Gallery: Richie Rude's Yeti SB150 - EWS Ainsa 2018

Sep 23, 2018
by Daniel Sapp  



A few weeks ago, we did a bike check on Richie Rude's still camouflaged SB150. Now in all its turquoise glory and basking in the win at this weekend's EWS in Ainsa, Spain, here some more photos of this speedy machine.


Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Safety first. A flat on an EWS stage can make or break a race... or a season.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
The old ruins of Ainsa and Rude's new SB150 - A stark contrast.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Stages keeping track of the stages while OneUp Component's EDC tool stashes neatly in the steerer tube.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Maxxis' Assegai tires (with CushCore inserts) showing the wear from Ainsa's unforgiving tracks.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Rude runs a full Shimano drivetrain. Word is he's loving the new XTR but still working out some crank-length issues before he makes the switch.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Color matched decals on the Fox Float X2 shock.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Yeti's Switch Infinity system seems to have performed well for Rude this weekend.

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike
Although he wasn't physically present in Ainsa this weekend, Jared Graves was in everyone's thoughts. #STRENGTHforJARED



229 Comments

  • + 218
 Pretty lame bike check.. I want specifics! What suspension settings, tire psi, which maxxis tires? (Assegai in front and rear? Volume reducers?) Stem length? Stack height? (Higher or lower than stock? )
  • + 82
 Exactly. This bike check is simply a description of what you can see visually in the photo. Poor effort.
  • + 14
 I zoomed in on the rear tire and yes it is an Assegai
  • - 3
 Agree. Piss poor.
  • + 4
 unless the tyres are on backwards, un-named proto? Maxxis usually have the name and all the details (size, width, casing) on the drive side right?
  • - 6
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 4:51) (Below Threshold)
 True this...
  • + 2
 As if you couldn't tell that Richie is an Assegai.
  • + 3
 this is how they've all been for a while. I've learned to not bother.
  • + 46
 Please rename this article: 15 Pictures of Richie Rude's Bike
  • - 2
 Maybe Rude/Yeti doesn't want to share those details?
  • - 3
 @motard5: He did when he showed the bike the first time... at Mike Levey
  • + 22
 @michaeldorian: It's even a poor description of what you can see in photos! That's not a stages computer, it's a Garmin Edge 520 with a Stages sticker on it.
  • + 6
 This bikecheck made my balls so blue they’re turquiose
  • + 128
 You guys are pretty worked about about this so I'll address... This was shot to show a newly released bike winning an EWS for the first time, and the basic component spec. And If we didn't provide this there would be comments demanding that we should have. And when we do we are told it's lazy and not enough.

Keep in mind this was shot 15 mins after Richie won the race, and right before the mechanic had to make it look spotless for the podium. Just stealing the bike away from the pits to shoot against the castle wall backdrop took 15 mins of time away from the the mechanic who was waiting to wash and polish.

In the middle of all the photo ops and interviews for press regarding the race, it is not the time to pry all the setup secrets out of Richie. Nor is it the time to ask the same of the mechanic or support staff who are also extremely busy after a race (and especially after a race win)... And of course the crew of us who shoot these photos and compile these features have a whole other set of client and editorial responsibilities post-EWS finish and podium.

A "poor effort" ... I think not.

Please just try to appreciate the fact that we share what we can, when we can and it's not always possible to provide something perfect for everyone.
  • + 48
 @davetrumpore: Then call this something else... It is no bike check... it is a winning bike shot..
  • + 74
 @davetrumpore: Pay no attention Dave, it's not like they cant look back at the 30 other bike checks Richie has had over the last couple of seasons.

Suspension: Stiff AF.
Brakes: Stoppy AF.
Wheels/Tires: Explosiveproof AF
Richie: Fast AF
  • - 20
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 8:20) (Below Threshold)
 @Thustlewhumber: wow... nice... really detailed bike check skills you have ... Maybe Pinkbike wants to hire you Wink
  • + 0
 @davetrumpore: so why not wait a couple days with actual info before posting? Quality over quantity.
  • + 46
 @makripper: you mean right after a day or two of travel and in the middle of the next EWS round? Sounds perfect ;-)

And because someone else would complain there wasn't a bike check imediatly after the race as we've seen in the comments section at previous rounds.

Kind of sounds like you guys just want to be mad for the sake of being mad here?

Enjoy the free content... Everything you consume on this website is created from the time work and effort of other people.
  • + 2
 @AyJayDoubleyou: Puzzling? Why would Maxxis leave the detail logos off his tires?? No way he runs them backwards... Right?
  • - 5
flag kidtrailboss (Sep 24, 2018 at 8:56) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: The pictures are great. Here is the info I would have like to see next time if you get a chance. Which rims did he run and what was the internal width. Which tires- model, casing, size. Did he run Cushcores? if so, front and back or just back. What pressures? Did he vary the pressure or run it the same all day. Was there anything about his set up that wasn't working as well as he'd hoped? More nerdy stuff for nerds like me.
  • + 49
 @kidtrailboss @davetrumpore also water bottle details. type of bottle. max volume. volume used. weight without water. weight with water. type of water used. pH level.
  • + 29
 @underhawk: even if all that was provided someone else would complain that the number of ice cubes added on a hot day was not specified.
  • + 2
 @davetrumpore: yeah and PB is doing all for free right?
Nottttt... they are paid by the advertising brands... and people see that, so there goes objectivity....
For the rest, better do something with feedback then throwing some heat back...
  • - 14
flag ceecee (Sep 24, 2018 at 9:27) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: If the content is free, why are you getting paid to provide it? Consuming it also requires time and effort.
  • + 11
 @Trailstunter: didn't you know everyone that works at pB is on community service, so they don't get paid.
  • + 8
 @davetrumpore: one day, I think the comments function will be disabled by you guys, and I don’t think I would blame you if it does go that way.

