Bike Check: Brett Rheeder's Prototype Trek Ticket S

Jun 16, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  



Trek's Emil Johanssen and Brett Rheeder have been putting on a show at Innsbruck Crankworx. While most slopestyle riders opted for hardtails in Austria, Brett and Emil bucked the trend, bagging first and second, running with rear suspension. But, Brett wasn't riding a standard Trek Ticket S. He's been working for the past "six to eight months" to produce a bike that can compete with the lighter, nimbler hardtails that have started to dominate slopestyle. Clearly, it seems to have been working well for him.

We caught up with Brett to have a chat after the slopestyle finals.

Rider Name // Brett Rheeder
Age: 26
Hometown: Mount Albert, Ontario
Instagram: @brettrheeder



What changes did you make from the standard Ticket S?


Rheeder: We've had a couple of versions actually. They made the Ticket S a couple of years back and then it wasn't working for us, as slopestyle was changing. We wanted to lengthen the top tube, steepen the head tube angle and lower the bottom bracket. That's what I've been riding for the past two years.

As [slopestyle] changes, more riders are coming out on hardtails, but the benefits of a [full suspension] slopestyle bike are still incredible for this sort of stuff. It gives you more leeway for screwing up, landing deep, or coming up short, so we didn't want to get rid of it.

Ticket S Details

Frame: Aluminum 85mm dual-suspension, (custom slopestyle geometry)
Shock: Fox Float DPS, 85mm
Fork: Fox Factory 36, 100mm
Wheels: We Are One Composites The Coup, 26"
Tires: Maxxis Ikon, 2.2x26"
Drivetrain: Singlespeed, Shimano XTR crank, SB One G3C DH Chain Tensioner
Brakes: Shimano mechanical disc brake
Cockpit: Title prototype handlebar (734mm), Title prototype stem
Size: Custom

We shortened the shock for 85mm of travel, shortened the chainstay again, lengthened the top tube, lowered the BB and then they shaved about 200 grams off the frame. So now this bike is comparable to all the other guys who are on hardtails. It's finally a contender with the weight and the benefits, it's pretty cool.

They also made the shock more progressive too, so we can run less psi. It's more supple on the top and ramps up way harder on the bottom end. We can run the shock in open mode, we were running them completely locked out with tons of psi before, just to get a stiff enough rear end. Now it feels like an active bike, it'll soak up small chatter on the slopestyle course, but it will still hold up when we push off for a flat drop flip or a big impact.

When you say slopestyle has changed, what exactly do you mean by that, is it the tricks that are being pulled?


Yeah, riders like Nicholi, Emil and Dawid Godziek are doing crazy stuff that involves a really light bike, a really small and short bike. Those guys are riding hardtails because you can jam the back wheel as close as you can until it's hitting the frame.

Can you give us some exact numbers?


I can't give you exact numbers, no. I measured it when I was at home with a tape measure just to confirm the numbers a while ago. This has been in the works for 6-8 months so I don't remember the exact numbers now.

The rear end of this bike has been shortened from Rheeder's previous Ticket S. The shock is custom made. It no longer has a trunnion mount and is specifically tuned for slopestyle.

The head angle remains the same, but it's now a bit farther forward thanks to a lengthened top tube.


Not much is known about Title components at the moment...
...Except that Rheeder is involved and they're still in the prototyping stage.


Rheeder was running his shock at 350 psi in training, but backed it off for finals to around 300 psi.

The fork pressure is also super high: 165psi.

A cable-actuated disc brake is all that's needed for this build, especially because it works with the gyro.

Rheeder was training with 50psi in his tyres, but upped it to 55 for finals so he could carry a bit more speed off the start drop into the first jump. Brett has apparently been playing around with lower tyre pressures for a while to find a bit more traction on courses like Innsbruck's.

The chain tensioner by SB One components.

