Bike Check: Joe Barnes' Unique Orange Alpine 6

May 22, 2019
by Ross Bell  

Joe Barnes is quite possibly one of the biggest characters on the enduro circuit. When he's not between the race tapes he can probably be found somewhere deep in the boggy woods of Fort William slithering down handlebar deep ruts with surgical precision. Many will have followed Joe's antics in the old “Dudes of Hazzard” videos aboard the brightly emblazoned Orange bikes, now after a 6-year hiatus, he has returned home to where it all began with a bike to match his unique personality and approach to riding and racing.

2019 marked a fresh start for Joe, leaving the Canyon Factory Enduro Team and starting up his own program with Hazzard Racing where he was joined by Lachlan Blair and Fergus Lamb with a raft of races and video projects in the pipeline. At the heart of his new race rig is a large Orange Alpine 6 with a 180mm Formula Selva R fork which is paired to an Extreme EXT coil shock, the build is completed by a smattering of Hope, OneUp, Schwalbe, Fabric, and Odi components.

We went to visit Joe in Fort William to get a closer look at his new Orange Alpine 6 and discover how he's set it up after a winter of trying various prototypes:


Height 5’7” (173 cm)
Weight 69 kg
Hometown Fort William, Scotland
Frame Size Large
Wheel Size 27.5"
Suspension 180mm Formula Selva R fork & Extreme EXT Storia LOK Coil Shock
Drivetrain & Brakes Hope / Shimano XT/XTR and Hope Tech 3 V4
Cockpit OneUp Components
Wheels &amp Rubber Hope Tech Enduro / Schwalbe Magic Mary & Hans Dampf

Did jumping back on an Orange after 6 years feel similar in any way?

Yeah, definitely. It rides how an Orange rides. I don't really like bikes that are really planted with almost a wallow in the link, which some people like. Whereas an Orange, I suppose for me, it's the predictability of it I like, it doesn't have that wallow or that spot, or the ramp up after that spot which catches me out. Just going back to that, I was instantly riding through my feet which I like, feeling the ground and using my heels. I kinda stopped doing that before because the bike had that wallow and I didn't need to, or it didn't benefit me to. Now I can feel what I'm doing again, I feel instantly confident so that was going back 6 years but instantly just knowing and feeling, oh yes that's how it goes.

Setting up your own program you've been able to pick your components to a certain extent?

Yeah, luckily enough what I was offering there were quite a lot of people that were keen to get involved in it. From there, I was able to choose components that all complemented each other in what we were trying to do. Hope was a big one, Hope was also who I'd rode for in the past, another British company, the brakes are amazing. Since I last rode for them they've started doing drivetrain parts so we just committed to the full Hope package which was an excellent start.

Joe's Alpine 6 in Hazzard Racing yellow. He has settled on a large frame after a winter trying various prototypes and sizes.

bigquotesWe were sneaking about in the winter with the original Alpine, a sort of middle ground Alpine, and then the final version. The blue one that I was riding in the middle of winter had a slightly lower bottom bracket and a slightly higher pivot, we just pulled those two together and got the geometry spot on. Then they pulled the trigger on it basically just before the launch because they are one of the only brands with the facilities to do that.

Have you been playing around with frame sizes?

It's a large which is quite big for me, but I thought it was a really balanced bike. I've tried a medium, medium with different sized wheels, and the large. I just thought at the moment the large felt the most comfortable for me just getting straight onto it. I'm really happy with the 27.5, Canyon never had a 29er till I left so I just thought I've got no wants, or I'm not saying I need something to make me go quicker there. I know what I need to do with myself or my setup, and the wheelsize is not relevant to me at the moment. 27.5 was perfect so I jumped on that.

Upfront is a 180mm Formula Selva R fork paired to an Extreme EXT STORIA LOK Coil Shock on the rear.

Joe has stuck with Formula's recommended setting for his weight of 70 PSI in the positive chamber and 90 PSI in the negative chamber. He runs two of Formula's Neopos volume spacers along with a light compression stack and fast rebound, he says he runs both of them nearly open.

bigquotesI rode on Canyon for 6 years and rode loads of different bikes for them, Spectral a lot, Strive a lot, and the Torque more recently. This bike is quite different to the Torque. I was on Orange way, way, way before that, although they've changed a lot. You wouldn't have run a coil on an Orange in the past because it wasn't progressive enough, but the way they've worked out the shock angle on the back there's plenty of scope, it's a progressive leverage curve so it feels amazing with that coil.