It’s the same everywhere, every social media site, forums, etc.

I’ll still be visiting PB either way!
  • + 2
 @ceecee: Are you dumb?
  • + 19
 @davetrumpore: maybe take the top voted comments as constructive feedback when you are part of a ad dependent site

We don’t have any spec details like you might expect in a bike check.

It’s not a personal attack so don’t take it that way.
  • + 3
 @davetrumpore: 1 - it's not free, you know what you get from the PB community and from the industry. 2 - bike check are media / sales / hype tool. 3 - PB is paid advertising who happens to mix in free self generated content.
  • + 0
 @litany: HA! I saw that as well.Just trying to pump out content i guess...
  • + 0
 did they change the title? I just see this as a Bike Gallery
  • + 12
 @ceecee: what a shitty, shitty mentality.
  • - 1
 @davetrumpore: paid people right? I'd rather wait a few days even to get more info. Maybe not the same for everyone.
  • + 3
 @ceecee: content being free for you has no bearing on content producers deserving to be paid for services rendered. Believe me, no one is forcing you to click on anything here...but you make it sound like a herculean task to check out free mtb content. Poor fella!
  • + 0
 @davetrumpore: maybe create two comment sections. One for comments and one for whiners!
  • + 6
 @FunctionalMayhem: Or they could create two different categories. One for a gallery and one for actual bike checks.
  • + 3
 @poozank: I only shot the photos... Had nothing to do with the feature, it's title or words contained within. Just standing up for a fellow coworker who's work you guys are dumping on.
  • + 2
 @Loamhuck: if we don't shoot a winning bike we get called lazy, and if we do shoot it we are just pushing ads for Money? Which one is it I'm confused ???? Either way you have something to complain about though right ??
  • - 1
 @davetrumpore: Agreed! People just like to bitch man!
  • + 1
 @underhawk: hahaha!
  • + 5
 @davetrumpore: This check was bang on. Quick easy once over, anyone who follows enduro and the bikes involved can spot a particular component from 20ft away anyways. Specifics on setup is nice here and there but i have sonething to read and doesnt cost me a thing. Good mtb content. Period.
  • - 1
 Why? Those things are unique for every rider.. unless you are the exact same proportions and weight, and also ride like a beast.
  • - 2
 Careful guys don't stir the bully
  • - 2
 why is that relevant to you? it wold be completely specific to his height weight and preference. What a waste of effort to itemize all that stuff. and visually you can see what he is running on his bike
  • + 6
 @davetrumpore:

I applaud you for you effort an kicking back against dumb pricks who rip on your work! thanks for all you do.

cheers,
  • + 0
 @Trailstunter: what is the definition of "Bike check" and who defined it?
  • - 2
 @mtbyoda: do you think tiger woods uses off the shelf putters? they are probably not publicly available tires
  • + 0
 @underhawk: slow clap!!!
  • + 0
 Gallery: Richie Rude's Yeti SB150 - EWS Ainsa 2018

was the title, I see no bike check in the title.... nuff said!
  • - 1
 @davetrumpore: Amen, its great what you guys do, but I would love to learn the specs of this bike in the future.
  • - 2
 It says "gallery" not bike check you idiot. be a little bit great full that you get all of this for free.
  • + 6
 @henryyyyyyyp: Had you been here earlier you would have noticed it was titled Bike Check.
  • - 1
 @henryyyyyyyp: they changed the title smarty...
  • + 0
 @davetrumpore: @davetrumpore: yo, dave, choose your battles man.. this is a lost cause, I get that you want to stand up for your the work you guys do, but, let it go, most of these guys are trolling you anyway.. keep up the good work, there's a lot more people that value what you gys do than those who complain about every little thing
  • - 3
 @VZLNMTB: So when people are not always on the PB fan wagon, and say what they think of it... it is a lost case...
Well...that is one way to look at it... or you can take it as feedback and do something with it...
Throwing back rocks like Dave did... is not helping it...
  • - 1
 Maybe it doesn't matter what he's running. If you cared what he was running, you would know from previous bike checks that have gone through the pointless details. Creepers!!
  • - 2
 @davetrumpore: I got your back dude!

You do amazing work!

