Bike Check: Cecile Ravanel's 2020 Commencal Meta AM 29

Jun 3, 2020
by Matt Wragg  




Cecile Ravanel hardly needs an introduction. After sweeping the EWS title three years in a row, her horrific training crash in early 2019 ruled her out for the whole season, leaving a chasm at the head of the women's field. It's a long road back from any spinal injury, with the stakes being even higher when it's up in the cervical vertebrae (the ones in your neck) as hers was. Fortunately she's been making good progress and has been back on the bike this winter. When we caught up with her she was loving being able to ride once more and looked comfortable doing it. This is the bike she was looking forwards to taking back to the volcanic dust of La Parva for the opening rounds.

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Details
Height 5'8" / 173cm
Weight 132 lb / 60kg
Hometown Frejus, France
Model Commencal Meta AM
Frame Size Medium
Wheel Size 29"
Suspension Rockshox Lyrik & Super Deluxe
Drivetrain & Brakes SRAM Code
Cockpit Renthal
Wheels & Rubber Spank & Hutchinson

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
At 1.73m tall, Cecile opted for the medium frame.

When it comes to bike setup she knows what she likes, but her tastes are surprisingly simple for a 3-time world champion - this bike is more or less exactly what you could go online and buy right now. The one thing she is super particular about? Scratches. She hates riding a scratched bike and she jokes that if it gets scratched while racing she's depressed for the rest of the race (although that doesn't seem to slow her down).

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Renthal are adamant that there is no stiffness difference between their 31.8 and 35mm bars - for years they resisted producing a 35mm bar as they didn't see an advantage in it, but with the rising popularity of 35mm bars on OE spec they felt they had to follow what their customers were looking for so they weren't forced to replace the whole cockpit if they wanted to run their bars. Cecile runs a 30mm rise bars at 760mm wide. A 31mm stem with no spacers below it and a -1 degree angle adjust headset cup.

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile runs SRAM Code RSCs with 200mm rotors front and rear as she likes a good, strong brake.
Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Crankbrothers Mallets are a simple, sturdy option for the pedals

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Nothing wild in the drivetrain department - it should come as no surprise that one of SRAM's top enduro athletes is using AXS Eagle. Up front she varies between 30 and 34t rings (32t here), depending on the course. An e*thirteen chaingide holds it all together when things get wild; she is one of the few riders theses days who opt to run a lower bash guard.

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Fork
Pressure 80PSI
Tokens 1 Token
Compression Open
Rebound Medium

Shock
Spring 350LB Superalloy Racing
Compression Open
Rebound Medium

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile usually runs a coil as around the South of France as it's really rocky and she finds it more dynamic. In general she says she likes to run her suspension with very light compression to give it room to breathe, but runs her bikes with a pretty stiff setting as she finds it more precise.

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
A Fabric saddle perches atop her SRAM Reverb AXS seatpost.

Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
Cecile Ravanel profile. Montaroux France. Photo by Matt Wragg
A long-term Hutchinson athlete, she is running a Toro front and a Racing Lab prototype rear tyre - the compound can be best described as fairly soft, but not exceptionally so. In terms of pressure she is at 1.5 bar (21 psi) in the front and 1.6 bar (23 psi) in the rear.



