Bike Check: Dangerholm's Insanely Light Scott Spark

Nov 11, 2020
by Gustav Gullholm  


Numbers can be a funny thing. They don't need to have any significant meaning to our lives, yet they can serve as significant motivation. Maybe it's a time you really want to beat on a trail section or maybe you've set a goal to one day lift a certain amount of weight at the gym. Maybe you want your savings account to one day display a certain figure or maybe you really look forward to that 6-pack of (non alcoholic, right?) beer this weekend.

Either way, we tend to set a number as a goal and it gives us a little extra drive and meaning to work towards something.

In this case it's about building a 29" XC/Marathon bike with a total weight below 8kg. Or 17.64lbs if you prefer the imperial system.

To put this number in perspective it's around 15-20% lighter than most XC full suspension bikes that you see under World Cup riders. The same goes for complete stock bikes with price tags that would make even your favorite dentist think twice before buying. Going from 10kg to 9kg is quite alright, but if you want to have a bike weighing 8.5kg you really need to put some thought into it. To push it below 8kg, on the other hand, is downright difficult. At least if you want it to actually ride well, and to me there's no point otherwise.

So that meant a no-cheating and no-shortcuts approach. The weight had to include pedals, GPS mount, bottle cage and not to forget - proper tires. It won't matter how light your bike is if you have zero grip or get a flat from looking at your tires the wrong way.

But we're getting all technical here. It's not all about numbers, the bike had to look great as well. Truly super light bikes tend to have a literally raw and stripped down look. They're minimalistic to the extreme and to see paint on one is not something you can expect. I know better than most since I've been there myself with my World's Lightest 29ers a few years back. So this time I wanted to go for a more normal appearance with a full paint job and no custom integrated parts. Part of the goal was to make the people see right away that it's a special bike, without really being able to see what makes it so special before taking a closer look.

And it sure is worth taking that closer look because there are interesting details in abundance. You have everything from textile spokes to an 8 gram bottle cage made out of hollow carbon tubes. And if synthetic fiber cables for the suspension remote isn't enough to grab your attention, how about a titanium shift cable?


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Components

Frame and Fork
The Rosso Corsa painted frame is a Scott Spark RC SL featuring 100mm of remote controlled travel. This is the lightest version, which more specifically is called HMX SL in their carbon fiber hierarchy. Designing and building a lightweight yet strong carbon frame is of course a science in itself, but the short version is that a higher quality carbon fiber means less material/resin and combined with a good layup design it results in a top level frame. This specific frame weighs 1761.9g including the rear shock and all the hardware. Also, that includes some 70 grams of beautiful red paint. Except for a lighter axle the only changes made are a carbon fiber derailleur hanger and cable insert from Hopp Carbon Parts.

Up front is a matching Fox 32 SC Factory that has seen a little bit of weight shaving via a new axle and carbon air cap. Running no quick release I could also remove the little plate and screw that holds the threaded axle insert in place, saving a couple of grams while also making it look a lot cleaner.

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Cockpit
What first catches your eyes is perhaps the quite massive looking stem. It's a Schmolke TLO in 80mm and its box section design helps the stiffness to weight ratio. Despite its looks the weight is just 80.3g and I can tell you it feels quite ridiculous when you hold it in your hand. Along with the carbon design and production method, part of the low weight is thanks to the very trick titanium hardware. You may think you're seeing regular screws holding that face plate in place, but actually you have threaded pins sitting hinged and molded into the stem section. Then you use titanium torx nuts when tightening the handlebars down. An efficient and durable method because this way they don't have to mold threaded inserts into the stem.

On top there's a sleek looking plug instead of a traditional top cap. To save weight a regular expander and top cap is used for installation and to preload the headset. They're then removed and replaced with the plug that weighs just a single gram.

Please note that this is a custom setup that is not generally recommended. A standard top cap can sometimes help prevent headset play, and some manufacturers specifically state that a spacer of at least 1-3mm must be installed on top of the stem. This goes for the Schmolke stem used here, so please don't follow my lead and always read and go by the installation manual.

The handlebars are Schmolke TLO as well, in 720mm width coming in at 105.3g. At the ends there are foam grips from Extralite, who also makes the headset.

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Seat Combo
Matching the carbon cockpit is a Schmolke TLO seat post with a TLO 55 seat. As the name suggests the latter weighs just 55.2g while having a 100kg rider weight limit. Remember that for XC/Marathon riding padding doesn't necessarily equal comfort. The important thing is to find the right shell shape for you, and a carbon seat has the benefit of way less friction between your bibs and the seat itself. If the pointy looking rear end scares you off, they do also have a much rounder design model as long as you can live with that one being 20 grams heavier. It can even be had with padding, but we shall not speak about such blasphemous things in this weight weenie feature.

While you may think the seat post puts the seat halfway to the moon it's actually a standard 400mm in length. It's held in place by a Tune Würger Skyline seat clamp, unfortunately not in production anymore, but one of my favorite components of all time.

Why no dropper? While dropper seat posts can be both practical and fun to ride with, they're not really a must for every kind of riding or every track. The bike is of course prepared to run one though, and while the rigid Schmolke post will be used most of the time the bike would still be very lightweight with one. For example using a BikeYoke Divine SL dropper would put it at around 8.4kg or 18.52lbs.