I can attest to what you go through for "the shots"

YOU ARE AWESOME Dave!
  • - 3
 @davetrumpore: Dave Trumpore for President! Good on ya for putting the whiney trolls in their place.
  • + 2
 @davetrumpore: grumpy much? you got called out. accept it.
  • - 3
 @davetrumpore: Most of the criticism against you is well founded and your retaliatory chirping is kind of sad. I would also like to respectfully voice my concern over the lack of technical reporting and vanilla reviews on components and bikes. (Although not all , just to be clear) A more critical analysis brings higher quality products to market and will drive innovation in the industry. Peace brah, don’t get your nickers in a knot. Life too short.
  • + 5
 @underhawk @davetrumpore. I said it was nerdy, and it’s cool if you aren’t into it, but it’s the kind of thing that makes Ben Cathro’s stuff so worthy. Somebody that really knows what they are talking about, pointing out the not so obvious and fascinating (to me) details of what makes the best, the best.
  • + 3
 @skilots: I didn't write the article you are complaining about, so not sure how I got "called out" for something I didn't write ;-)

But that's what a lot of you guys do here isn't it? Just try to find a fault in a product, a feature, someone's work, and "call it out" as a way to make yourselves look "cool"
  • + 4
 @Dont-hit-trees: you guys can talk shit all day unchecked. But if someone with facts pushes back on the BS it's retalitory chirping? So you can all say whatever you want so long as you are never challenged? You can be rude and it's ok but if someone checks your rudeness in a response that person out of line?

Perhaps people should check their words a bit before they just go spraying them here from behind their anonymous keyboards?
  • - 9
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 1:00) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: hahaha... man you need to take a few yoga and relaxing sessions... mister short fuse... you only discredit yourself more and more like this.
  • + 1
 @Trailstunter: discredit? Like your engineering skills a few comments below?

Facts don't really makes sense to you do they ?

Keep fighting the good fight though
  • + 0
 Trump
  • - 14
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:05) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: now you are even starting to send me private messages to state your points.. whaha... this is more and more the behavior of a little kiddo...you totally make a fool out of yourself... even responding to old topics where I posted... get a life and take a joint Dave...
  • + 15
 @Trailstunter:
yes I sent you a private message to tell you that you have been posting here and in other threads with a lot of made up facts...

Saying courses were changed by EWS after Martin crashed, insisting yetis have two shocks, thst Sam is only winning because Martin missed a race, or that PB features like this are paid ads. All in the last 24 hours so hardly digging though old threads. Non of this is remotely true, and easily proven otherwise but you continue to push and insists.

I figured it more polite to ask you why you feel the need to make this stuff up via a private message rather than public no? I simply wrote you a private message saying that if you are going to state mistruths, made up nonsense, and run loose with facts you should be fully prepared for other PB members to set the record straight.

What's your angle here? You seem to be stirring the pot in multiple threads with all kinds of nonsense? And sometimes just making things up out of things air that never happened?

Why?

And I think you are mistakening who looks the fool here ;-)
  • - 20
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:25) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore:

But there you go again, like a lose dog.. biting and throwing fury wild ... like you did to most here who had critisism on your and your friends article...

You just cannot take opinions that are not in the same street as yours... pretty narcistic haha...

Are you also getting sleepless now cause of all this energy, those cruel and angry men who are opposing you and how dare they be so mean! I am the famous photoboy... nobody can touch my ego nor my friends'

Poor you...
  • + 13
 @Trailstunter:

No it's not an opinion if it's 100% false based in facts. You are straight up just making up lies left and right in various threads on the current home page.

You can have option but ya can't just make stuff up and claim it as a fact when easily proven otherwise. It's not narcisim if I tell you you are lying about basic facts, and saying this that paint riders and race organizers in a negative light to support your made up narrative. It's not ego to defend the work of your co-workers from someone trolling them, or simply just making things up to start an argument. And it's not angry to stand behind your own hard work, the work of others, and the integrity/sportsmanship of athletes and an organization... All things you are mocking or attemoting to be misleading on.

No one has insulted you (yet) but in your defense of your "opinion" you've decided to insult me numerous times (loose dog, narcissist, photoboy, ego, little kiddo, fool, etc)

Probabaly a good time for you to just walk away ;-)
  • - 15
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:42) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: haha and you keep going onnnnnn......

You really think that I will go into a discussion with you like how childish you act? The truth depends from what angle you look... you have a different angle, fine. But you cannot handle that cause the whole world must believe your factual world.

Your behavior exposes how small your ego is... good luck with that...
  • + 10
 @Trailstunter: "the truth depends from what angle you look"

Oh my... You've said all you've ever needed to say in that one sentence.

Thank you
  • - 14
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:53) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: It goes beyond your level of intelligence apparently.

Go make pictures dude... you are better in doing then talking that is pretty clear Wink
  • - 14
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 3:04) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore:

About the truth.... Tell me... is the size of a meter a fact and so the truth?
  • - 15
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 3:16) (Below Threshold)
 Well I will give you the answer, cause you are probably not understanding why I ask.

The official meter is not a meter, but the accepted truth as a meter... the official meter differs in size... but in most calculations, we don't take this in the calculation but accept what we call a meter as the truth and calculate with it... therefore all the calculations with a metric size in it, are a lie on itself but an accepted truth...

Something about angles Davy? Wink
  • + 4
 "Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I tried to defame a guy with a forum post."

@Trailstunter, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for trolling.
  • - 8
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 8:00) (Below Threshold)
 @guylovesbike:

I am in my basement, curtains closed.. food for months, all electronics unplugged, login on PB through a VPN in Russia, the CIA, FBI, NSA, FSB, MI5/6, Mossad and Euro/Interpol are looking for me and asking weird questions to my family...

