Beech Mountain DHSE Race Moves to Windrock

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whilgenb (Jun 25, 2020 at 12:47)

I'm all for racing, but moving locations doesn't mean that COVID is gone. . .

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preridedump (Jun 25, 2020 at 12:52) (Below Threshold)

The man cant hold us down man, c'mon man. This is a dumbass move.

Warburrito (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:12)

What is Covid?

Don23 (Jun 25, 2020 at 16:56)

@devinyourface: the race will be better at THE ROCK anyways.. we all know that

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roadrunner1212 (Jun 25, 2020 at 17:54)

The stay at home order was to prevent the health system from getting overburdened, not to prevent people from getting it at all. The health systems in the us are nowhere near capacity and as a result the restrictions are no longer needed.

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ridesmoothbro (Jun 25, 2020 at 18:37)

@roadrunner1212: I am currently an RN working full time and this is exactly right. Here in Asheville, nurses have been furloughed because there is not enough work for them at the local hospital.

HurricaneCycles (Jun 25, 2020 at 20:55)

I live just an hour from windrock. It’s the same at our local hospital. RNs have been sent home and doctors losing tons of money (not that that’s a big deal). Whole sections of the hospital have been temporarily closed. All due to a dramatic decrease in demand. I’m sure it’s a big deal in some areas but it’s just not here. I don’t know how this fact plays Into the bigger picture of travel and events but it certainly explains why we have less restrictions.

Pisgah4life (Jun 26, 2020 at 3:24)

Same here. For three months, 3 hospitals in our system got shut down. We were at 30% capacity throughout the system.
Over 4000 people got furloughed that includes many docs.
There’s a spike in confirmed cases NOT hospitalizations! There is a huge line of cars that forms each day at the main hospital just to get tested. (Drive by test). Most are asymptotic, they just want the test.
The ER docs are testing everyone. Man falls and hurts his arm...covid test.
IF this is as virulent as they say...who knows...CDC and the WHO can’t seem to give straight answers, then everyone will get it. It’s inevitable. Mask..no mask...you will get it. Just depends how the virus effects your body...or how your body responds to the infection.

jscogmd (Jun 26, 2020 at 4:53)

@roadrunner1212: Good point, and that’s unacceptable.... So let’s hold gatherings and events until restrictions ARE needed and get that healthcare system up to capacity and doing its job.

popot85 (Jun 26, 2020 at 5:22)

@ridesmoothbro: Thank you for your services sir!

Lokirides (Jun 26, 2020 at 6:15)

@roadrunner1212: I think it depends on what section of the hospital you're talking about. ELECTIVE surgeries are way down, because people (pretty understandably) don't want to go to a hospital right now. However, in Asheville, the critical care section that cares for Covid patients was close to capacity just a week ago. So just because the orthopedic wing is almost empty doesn't mean anything about how many folks are on the (limited) number of respirators or occupying the (limited) number of doctors with pulminary expertise.

Pisgah4life (Jun 26, 2020 at 10:26)

@Lokirides: Not talking elective. My ER was dead for three months. Apparently covid cured strokes and cord compressions.
These patients were so scared to seek medical care that there are some with permanent damage. We are seeing a surge of these pts. That is what is truly sad.
Covid unit....bed size? We had a covid dedicated hospital that at its peak had 20 pts. That hospital due to no pts shut down till recently.

jlee0811 (Jun 25, 2020 at 12:45)

Stoked to see what the new racecourses are for this one - everything there is pretty gnarly. Anything goes in Sequatchie valley... Nuclear power, mining, dumping whatever you want down in the holler, they couldn't care less about some folks out riding bikes with "the covid goin on". Props to Neko and the crew for doing this, and trying their best to do it safely.

cmixgo (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:44)

Hate to be that guy, but Sequatchie Valley is the south west of Wind Rock on the opposite side of Walden Ridge. Are you thinking of TTC? You are right, anything goes in Sequatchie Valley!

jlee0811 (Jun 30, 2020 at 17:42)

@cmix85: You right!

nug12182 (Jun 25, 2020 at 18:36)

Beech sure didn't give a shit a couple weekends ago when the lift lines were 200 yards long!!!!

Pisgah4life (Jun 26, 2020 at 3:25)

No they had a 15 yard gap between the massive lines..lol

nug12182 (Jun 26, 2020 at 4:39)

@Pisgah4life: I don't do good waiting in lines.Thank god for edibles and beer that day.

