Bike Check: Hugo Marini's Commencal Supreme DH v5

May 18, 2022
by Matt Wragg  




If you take what bike privateers choose to ride as the measure of a good DH bike, then the Commencal Supreme DH is the best in the paddock right now. Among those bikes there is a heirarchy, and right at the very top of the list are the Commencal Muc-Off team bikes. With Commencal's lead engineer, Arthur Quet, closely involved in their running and setup, you could imagine there are more than a few riders in the paddock who would trade teeth or fingers to swing a leg over one of these.

Although he is coming into his first year as a junior, he already has some solid palmaires, including the 2021 European Champion title in cadets, and wins in the French Cup. We caught up with Hugo Marini before the Lourdes World Cup, which is where this bike would have seen its first laps in anger. Unfortunately, Commencal's launch schedule for this bike meant that we were unable to publish this bike check until after. While it is not usual to do a bike check with an emerging rider, my plan is to repeat a bike check with Hugo in a year or two's time to see how his setup evolves as he learns his craft. How does bike setup evolve through a career?


St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
Details
Height 5'10" / 176cm
Weight 154 lb / 65kg
Hometown Nice, France
Frame Size Medium
Wheel Size 29 front, 27.5 rear
Suspension Fox
Drivetrain & Brakes TRP
Cockpit Enve


St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
A stock medium Commencal Supreme DH V5 - Hugo says he enjoys the technical side of the sport, he is very interested in bike setup, and his father is a former framebuilder, so expect this to evolve a lot in the coming years.


St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
The present and the future of DH race bike tech? There is no denying that Commencal were at the forefront of pushing the use of idler pulleys and rearward axle paths in the DH racing. While the changeable seatstay bridge is not something we have seen before, allowing you to fine tune the stiffness of the frame to the track you are racing or the rider piloting the bike.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
Fox X2

Spring 240pi
LSC 10 clicks
HSC 4 clicks
HSR 5 clicks
LSR 12 clicks

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
Fox 40

Pressure 85psi
LSC 8 clicks
HSC 2 clicks
HSR 5 clicks
LSC 10 clicks
Tokens 1

Talking through Hugo's setup with him, he says he likes a comfortable but dynamic bike that doesn't bog down too much in the holes, but holds speed. He describes the front-rear balance on the bike as neutral, occasionally starting to put more weight on the back, depending on the track.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
He was running Schwalbe Magic Marys front and rear, both in 2.4 DH casing with 21psi / 1.5 Bar at the front, 23psi / 1.6 at the rear with no inserts. He says that at his weight he doesn't need inserts, but even Amaury does not run them on every track - just select ones, depending on the impacts. They roll on a set of Chris King hubs laced to unbranded, carbon rims which look to share a similar profile to Crank Brothers' Synthesis wheels. Finishing off the wheels are a set of burly 223mm discs.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
The team moved to TRP brakes this year and Hugo says it took them a moment to get the performance they wanted from them, that they had to learn some "tricks," but they are super impressed with them now. For Hugo, the angle of his brake levers is the most important thing on the bike - all his bikes have precisely the same angle. Burgtec provide the 40mm direct mount stem. The bar is carbon and made by Enve, Hugo prefers a 760mm width with a 30mm rise. Lizard Skin Bearclaws are his grip of choice.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.

St Laurent de Touet France 2021. Photo by Matt Wragg.
He was not giving much away, but the team are using prototype TRP drivetrains this year. HT provide the pedals and a Fizik saddle perches atop an Enve carbon seatpost.


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53 Comments
  • 86 3
 Commencal has somehow made one of the best looking DH bikes on the market. Great job guys
  • 29 4
 Probably the fastest bike out there and arguably the sexiest bike available.
  • 27 0
 Best of all, its not too crazy pricy compared to the santa cruz v10 and specialized dh bike
  • 7 3
 @Mugen: I mean something like the Antidote dark matter or an Unno or something will probably win that award but for a mainstream especially alloy bike it's great looking.
  • 5 0
 i prefer the 'old' version in the looks dept. crazy sexy, where this one is more industrial looking.
  • 3 0
 They’ve done this a few times might I add
  • 1 0
 Honestly, I don't have any lifts around but would buy it anyway. If they just would make a steeper ST I would happily use it for "enduro" (with a single crown).
  • 10 0
 Transitioned from rider to bike specs. Was really curious why the bike was coming in so heavy.