I know... the big Dave Trumpore is insulted, the holy one... I cannot say if I am alive tomorrow... I loved being here.... Gonna miss you all darlings... Over and Out...
  • - 7
flag mollow (Sep 25, 2018 at 11:27) (Below Threshold)
 Still not sure which is most impressive; Richie Rude winning his first 3 races on the new yeti or Trumpore still being paid by Pinkbike?
  • + 1
 @skilots: He didnt write the article. He only took photos.
  • + 2
 @mollow: or you being banned for the 4th time in a year and still writing this kind of crap the day they turn your account back on? Wonder how long until they kick off permanently
  • + 2
 @Trailstunter:

Rudi... You know he's laughing at you, not with you right ?
  • - 2
 @davetrumpore: I’m sorry. I’m only stating an opinion I’m not saying I’m correct. From reading through the comments some people share that opinion. It’s not just this one time or I wouldn’t have wasted my time typing. Just wanted my voice to be here. Please chill. Pinkbike is huge! The staff is obviously doing something right.
All the best.
  • + 1
 @davetrumpore: that's some pretty compelling bike porn. Of course, if you'd titled it something along those lines rather than a bike check, you would probably have gotten flak for that somehow, too.
  • + 2
 This thread is getting pretty dark. But boy is it ringing up the ad dollars for PB.
  • - 6
flag Trailstunter (Sep 26, 2018 at 1:26) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: like I take anything serious from you anymore hahaha
You have personal vendetta's with many people Dave ... are you still sleeping well?
  • + 3
 @Trailstunter: what the hell. Are you 3! Grow up you pathetic cretin and f*ck off back to reddit
  • - 2
 @T1mb0: whahahaha your comment made my day!
  • + 4
 See you in 2 years @mollow Now if we could only get rid of @Trailstunter
  • - 2
 @elpsstoffo: whahahahaha....
You sound like an Italian mobster... only the sound..
  • + 97
 The bike also won first place in the "most difficult linkage to clean" category.
  • - 16
flag Trailstunter (Sep 23, 2018 at 22:59) (Below Threshold)
 The more parts the easier it will break and the more expensive it get's...
  • + 9
 @Trailstunter: these bikes look like a complete pain in the ass
  • - 31
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 4:50) (Below Threshold)
 All for the looks and a marketing story. Imagine another shock to service too...
  • + 5
 @Trailstunter: It's not a shock, it is just two Kashima tubes that get Greased. It is a lot of moving shit going on in there and always so fun to overhaul a Yeti Wink
  • - 28
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 6:35) (Below Threshold)
 @MrDiamondDave: there must be some mechanism to get the stuff back in neutral place... so there is some shock work going on there...
  • + 0
 @bartb: but it's not tho!
  • - 3
 @bartb: but it's not tho!
  • + 2
 @Trailstunter: nope. It’s literally 2 rails that slide up and down. The position the suspension settles in is determined by how much air pressure is in the shock.
  • - 19
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 7:15) (Below Threshold)
 @duffman1976: Still the more moving parts, the bigger the chance of faillure. The golden rule of engineering...
  • + 9
 @Trailstunter: Yeah for bad engineers.
  • - 18
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 9:13) (Below Threshold)
 @chillrider199: you clearly are no engineer
  • + 17
 @Trailstunter: Yeah, that guy clearly doesn't understand engineering like you do. Can you explain to us again how this suspension design works with the "second shock"?

"Imagine another shock to service too..."

"There must be some mechanism to get the stuff back in neutral place... So there is some shock work going on there..."
  • + 6
 @duffman1976: It's obvious who has rebuilt a Yeti and who has not...
  • + 1
 @Trailstunter: True, but what "active" suspension has less? You either have a single pivot, or "more moving parts."
  • + 0
 @MrDiamondDave: Yup, I’ve rebuilt/cleaned mine 3 times now in a year. It’s really easy to work on and simple despite what the PB “experts” will post that have never worked on one.
  • - 1
 @Trailstunter: obviously you've never owned a recent yeti..
  • - 10
flag Trailstunter (Sep 24, 2018 at 18:20) (Below Threshold)
 @duffman1976: I have not taken apart my capra once in a year and still working great... one of the reasons you have to take yours apart is cause more moving parts need more service. Simple design wins 99% of the time in reliability. Law of engineering, hate me for it, but it is just the truth.
  • + 1
 @Trailstunter: Not aware of this "law" but I appeciate complexity can reduce reliabilty - it's not a certainty though. A human body is far more complex than a yeti and it's arguably more reliable.

The design details, construction, materials, tolerances, operational environment etc. all come into play.

Without actual raw data, I would be hard pressed to comment on a yeti SB150's reliability vs a YT Capra.
  • - 8
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 1:04) (Below Threshold)
 @gmt: a human body is weak on itself, but got loads of methods to heal itself... that is completely another topic and not about reliability ... it is getting hurt and wounded all the time...

An engineer would do everything he could to avoid complexity if not needed and if needed, on a place where it is clean and stays clean as possible. Moving parts and sand/water are enemies... but that is pure logic right?
Santa Cruz has the same with their system, all mud and sjizzle piling up there.. but that they changed. And it was a much simpler system.
  • + 1
 @Trailstunter: Fair enough on the self repair of a body, though that does add to my arguement on reliabilty vs complexity to some degree. There is some work looking at self repairing composite materials going on so we may see it on bikes eventually!

Agree that keeping things as simple as possible minimises risk but I was just making the point that the simplest design is not aways the most reliable. The slider parts on the Yeti are based on dropper post and suspension fork methodology so are fairly well proven ouside of a frame. Whether they are less relaible that a santa cruz linkage design, I cannot say without supporting raw data.

