Absolute Black Oval Guide - Review

Dec 21, 2016
by Olly Forster  
Absolute Black Oval Chainring Review

If you're already familiar with oval chainrings, then you probably know that a regular chainguide system will struggle to cope with the peculiarly shaped sprocket bolted to your ride. And, if you're reading this and wondering what the hell an 'oval chainring' is, RC put one through the grinder last year and you can read his review here.

As one of the first brands to champion the benefits of ovalized chainrings, Absolute Black now have a chainguide to match, designed in partnership with chainguide specialists, 77Designz. We've been hammering the miles into one for the last few months to see how it fared...

Oval Guide Details:

• ISCG 05 mount
• Articulated outriggers
• Compatible with any 1x10, 1x11 or 1x12 drivetrain with AB oval or round chainring
• 48-53mm (Boost compatible) by every 0.5mm using 4 spacers (included)
• 26-34T Oval or 28-36T Round
• Backplate: 7075 aluminium, Cage: GF + PA66 polymer composite, Bolts: Titanium Torx T25
• MSRP: $62.95 USD
www.absoluteblack.cc


Absolute Black Oval Chainring Review
Less is certainly more with the Oval Guide and...
Absolute Black Oval Guide Ring Review 2016
...once on and correctly set up, it's tool-free.


Given the superb chain management on offer from a chainring with a narrow-wide tooth profile, why develop a chainguide at all? Simply put, a chainguide offers additional security that for some riders, especially those who frequently find themselves on faster, rougher trails, view as a necessity. After all, who wouldn't want additional peace of mind, especially if it only weighs 19 grams (no hardware). But until recently, finding a chainguide that would work well with an oval ring was no mean feat. Thankfully the solution didn't require a drastic redesign of the humble chainguide.

Increasing the drop of the top guide would allow it to accommodate a chainring that rises and falls as it rotates (see gif below), solving the problem and keeping the chain neatly in place. Innovative or not, that didn't stop the team at Absolute Black from cramming some interesting features in all the same.

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In the workshop and on the trail

After familiarizing myself with the manual and all the parts installing the Oval Guide took just a few minutes. With the back plate bolted directly to the ISCG 05 tabs on your frame (thankfully no spacers here) you just need to measure your chain line, which for this application is the distance between the center point on your chainring to the outside edge of the Oval Guide's backplate. In the box, you have four spacers to play with: a 0.5mm, 1mm, 2mm and a 3.5mm spacer. With your chain line distance determined, a quick glance at the manual will tell you the spacer configuration.

The spacers slip on to the back of the top bolt via a tear-drop shaped design and are then sandwiched between the top guide and the back plate. With the correct configuration of spacers installed and everything torqued up, all that's left is to set the height of the top guide in accordance with your chainring size. If you're running a regular 'round' chainring, you have to go up two teeth, so you can only run between a 26 and 34-tooth oval chainring and between a 28 and 36-tooth round chainring.


Absolute Black Oval Chainring Review
The Oval Guide is more than just a chainguide for oval chainrings.


On the bike and on the trail, the chainguide did its job without any issues, but then what else was it going to do? It has no moving parts and provided you follow the assembly instructions to a tee and have everything nipped everything up (the three bolts) to the correct torque settings, what could go wrong? The chain could come off, but it didn't budge, after all, the Oval Guide is loosely based on a design which has been around for years, and for good reason - it works. For me, the only chink in its armor is a lack of protection from below in the shape of a bashguard, but Absolute Black have recently added such a guide to their line with other options to suit frames without ISCG tabs.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIf you're a fast rider, competing and frequenting rough terrain or someone who regularly finds their drivetrain clogged with crap, a chainguide to accompany your narrow-wide chainring is a wise move for that extra peace-of-mind. And at just over 20 grams and just over 60 bucks, Absolute Black's Oval Guide isn't going to upset the scales any more than your bank balance. While it will tick a big box for the oval ring convert looking for additional "chain management," it's also a neat little upgrade for any rider looking for a great chainguide that happens to weigh next to nothing. - Olly Forster