Sugarbrad (Jun 26, 2020 at 16:21)

We can't exactly prevent a lot of riders showing up. And yes, we do care, have some respect. Every employee wore a mask, we can't ask strangers to ride together to increase loading efficiency, food and beverage is served according to regulations, and our entire facility is decontaminated periodically. If at any point you were uncomfortable with the people around you then you were free to leave. I would have happily granted you a rain check. Saturdays are busy...Try Thursday, Friday, or even Sunday if a lift line bothers you. Regarding the DHSE race, Gov Cooper extended Phase 2 so we are unable to hold the event. If you decide to race at Windrock there will be a line there as well. Just like our staff, Neko and his crew will do everything in their ability to provide a safe and efficient event. Maybe you should thank their staff for doing everything they can so you can ride bikes, it would go a long way trust me.

Sugarbrad (Jun 26, 2020 at 16:23)

@Pisgah4life: Try not riding on a Saturday? No lift lines on Thursday or Friday. Sundays are busy but not as busy as Saturdays. All bike parks are experiencing large turnouts. Stick to the forest on Saturdays or expect to wait in line.

Pisgah4life (Jun 26, 2020 at 19:24)

@Sugarbrad: Not throwing anything at beech. I don’t care if peeps are around me.
I was hoping everyone was afraid to come out and I’d have the place to myself...mostly.
I was wrong. Lol! Plus it was opening day.
That’s great for Thursday’s!! I didn’t know the place was open then. Definitely be hitting that up

And I just figured out the gap.....for riders coming through. Apparently I’m alittle dense..... geez...little slow on the uptake I guess.

popot85 (Jun 26, 2020 at 5:24)

NC cases have risen, because of more testing. What else would you expect? The death rate has not risen.

ridesmoothbro (Jun 26, 2020 at 19:02)

Yup.

Trail6 (Jun 25, 2020 at 18:37)

Sucks! I was looking forward to it at beech. Oh well ????

RayDolor (Jun 25, 2020 at 18:47)

Tennessee, the volunteer covid state! Stoke that still, Skeeter!

beaverbite2016 (Jun 26, 2020 at 6:56)

We are being "hoodwinked"!!!!!

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preach (Jun 25, 2020 at 12:47)

Sorry y’all ... our governor is more grandma than leader

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Cbyronoh (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:01)

I’m sorry that public health and safety are getting in the way of your bike racing..... Cooper isnt saying you can’t go ride at all, just that it’s not smart to gather in large groups.
Nc currently is one of the fastest growing Covid-19 hot spots, and if everyone would have just chilled out and stayed home when they went to phase 1 we might be racing. But people didn’t , and we are not.

GlassGuy (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:11)

@Cbyronoh: numbers are up due to increased testing(and other factors), but deaths and hospitalizations are down.

Warburrito (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:16)

@Cbyronoh: and numbers will continue to go up...until after the election. Did nobody notice how the media said numbers were down as the BLM protests started up, then after Pence said the same thing....BAM!!! Story turned around and is totally different and things are "horrible" again! The news is always just messing with us to gain an edge on whatever situation is hot at the moment. Gotta get used to it and take it with a grain of salt.

Yes, Covid is a sickness, but I'm not jumping every time they tell me to.

Cbyronoh (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:22)

Don’t know where you are getting your facts but that is not true... deaths and hospitalizations are going up daily. I get that if you test more you find more. But that is not what’s happening in Nc, if it were a matter of extra testing they would not have signed a mask mandate that starts tomorrow and they would have moved to phase3 of reopening. But here we are stuck in phase 2 because people think only about how this changes their own lives and not how it impacts everyone else. There is no easy answer on how to get past this, but doing whatever we want has proven not to work. Maybe we all try working together and following the suggestions of the scientists and doctors studying this instead of complaining we can’t race bikes@GlassGuy:

Cbyronoh (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:32)

You have a right to your opinion but here in NC real people are losing their lives. People of all ages, not just older people and those with illnesses. I respect your right to your own views but if your not in a state where neighbors, friends, and family are getting sick and dying it’s hard to tell someone who is that it’s not really happening. @Warburrito:

Lokirides (Jun 25, 2020 at 13:34)

@Warburrito: are you seriously proposing that scientists, doctors, and the competing news organizations have conspired to give Trump bad ratings by making up Covid cases? For those of us who have been affected by the deaths and sicknesses of people close in our community, it's not just politics. Covid cares not if you're Republican or Democrat, and it INFURIATES ME that Republicans are making wearing a mask, an easy, basic consideration and precaution that stops you from infecting the vulnerable, a political issue. Photos and videos of peaceful protesters show the vast majority with masks on and outside. Check a photo of a Trump rally - no masks, indoors, yelling for their spraytan Jesus who thinks it's hilarious to call what's killed 120,000+ Americans "kung flu." My God... what Kool-Aide did they drink?
In short, you don't have to jump, but put on a darn mask please.