Summary: Not disagreeing with your logic or hypothesis - just saying that data is required in order to be conclusive.
  • + 5
 @gmt: I wonder if he knows his YT has more bearings than a Yeti?

Probabaly not. But curious how he will still further bend his argument to suit this fact.
  • - 8
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:11) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: haha Davy, you are totally in the Yeti sponsorships huh?
I mean ohhh you get so agitated when there is some critisism about your holy topics...
My point still stands... the complexity of engineering gives more faillure, in 99% of the cases.... you can send me 1000 more pm's, and nagg all you want, but you are just behaving like a kid who has a little ego...
  • + 5
 @Trailstunter: Looks like you've made it to 7 comment responses to the original comment about linkage complexity that are below threshold so far. Congratulations! You're an asset to the Pinkbike community.
  • + 2
 @OriginalDonk: still can't figure out why @Trailstunter: is still confused why he thinks he can just make stuff up, lie, make more stuff up, etc, but it's everyone else with the problem and not him.

He did however just tell me that "the truth depends from what angle you look" so that certainly sheds plenty of light on his mindset here.
  • - 11
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 2:59) (Below Threshold)
 @OriginalDonk: Yeah pretty proud on that indeed... Not so hard..

If you wanna be populair:
- just acknowledge all the PB crew is telling.
- Shout "flat pedals win medals"
- Shout Sam Hill ..... bla di bla...
- Shout something positive about 29-ers.

To get unpopulair:
- Have a different opinion about all the above...
  • - 8
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 3:01) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: whahaha... and there he goes again!
Classic case of projection you are mister Davy...

Let me ask you one question. Is a meter (the size) factual or not?
  • - 8
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 3:11) (Below Threshold)
 @davetrumpore: Well I will give you the answer, cause you are probably not understanding why I ask.

The official meter is not a meter, but the accepted truth as a meter... the official meter differs in size... but in most calculations, we don't take this in the calculation but accept what we call a meter as the truth and calculate with it... therefore all the calculations with a metric size in it, are a lie on itself but an accepted truth...

Something about angles Davy? Wink
  • + 2
 @Trailstunter: Youre like Protour but you fell down an extra flight of stairs as a baby.
  • - 5
flag Trailstunter (Sep 25, 2018 at 8:42) (Below Threshold)
 @chillrider199: thank you, now I finally u derstand my complex relationship with my mother... many thanks mr psych..
  • + 18
 The design of this bike is such a vast departure from the Sb6. The enormous reach and wheelbase have to be a bit of a different ride. Wheelsize aside. Id like to hear him talk about the differences.
  • + 8
 “Working out crank arm length”... Carefully chosen pictures that avoid highlighting the drivetrain. The fact he is using 8 year old Saint brakes instead of the new XTR that are supposedly more powerful with better modulation. Shimano made a huge deal about every random XC pro running XTR but they dont trust the new stuff enough to put it on the bike of one of the worlds top enduro riders. Look at the lack of updates on their social media...

Shimano is having some sort of serious problems with the new XTR. Or they are repeating the mistakes of the past and they don’t care about anything that isn’t XC. Either way, it needed to be in market months ago.

Seems like potential XTR problems and one of the top enduro riders not running the new stuff because of them is a much bigger story, no?
  • + 0
 Hey, look who's here to complain about delays with the new xtr. Nobody cares dude. I'd rather they take an extra year to deal with production problems, and then release a refined product, than to rush it to market. Sram rushes to market, and shimano gets it right. It'll all be okay in the end pal. Just try to take a deep breath, maybe even go for a bike ride sometime.
  • + 20
 @thegoodflow: I would say the biggest component manufacturer in the world having problems with their flagship components to the point where they won’t allow their best racers to ride it is kind of a big deal...
  • + 18
 Thought Shimano had a warehouse fire and theres no new xtr available. It was suposed to be out.

So the cranklemgth issue may be accurate and misleading. Shimano has no m9120 170’s so he cant find the new crankarms in his size. True but avoids the real reason.

With respect to 8 year old saint brakes.. if it aint broke..

Shimano and sram both make good stuff. Youre not special cause you like one more than the other.
  • + 9
 I know crank production was affected by that fire a while back... Being that he runs a Stages power meter, I'm guessing that there isn't a set up for that and the new crank yet...
  • + 3
 After weekly lever bleeds and monthly full bleeds on multiple sets of wonky XT brakes I've given up on Shimano brakes. I switched to Magura trail sports about a month ago and it is a WORLD of difference. Power, modulation and consistency. I can't recommend these things enough. Just don't be a dumbass and try to use a Shimano bleed kit like I did. The fittings are off just enough that you will end up with mineral oil everywhere Smile .
  • + 2
 @wibblywobbly: Okay, I'll take your word for how "kind of a big deal" it is. So they had a problem somewhere along the way, and presumably they're now fixing it. Shit happens. I'm just confused why you act all personally offended about it, like shimano kicked your dog or something.
  • + 2
 Wonder if it's Yeti's way of saying "it's the frame winning, not the drivetrain" even though we know "it's the rider, not the bike"
  • + 3
 @Grosey: "Shimano and sram both make good stuff. Youre not special cause you like one more than the other."

Agreed. Just upgraded the drivetrain on my main bike to m8000/9000, with xx1 cassette.