Details
Height 5'10" / 176cm
Weight 154 lb / 65kg
Hometown Nice, France
Frame Size Medium
Wheel Size 29 front, 27.5 rear
Suspension Fox
Drivetrain & Brakes TRP
Cockpit Enve
  • 3 0
 What wheels?
  • 7 0
 Well a bike that's 176cm tall is gonna be a bit heavier
  • 14 0
 curious about the TRP brake tricks?
  • 3 0
 Probably Trickstuff or similar super aggressive pads, and that's about it ? They don't last long (especially for them), but they're probably the most aggressive pads out there at the moment.
Unless they have like resleeved the master cylinder piston shaft to have a smaller piston and increase the power, but I really doubt it they went that far.
  • 3 1
 Also, another funny thing to note is saying “precisely”, due to the fact that precision is how close the measurements are to each other while accuracy denotes how close it is the the expected value.

So, you could set the brakes to the wrong angle every time, but it would be precise if you set them all to the same wrong angle.
  • 2 0
 funny enough I am on Six Sigma training this week and this is exactly what we were discussing! You are on point here, accurately!
  • 3 0
 High fork pressure, linear air spring and a lot of damping, then low pressure tires and flexible rims. Very interesting indeed.
  • 1 0
 Put the compliance where it is required
  • 10 8
 i don't get it what's the point of metioning how many clicks of what who runs. it's not like all the suspension runs exact same stack setups.
  • 14 1
 People just like to know, not sure why, but PB commentators get friggin riled up when they don’t know how many clicks are being run….
  • 20 0
 Because maybe the only thing holding me back from Amaury speed is 2 clicks of high speed compression? I must know
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: moar shimz was wrong all along. the correct term is moar clickz
  • 2 0
 That is some looooow pressure compared to what is typically thought of as a race setup. I assume he's on the DH/heaviest casing schwalbes but still!
  • 2 2
 "unbranded, carbon rims"... hum.
As far as I remember, Commençal Mucoff riders haven't been lucky with Enve catbon rims. Do they persist and insist with that option?
Enve is what it is, the rest I don't know, but I expected a wiser return to aluminium rims from them...
  • 1 2
 It just says ENVE 'cockpit'. Looks like they've quietly gone back to alloy rims. One lost title is enough.
  • 1 0
 Yeah wondering why no more Enve rims.... due to failures?
  • 3 1
 @hais: but his point is that regardless of rim brand, they are described as carbon. I would also expect them to go back to alloy, not carbon.
  • 1 0
 @ciechan: good point; I missed that detail.
  • 3 0
 At the USA downhill last year Rob Warner noted that teams had switched to carbon as alloy rims weren't surviving all the rocks, horses for courses I think.
  • 2 0
 This bike's gonna sell like crazy. Absolutely beautiful bike in every way. Doesn't hurt that it's fast either.
  • 1 1
 Love the Canyon Sender-Esque upper pivot, and the Motocross style Twin-Spar Aluminum frame. Commencal and Giant are the last bastions of hope, for fans of good Aaa-Loo-Minium bikes.
  • 4 2
 What is the convention when posting clicks? From open or from closed?
  • 9 0
 From the colour purple
  • 10 0
 Always from closed. Unless it's from open...
  • 2 0
 Usually from closed
  • 3 0
 @MTBrent: either way, it’s from purple…
  • 1 0
 From closed
  • 1 0
 It should always be from closed. Closed is a constant variable
  • 1 0
 @2wls4ever: so is it constant or variable? can't be both Big Grin but you are right, it makes sense to always denote from closed.
  • 3 0
 A true race bike.
  • 2 0
 This kid is the futur....
  • 3 0
 65 Kg is 143 lbs
  • 1 0
 Would like to know the "Tricks" with the TRP Brake.
  • 4 3
 Those big front wheels still look wrong to me but this a real beauty!
  • 7 2
 I think its the little rear wheel that looks weird.
  • 1 0
 looks fast standing still
  • 2 1
 He's fast, he comes from a BMX background.......
  • 1 0
 Modern bike for modern tracks
  • 2 2
 Ah yes, nothing like pretending we can feel the difference in stiffness by changing the rear suspension bridge.
  • 1 0
 Not sure about the open bottom bracket shell?
  • 1 0
 Snappy looking thing
  • 1 0
 beautyyyyyyyy
  • 1 0
 looks awesome
  • 1 3
 36er at the front, 10er at the back.
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