Having ridden Orange bikes for a lengthy stint before Canyon, Joe says he would never have even considered running a coil shock back then due to the bikes' linear linkage. His shock setup shares similar traits to his fork with an extra light tune with the compression and rebound almost fully open. He is currently running a 300lbs spring.

Can you run us through the suspension setup now you're running Formula and the Extreme shock?

Formula was the perfect fit for us. There's a lot of tunability and I can do it all at home which is quite good as I've got less mechanical support this year with it being our first year as we find our feet. Yeah, so you can change the compression stack in the fork with a 1.5mm Allen key and a little grub screw so that's quite cool. The EXT Storia shock, that's kind of worked out quite flukily in the way that it happened. Chris Porter imports both of them through his company, I've worked with Chris a lot in the past and I'm a big fan of what he does and his passion basically. So I've been to-and-fro with Chris 3 times a week basically, talking about changing the setup and trying different things here and there, and getting all my timing on it and making it quicker and quicker.

Could you give us a few more specifics and numbers on clicks with pressures, rebound, etc...?

On the rear shock I've got a custom stack in it at the moment but it's got an extra light compression and rebound, I've always run a really open shock for both compression and rebound. I just prefer the shock to be active under me so that's something I've been working with Chris on and we've just been building it up from there, I'm really comfortable on the bike and building speed. So basically an extra light tune on the rear shock and a 300 lbs spring. On the fork I just run exactly what they recommend, I went to that from the start and went higher and lower and just stuck with 70 in the positive and 90 in the negative and the light compression stack in it as well. I'm running two of the Formula Neopos but it's a 180mm fork, so I run more Neopos and run a faster rebound and lighter compression because of that, I run them almost fully open.

And is the Alpine stocked with a 180mm fork or is that something you just have a preference for?

It's stocked with a 170mm but I've just put a 180mm on it. It sits about right there and I think it's pretty good for me, I like monster-trucking.

Joe runs his OneUp bars cut at 750mm and has done so for 8 years, seeing no reason for him to go any wider.

Something else that Joe is particular about is a 50mm stem. He likes to run plenty of back sweep on his bars and prefers the less lively steering of the slightly longer stem, compared to say a 35mm or 40mm which he feels is too "direct" and "twitchy".

What does your cockpit setup look like?

I'm running the OneUp bars with a 20mm rise and a 50mm stem. I've always loved a 50mm stem as I run quite a bit of back sweep on the bars and I don't want my hands behind the steerer tube. People who run 40mm or 35mm and give it all the chat and then they've got loads of forward sweep on the bars... It's just the same. That's what I've always run there.

The 50mm stem is way less twitchy but I think that's down to the sweep as well, if I was to run my sweep and a shorter stem then it'd be way too direct and I really hate that feeling of really direct steering. Bar width is just 750mm, I've been 750mm for like 8 years, I'd just always been 750mm, it fits me quite well. Stack height, I got the theory that the longer your bike the higher your bars, just for the reach I suppose... The bars have gone up a bit over the years as my bikes have got longer, but not wildly high. I find it really specific so I play around with it at the start of the year and once I'm really happy I just leave it. I think the races are so varied that there's a bit of everything in them all, so just be comfortable on it.

I run my brakes really close in, I got the front one nearly touching the grip... With the Hope brakes, it's 4mm off the grips and I want it nearly touching so I filed down a little part in the lever assembly to get that even closer... Then the back brake I like further out. I definitely think that if you're in a rut and you've got grabby brakes then that makes your life pretty hard, so non-grabby brakes in ruts is much easier to ride and it's very rutted terrain around here, having a very severe bite point is quite hard to control so I run brakes really close in with a bit more travel, using the middle bit of my finger for sensitivity. I'm running a 200mm rotor on the front and a 180mm rotor but I'll up the 180mm for the Alps as soon as summer comes in, but just saving a bit of weight for the winter.

So you are just setting the bike up to be fast, this is your race setup?

Yeah, exactly. I'll just get this bike set up as my race bike and get comfortable on it. I really want to set up an Orange 5 for a sort of second bike where it's not built for all-out speed particularly, but just as an amazing trail bike. This bike I've just set up for my race bike.

Hope Tech 3 V4s take care of stopping duties, they are paired with a 200mm rotor on the front and 180mm on the rear for now, as soon as Joe heads to the longer Alpine stages this summer he'll up both to 200mm. Hope, like Orange, are another brand Joe has returned to after his 6-year stint on Canyon.