It's just funny seeing these dudes who sit around and whine to the internet that they have to be a little patient about consuming the latest and greatest thing. I'll be the guy that waits three years and buys it for half price when these guys move on to needing the next thing... need it so bad right now! And that "obsolete" stuff? Still works as well as it ever did back when you had steam coming out of your ears because you just couldn't give them msrp for it fast enough. But now it's crap and the bike sits in the corner while folks whine to the internet instead of riding.
  • - 6
flag thesharkman (Sep 24, 2018 at 9:18) (Below Threshold)
 @MikeAzBS: Richie's struggles on the 5.5 and his dominance on the 150 show it's the bike. I just hope Yeti offers some sort of compensation to the poor souls who dumped all that money into a 5.5.
  • + 9
 @thesharkman: you mean winning the roughest and hardest race of the year in Olargues on a 5.5? Or winning 4 stages on the long and rough tracks in Chile?
  • + 3
 @thesharkman: @thesharkman: Is this a joke?

www.pinkbike.com/news/winning-bike-check-richie-rudes-yeti-sb55.html

The compensation has been giant smiles and going really fast on my 5.5 - I'll take that.
  • + 2
 Those 8yr old brakes are still I've of the most powerful, well-performing options on the market. What does that tell you?
  • + 10
 I want this bike. Although that's not saying much cause that's almost every bike I see on here.
  • + 7
 Is that a cat standing on rear legs on the wall (between downtube and front whell)? ))

ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb16384599/p6pb16384599.jpg
  • + 10
 Ok, @ka81, enough bong hits for now!
  • + 1
 LOL! How in the world did you see that. I see it now that you pointed it out.
  • + 2
 can i go camping with you?
  • + 3
 I would love to ride this bike, but people aren't wrong to question ALL of that stuff going on in the lower linkage (maybe even upper now too) area. Something tells me Richie could win on a much more "sophisticated" suspension. And I'm using Leo Decinici's description of sophisticated design: "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."
  • + 3
 Leo did make a fine pizza...
  • + 0
 Who the F is Leo Decinici?

So you've got a single speed, hard tail, rigid fork - nice.
  • + 3
 @Jaguar83: Right the spelling police. Thanks. No edit button and cellphone. Leonardo Da Vinci. I didn't say lack of function but functional yet Sophisticated beyond other designs, that what was Leo was talking about. It shouldn't be this opaque to you...
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: *Leonardo da Vinci - c'mon, bro. No caps on the da.

What is your point? He's sponsored by Yeti so he rides their bikes...
  • + 6
 Pretty sure that's a Garmin Edge head unit, not a Stages one, despite the sticker on the top.
  • + 4
 It would be good if we got just more than pics and a list. Understanding what gear ratios, shock and tire set up etc would be really useful.
  • + 5
 But wait! "Richie can't be winning on a 29er because they suck!" "SB6 is a real man's bike"
  • + 4
 Glad someone said it. The 29er haters are mysteriously absent from this thread....
  • + 1
 Sweet rig! But until Yeti comes down in price a bit, I'll never consider one. Not that any of these carbon superbikes are cheap, but I fail to see how this is $3800, while carbon superbikes from smaller companies likeTransitions/Evils are $3k flat. Even a Santa Cruz Bronson cc is $3300. Just doesn't add up in my head?
  • + 1
 A full blown Canyon Strive from the outlet is $3k with a Lyrik RCT3 right now. Thats the same price as my Ripmo frame. Yeti has gone into the stratosphere and their customer base will eat that shit up.
  • + 1
 I’m sick of these shit bike checks!! Anyone can look at a pic and call it a bike check! How about some details... did he run those tires front and rear? How about some thoughts on why the bike was built like that!! Bike checks have been super lame! I’m might as well catch Richie back home at Burke or highland or wherever and ask myself! Dam nothing like seeing a sick ad posted for an article and having to do my own work !
  • + 1
 This bike would be so much cooler for a non pro without the shock extender! Pros don’t care cause they probably get new shocks ever race. I’m excited to see a long term review of how those eyelets hold up; would make me nervous to drop that kind of money on a bike to destroy the eyelets on a $900 shock.
  • + 0
 Those are all retail prices from quick google searches, but yeah you all should get what I mean! And I'm biased because I do own a carbon Sentinel...but bought it used because even at $3k....can't justify spending that much on a frame alone.
  • + 1
 Just picked up used aluminum Sentinel frame for $1k. Best 35lbs I've ever spent!
  • + 3
 "Maxxis rubber showing the wear from Ainsa's unforgiving tracks." And Rude's unforgiving riding lol.
  • + 2
 I would like to know why he is running j-bend spokes with classic hubs rather than DT's system wheels which use the same rims.
  • + 2
 Are you saying you expected him to be on Straight pull spokes?
  • + 3
 That downtube looks like it would cop a hit a fair way before the bash guard the way it sticks out so much.
  • + 5
 Medium or Large?
  • + 1
 Yeah keen to know what size. The reach on the new SB150 is miles bigger than previous Yetis. Wonder which he prefers.
  • + 1
 Takeaway here is that people like detailed bike checks. How about doing more frequent detailed bike checks? Doesn't have to be 15 minutes after the race. I'd think race teams (sponsors) would eat up the exposure.
  • + 4
 No word on Fox's Kashima starting to look a lot more like Marz's Espresso?
  • - 2
 You mean wearing off quickly?
  • + 3
 Is there a "Best of PinkBike" forum I can visit so I don't have to waste my time reading any rational comments?
  • + 2
 and Rude didn't get any flat tyres this time, and no mention to the Cush Core insert that he was riding...
  • - 1
 7th picture ... Cush Core valve stem should give that detail away.
  • + 4
 @davetrumpore: yeah, that is how I noticed it
  • + 5
 @davetrumpore: not everyone knows that. It’s a shit bike check
  • - 3
 @andnyleswillriot: Did you just come here to complain about free content? Stop being so entitled and step off your high horse.
  • + 1
 @davetrumpore: I use cushcore valve stems without actual cushcore simply because I had cushcore at one point. This really isnt a bike check.
  • - 2
 @gnarnaimo: someone’s butt buddy is ybsurf
  • + 1
 Wonder what crank length he uses? I still prefer 175 but all the new bikes seem to have dropped to 170 as the bbs have got lower..
  • + 12
 I have 3 XC rides on my new 170mm cranks, and I honestly can't really notice a difference other than way less pedal strikes. I've been on 175mm for...... 25+ years? It's really not bad. I think I like it!
  • + 10
 More like the stages power meter are not available for XTR M9100 yet.
  • + 4
 @nuttypoolog: I did 2 rides on my new 170 cranks and it feels awkward, especially when cranking full power. Last bike I had with 170 is 25 years ago, roadbike. Exaxtly the same feel. But: no pedal strikes so far.
  • - 9
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 23, 2018 at 23:19) (Below Threshold)
 My race BMX came with 180 cranks. Apparently unrideable! Took me 10 days to dare to make the first full stroke. I built up to it in case my knee was to explode.
@nuttypoolog just wait, the short crank front for optimized efficiency and PRs will now get you anytime.
  • + 1
 I'm 6-4 tall guy, on some bikes, pedal strikes are getting common. I wonder what the shorter cranks would be like.
  • + 0
 It’s 5mm. I wouldn’t worry about it
  • - 5
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2018 at 1:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Svinyard: not as good as learning to time your pedal strokes Big Grin
  • + 1
 @dubod22: You would't worry about it as regards pedaling efficiency or reduction in pedal strikes? Not criticizing, but it is unclear to me your meaning.
  • + 5
 @bart882: my point being that mountain biking surpasses even road riding for making incremental changes.