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Brakes
Trickstuff Piccola has been the lightest brakes on the market for several years now while still delivering a surprising amount of stopping power. But true to the spirit of the often detail obsessed (no wonder I like them) high-end section of the German bike industry there's always room for improvement. The latest version has Carbon added to the name which of course means new lighter lever blades. The brake caliper has also been redesigned for weight savings and performance improvements. They still keep their trademark smooth and light lever feel and with carbon clamps from Hopp the set weighs a mere 323.2g.

All screws are titanium Extralite and the wispy looking brake discs are an old set of Ashima Ai2. Certainly not the most performance oriented discs, I haven't had any luck together with other brakes, but they do actually work very well with the Piccola's. You have a lot of initial punch, but to no big surprise they heat up quickly so if you plan on doing some really long descents you better not drag your brakes.

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Drivetrain
At the front of this very special drivetrain there is a THM Clavicula M3 crankset. THM is not yet a common sight on mountain bikes, but the company, which was founded in 1996, is quite legendary in the road bike world especially for their state of the art carbon cranksets. The left side crank arm interface especially is a personal favorite aesthetic detail on the bike. This Clavicula M3 (yes, they name their products after bones in the human body) weighs 334.3g and it has a 36T Garbaruk chainring attached. There's an optional 38T too for when the pedal pistons need a challenge.

The cassette is an 11-speed 10-46T also from Garbaruk. While 12-speed is quite standard these days and is of course a nice thing, 11-speed still works great and is obviously a bit lighter.

A lot of time was spent on tuning the SRAM XX1 derailleur. Stock it weighs around 245g, but after a lot of work it came in at 179.9g. The pulley wheels were changed to Extralite, but most of the weight savings needs to be credited to carbon upgrades. Both the B-knuckle and parallelogram come from Hopp, as do the carbon fiber pins replacing the steel pins usually holding the parallelogram itself together.

It really was a fight to drop the last few grams to bring the bike down below 8kg, and as a final resort I brought out the titanium shift cable. The cost to weight saving ratio is probably even worse than you can imagine, but it does save a few grams. Cable housing can also be a hidden weight saver, and here I use a version with an aluminum core instead of steel.

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Wheels and Tires
A highlight on the bike is the textile spokes of the PiRope Sub 1.1 wheels. Developed in Germany, and not to be confused with other fiber spokes, they are made from Vectran and use a proprietary fastening system. Not only are they lightweight, they are actually extremely strong and provide enough wheel stiffness to make them suitable for enduro wheels too. At one end they are threaded into the hub shell and at the other a threaded section goes through the rim and a nut sits on the inside of the rim to allow the spokes to be tensioned.

The rims are also made in Germany by Bike Ahead Composites. With a 24mm inner width, which is just enough for XC tires they weigh an incredible 265g per rim. All in all the complete wheelset weighs 1020.9g with a 100kg max rider weight limit.

As mentioned earlier the bike needed good tires and the choice fell on the trusty Schwalbe Racing Ray and Racing Ralph combo in 2.25" width. The front- and rear-specific treads give good traction and cornering grip for most conditions and they have been setup tubeless with Syncros sealant.

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Additional Details
The suspension remote is a standard Scott Twinloc but it's running with the aluminum cable housing and synthetic fiber cables. The cables are PowerCordz, which are not in production anymore, but I had one last set to use for this bike. These cables have a plastic surface sheath that would be damaged if you try to fasten it as you would a regular steel cable. So a bit of extra plastic and a knot at the end allows for less screw pressure while still keeping it in place.

Since I had decided that the total weight must include a GPS mount and a bottle cage there were of course grams to be saved in that area too. Another German specialist is CarbonWorks who introduced their incredibly light bottle cage a few years back. It weighs just 8.0g including the screws. The trick to it is that it's made with hollow carbon tubes which makes it surprisingly strong and stiff. Another one of those things that feels just ridiculous to hold in your hand. They also make super light GPS mounts for various stems, including the Schmolke stem used here.

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Why Build Such a Bike?
I once let a good friend of mine who's a national level racer take my old super light Spark for a quick spin. He came back just shaking his head, saying "It was like accelerating on a road bike". And that is a big part of what makes a bike like this both extremely fun and fast in certain situations. The bike becomes so responsive and quick feeling, which is especially noticeable in technical climbs. The bike climbs with minimal effort and you can move it around super easily.

With that said, it's probably not a bike for everyone. While being very durable for what it is, the bike still comes with a few rider weight limitations. The titanium pedal spindles have a 85kg limit, the wheel set 95kg and the seat a 100kg limit for example. But even if certain components were to be changed or reinforced for say a 110kg all around limit, it would still be a very lightweight bike. And technical things like that aside, perhaps you prefer a heavier bike. But either way I still wish you all could test ride a bike this light because it sure doesn't really compare to anything else.