Perhaps the most individualistic trait of Joe's bike is the brake bite point... He likes the lever to almost touch the bar, even filling a part inside the lever assembly to get a few extra millimetres of pull.

A 150mm OneUp dropper is complimented by a Fabric saddle and Odi grips.

What about tire setup?

I've got the ultrasoft Magic Mary on the front which I think is pretty much the go-to tire year round I think, then on the back, I switch up between a Hans Dampf or a cut Dirty Dan, they both offer really good rolling, but the Dirty Dan clears slightly better. They're both soft in compound, but when you cut the Dirty Dan you sort of lose that dual compound so you're riding more on the hard bit of it.

The Hope Enduro rims are reasonably narrow I guess compared to what you were running last year?

Yeah, I was running Mavic last year with a wider front rim, I don't really mind. I think they fit these tire profiles as they are quite small tires, maybe if you had a bigger tire it'd be nicer but this is a good set up. Hope do have new wheels so I'll be upgrading to those at some point.

An ultrasoft Magic Mary up front is Joe's all year all weather choice whilst he'll change his rear between a Hans Dampf or cut Dirty Dan.

The Hope Tech Enduro rims are narrower than Joe had been running in the past but he doesn't mind. He believes the Schwalbe tire profile works better with these slightly narrower rims.

A mix of Shimano and Hope components take care of the drivetrain duties. Joe is more than happy to be back on 11 speed after snapping two 12 speed chains in EWS races last season.

bigquotesThe hope cassette is 11 speed which I'm very happy with as I snapped 2 chains last year on my World Series campaign which I was very raging about, so I'm not sure if narrow chains is particularly the way to go in life, I just run an XTR shifter and an XT mech for dragging through the ruts.

You've been on carbon bikes for years, how did you find switching back to an alloy frame?

Nah I think the whole bike is quite a bit different so to point it down to alloy or carbon is quite difficult, but I've done various things in the past where I've had an alloy version of the prototype and I've gone to the carbon version and I just don't see it. I guess you've got to get the flex right on the carbon frame to make it work, I don't know if it's really too much of a benefit to anyone.

Do you know the weight?

Yeah, it's around 15 kilos, I'm not too fussy about weight, but I'll do everything I can. I haven't ti bolted it yet but I'll do that. From doing timing and being on the really, really light Spectral I had and then the Torque, it was like now I'm faster on my Torque, now I'm faster on this... I think if it rides well that's the most important thing, this bike is actually way lighter than my Torque which for an alloy bike is good, it's built out of aluminium for a good reason, not just cause it's cheaper or whatever.