133 Comments

  • 161 10
 Frickin 5'8" and 132lbs dominantly pedaling to victory one of the heaviest (and possible most affordable aside from AXS) bikes on the circuit. As if we need any further proof that unlike road or XC, Enduro has no "competitive" body type and luckily, no need for an expensive light bike. Good riddance.
  • 51 0
 Did you know she won a XC world champ in her junior years?
  • 20 0
 @Euskafreez: Yep, and she built that into a career in Women's Elite XCO for 2009 through 2012, with a couple top 10 finishes, before switching to join the newly-formed EWS in 2013
  • 3 0
 She was also in the Olympics i believe.
  • 18 7
 just a nippy shredding machine
  • 17 1
 Good to see Commencal still keeping the poor man ports at their head tubes.
  • 4 0
 @chyu: Whatsacable?
  • 69 2
 I also like my suspension to be very stiff but also very soft
  • 19 0
 Cool, so I am not having a stroke.
  • 14 0
 I'm guessing her spring rate is stiff with minimal damping, but yeah the way it's written is super confusing.
  • 9 0
 Basically what it's trying to say is she uses the spring rate for all platform and all compression settings are wide open. I run my bike the same way.
  • 1 6
flag chyu (May 30, 2020 at 6:11) (Below Threshold)
 progressively linear. soft when hit small bumps, suddenly stiffen up when you land a 60ft drop.
  • 5 0
 @LaXcarp:
I would't and couldn't do that on my x2 and 36; but I am doing it on the SD and lyrik.
No to metion the fact that it took the best part of 10-12 minutes to arrive at the optimum set-up for me on the RSs, while on the kashimas, it took the best part of 3 days of riding, 2 bike-park days and 1 big ass hiking trail..only to be satisfied 90(fork)-to-95%(shock); ok, the super deluxe does not have the same....depth?!, amplitude?!..as the x2 but, as I said above, it took me 10 minutes to arrive at what I consider optimum set-up for me; the lyrik was a 2 minute job and the feeling of fork is definitely superior to my 36.
  • 2 0
 @eugenux: yeah, for my new bike I went with a Lyrik and a Float X2. I hope it doesn’t feel weird with the mismatched suspension
  • 2 0
 @BillyBoy0519:
I had the exact set-up on my 2017 GT Sanction. Felt perfect; and that was the old lyrik. The new one is much-much better. Sooo smooth and supple, it is unreal.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, that hurt to read. Dreadful use of the English language from someone paid to write.
  • 41 0
 I broke my neck last year too, as well as damaged my thoracic spine. I know how it feels Cecile! I’ve definitely lost a step. Coming up on the one year mark, I’m finally getting my confidence back on the bike. Feels good to be back!
  • 5 0
 What did you break? I fractured my C7 last August and it's been a very smooth recovery from that.
  • 17 0
 Welcome back Smile
  • 4 0
 I fracture a couple of thoracic vertebrae in 2012. I broke a couple of ribs and separated my shoulder, so I just assumed that all the pain was from that. Whoope
  • 56 0
 I chipped my toe nail once
  • 14 0
 @nyhc00: I fractured C7 Transverse process, and C6 facet joint. I have some disc issues in C1 and C2, as well as T4. Some nerve issues in my right side scapula and trapezius. My Leatt brace saved my neck from worse damage.

Overall I’m about 90% healed, some days I feel better too. So not too bad. The worst part is my confidence to hit jumps over 8-10ft or just getting loose and fast on techy trails. I’m learning to have fun on less gnarly stuff now.
  • 2 0
 @nyhc00: I broke the disks of C6 and C7 3 years ago, still having back pains.
  • 4 0
 @BeaverCreaker: "The worst part is my confidence to hit jumps over 8-10ft or just getting loose and fast on techy trails. I’m learning to have fun on less gnarly stuff now." same stuff here.
  • 4 0
 I see your single and/or double fractures and raise you my C2, T9, T10 and burst T12. Oh and a right ulna...in one go. Let’s all celebrate modern medicine and healing vibes to all of you who are still recovering. I’ve now had all my metal work removed and tbh, the main set back has been me becoming a right chicken. Then again, my wife is a lot more relaxed now that I don’t go too loopy on the bike.
  • 1 0
 I'm rocking an old broken C2 and continuous T-spine issues as well, life is never completely the same but you learn to work with it. Core strength, flexibility, chiropractic and massage keep me moving and in minimal pain these days. Once you figure out what works for you, stay on top of the routine and you'll be fine.
  • 3 0
 @BeaverCreaker: Dude, there is no disc between C1 and 2...not saying you didn't hurt something there but it wasn't a disc.
  • 1 0
 @greener1: Sorry Doc, I'm an idiot with anatomy. Maybe it's c2 and c3 then. I recently had a few more MRIs and they showed some disc slippage up there and somewhere in my upper thoracic, I think like T4. Doctors said not too bad, and could heal with some therapy. They were mainly looking at the nerve stuff coming off my c6 and c7, but everything looked pretty well healed up there. I notice issues up near C2 or whatever, it's basically the base of my skull. I've only had these 10 minute zoom doctors meetings now, and I never write any of it down, unless it's more serious dealing with the fractures.