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133 Comments

  • + 107
 If you've been drinking or are trippin' on something you may not want to stare too long at that photo sequence.
  • + 23
 Should have read this before..
  • + 10
 Rounded Rhombus and Skewed Ellipse are drinks at my local tavern.
  • + 38
 Looks like the OneUp one that's been out for ages:

www.pinkbike.com/news/oneup-chain-guide-review-2016.html
  • + 9
 The oneup is way more classier, and advanced design. And used by EWS World Champion. The oneup guide arm raises and lowers below the guide. Looking clean. This looks ugly to me. And brittle.
  • + 17
 This was came my mind too. I use the OneUp since one year on my bike...
  • - 4
flag Raffe (Dec 21, 2016 at 22:33) (Below Threshold)
 @RedRedRe: @RedRedRe: Seriously? They look almost identical to me??? And I know you raise and lower the AbsoluteBlack as well.
  • - 2
 @RedRedRe: ive seen many a one up guide explode in races. These little fragile guides aren't for me.
  • - 1
 @sicmoto: Yeah - amazed that someone could accuse this of being "brittle" and suggest the OneUp as an alternative. OneUp guides that I've seen have been pretty poor quality - the direct mount one in particular is a flexy, plastic eie of junk
  • + 4
 The OneUp is actually a rip off of the original manufacturer of Absolut Blacks's guides, 77designz.com.
  • + 2
 It does not work well with an oval ring. There is enough space when the ring is at the least t-count for the chain to slip - happened a few times. I am sure it is working perfectly with a standard ring though.
  • + 0
 You people just dont have a clue of what your talking about. Show evidence of the guides "exploding". You don't get the difference in funcionailty btw the two guides? If you run a 28 ring on the one up guide, the "arm" does not extend above the guide. On other guides, the arm will be sticking out a few cm.
One up guard is not a copy of 77 designz lol... it may be a copy of Paul chainguide.
77 designz stuff is poorly designded.
  • + 8
 @sicmoto: How do you explode a chainguide? I mean, how is that even possible?
  • + 4
 @RedRedRe: one up bash guide Is the shit
  • + 3
 why is everyone voting down DrFlow's comment?! Just because OneUp certainly has some cool stuff doesn't mean he's wrong. The 77 designz freesolo has been on the market since Juny 2014 with the oval guide following the year after. OneUp has presented their chainguide 2015 and the oval version 2016. Get over it, fanboys.

Btw, I've been using the combination of the absolute black chainring with the 77 designs oval guide and their bash guard. Flawless function at 50 grams in total.
  • - 1
 @MatthewCarpenter: I just downvote everything for the sake of it. Your comment included.
  • + 0
 @kopaczus: OK. I was racing in Ireland this year. My friend had a one-up guide on. Stage 4 the guide section cracked and the mounting plate bent. I don't know why you would buy a flimsy guide when for a few quid more you could have a decent one from Hope or the like. My 2 cents.
  • + 17
 Why is the animation going the wrong way...?
  • + 5
 The marketing people they hire don't ride bike and have no clue lol
  • + 5
 ...To show how well it prevents those chain drops you get from backpedaling...?
  • + 34
 @OFF2theGYM - Glitch in the matrix. It should be spinning clockwise now.
  • + 36
 You need to try and realize the truth. It is not the animation that is spinning the wrong way. It is yourself.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: All is now right in the world!
  • - 2
 @scottzg: if you need a chain guide to prevent the chain dropping while backpedaling... you are in the wrong sport.
  • + 1
 That is one of those nifty perception things like the Magic Eye pictures. It seems to flip back and forth for me. Forward then backwards. Weird effect. I suspect is has to do with the number of frames per second. If you watch the teeth, it goes backwards. If you watch the spider web it goes forward.
  • + 2
 Maybe we are on the wrong side of the equator?
  • + 1
 @bbeak: No man, read the mods above comment. They had the animation wrong.
  • + 2
 Because you're high?
  • + 1
 you must have your computer plugged in backwards
  • + 12
 I can't buy AB stuff... they have too many false claims on their site... last i have read: "we have been making oval chainring for years"... meaning 1.5 years?
I dont even know where to start with all the other bs... they just took a rotor ring, and changed it a little bit... AB owner is all over the Internet, accusing other companies of copying their ring-lol lol lol--- just what AB did with rotor rings... still have to see all the "universities reaserch" done in "years". And still have to see a picture of any if these guys riding a bike.
Maybe they should check their site for facts "our ring makes you faster! Lightest ring! Most adanced! 12 months warranty!" Etc etc
They continuously bash on every other company-and all they have to show is a bad copy of a rotor ring.
For sure they spent €€€ on designing their website and hiring a good advertising agency.
  • + 14
 The aparent owner was on one-ups bashing their new 30t oval and how one up constantly copies them.
  • + 1
 Whatevs big red. I own one of their oval rings and this guide with the bash guard included. Love their stuff. Love their site. We'd need a separate forum and another decade to discuss marketing in the bike industry. I'm sure we could all troll that thread for decades.
  • + 1
 @WasatchEnduro: you are wrong. Marketing / advertising is suppose to fairly rappresent a product. All i read on their site is bs and and insult to anybody with any sort of brain. And they go around bashing other companies. All they have done was a copy of the rotor ring. They can't backup any of their claims.
  • - 6
flag RedRedRe (Dec 21, 2016 at 20:54) (Below Threshold)
 People can downvote whatever they like, i stand right and i know what i am talking about.
  • + 8
 @RedRedRe:

Butt hurt over non round chainrings..... just another cold winters night on Pinkbike. Gotta love it.
  • + 11
 Agreed, an owner with narcism who projects all the BS into his products.
  • - 4
flag RedRedRe (Dec 22, 2016 at 3:28) (Below Threshold)
 @WasatchEnduro: it is not about oval rings. Learn how to read. It is about jacks, like yourself.
  • - 2
 @RedRedRe:

Big Red hates AB and nobody will change his(?) mind. Take that world!

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumb ass!
  • + 7
 @WasatchEnduro: I dont stand behind companies that treat costumers as idiots. And lie and talk down competitors. That is the point. All their claims are fake, do you understand that? Do you understand the stuff they write on their site is written by a professional copywriter that has noting to do with riding bikes? Buying from AB equals considering yourself an idiot that believes anything you read/are told. Their product may be good or not, regardless they are full of crap.
  • + 9
 @RedRedRe: There is an obscene amount of self love and BS on the Absolute Black website:

"The world's most sought after Oval chainrings"
"We produce the highest quality, beautifully designed and engineered oval chainrings on the market with impeccable attention to detail"

Who writes this stuff?! - You would think they are revolutionising the world or creating some amazing never seen before products, not simple products like chainrings and guides that have all been done before in some way or another.

Its a simple case of marketing but dispite this they seem to attack others that 'copy' from them even though all of AB's products are copies anyway with small changes.
  • + 4
 @RedRedRe:

Little Red, not everyone hinges upon every word of marketing speak that is written on a website. We consumers don't go home and feel better about our purchases by visiting a website and re-reading all the claims. I like their stuff. And their site doesn't cause me to have a conniption fit or seizures as it does for you. Your hatred is misguided. Do you work for a competitor or something?
  • - 5
flag WasatchEnduro (Dec 22, 2016 at 10:29) (Below Threshold)
 @Racer951:

Racer9er, it sounds like you need some self love....... or maybe just a hug.

In fact, why don't you and Big Red get together and talk about how horrible AB is, then give each other a hug and be happy already.

I'm going to go ride my oval ring in the snow now..... sorry, you guys aren't invited.
  • + 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Good for you old boy. I dont usually associate 'self love' wih bike parts, men and riding oval rings in the snow but whatever blows your trumpet.... Have fun out there darling ;-)
  • + 1
 Quite interesting when I mentioned to AB the oval chainring rubs on lower gear no other adjustments it's TREK issue not his. Solution filed the inner guide down for it to work better in a new Slash29.
  • + 10
 This oval chainring is from Poland and its great .. using it on my XC bike with 9sp cassete and with a 10sp chain (was recommended by Absolute) using a 34 toth and it feels like you have a 30/32 chainring. Its my first use of oval chainring ever and feels pretty great on pedaling and etc .. i have HT but when you buy this on any enduro it will helps you to gain moore power when you stand on bike and pedal to hill

Apologizes for my english please hope you will understand this
  • + 12
 Not sure which hurts my eyes more, oval chain ring or red chain ring on orange bike.
  • + 8
 Its a flipping chain guide for f's sake. Nothing revolutionary and nothing which the real chainguide company's e13 and MRP don't already make. Olly can I sell you a toaster made specifically for English muffins?? Come on?!??
  • + 20
 Yep, it's the crank and chain ring that are revolutionary, the chain guide is stationary Smile

IGMC
  • + 6
 I keep wondering which one to get: AB oval or OneUp oval

I need one for a 11 speed SLX crank (new bolt pattern), and honestly, both versions look exactly the same as far as ovality goes.