Carbon We Are One 'The Coup' wheels were unveiled at Sea Otter just a few months ago





108 Comments

  • + 78
 The 5 people that bought last year's model are probably bummed.
  • + 144
 Doubtful. They'll just ask their moms for the new model.
  • + 30
 @raybao: or dads! Happy fathers day to all the old men with bad knees!
  • + 1
 Sold my P3 to build a hardtail ticket. Nice looking bike, and I'm sure it rides sweet on huge slopestyle courses, but everybody that rode it at the local jumps and myself, thought the geo felt super awkward. Ended up selling it for another P3. Good to see they've upgraded the Geo a little, might be a little more fun to ride for every day punters.
  • + 1
 Best 29er I've ever seen.
  • + 3
 @chris199: funny cuz I think it is P3 that has awkward geo being so long and steep. 26player Long has very similar numbers yet feels much more civil.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: P3 is a long bike but the back end is so short which is what makes it so fun. Im pretty tall so the longer the better, but Each to their own I guess
  • + 1
 @Bflutz625 @jorgeposada what would be a good starter? looking for something to hit the pump track and learn a couple of tricks.

Something that has an S size frame version preferably.
  • + 1
 @chris199: nah, nothing really wrong with it. I can see how it suits tall people. Then drop outs are probably the best in the business. It just feels like it has a head angle 2 degrees steeper than what it says in the geo chart
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: owned 2 26 player...best bike ever..but 2 friends owns a ticket HT and its awesome..360 are so easy on them
  • + 1
 @Milko3D: I would go for a hard tail, if your coming from bmx there are some steel options mostly UK brands, for aluminum pretty much every company has a good it frame then build up to your liking. The jumps by me are 29er proof, basically your lucky to fit a 26 in there but alot of other more open spaced jumps everywhere.
  • + 0
 @jorgeposada: we have a dude in town throwing 90deg whips, decent pancakes, 360s, backflips and 360backflips off 7ft kickers with more or less 45 exit angle on a 160 Commie. Give him SB150 and he'll do the same. His surname may be Johansson but it's not Emil, so don't let it fool you Smile
  • - 1
 @Milko3D: get a DJ hardtail... it makes literally no sense to buy any of these FS SS bikes. They are pro slope style machines and all the kids will laugh at you fro having one. In one way because they will envy, but mostly, because they will know you're a clueless kook for showing up with one. It would be as if you came to BMX race track for the first time with carbon frame and fork. Nobody would need to see you take the first gate. They would know everything judging by the way you approach it and stand in it. Same with some super expensive, super loud or super silent hub on street BMX in the skate park. One look at the kook on the edge of the quarter and you are burned. Zero use and lots to live up to hahaha Big Grin That's the beauty of riding simple bikes in places like dirt, BMX track, skate park - it's about what you can. And you cannot hide what you can't. Unlike folks on super bikes in the bike park. They can tell all the amazing stories what happened between top and bottom station of the lift. Too bad nobody saw it. Same with lone wolves on Strava... DJ HT is for a MTBer what a bukken is to a Samurai. You must have one #behumble
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: We have a few tickets, blackmarket fs ss riders getting prettty freakin rad and would be laughing histerically at you. The dj hard tail is the way to go and will force you to learn the fundamentals. Alot of people jump on 27 or 29 fs bikes now first and clean many teeth between rides.
  • + 0
 @jorgeposada: I am for the DJ HT... I own one... read my second comment... I just meant that skills work the other way around too. Heard enough stuff from folks who say 29" wheels are terrible for this and that from folks who wouldn't manuala 20" bike for sht. I even wrote that kids will laugh at FS kooks... in general there is no point in not having a DJ bike. it is better to have an 3k FS and 500$ used up DJ than 8k FS. That is why I laugh at long travel HTs because they are stupid. It's mostly for folks who have no clue what riding HT is about and then riding trails fast on FS is. Long travel HTs suck ass even on a pumptrack, that says enough.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: @jorgeposada: Thanks dudes.

Ah, yes, of course, not getting a prototype Ticket S anytime soon, was wondering if there are the analogs of Jeffsies and Spectrals in the world of DJ. Something good, reliable and affordable.

I'd get something second hand, does it matter if its steel or alu?
  • - 3
 @Milko3D: screw frame material, it’s pretentious sht talk. Steel is real, no it’s easy to work with for garage frame makers and it’s a BS story they tell to sell more bikes.