I’m all for evolution of bikes but worrying about 5mm or half a degree ignores the most important and adaptable part on a bike - the rider.

Sam Hill wins races on an ‘unfashionable’ medium frame with a 50/60mm stem and flat pedals.

Aaron Gwin wins races on TRP brakes and other smallish brands.

Loic Bruni wins championships on 2.35 tyres.

There’s a ballpark figure across the Mtb world but within those figures it’s about the rider making it work.

My point being don’t worry about it.
  • - 8
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2018 at 6:11) (Below Threshold)
 @dubod22: rider makes the work? Do you even ride bro? Look, virtually all bikes come with 175 cranks. if I don't question it, eventually posting a link to some half arsed article by some ex roadie who lost some testosterone and gathered some fat over the years, how else will I shine on a MTB forum? Furthermore quoting a "scientific article" written by some PhD who can't really ride (cuz he writes the fkng thesis) and used his friends as samples, possibly Joeys, only to get a grant to finance his mortgage and his professors boat. If you don't want to submit to our religion of optimum, then maybe change sport since with that attitue you will never be a good mountain biker.

So how about trying the "riding a bike in the woods alone" RABITWA". Sounds a bit Jewish, I do it often, it's quite fine sport actually. Cheaper than MTB and less focus on what you wear. Not much bromance, not much PRs but lots of pressing on pedals, pulling on bars, changin directions by leaning. Strongly recommended.
  • + 3
 @Svinyard I'm 6'4 also...went from 175 to 170 a bunch of years ago when the bikes started getting lower--really helped out with less strikes actually
  • + 2
 I wound up with 170s on my road bike and 175s on the MTB and I forget there even is a difference. Look at your 5mm allen key and tell me how important that is?
  • + 2
 @BigLips93: I run 175's on my 4X bikes for extra gate snap. At 5'11 in me boots I had 170's on my trail bike. Had some cranks come up at a ridiculous price so I bought them for my trail bike despite being 175mm.
Noticed it straight away! An I need to change back. The extra length that gives more power is good for sprints, but for seated long distance a 170 will spin with less effort
Yes, that 5mm makes a difference
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2018 at 7:35) (Below Threshold)
 @nojzilla: and here you bring us to the pointlessness of online discussion. Individual Specificity. Consider options, test whatever you can, measure results, make conclusions, buy equipment, forget about it.