So why did I personally build it? Simple - a bike like this is a ton of fun to ride. It inspires you to do climbs and go for long fast rides or races. And while I'm no contender for the Olympics who really needs such a super bike, having fun riding a great bike is something for everyone.
Also, being a bike enthusiast at heart, once I've forgotten about all the work hours that went into building it I will enjoy just seeing it parked at home looking fast.

There are plenty more builds to come so feel free to keep up with them all via my Instagram. But first - let us know what you think in the comments!
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Warning and disclaimer:
Please keep in mind that any modifications such as paint stripping, repainting, sanding or in any way modify frames, components or safety equipment is potentially dangerous and can lead to crashes and injuries. It will always void any and all warranties, and is strongly advised against by SCOTT Sports and all other manufacturers, who take no responsibility. It is not recommended to put any travel fork on any frame, if unsure of the fork travel limit for your frame always consult a dealer or the brand directly first. If you choose to modify your bike anyway, always make sure to do so with safety in mind and remember the points above.


243 Comments

  • 445 8
 Came in for the thighs, left disappointed...
  • 48 153
flag pinhead907 (Nov 11, 2020 at 7:11) (Below Threshold)
 Came in hoping to see the bike and no awkward euro short shorts...
  • 196 0
 The Quadfather of MTB
  • 10 0
 Accidental downvote, sorry. Came for the shorts, oh well...
  • 4 2
 Insert vacuum sucking noises
  • 37 13
 @pinhead907: Red neck has never seen the other side of the ocean? Judging by your words.
  • 3 0
 To be fair, right at the beginning he said "No shorts, cats!"
  • 11 1
 @Cura: hey man, I’ll say I’m a murrican and I have some shorts maybe shorter than his.
  • 3 36
flag me2menow (Nov 11, 2020 at 9:01) (Below Threshold)
 We want LEGS and WEINER!! WOOOOOO -Pinkbike Commenter under Dangerholm article, unaware of Playgirl
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flag DaFreerider44 (Nov 11, 2020 at 9:36) (Below Threshold)
 @Cura: He doesn't want no commie shorts
  • 13 51
flag Muckal (Nov 11, 2020 at 10:03) (Below Threshold)
 @DaFreerider44: beware of the socialist president elect. With the emphasis being on 'elect'.
  • 7 6
 @Cura: He doesn't realize that in most European countries, shorts aren't worn if you aren't engaged in some sort of sporting activity. Neither is deodorant.
  • 7 2
 @Cura: take a joke for the love of God. I've been to every continent except antarctica. Several continents multiple times.
  • 4 2
 @Cura: and, I guess, I'll add that I've been to Australia, too, incase we want to get picky about continent and subcontinent.
  • 32 1
 I think is funny that Dangerholm is obsessed with making crazy light bikes when he could probably pedal a dead e-bike up a mountain not problem.
  • 5 2
 @pinhead907: username checks out
  • 1 0
 @Spark24: ha! You win, my friend.
  • 11 0
 @Spark24: Me: Happily writes an article thinking it'll be fine it's just about the bike.
Me (and my quads) 10 minutes later checking the first few comments: "Just when I thought I was out... They pull me back in!"
  • 3 0
 @pinhead907:

Curious as to when Australia is ever referred to as a sub-continent?
  • 11 0
 Come for the quads, stay for the mods
  • 109 1
 What's with the heavy-ass paint?
  • 109 1
 Did someone say ass paint?
  • 110 1
 That was my first thought too. How the f___ am I supposed to climb with paint on the frame? What a friggin boat anchor.
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flag me2menow (Nov 11, 2020 at 13:29) (Below Threshold)
 Jokes aside, paint weighs like a pound
  • 9 1
 @me2menow: paint does not weigh 1 pound. The article says the paint is about 70 grams.
  • 4 6
 @bishopsmike: Ok, that's in this specific case. I've seen many instances where it can weigh a full pound.
  • 54 0
 A bike painted in racing red can do a 1 minute sprint in 59 seconds.
  • 5 0
 @bishopsmike: That 70 grams is like a whole watt. DIsGusTAng.
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 @me2menow:

A pound of paint weights a pound, but they use far less than that on a bike frame.

How could you possibly think that to be true?
  • 1 1
 @hllclmbr: I've seen many pictures of rawed frames weighed before and after. Likewise I know of a couple manufacturers that offer unpainted finishes on their carbon frames. Their stated weight differences are roughly just under a pound. I know you're doubting me based on nothing, but believe it or not, it's true.
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 @me2menow:

Sigh.

Check this out. A gallon of paint weights 4 pounds when wet and about 3.5 when dry.