I have the green light from them to ride and do everything, so it's not holding me back too much. I'm lucky it wasn't worse and that I healed as much as I have.
  • 1 0
 @vp27: yeah I shattered t4 t5 c6 and 67, also compression fractured 7 other vertebrae lower down, lost 1 1/2" in height , never fully recovered as I have nerve damage on my right side and cant grow muscle on my right tricep and upper right chest, I should be a full tetraplegic so im gratefull to be how I am, riding wise some days I go for it and some times I just bottle out , its a mental thing I cant seem to get over, mates say its just self preservation so don't push my luck so much,
this was the result of a motor bike crash in 96, broke 28 bones in one go, yeah it did hurt a bit
  • 1 0
 Keep going to physio, or whatever therapy you are doing once you can go again. I just passed 20yrs ago when I fractured and dislocated C3. Took a season off of rugby and returned full throttle.
I still have mobility issues (always will as C3-4 are fused and a bone graph/wiring around C3) but I’m not worried about re injuring my neck even though I’ve broken the wiring.
Proper mobility exercises and continuously doing them (which I didn’t do for the first 15yrs and paying the price now) will save you
Lots of issues later in life!
  • 3 0
 @BeaverCreaker: I'd say your Leatt brace saved your life!
  • 1 0
 @BeaverCreaker: always interesting to hear actual crash accounts when wearing a brace. I know a couple people who have had nasty crashes in braces, and their Docs confidently said that the brace significantly reduced the injury. I wear one if I'm riding faster stuff like parks and shuttle DH laps as my neck is already compromised.
  • 1 0
 It’s hard to say. I landed on the side of my face and shoulder and the impact went through my neck, more than my neck actually bending too much. I think it did help though, and the doctors seem to think it helped prevent worse damage as well.

I wish they made neck protection that was effective without the need of a full face.
  • 75 56
 Must be cold in France atm
  • 61 51
 Jesus bud. It’s 2020, grow up.
  • 38 24
 I see primary school is out for summer..
  • 19 28
flag kizzard-ling (May 29, 2020 at 17:51) (Below Threshold)
 @rfcook: exactly, its a joke, GrOw Up
  • 15 3
 Nothing wild in the drivetrain- except the top of the line wirelss system from SRAM that has a $1000 cassette. What would actually qualify as wild?

It's nice to see at least one company that will be honest about the BS behind larger diameter bar clamps. Renthal has always been solid.
  • 2 0
 I agree. Also, I don't know about you, but for me the wireless set up is clean but it still looks kinda weird without wires coming off the controls. Maybe one day companies will mold these down to a sleeker look and the cable frame guides should blend in color with the frame color, IMO.
  • 2 0
 @TW80: Yeah I'm sure they will slim them down really fast as they evolve new models. I actually just pulled the trigger on an AXS post. I dont have it yet but it seems pretty sweet being able to bleed out the air with a button and swap it from bike to bike so easily. I would never say it's not wild though, because it sure as hell is wild having wireless activated moving parts on a bike!
  • 5 1
 "they had to follow what their customers were looking " : Nobody asked for 35mm alloy bars, they are overly rigid, feels like a pickaxe handle.
  • 9 2
 Don't get me wrong, I'd quite like an AXS drivetrain, but what exactly is there to write about it in a bike check like this? It's standard kit that has already been featured heavily in the media and is available to consumers, so there's little for me to say that isn't already in the SRAM product catalogue.
  • 5 1
 @mattwragg: you used the wrong adjective. Maybe shouldve said "nothing unusual" or "nothing uncommon" rather than "nothing wild", as axs is quite wild still, but not unusual or uncommon at this level.