MENTIONS: @rossbellphoto / @Hazzard-Racing / @orangebikes


  • 140 25
 Someone needs to tell Joe that it will be impossible to climb on that bike with it's super slack seat angle, that it's made out of metal by blind welders in the dark, will sound like a skeleton in a biscuit tin, the single pivot suspension is at least 20 years out of date and will snap his ankles and it looks like a yellow filing cabinet....
  • 17 87
flag fwokinfwok (May 22, 2019 at 2:52) (Below Threshold)
  • 10 45
flag hans-dampf-26er (May 22, 2019 at 3:00) (Below Threshold)
 you are from the uk, you're meant to love orange!?
  • 59 4
 @hans-dampf-26er: I was being ironic, or maybe sarcastic (I always get those two mixed up) and thought I'd get the usual stupid comments in before anyone else.
  • 42 3
 @hans-dampf-26er: Theresa May is from the UK. Nobody loves her...
  • 2 0
 Not sure why that posted 3 times but whatever
  • 10 42
flag fabianmct (May 22, 2019 at 3:41) (Below Threshold)
 You're funny, you mark a comment of the type on each article about an Orange. We understood that you didn't like it. Get back on your 56 bearing bike made in Taiwan and let people choose an original handcrafted bike, maybe not to everyone's taste but at least theirs...
  • 33 1
 @fabianmct: My bike has two bearings and was made in Halifax.
  • 19 0
 Humour on the interballs ... sadly not many get it but I understood you @HarrySimpson you're not alone !
  • 7 3
 @HarrySimpson: Sorry to say this, but your bike has at least 10 bearings Wink
  • 9 2
 @lkubica: Thank you for letting me know I hadn't realised.
  • 20 0
 @HarrySimpson: I always thought that brits have natural ability to understand sarcasm, but this thread proves otherwise.
  • 11 3
 Hahaha yeah, everyone who doesn't have an Orange always has an outdated opinion on them don't they.
  • 9 27
flag youknowitsus (May 22, 2019 at 9:44) (Below Threshold)
 One of the abso-fucking-lutely ugliest bikes in existence. I'll pass.
  • 5 1
 Absolute sar-crash.
  • 2 0
Maybe if the welds didn't look like they were done by a 15 year old
  • 1 0
 @HarrySimpson: Exactly!! Everyone is running around trying to enforce standards and argue about “outdated” geometry... They need to stop blowing hot air and go ride their Orange Bike!! It’s an OG freeride/berm-railing crushing machine! ????
  • 45 2
 love it! Also, that was a proper bike check, loved the detail the article went in to!
  • 11 0
 Not fussy about weight,but switches between 1 180mm and 200mm rotor for weight savings...
  • 4 0
 @scary1: its 15kg, he's not fussy about ballpark or target weight, just unnecessary weight
  • 27 3
 With Orange bikes it's like with this girl from your school. Who wasn't pretty. Maybe a bit ugly even. But sexy a fuck. The only problem was - who'll take her.
  • 11 0
  • 6 0
 Yeah I'm down
  • 8 0
 C'mon boys. Have balls. What do you care what everybody else think. Just admit that you wanna do it.
  • 4 0
 that will go away, as you become adult, work, and drink beer!
  • 15 0
 @goroncy Everybody will take her! For a spin or two. Around parking lot. But it takes a very special kind of client to take her home.
  • 7 5
 @goroncy: Sounds like your mum.
  • 6 1
 But still way out of your league and probably too much for you anyway. So best leave it to peeps like Joe who know what they're doing.
  • 3 0
 @HarrySimpson: and you got the 'Mum' comment in first too!
  • 3 0
 But once you actually climb on and go for a ride you realize that the prettiest unit isn’t always the most fun...sometimes the quality of the ride is worth more than the looks of the ride...
  • 14 0
 I love Orange bikes, but 5'7" and size large with a 300lb spring at 69kg, narrow rims and only 750mm bars, talk about sticking a middle finger to trends!
Totally agree on the carbon frame point too, having ridden heaps of carbon bikes and sometimes the alloy versions back to back, I see no perceivable difference, and for an average $1500+ price increase with most brands over the alloy version for maybe 200-300g weight savings, it simply makes no sense, very much snake oil
  • 6 0
 I couldn't agree more with Joe about the wallowing feeling you get on so many bikes. I'm on an old Mega which is single pivot like the Orange, and I rode some very nice and much newer bikes the other week (Mondraker Foxy, Spesh Stumpjumper) and whilst they were really nice, they had a muted, very planted feeling through the legs that I couldn't get over. It's like the wheels hug the ground as much as possible under compression, when really what I'm looking for is that pop out of the travel.
  • 1 0
 you've never ridden a mk1 Jeffsy I take it?
  • 2 0
 @wowbagger: No, never ridden any YT, not that I'd pass up the opportunity. Looking at the shock setup I'm guessing it provides some of that 'poppy' character as well?
  • 1 0
 @wowbagger: I have one(Jeffsy29), and that mute feeling is real, although the bike is still fun to ride.
I do believe 29er are more mute than smaller wheels.
Nevertheless, and although I acknowledge the mute feeling, I'm deeply in love with my Jeffsy Smile
  • 2 0
 @gkeele: incidentally, the OEM shock (at least the Monarch) was rubbish, the rear end was all over the place and felt really harsh.