From practicalities, get anything with an air sprung fork (you want it hard as fuk) and strong rims. Save some for fast rolling tyres, cockpit adjustment and pedals. You may also want 30$ for a chainring or cog to dial the gearing. Fit, hard fork, hard, fast tyres are more important than some style mumbo jumbo.
  • + 2
 The best thing you could do when starting a new build is not go on this site for advice. Go to the jumps your looking at and see what people are running, talk to locals and make your own decisions.
  • + 0
 @jorgeposada: which is 99% compatible with what I wrote, because how could it be different? It’s a DJ bike... some people come to our pumptrack or dirt with soft coil forks that came stock with their bikes (Marzocchi DJs or Argyles) and wonder how can they not boost anything. Most of these are so soft you’d bottom them on any steeper kicker, every single time.
  • + 1
 Ride XDigX Die! Arrivadurchi!
  • + 0
 @jorgeposada: No dig no ride. We just lowered the tops of landings on the main line because we were afraid of casing them with our Reserve wheels on our cc Bronsons. They were taller than the take offs which makes no sense. We used the remaining earth to make the landings flatter.
  • + 1
 No wonder I can never land a flat drop backflip tailwhip. My old Ticket S is waaay too long in the rear, short in the front, tall in the bottombracket and too good a friend with mother gravity.

-Not that I would ever try, I mainly use it for pumptrack and the foampit. Still saves my scrawny ankles tho...

(Luckily I got some awesome deals and built it for less than $1000)
  • + 1
 @megatryn: you Hafjell this weekend?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Unfortunatly not. Life got in the way. You?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I was ther yesterday.
  • + 1
 @megatryn: why didn’t you write to me?! I want to meet online people in real life. I was riding in black Pinkbike hoodie and orange pants. You’d notice hahah
  • + 1
 Were you the dude who rode with the dude in red pants who lost sunglasses on Boldre?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Sorry I forgot. Nope. I rode with a lot of different people throughout the day. I thought saw Jon (Lindgren) up there? I was wearing all black (as always) with mirrored goggles on a black Intense M16. What were you wearing/riding? Will you be there next weekend? I might go to Drammen to ride on wednesday.

www.instagram.com/p/BzEKdm6g0wX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
  • + 1
 @megatryn: I rode KGB behind a "black" dude, who rode with a dude in white D3. I had orange glow long TLD pants, black hoodie, White old D2. Jon wasn't riding on Sunday. Sent Rollercoaster all the way withot casing a single jump for the first time. Hate the photo jump berms, or rather the last jump before them. But I rode until 12:30 only.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Awesome, I think that was me. I think I was the only one in the park who wore shorts and knee-shin pads.

Props for sending Rollercoaster wo casing. I find upper Roller really tricky and yeah, the berms before the photo-table (also known as Kjelsrud-hoppet) are really hard/scary to keep your speed up in. Fun fact: the Photo-table was a birthday present from my friend Snorre, who built most of Hafjell, to another friend of mine, Erik Kjelsrud, who is one of Norway's best action photographer and proper OG.
  • + 2
 @megatryn: Snorre is a legend. Never talked to him but saw him a few times in the park. I think key to success on photo hoppet is nailing the last jump, I did a hard brake lever grab before the 3rd jump (counting from the bridge) and then some more before the 4th, then popped it. It set me up very well for the berms and then a good pop on photo jump. I followed Makken there last year, it was eye opening to see how slow he rides and boosts everything
  • + 22
 Why all handlebars don’t have set up markings this good escapes me!
  • + 7
 I'm fairly certain Brett remembers the bikes geometry numbers though his sponsorship as a factory rider is contingent on him "forgetting" for interviews like this. Wink
  • + 2
 Yup !
  • + 9
 The offset on the fork looks minimal
  • + 3
 Lol, you’ve just gotten used to seeing all the ridiculous offsets on 27.5, 29er forks that normal now looks strange.
  • + 1
 It is. I have some Push tuned 36 Floats and thought the same at first.
  • + 8
 Still think he was scored .75 too much.. jussayin...
  • + 4
 What? No knock-block? I thought that was supposed to be a feature.
  • + 1
 Mine saved my butt a couple weeks ago. LOL! I slammed that thing so damned hard. I still don't know how I road out of it.
  • + 2
 Mmm cable brakes... you'd think the best in the world would get a decent cable housing. Looks like its buggered at the caliper.
  • + 1
 No ferrule fitted shocker!
  • + 1
 Looks like derailleur cable housing was used instead of brake cable housing.
  • + 1
 @Mavic101: bingo. But still a bit weird considering you can buy linear brake housing from lots of people. Instead of blowing the housing through the caliper...

