Bike Check: Andréane Lanthier Nadeau's Rocky Mountain Slayer Mullet DH Bike

 Specially when you change to control tires/wheels, and forget to tighten the wheel axle!

 @mlangestrom, how is this still a comment a year later? The axle was tight. End of discussion.

 @mikekazimer: you must be new around here...

 @mlangestrom: yeah torque wrenches are a pretty useful little tool....

 @mikekazimer: that was the bike I was most looking forward to you reviewing because for the spec it was the most reasonably priced bike :/ I wish you guys had gotten your hands on a new one

 @mikekazimer: i heard it was TOO tight

 id love to own this bike but obviously put off by the pb test. Where are people getting this idea about the axle not being done up properly?

 @nordland071285: I think people are using a bit of deductive reasoning. I’ve yet to hear of another one breaking. I’m part of a slayer fb group (I have the last generation slayer) and the page is littered with people riding them set up with dual crowns as their park bike and I’ve yet to see any breakage issues.

 @mikekazimer: Why are you pissed ? Im so dissapointed... why would the comments get to bring you down ?


Most likely it was tight but this is what comments do...mess up your head....Check Vae Varbeek she never ever replied to any.....dont check the comments man, you re my favourite guy on the podcast and all just dont check them .... they ll mess up your mind

 @mikekazimer: was there a resolution to this that I didn't see? I feel like I am missing something with the axle comments. Last I had seen, @RockyMountainBicycles had not addressed the cause of failure.

 It is in kicking horse. Pretty sure there is only one shop in Golden... and its the size of 3 port-o-potties. So unless she brought her own tires...

 @jomacba: oh yes, that was the shop where they screwed me one time. I now remember (don't like them very much)

 @monkeybizz: They seemed like good shit to me, mind you my interaction was limited.

 @jomacba: yeah the one right downtown across from the bar. They were super nice there there's one on the hill too.

 @makripper: Yeah, not sure if the one on the hill counts lol.

 @jomacba: essentially what happened was I took my bike in cause I was on my way to whistler and needed a bigger volume spacer. They sold me one and tried to put it in and then figured out it wasn’t the right one. Then they said for labour they would keep the money I spent on the spacer. I literally stood there for 2 minutes for them to try to put it in. I found it at another shop later and did it myself. Just a sour taste from being complete idiots for their mistake

 @monkeybizz:
There are three shops in Golden if you include Kicking Horse proper. I’m assuming you’re talking about the one on Main Street.

 @monkeybizz: ah yes, at the moment my buddy works there (he is 13) at least my other friend who lives in golden doesn't work there or else the shop would be completely destroyed...

 @Bikerdude137: lol! this happened 2 years ago

 @monkeybizz: oh that's fine, i'm just saying...
Although his brother has worked there since he was 13 which was 2 years ago...

 well yes, that's kind of the point...

 Weights in lbs are just plain wrong. The imperial system has the consistency of a Trump speech.

 @southoftheborder: Ouch. Low blow. But well deserved

 I think it just depends on what the current conversion rate is based on high/low pressure systems, temperature, moon cycles/tides, humidity, hydration of rider, etc between Canada and the US.

Source: I was a carney who could ‘guess your weight and height’ until I went to college.

 @southoftheborder: how does it have any more or less consistency than metric? It’s only when it’s mid-converted there are issues. Usually with nations that don’t understand it

 @Molesdigmyjumps: there is exactly one arbitrary magnitude per measured quantity in the metric system. Then, you divide or multiply by powers of 10. The imperial one is a historical mashup of regional and inaccurate measurement units, as you might know.

You could even argue the multiple discrepancies among different sub measurement units in the imperial system have been used to exploit the less educated segment of the populace. I happened to study physics, and helped an anthropologist friend to put together a paper on this matter -how the metric system works as an even ground from where you might build better social relationships are scale-.

You might feel it more "natural" since you have been using it your whole life, but in reality the reticence of the US to leave the imperial system in the past (socially and educationally speaking, not at an individual level) ultimately comes from the need to "have it the US way, or the highway". Yielding into the metric system is seen by many at the top as a sign of weakness. I know it seems stupid when one reads this from our common ground of simple working men, but believe me (and please, I don't intend to go into tin foil hat territory), this issue it has deeper roots than one tends to consider.