Does anyone know which brand started producing ovals first? I'm not saying one of them just copied the other one's design but it kind of helps on the decision.

The machining on the AB is a thing of beauty though.
  • + 10
 Linley and Biggs in 1890 (really).
  • + 1
 I get the one that is in stock in the tooth size I need. Both companies go out of stock fairly quickly.
  • + 2
 Actually I prefer wolftooth components rings, their tooth profile help shed grime and mud and make cleaning a lot easier than the standard narrow wide. www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/elliptical
  • + 4
 For "oval" rings, rotor has been doing it for the past 10 years at least. I guess. Wt, ab and 1up are pretty much the same as far as shape. Rode the ab and 1up back to back and cant tell a difference. However the best non round rings i had a chance to ride are Ari - which has been producing non round rings before ab, 1up and wt. Or however i prefer the shape used by the italian and french makers as carbon ti, cruel, ari, frm, pmp etc.
  • + 0
 @Deartist7 AB has been doing oval rings for maybe 1.5 years. WT and 1up pretty much the same.
  • + 1
 I think they differ on how pronounced the oval is. Some are more oval than others. I had the AB and really liked it until I sold that bike. Definlty getting another one.
  • + 10
 Buy One Up, WT, SS, or save some money and get one from www.workscomponents.co.uk/chainrings--cogs-19-c.asp

The guy who owns AB is an absolute idiot, spends his time bashing other companies online and being narcistic to the extreme (look at the guys photo!) One Ups facebook and insta are the latest on his list though he has done WT and others.
  • + 11
 @Racer951: I've met him and I have to agree. Rest of his crew were good lads, but the man himself I found to be less so.
  • + 8
 @Racer951: apparently these days in our country malignant narcissism is no longer a diagnosis of a personality disorder, it's listed as a job qualification.
  • - 3
 @RedRedRe: Wrong. AB has been doing ovals for 2.5 - 3 years. I know as I got a ring from them early on, before spring 2015 and was dealing with Marcin directly, before they got as big as they are now.
It's One up and WT that came into the oval ring game later.
That was after wearing out 3 Rotor Q-Rings (which at the time were the only other big player in the oval ring game). While I suspect you are right and I'm of a similar view that AB copied the timing and ovality of a Q-Ring (I put one on top of the other when I first got my first AB ring, and they match exactly, with timing matching the center hole mount on Q-Ring's 3 timing options), the AB ring is a far superior product imo. For an XC gram counter as I am, it's lighter than a Q-Ring, much more elegant looking and far harder wearing. My Q-Rings were much more worn after a season of riding, no question about it.
  • + 1
 @arek: you are wrong. 2-3 ago, AB barely started. Their only product was a brake rotor. Which was not even on production.
Their first oval ring was in early-mid 2015, not even 2 years from now. Many companies already had non-round rings for years. There are lighter rings out there, as garbaruk, ari, etc etc.
Rotor rings are more durable and do not bend on impact like the AB. Which dont have enough material where the ring attaches to the crank (dm). Show us pic of your q rings... let me guess you dont have any.
  • + 1
 Ovality? I think you mean, ovularity.
  • + 6
 @RedRedRe: How old are you, 14?.. Sure, let me run to the garage to take pics of my old Q-rings, just to prove a point on the internet...
How did my comment signal to you a start of a pissing match?.. I was just stating my experience, that's all.
I know when I bought my first AB ring, so please don't tell me I'm wrong. Even the long mtbr thread started by them dates back to September 2014, at which point they already had rings. I had my AB ring on my single speed since before very first spring ride of 2015. While I have since bought another one, I still haven't swapped them, since the first one actually lasted longer than I thought it would and is still on my bike now. Which is what I'm basing my durability observations on - the Q-rings I have were visibly way more worn after one year already. Again, ymmv.
We were not talking about "many companies" that might have had rings before AB. You were referring to WT and One Up specifically, and they did come out with their ovals later than AB.
I have no problem saying that I don't think I'd seen Ari ring before you mentioned it. I don't see their weights posted on their site, but my 34T AB 104BCD ring weighed in at 43g (actual). Without anywhere near the same machining work involved, I doubt they're lighter than AB, just as Q-ring isn't. If you like them - great! Good for you.
I find it funny how you keep saying that marketing spiel on AB's website is nonsense, since you don't seem to have the same issue with other oval rings companies, while all of them have similar writeups on their products, how and why ovals work etc. I don't really care. All I know is I've been on ovals exclusively for about 6 years and they feel like they work for me, whether it's a placebo or not.
With that, I'm out. Have at it.
  • + 3
 I believe biopace oval rings were on bikes before the dawn of freeride. I had a nishiki nishitty with one way back in the day. So...
  • + 1
 @RedRedRe: Here is a proof that AB was doing oval rings before 2015.