Have you ever painted anything? Because it sure would never ever take third of a gallon of paint to cover a bike frame, even if you gave it five+ coats for some crazy reason.
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 @hllclmbr: Look, I'm sure your logic is reasonable, but I know what I know and I'm not going to keep arguing with someone online about something that's a matter of fact. I dont really care enough to convince you any further
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 @me2menow: 1/8th to 1/4 of a pound seems reasonable for a thick glossy painted frame: weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36243
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 @bishopsmike: that forum has people claiming 200-400g for paint on size L road bikes. Mountain frames typically have a lot more surface area. Seems consistent.
  • 1 0
 @bicyclerider: And cops will ticket a lot faster.
  • 105 2
 That seatpost looks long enough to measure the features at rampage
  • 97 0
 Sorry, seems I couldn’t find the huck-to-flat video?!
  • 3 0
 huck to flat 1 feet drop or 2 feet drop xD
  • 85 0
 Hoping to use some of his ideas to get my incoming meta under 17kg all built up
  • 12 0
 I can keep my Meta under 17 if I only fill the water bottle to 200ml.
  • 5 1
 You gonna have a meta with no dropper xc tires? Sounds fun
  • 4 1
 You gotta have (what appears to be) balsa wood spokes like this one, to start.
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 Mine is about 16.3 with flat pedals and no tire inserts. Light weight
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 Mine is exactly 16kg, medium meta am. Dh casing and all. But I haven’t installed a dropper yet.
  • 2 0
 Commecals are heavy. But dope.
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 Haha I read 17lbs at first I was like good luck with that.
  • 1 0
 I have the 2018 Meta TR 27 (they stopped making it for some very silly reason) and it comes in under 14 KG. The AM would be hella overkill for Ontario.
  • 57 1
 It's not a Spark. It's just a flicker.
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 Nice;-)
  • 33 0
 Something about no logo’s on the frame and forks, just makes it more awesome
  • 6 0
 they were too heavy
  • 16 2
 This bike only has 1 fork
  • 31 1
 Just oiling the chain would have it over the 8kg mark!
  • 47 1
 Drivetrain wear is just additional material removal - a win win situation!
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 @MaplePanda: very good might want to remove the grease from all the bolts too.
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 @Billythemtb: No - corrosion would bind in atmospheric oxygen, adding weight.
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 @MaplePanda: Ahhhh but... Corrosion, if left long enough, will eventually fall off.
Short term pain, for long term gain!
  • 23 0
 Titanium shift cable!? why did i never think of that! *checks price* oh, that's why.
  • 2 0
 I actually considered buying these in 2016 already when I was about to build those "World's Lightest 29ers" but just couldn't motivate it. But after 4 years of kinda wanting them I figured I should simply rip the bandaid off and just get them. Because of course they're only sold in sets of two, sigh... Haha.
  • 3 2
 This one doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Modern steel is often stronger than Ti, and I break shift cables often enough as is.

There's a reason not many springs are made from Titanium anymore. And the lightest tube-set Reynolds offers is actually their 953 Stainless Steel. The only advantage Ti has over modern steel alloys is corrosion resistance and strength at extremely high temperatures.

Edit* Looked up the weights and it looks like i was correct.

Here's a video showing actual weights.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftiKa080F8

Shimano XTR Shift cable is 9g per meter.
(Reff. weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=cables )

KCNC Ti cable is 15g for 2m ( fairwheelbikes.com/kcnc-titanium-cables )

So you save 3grams and have a weaker, less-reliable product. The video actually shows a stock shimano Dura-ace cable (The best there is) at 16g's, so 1g more than a ti cable. This is well within the margin of error.
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 @z-man: I go through Dura Ace cables about every 2-3 months on my road bike. I can't imagine the idea of saving 3 grams for something that probably has to be replaced every race.
  • 20 0
 Im always amazed at how much thought goes into these, and how many crazy lightweight parts there actually are out there.

Just make sure to not get any dirt on there or you’re gonna be over the 8kg weight again lol
  • 5 0
 Cheers! And don't forget the 10% weight increase by putting a water bottle on it haha.
  • 20 1
 All that weight saving... but he kept the Twinloc????? But, as I started riding in the late 80s, I'm glad there are still some extreme weight weenies around...
  • 3 0
 Looking at this bike it seems that it the idea was to get a superlight XC race ready bike. Without sacrificing any performance. As someone who races XC (with a twinlock btw.) I would never remove it for racing. I don't think that its coincidence or marketing that almost all XC race bikes have remote lockouts.
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 @rjhayter While it comes down to personal preference in the end, I'd never build a XC bike without a remote (or some sort of automatic lockout system). It's just too important for me as a performance feature. But if you've been riding since the 80's that's for sure not the craziest thing you've seen haha. Cheers!
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flag z-man (Nov 11, 2020 at 17:41) (Below Threshold)
 You kind of need to with the Nude shock. The remote not only adjusts the damping, but also the air volume on the rear shock. He should've ditch the Nude altogether as well as the remote. Either way it's a fucking stupid build.
  • 13 0
 I love these builds and a great video as well - a million miles away from what I'd need in a bike, but the dedication and engineering is fascinating. The aftermarket bike bits scene in Germany is wild - I've seen a guy running a set of those pi-rope wheels laced to a set of Newmen rims on his enduro bike and really intrigued by them.
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 I run them since february with the newmen 30 rims and they are amazing.They have taken quite some beating but are still absolutely flawless. The acceleration even with enduro tires is fantastic. After this experience I am 100% sure my next wheelset will be a Pi Rope again.
The service of Pi Rope is top as well.
  • 2 0
 @clamps81 Thanks man, I appreciate it.
  • 16 3
 Textile spokes are further proof that spokes work by tension not compression.
  • 1 0
 Why arent more people running them? I see the companies advertise them as dropping substantial weight off of a wheelset, but I don't see a single wheelset in real life. Whats up w/ that
  • 8 0
 You needed more proof?
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 @ChrisNJ: I rode through some bushes today and idk if I'd be down the textile spokes
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 @ChrisNJ: Cost for humans, sponsors for pros.
  • 13 1
 We’ve seen you make like 10 lightweight sparks, how about changing it up and making the heaviest Spark?
  • 4 1
 Yeah he needs to try something new. How about the lightest no carbon genius build.
  • 11 0
 Used to be an annual ride in Nelson BC up to Baldface Lodge and back to town. There was a prize for heaviest bike to complete it. I won it the first year on my Banshee. Next year's winner decided to take the prize by strapping a 24 of Kokanee to his bike. It obviously got lighter as the ride progressed.
  • 10 0
 Dude has built like $50k worth of bikes for himself in the last two years. Wish I had his time....and legs.????
  • 12 0
 Or 50K in bike budget.
  • 9 0
 Or 50K.
  • 4 0
 Yeah I'll take the 50k over the time and legs
  • 2 0
 He gets most of this stuff free now, for pimping it in articles like these.
  • 7 0
 Most of the time when I see a gorgeous bike, it makes me want to ride it. Not this one. I'm pretty sure I'd break something expensive and carbon just trying to check tire pressures. The cranks and stem: I'd stress out trying to torque those bolts!
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 I have clavicula dh cranks on my dh bike, do not stress, torque to spec, they will be fine : www.pinkbike.com/u/christiaan/blog/the-worlds-lightest-275-downhill-bike.html
  • 12 1
 That seat, ouch!
  • 1 0
 comfy looking, no?