It is ok to admit a shortfall rather than making pointless arguments about product catalogues, which still doesnt disprove the fact that axs is still quite wild technology.
  • 3 0
 @mattwragg: You're right about there not being much to write about it, I just still think we can consider AXS pretty wild stuff.
  • 2 0
 Not only renthal is keeping it real, syntace also; probably others as well.
  • 9 1
 That Acros top cap mixed with the Cane creek HS is driving me nuts, most likely because i've had such a bad time with Acros headsets. Clearly it's not slowing Cecile down...
  • 5 0
 People say they are good headsets but mine have also given me nothing but trouble. The bearings just don't hold up like the Cane Creek ones.
  • 2 0
 @Sbalaji5: BroJam, no issues with the stock FSA headset on my Transition. I mean, I'm not throwing bar spins but I ride hard and uncontrollable on the rocky $hit, no issues.
  • 1 0
 Works components makes nice ones. I have a couple and no problems at all.
  • 6 2
 I own a 2020 Meta AM 29 too... I'm 10kg heavier as Cecile but run the same Coil springrate an 5psi LESS in the Fork! She runs a very very stiff setup in my opinion. Super interesting. And for all bike weight freaks out there... my Meta in size Large with Coil shock and DMR Vault pedals weight exactly 15,5kg...this is not bad for a aluminum 29er enduro bike. I'm not the strongest person but I ride trips with 35km and a bit over 1000m altitude.
  • 4 1
 The Hightower in the 3000$ test field weighted 16kg.

With less travel and no coil shock... 15,5kg isnt that high considering the performance
  • 5 2
 Am I alone in being completely confused by this quote?

"In general she says she likes to run her suspension with very light compression to give it room to breathe, but runs her bikes with a pretty stiff setting as she finds it more precise."
  • 25 0
 Sprint rate vs fluid rate (compression)
  • 16 1
 Light compression (as i think) has a better oil flow and so the whole damper works smoother than with lower pressure yet more compression

Try running less sag (more Air pressure) but less compression- feels way nicer imho
  • 4 0
 Low compression damping with higher pressure?
  • 1 0
 It makes sense if u realize while they influence/affect each other spring rate and damping are independent
  • 1 0
 @NotNamed: And the medium rebound is crucial imo. I'm the same height and weight as Cecile (very light) and run almost the same suspension setup in every way, the only difference being 5 less psi in the fork for me, but getting to that middle rebound range has been the game changer. It makes it feel like I have a little extra mass. Would go so far as to recommend light weight folks try a setup like this if possible.
  • 1 2
 It's hard to say what she means without knowing her settings but I think there are ways to interpret it.
Light low-speed compression damping, heavy high-speed compression damping.
Light compression damping overall and higher air pressure.
Light compression damping, light rebound damping (stays high in travel but feels harsher on the hands).
Light compression damping, heavy rebound damping (sits deeper in the travel, possibly smoother in the hands but less travel to work with).
Personally, I'm a fan of light compression damping, medium rebound damping, and I would probably describe it similarly to her. Soft over bumps but stiff over chatter.
  • 2 0
 its called 'journalistic flourish'.
  • 2 0
 @KxPop:
This is a Lyrik, so if there hasn´t been any massive tuning, "compression full open" means nothing.
Same goes for the Superdeluxe, without knowing which tune it has, the LSC may have quite a lot damping even with LSC open - should be a ML on Commencal I think. My SD is a takeoff from a Meta.

