aftermarket....

www.mb1suspension.com/id18.html
  • 5 0
 I am seriously considering selling my Nomad and going back to a hardtail (sorry these days you must specify it - a 26" hardtail) to hone some skills... I feel I need to get back to the roots, tech has separated me from nature. I changed from clipless to flats for everything, including XC, and it was such a refreshment, I gained some new skills. The thing is: when you buy into that stuff you start to believe more in it, and less in yourself. I have those stupid thoughts when riding HT: oh I'll take it easier now, I'm on a bad fork and have no dropper post, I can't ride it as fast as on Nomad. Sure I can't but still... some confidence, some link is lost.
  • 1 0
 waki-replied to ya up above..sorry
  • 3 1
 it's kashima. lol @ all the fox's exclusiveness bullshit.
  • 1 0
 I doubt its the same as kashima but its probs pretty close, its is a proven technology from motosports to the bike world so it comes to no surprise that other companies might want to follow along.
  • 1 4
 The forks would even be better if they worked! I tried one out and it last about a month.
  • 6 0
 I doubt that very much (you said previously that you blew a seal after 2 months and a blown seal doesn't equal a broken fork, but if you insist it is broken I will give $20 for it). And if you did somehow manage to break it, I doubt X-Fusion's customer service would have failed to help you out. I read nearly every review I could find and 98% of people praised the product and the customer service.
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