I wonder if it's sized correctly to pop non-screw beer caps?
  • 5 0
 I'm using a Berk carbon seat on my road bike ( it's similar in weight to this one, also non padded), and it's the most comfortable seat I have EVER used.
IMO the more padding you have on a seat the more you will suffer in the long run since you are not using your sit bones.
  • 1 0
 @tonit91: Yup, My soft comfy motorcycle seat (which cause excruciating pain!!!!) was replaced with a custom seat that feels like a slab of cement in comparison. . . . all day comfort!
  • 2 0
 I'd like to try one, but not at that price lol. Would be cool if they had uber cheap units of another material to test the shape with.
  • 7 3
 That topcap shenanigans ruins the no shortcuts no cheating rule. Using ultra-lightweight components in a configuration specifically listed as "do not do this" is definitely cheating.

Why not ditch the lockout to drop even more weight and use a lightweight topcap to gain some safety?
  • 4 1
 It never ceases to amaze me just how much thought goes into every last intricate detail of a Dangerholm build. This might just be the perfect XC bike. I'm an XC racer myself and I can only dream how amazing this must feel when accelerating hard. It probably feels like the bike is barely even there. I mean just look at it. It's got barely any substance to it. What a beautiful machine!
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 Rapid acceleration comes from lighter wheels ie rotating mass.
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 @kingbike2: Same wheelset /tires on two bikes...same rider, the lighter bike is faster acceleration. Yes, rotating mass is a major factor. However, everything else is still being moved or put in motion. Mass counts regardless of where it is.
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 @bman33: true, given same total weight the bike with light wheels on a heavier frame will accelerate faster or at least feel faster.
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 Well said Ben. I sure like seeing Dangerholm's bike check's. Great job as always and under 18lbs for a full suspension bike is almost unbelievable. However, I just keep wondering if we might read some "Rodney Dangerfield" jokes...Seriously, the thought, effort and time that goes into his builds is mind blowing. I agree with Dangerholm, to ride a ridiculously light bike is amazing, especially when pedalling uphills, over obstacles or popping off jumps. Scott Spark's are extremely good at this and almost feels like you are cheating. I have Scott's lightest 120mm travel bike (Spark SL) but kinda of went the opposite route (adding some weight). I changed the syncros carbon seatpost for a oneup dropper and changed out the Thunder Burt Race tires for burlier 235 width Maxxis tires. I also changed to a 35 stem and bars (makes the front end feel much burlier). I went with Race Face Next carbon bars (760mm) and a shorter 60mm RF stem. I then changed out the Fox Factory 32 fork to a Fox Factory 34 SC fork which really made my Spark feel more capable and ride much smoother. After making this XC bike much more trail capable, with pedals (Time Atac Ti carbon) & carbon bottle cage (22g), it still weighs only 23.1lbs for size Large. Without a bottle cage, it would be under 23lbs. Here is a link to my bike album: www.pinkbike.com/u/RowdyAirTime/album
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 It’s a good thing you’re so light-hearted about the cost of such a build.
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 being light-hearted (and light-walleted) saves additional grams
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 You think he pays for it?
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 Maybe my favorite dangerholm bike... Or that gambler, or that other green gambler, or the BMXC, or that superlight spark... OK I can't choose they are all freakin sweet.
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 Make it lighter, remove the paint! RAW Carbon!
  • 6 0
 red bikes make you fast
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 As usual with Dangerholm, you get some of the finest, most thoughtful, purpose built bikes. Damn, THIS is a racing machine!
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 Congrats for the Project!