I dont know the Lyrik she has (2021?), but mine and the RC2/Ultimate of my buddies are always really low on compression (and you cant tell if its the LSC or the HSC anyway with those Charger dampers). SO you ride on the spring or else the fork is diving deep, which means quite high pressure in the Debonair (is this 2021 or the 2020?).
With 205lbs I ride 80psi too (at 170mm), so her 80psi might be a bit different.
  • 8 1
 That is how Cecile describes her suspension, and I don't see what is confusing about running a firm air side and low compression damping - favouring either the spring or the hydraulic side gives the suspension a different feel. And we included her settings in the grey box - and I'm pretty confident saying that a 60kg rider running 80PSI in her fork is an aggressive setup (not that it should be surprising for a rider as good as Cecile).
  • 1 0
 @mattwragg: would be interesting to know which version/year her Lyrik/Superdeluxe are. 2021?ML tune?
  • 1 0
 @gemma8788: me lighter too, and I usually run hardly any rebound damping. So your saying to add rebound, to slow it down?
  • 2 0
 @cxfahrer: top sram racer, possibly she is on custom tune front and rear and i wouldn’t rule out some blackbox trickery inside the units Wink
  • 2 0
 Not confusing. I run all my suspension the same way. Stiff air spring but wide open compression settings. I also weigh 150lb so maybe it's a thing us smaller people do
  • 5 1
 @cxfahrer: As Cecile is a Blackbox athlete I would guess she is on next years air spring and tune in the shock, the fork hydraulics will probably be stock, SRAM generally don't like their athletes to play with the internals beyond that and I don't think the Ravanels have anyone inhouse working in that way.
  • 1 0
 I find natural methane gas creates a dynamic riding platform.
  • 1 0
 @cxfahrer:

I'm around 186-187 lbs and ride 82 psi in my 2021 lyrik, with the compresions fully open and 3 volume spacers; and I'm your average mediocre rider, not the enduro agressive one. Probably you're undersprung and you need to speed up that rebound a little. Cheers!
  • 1 0
 @jjhobbs: only if you run a setup like Cecile's, preferring higher air pressure and lower compression. that's when dialing in some healthy rebound will bring balance and control to this setup (imo obviously).
  • 2 0
 @eugenux: No, 80psi are fine for me, it is the "old" Debonair from 2018 with a slightly smaller negative chamber. No token, LSC halfway closed to get some HSC Wink ...
  • 1 0
 @cxfahrer:
Sorry, I just realized that I dropped 6 Psi when I added the 3rd volume spacer. So now, it is at around 75-76 psi.
I had the 2017 Lyrik as well and the new charger and new air shaft really do make a difference. To upgrade the cartrige is pretty expensive but the air shaft is 36 euros. I strongly recommend it.
  • 1 0
 @gemma8788: sounds worth a try though, thanks
  • 1 0
 @gemma8788: just rode on new set up, ran rebound right in the middle,f&r, felt great..may even add more air.. cheers mate
  • 4 0
 Also 1,73 with a 30mm rise, 76 width renthal, although in 31,8, not so cool but still is stiff AF, and I have a phobia for carbon bars. Amazing bike, great value and welcome back Champ
  • 1 0
 What's keeping you away from carbon bars?
  • 2 0
 @Rodeodave:, I crash from time to time, so I have concerns that it will get damaged (no visual) and snapp on a drop landing or something
  • 1 0
 I have (the same) 780mm carbon syntace for 4 years now, this being the 5th. Crashed a lot; the bars are still going strong. Just don't buy the low tech cheap ones.
  • 5 0
 Fun fact, that drivetrain is nearly twice as expensive as the Meta AM 29 frame. Actually the frame is one of the least expensive single items on this build
  • 6 0
 I guess PJ’s are the “new normal” for Pros too huh?
  • 3 0
 He'll yea
  • 8 3
 Image > Adjustments > Brightness and Contrast
  • 2 0
 Haha - yeah first thing I did was turn my monitor brightness up and then realized it wasn't me.
  • 3 0
 An overcast day in Montaroux, France.
  • 1 14
flag fullendurbro (May 29, 2020 at 12:58) (Below Threshold)
 That's pathetic, dude. Grow up and get a life.
  • 6 2
 Never heard of a 31.6mm handlebar before - must be a new standard optimized for to downcountry bikes running 36" wheels?
  • 5 0
 maybe next time a photo with the dog in front of the bike?
  • 12 2
 No one is looking at the dog in that photo...
  • 2 0
 I didn't even notice there was a dog. Now I'm like aw I wanna see doggo.
  • 3 0
 Bike Check: She has the entirety of SRAM's and RockShox's parts catalog on her bike.