 @n3sta: I'm on the same boat as you when it comes to eyeballing distances and weights. It all comes down to a trained eye, theft father of one my childhood friends used to put up these little contests where we would be sitting at the town square on a Sunday afternoon and he would ask us how much would someone he knew (he was a doctor in our small town) weighted, or how tall they were. If we guessed it right, we got some candies.

But yeah, I agree with you and many others on the units mashup on the reviews: pick a measurement system and go forth with it. It gets confusing otherwise.

 @southoftheborder: there are set conversion & standards, neither is more or less "accurate". Remember the US somehow managed to develop nuclear weapons, led the aerospace industry for many years and was the first to put a man on the moon before metric was widely used. It's common in many engineering fields to use decimals vs fractions for measurements.

Generally the flight industry worldwide still uses imperial, like nautical miles.

Metric is MUCH easier for the average person, but does have inconsistencies, like weight vs mass. A Kg as you typically refer too is really Kgf (and not mass) so is equivalent to lbs.

 @southoftheborder: ooh patient confidentiality breach alert! Haha just kidding
I axtually replied to say how I thought candles were an odd prize..but autocorrect quickly made me realise you had written candies

 @RadBartTaylor: I realized "accurate" wasn't the most accurate word to refer to "consistent" after sending the comment, my bad. Take error correction and the different measurement units depending on the scale the imperial system uses for instance: inches, feet, yards, miles...

And who in their sane mind chooses a rectangle as the unit for big areas??? The Fahrenheit scale depends on the accuracy of the temperature measurement of TWO different substances, not one. And I could go like that for ever... As I said before, the inability of both the UK and the US to adapt the metric system came from their reluctance to change, but also from their need to feel they rule (pun intended).

 @RadBartTaylor: the case of the Mars Climate Orbiter is a nice way to review both the history of the measurements and how badly they could interact:

www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/nasa-mars-climate-orbiter-metric

 As long as the overall majority on here continues to mention tire and air chamber pressures in psi (instead of bar, Pascal or even atmosphere would make more sense to me) it makes no sense shitting on other imperial metrics being used. Heck, it actually makes more sense to mention rider weight in lbs if you continue to mention spring gauge in lbs and tire and air chamber pressure in psi. I'm pretty sure nearly everyone living in "metric countries" would convert back to imperial if a tire width was mentioned to them in mm.

Ideally people just learn to live with different systems, just as we get along with different languages.

 @vinay: yeah, the shitstorm appears when there's no consistency and the settings/characteristics of any bike are a non sense mashup of imperial, metric and Elvish.

As you mentioned, we are all used to note tire dimensions and pressures in inches/psi, while bike dimensions and suspension travel have almost defaulted to millimeters nowadays. At least that has been the norm at this side of the pond, but if you look at the European sites most of the tire pressures are noted in bar, while shock/fork pressures are expressed in psi some times...

 @southoftheborder: I vote for it all being in elvish.

 @50percentsure: Er echor na thenid hain all

 @Molesdigmyjumps: when you're measuring things out while riding feet work really well (especially size 10-14 if you have massive feet like me) so i generally say "14 feet" when riding but i hate imperial for exact numbers, to the people who use inches for woodworking, wtf is wrong with you...

 @Bikerdude137: Grit is a common metric for stating how fine or coarse sandpaper is. Even in "metric" countries.

 @vinay: should i read something to understand why you said that? It seems so random...

 @Bikerdude137: You said " to the people who use inches for woodworking, wtf is wrong with you..." yet people doing woodworking use sandpaper with the texture quantified in grit. For instance 60 grit implies there are 60 grains on a square inch of sandpaper. I don't even know whether there is a metric alternative, nor do I think there is anyone even calling for it. Except you, apparently.

 @vinay: That was quite clearly not what i was saying, i meant measuring out specific measurements in inches, do you know how annoying it is to write out onto a 5cm long peice of wood "1/16th of an inch" instead of 1.5mm?

 @Bikerdude137: let me help you, .063"

 I thought it was 30, i could be wrong tho...

 30 in the song lol