@TDMAN I am about to put your theory to a test - I just switched to a Spectral Big Grin (although I did love my Jeffsy, just wanted something new and the mk2 Jeff doesn't come in AL and the lesser carbon spec does nothing for me)
  • 1 0
 @wowbagger: I still have 26 bikes, and going back and forward between 26/29 /26/29, you can feel the mute, and the feeling of 29ers being slower (but in reality it's not!).
Not saying it's less or more fun on a 26, because it depends if you like stability, but the mute feeling and the slow feeling are normally associated with 29 (that do have other advantages if you compare with smaller wheels).
Next week I'll try a 27.5 rear on the jeffsy, and having tried and enjoyed a 29er front on my old (26) Rize, I'm curious to check the final result on the Jeffsy
Hope you enjoy the Canyon! Cheers
  • 2 0
 @TDMAN: i too still ride 26 on the DH rig.
A firend of mine went with a 27.5 rear on his Jeffsy and he's really happy with it!
Been having some issues with the (brand new) Guide brakes on the Spectral so riding has been compromised but i can tell this bike and i will make good friends Big Grin just picked up 4pot XTs and confident it will be awesome
  • 8 1
 If you can't ride properly on a good single pivot bike, then sorry to say, it is not the bikes fault ...... it is your poor bike skills letting you down. Great looking bike!
  • 7 3
 nice bike, perfect for vintage bikes group on Facebook... hahahaha Joe could ride a kids bike faster than most on here the best bike out. Chilled out fella from way south of here, good luck on the new steed. 28th in the first EWS this year, 24th and 38th in the last 2 last season, so the Orange doesnt seem to be slowing him down compared to the competition.
  • 1 0
 Vintage bike group? Remind me the age of your v10? Wink
  • 1 0
 @dhowie: haha, it was denied as Vintage as it was a linkage design.
Its 26 so has to be vintage gold. Smile
  • 6 2
 Have owned Orange Bikes since 2011, my first was a Five, replaced by another Five in 2017, added an Alpine 6 later that year, so I subsequently sold the Five. Still own and love the Alpine 6, absolutely awesome bike. I've a 2017 324 as well now.
Always get the predictable guff about how Orange bikes look, that the single pivot is 20 years out of date and they're made from filing cabinets......blah, blah, blah.
But when your multi pivot, built for dusty trails in California, full suss, pretty bike is going through it's umpteenth bearing change, the reliable, fun packed Orange will still be going strong :-)
  • 3 0
 The bike is a beauty. I usually prefer straight tubes but Orange got it just right with the curves here. Joe is also such a cool character. I'd take his sister Hanna as a role model for her lifestyle (bit of racing, a lot of living the life) but Joe definitely seems like a good guy to hang and ride with.
  • 1 1
 Hanna is not Joe's sister. Hanna lives in England and has a sister that races named Alice.
  • 3 0
 @rideonjon: Sorry, my typo. I meant to say Hannah Barnes.

She does happen to have a younger brother named Joe and they both raced at MTB Cut media on pink Orange bikes (because MTB Cut was pink).
  • 2 0
 @rideonjon: You are refering to 'the other' Hannah Barnes.
Joe also has a sister named Hannah Barnes, who rides MTB for Specialized.
The English Hannah Barnes you are refering to is a road cyclist.
  • 3 1
 @TheElectricGhost: Ah, now I get the confusion Wink . Barnes is a big name in cycling Wink .
  • 2 0
 @TheElectricGhost: Oh wow didn't realize there were 2 British Hannah Barnes,my bad.
  • 5 0
 Cool read, Joe seems very particular about set up but not fussy, if that makes sense.
  • 5 0
 Very nice machine. Like the pop and feel of a single pivot. Great season Joe!! Braaaap!!
  • 5 0
 So many haters who have probably never even rode an orange ????
  • 4 0
 I would say definitely haven't rode one. They are amazingly engaging and fun to ride.
  • 1 0
 Just browsed through the comment section here, I don't see many haters. I have to admit I've seen them under other articles but I think it is hard for people to keep that up if a pro like Joe is so clear here about what he likes about this bike and why he prefers it over carbon multi-pivot bikes he's ridden in the past. To fight that, you need to at least be able to showcase the same level of knowledge and experience. Haters don't have that.
  • 1 0
 they are under the article with that ancilloti. They'll come after fighting each other.
  • 3 1
 I mean yeah you can argue about the bike but man the photographer did an amazing job. That log pile makes for a great backdrop and all the colors really pop without looking oversaturated.
  • 5 0
 It's a good looking pile!
  • 1 0
 I would love to buy an Orange next, just unlikely for now due to the amount of frames that suffer cracks at the welds. 3 mates, one with a 5 and the other 2 on Alpines, all have suffered cracks. Orange repaired them but charged for the paint job. All the issues with my Slash 98 have been sorted FOC, I've seen the receipts for replacement shocks, wheels etc from the shop and Trek don't bat an eyelid, they just pay up.
  • 5 0
 Love that chainring
  • 4 0
 5'7" on a size L, that's gotta take some skilks to pilot.
  • 1 0
 Skills...f.u. to mia autocorrect.
  • 2 1
 @Ian713: im also 5'7" and ride L (2012 five and 2018 p7 29er), i like the feel of a larger bike even if it is a tad harder to ride.
also i like having the dropper fully in the seat-tube as it gives a lot of *room for activities*.
  • 1 0
 I had a Bullit many years ago and it was never a bad ride. Anyone who ever took the time to understand them, realizes single pivots are great fun bikes. I'd take an Orange any day.
  • 2 0
 light compression stack on the formula means the "regular soft" cartridge or the "special soft"?
  • 2 0
 Hi, Joe is using Gold CTS with compression knob almost in a fully open position. If you want to learn more about all CTS range, check this out
  • 4 1
 Even looking at that brake lever bite point makes me feel queasy.
  • 2 0
 someone who just wants to ride on a bike that feels good, not always about whats fastest.
  • 2 0
 Love it fantastic bike, interesting rider and a very useful insight into what is possible when people are braver.
  • 4 1
 Enough with the UKIP paintjobs ffs.
  • 3 4
 "Just going back to that, I was instantly riding through my feet which I like, feeling the ground and using my heels." haha so basically he just says that his rear suspension doesn't work. Whatever floats your boat I think.
Those silver hope parts though.... My gosh they are things of beauty!
  • 3 0
 that is the most scottish looking person i have ever laid eyes on
  • 3 0
 That brake bite point makes cringe!
  • 1 0
 Having owned a five I won't be going near another until they have a suspension design that doesn't lock solid the instant you use the back brake
  • 1 2
 If your using PB as a press releases then why not release something that doesn’t look like a monkey’s had one too many micro-dots?