QUESTION & SUGESTION
I dare you to show the bike with a cleaner look! (meaning: without showing the cables!)

PS - I really would love to ride that bike, even if it would be on the parking! Wink
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 No cable bike is in the works, check his instagram
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 @Upduro: Sorry... don't have social media!
Over here, I'm more of a cave man, meaning : No photos, or "THINGS", more GOOO!!!
But thanks, Mr. Upduro! Kudos (is what most comment, right?)
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 Weight Weenie fiend. Before Pinkbike used to be on those forums on Starbike and was always amazed at the level of dedication to the scale. Cheers Dangerholm!!
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 Yes! Some truly amazing things has been posted on that forum over the years. Cheers!
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 Open question, perhaps better suited in a forum thread: have some of you looked at titanium hardware instead of the base hardware your full-sus frame comes with for bigger bikes?

I have been wondering how much weight would be saved and what the cost would be. Tried an online search but it's kind of finicky with the different terminologies and dimensions of such hardware, which I don't know.
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 depends on the bike and bolts but thatll save uo to 50gr or so in my experience. frame bolts are dangerous to swap because titanium is more likely to flex, and its hard to say which are made as well as the factory steel bolts. better bolt sells many custom ones. shifters, rotors, stem, etc are easy swaps. get stuff from aliexpress its cheap.
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 Well, I suppose the one good thing about it is at least the stem is pointing the correct direction. Normally they are doing an impression of an Aardvark. However, I would actually prefer a stem made from an Aardvark's nose at least its not made of cloth and glue.
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 About the spokes:
While I understand the theoretical benefits of string spokes, what are the practical implications for modern day Trailriding?
Can you jump them, do they have a place on am 150mm Trailbikes and the type of trail it's intended to succumb (Roots, rock gardens).
Do you have noticeable flex (for a hobby rider)?
How do they deal with sloppy riding and other-than-radial forces on the wheel?
How do they fail? Do they snap? Can you ride home with one torn?
  • 1 0
 check out the thread on MTBR in the wheels section "BERT spokes"
  • 1 0
 Could save even more weight without compromise: extralite bars and stem are lighter than what is used here. Darimo t1 loop post would be lighter. Darimo sub4 clamp also lighter and still in production. Rocket Ron liteskin in 2.25 would save 100g each. The Sid ultimate sl is lighter than the fox (and better too).
  • 1 0
 You could easily shave off another 400-500g by skipping primer/paint step: leave all carbon and fork raw. Or, just have one thin coat of clear to seal carbon/fork. It might not feel like much, but nice paint job is relatively heavy. I would leave frame raw (satin or matt) with high gloss mirror painted letters "Scott" and top coat fork clear so it doesn't oxidize, with black painted decals matching the rest of black on the bike...
  • 6 2
 Came in for the jorts, left disappointed...
  • 2 0
 big thigh on my end too
  • 5 1
 so whats the price? 16000 Eur?
  • 1 0
 Padding is overrated. I only have a padded seat on my enduro bike to preserve my "jewels" and thighs when I hit it from behind. All my other bikes are unpadded. I recently did a 300+ km ride on my road bike with no issues.
  • 3 0
 It’s amazing to think that a bottle of water would add 10% of weight to the bike! Amazing job!!
  • 1 3
 you mean 1%.
  • 1 0
 When are they going to make 50% water? 50% lighter
  • 2 0
 The combined engineering that goes into a bike like this is pretty insane. Not a weight weenie but I thoroughly enjoy these articles, looking forward to the next.
  • 3 0
 Amazing work. Great job again!
  • 4 1
 I really like the paint color and the lack of scary legs muscles.
  • 3 2
 While this is extreme, I think and hope lighter Enduro bikes in the 25-27lbs range will be one of the next technological advancements. Oh yeah, and for less than $5k
  • 1 0
 I agree, as many of us do not need one of these countless overbuilt heavy trail/enduro bikes that easily weigh over 30lbs, especially if you weigh less than 145lbs. I have Giant's Trance Advanced Pro 0 which weighs just over 26lbs out of the box with all Enduro parts. It is basically a shorter travel enduro bike but very capable. I can't see why bike manufacturers cannot build a longer travel enduro bike weighing 25-27lbs like you said. My bike is Giant's highest end build and I paid $6,000 CAD (taxes included) out the door the following year, so definitely worth waiting for these year end clearance sales. FYG, a similar build bike like this from the competitors usually retails for around $11,000 CAD...
  • 1 0
 @RowdyAirTime: Add weight from rockbarcycling.com and you get stronger
  • 1 0
 @Markedconn: Yeah right...lol. Maybe good for those 3 day back trekking expeditions. It kind of takes away from that nice sleek trail bike silouette many bikes now have + putting that on a light bike it would not only be front end heavy but more difficult to pop the front wheel up and doing manuals. However the biggest worry would be nose diving off every jump...Hey maybe hand these out for more "Friday Fails"....
  • 2 0
 Amazing! I salute your work (and for including pedals, bottle cage, Garmin mount and proper tires in the overall weight).
  • 2 0
 The green Spark build had a matching transport vehicle. I am disappointed there’s no shots of this on the roof of a 458.
  • 3 0
 Believe me, no one is more disappointed than myself haha.
  • 1 0
 Now you gotta race it! That's bloody incredible. The seat post and stem details are very cool.