In most cases: consider options, buy equipment, > consider options, buy equipment > consider options, buy equipment...
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: well I could have just typed the last sentence of my post with no evidence or reason but, y'know
  • - 1
 @nojzilla: sorry for going nietzchean. You made a fair comment. That was my terrible way of saying it.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: no worries, it's the Internet. An we all know I'm firmly in the PB troll club
  • + 3
 That's a Garmin 520 computer w. a Stages sticker - odd.
  • + 1
 That's actually a great idea. The Stages Dash is kinda lame, and the new 520 Plus has a lot of added features that could really help a racer. I noticed the entire Ainsa Zona Zero event routes are on Trailforks. Here's a better pic of it from back in 2016 (so it's likely not a "Plus" model): bikerumor-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Yeti-EWS-fox-racing-team-richie-rude-cody-kelley-bike-check-20.jpg
  • + 0
 @PHeller:I have a 520+ with trail forks and found it to be pretty much impossible to navigate with it. Picture trying to ride the trail as fast as possible, then having to look down for several seconds to determine where the next turn is. Oops, you hit a tree...
  • + 1
 @bryanus: Obviously using to navigate while riding at full blast isn't the intention. If you're riding a new trail system it certainly beats pulling out your phone at every intersection.
  • + 1
 @PHeller:

Yes that's what I got it for. Unfortunately even in that scenario it was very difficult to use (for me). It does beep at you as turns come up, but unless you are under 5mph you will often miss the direction change. At least that was my experience. I ultimately had to use my phone and the trailforks app on it in order to to get back on course, which is exactly what I was hoping to avoid!

I would be surprised if Rude was using the garmin for actual navigation of the race course. I just don't see how he could do it light speed.
  • + 1
 "Yeti's Switch Infinity system seems to have performed well for Rude this weekend." LOL, what does this even mean? This reads more like a Yeti ad than a bike check.
  • + 2
 Switch Infinity integration is so ugly. So much carbon surfaces in the bottom bracket/seat tube area.
  • + 1
 I'd love to see Rude (or Any rider for that matter) try to change out a flat with a tire that has cushcore inserts in them trailside. Good luck with that!
  • + 1
 Pretty sure he'd hit it with a tire plug from his OneUp EDC tool, make it back to the pit, and let "Polar Bear" Shaun battle it. Probably even more brutal with the DH tires he's probably running.
  • + 1
 Where can I buy Saint calipers upgrade my xt brakes?
Cool to see how a bike is set up for Enduro just after a race . Keep up the good work Dave.
  • + 2
 What is that on the outside of the fork leg, near the brace? Air bleed valve maybe? It’s too blurry for me to see.
  • + 2
 two fenders nerrrrdddddddd
  • + 1
 Do the yeti riders truly ride production frames or are they some sort of one offs?
  • + 1
 Does Rude use the oneUp tool or does he carry a separate set of tools for quick acess? Like we have seen Sam Hill doing?
  • + 1
 OMG! Matt Damon! So hot right now!
  • + 1
 Am i the only one that's missing 26"?
  • - 3
 Switch Infinity is basically a type of VPP design but I guess the lower system gives it more lateral stiffness than the traditional VPP type designs. Interesting changes they have made to it over the SB6, wonder what the ride differences are?
  • + 1
 Interesting he went back to saint brakes.
  • + 2
 "Went back to" XTR M9000 everything else, too, after they made the launch video. Figure they either don't have enough ready to supply an EWS team for (half of) a season, or M9100 Mayne isn't as good as that video and all the article made it seem...
  • + 1
 Love how they're using the excuse "working out some crank length issues".

I'm pretty sure the new XTR cranks are available in the same length
  • + 2
 @T1mb0: Stages Power doesn't have any yet and he runs Stages. That is is the crank issue. (Mate of my works at Stages)
  • + 0
 @bman33: Thats still not the stated "crank length issue"... thats an issue with Stages own supply.
  • - 1
 @T1mb0: He knows what cranks lengths he wants to run. Stages doesn't have the new XTR in the length he likes..
  • + 2
 @bman33: I'm not disputing anything to do with stages... Go a re-read what I've said.

The caption on the picture clearly says "... working out some crank-length issues".
Nothing about you and your friend who "works" at Stages.
  • + 1
 "Went back to"...hasn't he always ran Saint's? He used to run Saint Calipers with XTR Race Levers, but is now running Saint levers too. I wasn't able to find any mentions of Rude ever running anything but Saints.
  • + 1
 @PHeller: when the new XTR dropped a month or two ago there was all kinds of publicity and buzz over the riders that were running the new grouppo. Richie was one of the riders that was using the new stuff and it appears hes gone back to what he was using before.
  • + 1
 It appears you are correct. Maybe his "North America" bikes is different from his "World" bike.

bike.shimano.com/en-US/information/news/richie-rude-debuts-xtr-m9100.html

One thing that is interesting to note however is that he didn't use his Stages power meter during his Big Mountain Enduro events. My guess is that the SB150 was setup a few months ago for him to start getting acquainted with, but they weren't quite ready to for the debut of it. Meanwhile, Shimano sent him the new goods, and he installed them on his everyday racebike.
  • + 1
 Bet this bike smashes the guts.
  • + 1
 Beautiful bike but i definitely prefer the orange forks!
  • + 1
 #fastfitty
  • - 2
 Bet yeti are overjoyed you photo'd the way the cable rubs the linkage
  • + 2
 I think that's just dust. If you open the picture itself, the brown areas are present in far too irregular way for cable rub. Plus, if it was cable rub, I'd think you see paint wear and carbon exposure after such long race.
  • + 7
 Just dust on a still dirty bike shot 15 mins after Richie finished racing.
  • + 4
 Yeah, from now on please make sure to avoid taking any photos that include cable rub so we don't upset any frame manufacturers.
  • + 1
 Just dust bro, the rear linkage doesn’t even rotate that much to rub there.
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