End Bike Check.
  • 3 0
 Impeccable aesthetics and color scheme
  • 3 0
 Stoked to see an Eibach spring
  • 2 2
 If there wasn´t that ugly adapter for the SD because of the threads running out.
I had to put a fat sticker on mine too, because that huge plastic thingy is so ugly.
  • 2 0
 No Matchmaker for the AXS shifter and the code brakes?
  • 1 0
 I only see one clamp for shifter/right brake? Maybe you're looking at the dropper lever/brake? Even so, probably have them (because they have it for the other side), but maybe she didn't like the position.
  • 1 0
 Not diggin the frame cable guides color mismatch.
  • 2 0
 -1 angleset hmmm makes me wonder if that fork has a reduced offset?
  • 3 0
 HA is 65.5 stock... I could easily see her wanting it at 64.5
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: me too but if I was going slacker id want a 44mm offset fork. I often wonder how the bike would be with that set up
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: Actually Commencal weirdly quotes de 65.5° HA with a 160mm fork, which they don't even sell the bike with. So all the AM 29s they sell have indeed a 65° HA.
Also, isn't the angleset lower cup higher stack Vs stock? If so, assuming it's a +5mm stack then that's about an extra 0.5° of slackness on top of the -1°
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: +5mm of stack is actually closer to -0.2 degrees headangle on most bikes
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: Yes, you're totally right, I messed up that don't know why.
Still, my point is that this geometry adjustment headset thing is not as simple as it appears.
Like some reach adjust headsets, marketed as a +5mm reach, but then a bit stack lower cup eats that up
  • 1 0
 But she is riding an Angleset from Cane Creek...hummmm 0.5, 1 or 1.5 less or more?
  • 2 0
 The caption says -1
  • 1 0
 It says she’s on of the few to run a lower bash guard, why would that be?
  • 2 0
 This dog must be a great ride budy.
Great shot btw Wink
  • 1 0
 @mattwragg Do you have any more details on the -1 degree headset cup? Keen to try one on my AM29
  • 2 0
 I don't dare about the rider or the bike.. show me that DOG!
  • 2 1
 whaou, look very cool with less cables
  • 2 1
 total weight of the build?
  • 11 1
 Heavy
  • 3 0
 It's not bad. Probably 33-34 pounds as mine is a nearly identical build but a larger size and is 35 pounds.
  • 4 0
 @fullendurbro: Mine weighs in at 34lbs with Shimano XT 12spd Groupset and alloy wheels/bars size large. It doesn't feel any heavier than my 32lb carbon Trek Slash that i came from.
  • 2 0
 My Meta in size Large weights with Coil and pedals 15,5kg
  • 1 0
 how does the bike ride and corner?
  • 1 0
 That color!
  • 2 2
 That saddle tho Drool
  • 3 4
 Cool bike but hate the color.
  • 2 5
 There must successful Enduro athlete runs coil yet you can't buy one with a coil? Or that paintjob. Go figure!
  • 5 0
 You must be new to the fact that pro athletes get next year's model frames far before anyone else.
  • 1 2
 You probably can't buy one with a coil because of logistics issues on Commencal's end. When those bikes leave Asia, they are designed not to be touched again until by the owner. When you order one, its my understanding that they are rarely "custom assembling" them. Your bike has been sitting in a box for months. Coil shocks would require numerous spring rates, or else owners would need to change springs on arrival. I'm not sure you could even do a "no shock" option.
  • 7 0
 @PHeller: you can use the "A la carte" method and order with no shock, super deluxe coil, or Fox DHX2.
  • 1 0
 @Ccouch5859: uhhh so what's the problem @KristanMcClure
  • 1 0
 @PHeller: Just an observation. In 2019 range they did a couple of builds with the coil and this year there isn't one. Excluding a la carte obviously. Just thought Commencal would capitalize on a 'you can have a bike just like Cecile' sketch. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
  • 1 0
 @KristanMcClure: that would be rad if there were special editions like that. Make them so you can only buy them in her size LOL
  • 1 1
 This bike is not well suited for coil (and I own one with coil). You need quite a stiff spring and then bike is ultra sporty. This is good for racers, but too harsh for Joeys.
  • 1 0
 That's weird, they even have a Meta TR coil option but not AM.
www.commencal-store.co.uk/meta-tr-29-sx-2020-c2x29150687
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