Do you have one of those Lorenzo de' Medici patrons on your speed dial?
  • 1 0
 @Dangerholm
Curious as to why you didn't mess with the frame hardware?
TI bolts, ultra light bearings, or some other crazy solution.

Really love your builds!
  • 3 0
 The hardware already is aluminum so it's basically as light as it can get. A few grams could be saved on some of the bearings though. Thanks, appreciate it!
  • 1 0
 Used to be a weight weenie and had a light titanium hard tail, light bikes climb like a dream, would love to ride something like this, would be a single track heaven machine.
  • 3 0
 #whenthecrankscostmorethanmybike
  • 1 0
 I'd love to see how the World Cup XC bikes compare to this. No doubt there are plenty of racers using what they're told and probably paying a (small) weight penalty.
  • 1 0
 Can we get a video of him riding this thing? I'd love to see how he approaches anything technical. Though I assume he rides it way faster than any of us expect.
  • 2 0
 The only change I would do is a 125mm dropper post to make it an XC slayer.
  • 3 0
 Does this bike have an onlyfans?
  • 2 0
 Based on some of the XC Bike checks we've had on here, I'm low key surprised that he has all the rotor bolts installed.
  • 3 0
 Beautiful bike! But those rotors look SKETCHY.
  • 3 0
 When brakes are just for appearance and you don't give a f!ck that there's no braking surface to actually function properly.
  • 2 1
 Great color scheme as well, even though the Scott logo on the front now unfortunately has the aesthetic of something that would have been very popular in 1930's Germany.
  • 5 0
 Chill out man, it's just a Scott stika.
  • 1 0
 Has he built an enduro bike yet? I seen the DH buildoff w/ kapfingerer... lets see a 25 pound ransom w/ DD tires that wont kill you if you get off line.
  • 2 0
 I always knew this article was going to be primo on comments alone. Pinkbike fraternity, you didn't disappoint.
  • 1 0
 I built a 9.17 kg (20.18 lb) element 999 and when i was done i was sick of mountain bikes altogether. Ill never build another bike again
  • 3 1
 Why not Sram XX1 cassette? he could save 22g.
  • 1 0
 range
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: you can swap the big aluminium cog on 1195 and 1199 cassette for wolftooth 46t cog, you still save some weight and xd driver body is lighter then shimano 9/10/11 freehub.
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: 19g lighter in total to be exact.
  • 1 0
 Does SRAM 11sp work well with 46T cassettes? Or did he change the cage length?
  • 2 0
 @SickEdit: I didn't have any issues when I did it.
  • 1 0
 @SickEdit: It worked good for me too.
  • 2 0
 Under 8kg! Wow! But you forgot the price column...
  • 2 1
 That bike wouldn't last 30 mins on the trails around here with my big ass on it lol
  • 1 0
 More like this please. Super no-holds-barred one purpose-specific bikes are super interesting. I love the extremity of it.
  • 3 0
 #AssHatchet
  • 2 0
 I think I have a crush on Dangergrams....
  • 2 0
 I want to see huck to flat test...
  • 2 0
 nice but id like to know the price it would cost to build one!
  • 1 0
 Where does this thing about having to put a spacer between the stem and headset top cap come from?
  • 2 0
 Gives the stem some 'purchase' on the steerer. Imagine the extreme scenario where the steerer only goes halfway up the stem. There's going to be a lot of leverage on the tiny clamped area without support from above. The 1mm spacer is probably safety margin.
  • 1 0
 Does a carbon hanger perform the same as a traditional hanger or does it just position the derailleur?
  • 6 4
 No dropper, no bueno.
  • 1 0
 Deal breaker. At 18.64lbs with a dropper it would be better.
  • 2 0
 No Jorts? Denied
  • 1 0
 I could listen to him say "Schmolke" all day.
  • 1 0
 Beautiful build - absolute stunning
  • 3 3
 All this effort to get back to the weight I raced on with a full suspension 26er 10 years ago...
  • 2 0
 Less than 8!
  • 3 2
 Put and EP8 Shimano Motor and Battery on it!!!
  • 1 0
 Very nice, would like to ride.
  • 1 0
 Insanely is the key word here.
  • 1 0
 That's a seat for a sore arse!
  • 1 0
 Needs a dropper and assguys!
  • 2 0
 Helium inflated wheels
  • 1 0
 My gravel bike weighs about 6kg more than that, but it cost £500
  • 1 0
 Love these builds! Makes me want to build up a dream bike of my own...
  • 1 0
 Holy schmolkes, those are some lightweight components!
  • 1 0
 Wow! Looking forward to see it getting whipped, in Lemmy shorts.
  • 1 0
 an eggbeater 11 pedals would be lighter?
  • 2 0
 Yes, but while I run Mallet E on my downhill bikes I prefer the mechanism feeling on these for XC.
  • 1 0
 Yeah Gustav!!! Soo sick buddy!! Chicken legs!! lol
  • 4 0
 Thanks buddy! One day when I visit 'Murica you can get to climb on my shoulders and I'll do some squats!
  • 1 0
 That is a date I will surely not miss!! I hope it soon my man!! (Minus bullshit COVID mess).
  • 1 2
 I hope he's not running the full 15ml of bath oil in the fork, infarct he's already built a completely impractical bike as is. Don't even need damper fluids as all.
  • 1 0
 Would love to spend a day with this bike..
  • 1 0
 Ooohhh, explosium! My favorite bike material!
  • 1 0
 would love to see a sub 10kg trailduro build like this.
  • 1 0
 great article. love the detail.
  • 1 0
 nice color. Smaller profile knobs on tire would be lighter?
  • 1 0
 This man keeps delivering !
  • 6 6
 How can anyone afford to build these type of bikes????
  • 15 1
 Actually it’s an incredibly cheap hobby, if you compare it to doing the same things to motorbikes, cars, boats,...
  • 33 1
 People can afford to go car racing. Or to car stereo competitions where they don’t play music but blast a tone and check the decibels.
My father-in-law shot through $6,000 worth of pistol ammunition last year, and because of shortages and higher prices, is on track to shoot through even more money this year,
People buy boats and horses, both notoriously crazy expensive to maintain and both depreciate like crazy.
I sell people $65 glasses of whiskey and $100 bottles of wine multiple times a night.
Some people enjoy spending money on bikes.
  • 1 2
 @Swervsroundsquirrels: 100% this. anyone who scoffs at how much a bike cost needs to take a step back and see what their own/ other common hobbies cost. Bikes are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things.
  • 2 1
 @Swervsroundsquirrels: " you show me proof you sell wine for that much I quit my job and I work for you"
  • 3 0
 @FuzzyL: I guess I need to quit “spending money” on my retirement...
  • 2 0
 Always assumed these posts are essentially infomercials / product placement, and thus that the bikes are built up of (mostly) sponsored parts.
  • 2 0
 Why would anyone want to is my question. Bikes don't take much time to build compared to a classic car and the value is just not there. Spend 30k on something unrideable and you won't get it back.
  • 4 4
 @mixmastamikal: bikes aren't cheap. Pedal bicycles cost as much as top end ktm motorbikes now. The tech is basically the same as it was 20 years ago save slight advancements...
  • 8 0
 @unrooted: You guys are getting a retirement?
  • 1 0
 @alexsin: only if this whole charade continues for the next 50 plus years....
  • 6 0
 @T4THH:

That isn't even close to an expensive bottle of wine. I am not even rich and been to many places where 100 is at the lower end of the offerings. Glad I hate the taste of wine, saves me a lot.
  • 2 3
 Meanwhile in Africa..
  • 3 0
 @nordland071285: what’s going on in Africa? Are you upset that after centuries of English imperialism China now gets to steal all of Africa’s natural resources? Hopefully it will allow China to get to a similar standard of living as the English now enjoys.
  • 3 0
 @nordland071285: ...Africans are also consuming conspicuously. JBerg, Lagos, Nairobi, Cairo, etc. are not grass hut settlements.
  • 4 1
 @Swervsroundsquirrels: $100 isn't much for a bottle of wine from a restaurant. that's an average bottle.
  • 3 1
 How can anyone afford it? My wife just spent $900 on her lunch hour buying boots for riding her horse. She spends easily $1000/mo on boarding, supplements, vet work, etc. My bikes are much cheaper even though they are $8000, $7000 and $3500 respectively, but those are one-time costs. She affords it by working 45hrs a week, same with me and my bikes except its maybe 50hrs :-)
  • 1 0
 @makripper: I don't disagree that they aren't cheap and when weighted against other things like a moto like you suggest may not seem like very good value but at the end of the day the market is sustaining it. Look at the limited edition bikes that come out that are extremely expensive. Are they overpriced. The law of supply and demand would indicate that they are not due to the fact that they are sold out within hours of being announced. But yeah this bike in particular I kind of laugh at inside. It is unique but definitely does not appeal to me very much.
  • 5 0
 @Swervsroundsquirrels: I know a guy that bought a small studio/apartment for his hi-fi stereo setup.

Eventually his wife found out and was kind of disappointed it wasn't for the mistress...
  • 1 0
 @yupstate: Everyone says the same thing to the wife regardless of bike price.
  • 1 0
 AMAZING!
  • 1 0
 Oh SNAP
  • 1 1
 Make it single-speed and only one brake, then I'll be impressed.
  • 1 0
 Pfft. Fixie, ftw.
  • 1 0
 Cries in overweight
  • 1 0
 Seat? um, ok?
  • 1 0
 Where's the quads???!!!
  • 1 0
 I wonder if his quads have partially disappeared since he's riding such "light" bikes and spending so much time building these amazing bikes...lol. Maybe he rides an EMTB with the motor off to keep those superhuman quads in such good shape...cheers
  • 1 0
 okay.
  • 1 0
 Bravo
  • 1 0
 Less than a stone!
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