Especially considering the twists that his housing it’s going to see.
  • + 2
 Ferrules add too much weight lol!
  • + 4
 anyone know why the chain is super slack in the first photo
  • + 2
 Yeah, set the bike down for the photo and then spun the pedals back a few degrees to the basic white bike pose without picking the rear end up.
  • + 2
 @werics @tommatson they just stuck the wheel on and forgot to release the cage hold (easier for getting wheels in like on Sram derailleurs).
  • + 0
 Smurthwaite: What changes did you make from the standard Ticket S?

Rheeder: We've had a couple of versions actually...

As [slopestyle] changes, more riders are coming out on hardtails...

Smurthwaite: When you say slopestyle has changed, what exactly do you mean by that, is it the tricks that are being pulled?

Rheeder: Yeah, riders like Nicholi, Emil and Dawid Godziek are doing crazy stuff that involves a really light bike, a really small and short bike. So we've been trying to turn it in to a BMX.
  • + 2
 Yeah I read that too
  • + 2
 The big difference suspension wise between this bike and the last version they all had is that the rocker link is much longer from the seat post pivot to the shock.
  • + 2
 He had a chromag saddle on it the other day?

And the title pic has different fork/shock decals than the close ups

Sick bike regardless ...
  • + 4
 Nope sorry that was Peter Kaiser with the chromag seat
  • + 4
 Custom welds
  • + 5
 I saw that. Makes me think they actually built this prototype in Waterloo, Wisconsin. Perhaps the welder doesn't make many frames or they wanted to make sure their prototype didn't crack in the middle of a race run
  • + 2
 @pedalbitesucks: All the race team stuff is typically manufactured in Wisco so I wouldn't be surprised. Can't be taking guys off the production line to make goofy stuff
  • + 3
 Title stem looks sweet!
  • + 2
 I’m digging the Edward Scissorhands seat myself.
  • - 1
 Looks nearly identical to a deity cavity stem
  • + 1
 Hell yea it does
  • + 1
 Looks better than cavity my friend
  • + 1
 Reverse offset fork? If I'm not mistaken, the Kashima "K" usually points forward, right?
  • + 1
 Anyone know the tune of that rear shock?
I can’t make out what’s printed on the label
  • + 1
 How can those water drops not evaporate right away?
  • + 1
 Product photographers magic. Trust me, You don't want to know why burgers look so yummy on photos... Wink
  • + 1
 @snakeartworx: I kind of do though...
  • + 2
 I meant the bike is soooo hot!
  • + 1
 We Are One, hands down best wheels ever made!!!
  • + 1
 The Kashima clashes with this paint job.
  • + 2
 I'd Ride it
  • + 1
 1:1 shock ratio.. Nice
  • + 1
 Nah I think PB wrote the details down wrong. The frame probably does have 85mm travel, but the shock doesn't
  • + 1
 @IllestT: I did wonder Big Grin
  • + 0
 What tire casing is that?
  • + 1
 Beautiful bike Drool
  • - 1
 Not much carbon on slope style bikes. Oh yeah, because it's dangerous
  • + 3
 What, apart from the carbon wheels?
  • + 2
 To my knowledge a YT Play hasn’t had a failure yet. So there’s that.
  • - 3
 I'm running 295 psi and 165 psi on my trail bike. Is he just super light?
  • + 0
 Yeah dude I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s on the lower than average size of weight for his height. I’m not ripping on Brett or any of the other riders in any way, but with the exception of Rogatkin they all look pretty scrawny. Even with that being said I’m sure Rogatkin isn’t a big dude at all. I can imaging being light is probably beneficial. I’ll be mind blown to see a guy my size (6’4 and 220lbs) riding at that level. I’m not nearly as skilled as these guys but I can imagine being lighter would substantially help me spin/flip faster
  • + 4
 Are you literally a bear? What kind of bike/fork? I could see a shock that hard but your fork sounds like a rock. Maybe more volume spacers?
  • + 6
 You are running 165psi in your fork? Are you 350lbs? What fork?
  • + 1
 @mtb-sf: Lmfao unfortunately I’m not a mountain biking bear. For starters I should be honest, I’ve only tried flips into a pit and I’ve done spins and small tricks on resi’s and fly outs in quarters. Also I ride a hardtail p3 I’ve been building up when it comes to my “freeride career” and to top that off I mostly ride skate parks and an indoor park named Rays.