Warburrito (Jun 25, 2020 at 15:54)

@Lokirides: no, I'm saying the news is an entertainment and political engine that does not stray from their talking points. If you feel that Covid is terifying how did you feel during BLM protests when they were downplaying how serious it was and claiming that it was no big deal that protesters weren't concerned with Covid because cases were leveling off? Its not just the "evil" Trump supporters not wearing masks, but they condemn them while sayinf rioters are no safety hazard. Can't have it both ways sir.

Lokirides (Jun 25, 2020 at 16:19)

@Warburrito: The MAJORITY of BLM protesters were wearing masks, and outdoors. The MAJORITY of people not wearing masks are Republicans, and Trump's rallies are where? Inside. You, sir, are not in touch with reality if you argue otherwise. Try reading my previous comment one more time and then try again with a coherant response.
Also, pretty sure the President is more concerned about his TV ratings than even the worst news programs... Who, in your dilluded worldview, is supplying the news' "talking points?" George Soros, Bill Gates? Have another swig of that conspiracy theory kool-aide bro, and then try a little project management and see how easy it is to coordinate people working together, let alone on a global scale. Or keep your tinfoil hat on, your call, just PUT ON THE DAMN MASK.

Don23 (Jun 25, 2020 at 16:55)

@Warburrito:

Ur ???? right on the money bro !!!

Warburrito (Jun 25, 2020 at 19:41)

@Lokirides: So I'm a conspiracy theorist because I notice that there's a huge gap in the way our media represents things to viewers depending on the political viewpoints, sexual orientation, race, religion, rural/urban residency, etc of the events/people they're covering? I think that's just called observation. Maybe deduction if you want to liken me to Sherlock Holmes.

popot85 (Jun 26, 2020 at 5:25)

@GlassGuy: Exactly

preach (Jun 26, 2020 at 6:07)

@Cbyronoh: so what you’re saying is on an entire mountain people can’t spread out and wear masks to watch a race in the dang windiest spot in N.C.... ok....

Lokirides (Jun 26, 2020 at 6:10)

@Warburrito: No, you're a conspiracy theorist because you seem to think a coordinated agenda is being pushed by national media outlets, so again I ask... coordinated by whom?

Sorry, but photographers didn't take pictuers of BLM protesters wearing masks in the outdoors and pictures of Trump supporters not wearing masks indoors because of bias-- that is just what REALITY was. You can't get around facts by inventing "alternative facts" -- like make up the idea that voter fraud is widespread and that's why you lost the popular vote or your inaugeration crowd was the biggliest ever and claim that it's "fake news" when it actually wasn't. It's not "liberal media" if the president actually calls it "kung flu" and suggests we shouldn't test more because it makes us look bad - that's ACTUALLY what he said and it's ACTUALLY stupid and offensive.

So again, please, JUST WEAR A MASK IN PUBLIC. It's not a liberal plot to make Trump look bad, I'm just trying to stop you from spreading a dangerous illness.

Warburrito (Jun 26, 2020 at 9:53)

@Lokirides: I'm allowed to have a different opinion than you. I don't have to know all the inner workings of a system to see the plain as day bias present on the surface. I can clearly see your bias against people of different political viewpoints than yours and I can apply that same observation technique to what I read, listen to, and watch. It's actually quite simple and I don't need to be some whacko to have that skillset.

Lokirides (Jun 26, 2020 at 13:02)

@Warburrito: "I'm allowed to have a different opinion than you" is the last resort tactic of someone who can't find any facts to line up with their argument. Sorry bro, all opinions are NOT created equal. Try learning the phrases "I hadn't thought of it that way" or "in light of new information, I see things differently now," take your eyes off Fox News, and please, for the love of God, WEAR A MASK.

Peace.

Warburrito (Jun 26, 2020 at 17:30)

@Lokirides: youtu.be/cVFiqY7T5GI