Hi,
Thanks for the order.

Oval 34T will be sent by Monday due to enormous amount of orders.

It is worth waiting, so we will really appreciate your patience.

Marcin



On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:53:28
  • + 1
 @Racer951: They don't seem to have any chainrings for the newer XT and SLX bolt patterns, which Is what I need.

I might end up going for a WT, even with the decreased ovality, which seems to be the case and not because AB's owner says so on every forum, but because some riders have tried both and the effect is less pronounced on the WT. They last more though.
  • + 5
 why do they only make this guide for a maximum 34 tooth oval chain ring, when their largest size oval ring is 36 tooth? i was considering one but as this only goes up to 34 tooth I'm stumped!
  • + 6
 You all sound like a bunch of Oval-teens! DAMMIT!
  • + 2
 I suspect that 77Designz did most of the work on this product - they have been selling this style of chainguide for round chainrings for years. The oval version which is the "collaboration" with Absolute Black is just a different top plastic part. So I bought mine from www.77designz.com.

Anyway it's the same product and has been flawless for me since June after I started dropping chains ocassionally on my six-month-old Wolftooth oval ring. I got the ISCG05 BSA version and filed down the metal legs a little to work with my Race Face Cinch BSA30 but I had to file the inside of the plates a little to make it run silent in all gears of my 10 speed setup, no big deal. Their bashguards are nice too.
  • - 1
 How are their (77d) taco bash "nice"? They are just a piece of metal. When you hit stuff, all the stress is transfered to the iscg mounting tabs. The tabs could snap. It is the wrong design. The "taco" should break on impact.
  • + 3
 Because it's light and low-profile. I've hit mine very hard and my tabs are intact. I like it.
  • + 2
 @RedRedRe:

Mmmmmmm...... tacos.
  • + 4
 I´ve tried ovals and I will never go back to round ones.
On a side note: You can´t compare it to BioPace. It´s a completely different feel. I know because I have both Wink
  • + 1
 How are these oval rings different from Shimano's biopace? I thought we already learned oval rings are a bad idea. Word is they are hard on your knees, because that's where the momentum shift is constantly fluctuating.

*I've been using Biopace rings on my commuter for years (actual years, like 3 - not 1.5) and it's been fine, though I do notice my knees start bugging me after awhile it's hard to say whether that's linked to Biopace or not. However, I've worked for some highly skilled fitters who made comments about how Biopace was phased out because of the knee issues.
  • + 2
 There 'clocked' differently. Absolute Black does a great job explaining and comparing to Biospace on their website.
  • + 1
 Seen quite a few CX bikes with and without guides. Those folks know how to secure chains too, perhaps we could learn a thing or two from them (Aside from the fact they're bat crap crazy and fit as ever).
  • + 3
 Olly, what the heck do you have stuffed into your cranks? Is that a stainless steel scour pad?
  • + 2
 Moto foam,all the cool kids do it!
  • + 3
 What happened to Cedric Gracia being all about oval rings? or was that just about making some money.
  • + 3
 Is he not anymore? Pretty sure that video of his recent Megavalanche Reunion Island run shows him on oval and no guide - and dropping his chain on multiple occasions (including less than 30 seconds into the race)! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrkh2AMOzEY
  • + 4
 Which way is north? I have a matching rim.
  • + 3
 Is everything old, new again? Weren't oval chainrings the new thing 30 years ago?
  • + 3
 i thought Cedric Gracia was going to bring them back
  • + 5
 Since 1890 to be precise. Anyone claiming that they are new are talking shite:

www.cornant.uk/info/ovals03.html
  • + 1
 You can´t compare it to BioPace. The timing of the BioPace oval is wrong. The feel is totaly different. I know beacuse I have both.
After tying the new "generation" of ovals I`ll never go back to round ones.
  • + 4
 @Raffe: "New Generation' (i.e. 'science based') oval rings from Rotor and even earlier (I think)--Osymmetrics have been around since around 2000. Had set of road rings in 2003
  • + 1
 The popularitet of oneby drivetrains is what's made them viable. I'd never use an oval chainring with a front shifter.
  • + 1
 @ukr77: twelve02 writes in his post that ovals are not new, that there was ovals 30 years ago. And he is correct. But Then he must write about BioPace, therefore the comparison.
Every oval that has a different timing then BioPace is in mind new generation, including Rotor.
  • + 1
 @Trailsoup: I will actually give it a try on my road bike (with front shifter). It will be interesting Smile
  • + 1
 would be great combined with a lower taco guard. NW works well, but it's still easy to smack the $$ ring and chain when trying to clear hops up rocks or over fallen logs.
  • + 1
 @ollyforster Where did you get the cable protection that runs under the bb/chainstay on the patrol in the picture? I would like to purchase some!
  • + 1
 It's just a bit of hose with the correct ID. A lot of people use tank breather hose but it's pretty easy to come by anywhere online. Just check your gear cable diameter because they can vary depending on where you bought it etc.
  • + 2
 Homebase, 5mm internal diameter.
  • + 0
 @ollyforster: unless it's 4mm gear cable ;-)
  • + 0
 *housing
  • + 0
 Pls ignore me, I'm not making myself clear at all.
@kinny what I meant was that if you have 4mm gear housing (as I do) you'll want 4mm ID hose to protect it.
Good of Mr Forster to reply directly, apologies for confusing matters.
  • + 2
 To be honest I'm absolutely oval these chain guide reviews but cool product just the same.
  • + 1
 Not totally boost compatible with 2017 TrekSlash, rubs inside on lower gears no adjustment to avoid it.
  • + 2
 Looks like my back wheel after a bad day mwaha.
  • + 2
 my MRP amg V2 works great with ovals.
  • + 1
 I haver a cheap as chips Superstar one that works fine on my AB Oval rings.
  • + 1
 Such a big discussion for a piece of metal. Chainguide with +2 teeth capacity and you will be ok.
  • - 2
 I have a friend who is a the hardest, most aggressive and downright absuive rider and he still never drops his chain with a narrow/wide and a clutch mech. I race without one and never think twice. I just don't get it?
  • + 1
 What's that in the bottom bracket spindle?
  • + 0
 looks like steel wool. Some people put moto foam in there to stop mud from clogging it, but steel wool seems a bit heavy for the purpose.
  • + 1
 Moto foam
  • + 0
 @simcik: Moto foam indeed. Whoever owns this bicycle likes a bit of trick mechanics ;-) nice to see.
  • + 0
 the sheen in that angled view makes it look like steel wool!
  • + 1
 @simcik: Yep, moto foam.
  • + 1
 anybody remember BIOPACE? What's old crap is new crap again.
  • + 1
 I had to live through the first iteration of this oval crap.
  • + 2
 Biopace
  • + 1
 more like absolute red or sumtin tss tss
  • + 0
 Cheers Olly! Thanks for the info! Keep it up buddy! PS. Whis laps this season?
  • + 1
 Black oval guide!
why have they anodized it RED?
  • + 1
 Anyone heard and/or tried Doval rings?
  • + 1
 edit, answered myself, kudos for oval + taco
  • - 2
 what the f*ck is that huge housing coming out of the derailleur side of the bike?
  • + 8
 it's a fuckin fuel line over the housing to protect it and quiet the bike for fucks sake
  • - 3
 Just say NO to Bio Pace!
  • - 2
 This is just a copy of 77 designs !!
  • + 2
 It was designed in partnership with 77 designz.
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