I am saving up for a pike, I almost pulled the trigger on it this year but for some crazy reason I got a profile z coaster hub and rebuilt my wheels. The poor pseries wheels that come with that bike got clapped out in a matter of a couple months for me. I assume it’s mostly a lack of skill but my size definitely has something to do with it
  • + 1
 @mtb-sf: disregard my last comment I now realize you weren’t talking to me lol!
  • + 2
 @Hardtailhooligan: Thanks for the interesting response anyways. I was wondering who would run 165 psi in a trail fork
  • + 1
 @mtb-sf: Seriously. I'm a big dude and don't even break 90 most of the time.
  • - 1
 @mtemp: it's a 34 dual position. I always run it in trail mode too. I weigh 185 lbs for those wondering. It feels good and i bottom it once a ride at least. I went up to 175 for a gnalry steep Rock roll trail recently.
  • + 5
 @makripper: your pump must be incredibly miscalibrated. Thats impossible. The 2018 34 for example has a max psi of 120 and that’s for a 250lb rider.
  • - 1
 @mtemp: mines not a 2018. Its a 2016. You know what they say about assumptions
  • - 1
 @Hardtailhooligan: no ripping or anything just surprised those guys even run suspension
  • + 1
 @makripper: Well if ya go too deep or come up short and it can help ya hang on to the landing then I can understand. Personally as stated by my name I’ve never owned anything full suspension so I tend to be in a camp with you. However my skill level is sooooo far off from there’s that idk how much I can even say on whether it’s useful or not to run full squish
  • + 0
 @makripper: Theirs not there’s lol
  • + 1
 @Hardtailhooligan: yeah most guys run hardtails now for a reason.
  • + 1
 @makripper:

I'd venture to guess that it has as much to do with knowing that hard tails work, having more hard tail options in regards to sponsorships, being more comfortable with it and they're easy to have custom built to spe.

Not that many companies make a FS bike that works for it and no one besides Trek is really working with it's athletes the way they are with Rheeder to get a bike that works right.

I'm sure if there were more options out there more guys would be riding them.

Some guys likely will never change. Some guys ride both. Some guys will probably change if better options are available. Especially if Rheeder and Emil keep crushing them on them.

A lot fo slope and speed and style guys are already on them. Reed Boggs. T-Mac. DJ Brandt. Carson Storch. Cam Zink. Kaos. Etc.
  • + 1
 @onemanarmy: Well don’t forget Semenuk had run the ticket s for the last several years as well. Even in his video parts after he’s decided to pull out of competition I can only think of one off the top of my head where he’s not running FS. With the exception to the couple bmx edits he’s done.

I may be wrong on this but I believe in his early days he ran a small sized remedy until he and trek developed the Ticket S. I don’t know how much he is still working with them on it, especially because Rheeder seems to have taken over the dev but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he still has some input in it. With him not competing in Crankworx it’s reasonable to believe that Semenuk is probably not very/if at all involved.

All in all I would say you’re right, I work for a lbs and I’ve had a chance to ride a pslope and good lord I’d hang on to my p3 over that any day. Again though I want to emphasize that my riding level and the type of stuff I ride is no where near what these guys do. I originally got a dj because I was tired of paying to rent at the indoor park I ride at during the winter and while I know Rheeder/McCaul and David Liebb have amazing edits at Ray’s I can’t do anything they do there lol. I’ve also been inspired recently by The Rise and so many bmx edits that I’ve been trying my hand at broadening my horizons and riding a lot of street/skatepark stuff.
  • - 2
 No copper plated e-motor mounts? No thanks Trek.
Below threshold threads are hidden

Post a Comment



Copyright © 2000 - 2019. Pinkbike.com. All rights reserved.
dv14 0.046355
Mobile Version of Website