Unfortunately, I’ve ridden nearly every generation of Orange bikes and they just don’t cut it... heavy, look shite, handle like a rabid pig, sound like a macerater chewing a chisel... and cost a frickin’ shit tonne!!

Peaty did them alright back in the day but the fact they’re not on the WC DH circuit these days says it all... belong in the MTV hall of fame and not on the trails ????
  • 5 1
 @lancomac: If they don't cut it why do you keep riding them? Think you've had too many micro-dots with those daft statements..
  • 1 2
I don’t ride them anymore as they ride like tanks, and prefer enjoying my time on a bike rather than being fed up with it.
And those daft statements are a matter of fact.. do you honestly think those bikes look on point? Come on... take it back 20 years and you’ve got the same rig!
  • 4 1
You don't ride them anymore but you've ridden every generation?
Why did it take you so long to realise you were fed up?
Looks are always going to be subjective but statements like "ride like tanks", "heavy" and "sound like macerators" are clearly not "matter of fact" or "on point" and sound daft to me.
  • 1 0
 My large Stage 4 weighs 10.6 Kg with Sram AXS. Heavy, I think not.
  • 3 0
 bomb proof...
  • 5 1
 Yeah but not nuke proof. Seriously tho realy different looking bike, and forget about colour matching this looks sick.
  • 2 0
 What size is the chainring? Looks huge? 36t?
  • 3 2
 Loving the bike & colour scheme but cranks should have been black not silver... Smile
  • 2 0
 I like it, it's... functional.
  • 3 0
 I like it.
  • 1 0
 What are those cable ties that look like they bolt together? The pic from the left side of the stem shows it the best.
  • 1 0
 It’s similar to Jagwire s-hooks, but there are other brands out there too.
  • 1 0
 @HarrySimpson: hm.. you appear to be correct. From the pic it looked like there was a small pinch bolt to apply a little pressure. The simple clip on type seem to just slide around and not secure the cables good enough.
  • 1 0
 @lognar: I've got them on my bike, they're quite tight and don't slide around.
  • 2 1
 Single Pivot for the win! Shame it's not a steel bike though...
  • 4 1
 from what i have felt, steel does not make too much difference on a full sus. but it still rocks for hardtails!
  • 1 0
 Brings back fond memories of my old lime green SC heckler.
  • 1 0
 who decided to put the "6" over joe's face? what a tard...
  • 4 2
 5ft 7” on a large?
  • 2 0
 I don't get it.
  • 1 0
 Anyone have experience on the Formula Selva ?
  • 1 0
 Single pivot bikes are brilliant.
  • 1 0
 How many people have Joe on their enduro fantasy team?
  • 2 2
 This article needs one of those suspension squish videos. No.... wait....
  • 6 6
 I came for my welding lesson....oh wait, wrong room

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