Bike Yoke Shifty: SRAM Derailleur Upgrade - Review

Dec 1, 2017
by Richard Cunningham  
BikeYoke Shifty for SRAM 11 and 12 speed derailleurs
BikeYoke's Shifty guide-roller replaces the standard plastic item near the top of SRAM's 11 and 12-speed rear derailleurs.


BikeYoke's Shifty is a beautifully crafted aluminium pulley that spins on a sealed, stainless steel ball bearing. Shifty replaces the plastic pulley which guides the cable around the back of SRAM's eleven and twelve-speed rear derailleurs. It looks sharp and it actually improves the feel and reliability of the shifting process. Its maker claims that the simple plastic pulley, which rotates on a metal axle, creates excessive friction that is compounded by dirt and grime. Replacing the stock item with a Shifty pulley is said to provide smoother, more consistent shifts in all conditions and weather. Bike Yoke's Shifty pulley is sold in either anodized gold or black and costs around $35 USD.


Shifty Details:
• Purpose: Reduce friction and increase accuracy
• Construction: Stainless steel sealed ball bearing, 6061 T6 aluminum pulley
• Direct replacement for standard pulley
• Installation: Uses existing SRAM hardware
• Colors: Anodized black or gold
• MSRP: Around $35 USD
• Contact: BikeYoke


BikeYoke Shifty for SRAM 11 and 12 speed derailleurs
BikeYoke's Shifty aluminum upgrade alongside SRAM's standard plastic pulley.


Features and Performance

Truthfully, I chuckled when I received my Shifty guide-roller from BikeYoke. Really? A $35 bling pulley that probably weighed more than twice as much as the plastic one that was operating perfectly well. Each time I saw that gold-anodized gem glinting in its zip-lock bag, however, I couldn't help but think, "That thing would look so sweet on my Eagle derailleur."

BikeYoke Shifty for SRAM 11 and 12 speed derailleurs
Two 3mm Allen keys are all you'll need to install the pulley.
BikeYoke Shifty for SRAM 11 and 12 speed derailleurs
Shifty's diameter was identical. The derailleur remained in tune.

Okay, so I caved and installed the damn thing, which was stupid easy. The two pulleys can be switched without removing the derailleur cable. You could probably ace the job with the rear wheel removed and the derailleur in place. I removed the changer from the frame because I wanted to shoot pictures. Two 3mm Allen keys were required to unthread the sleeve nut and retaining screw. The housing then popped off, along with the plastic pulley. I used the Shifty pulley to push the derailleur cable back inside the housing and reinstalled the hardware. Boom!

So, I didn't expect much in the way of performance. I cared most about how great my gold pulley would look with my gold cassette and against the gold highlights of my Eagle derailleur. But, it did perform better. I rode around on three test bikes, each equipped with SRAM 12-speed transmissions, with run-times that ranged from three weeks to over one year. The Shifty-equipped changer felt smoother at the lever and shifted more crisply in two out of three cases. (There was no discernible difference between the new bike and my Shifty upgraded machine.)


Pinkbike's Take:

bigquotesYou don't need a BikeYoke Shifty, but after you see one mounted to a SRAM changer, I'll bet you'll be lusting after it. Noting that my well-broken-in, Shifty-equipped derailleur's performance was on par with a brand new SRAM Eagle transmission, here's the takeaway: If you regularly cleaned and lubricated your stock plastic pulley, it would probably continue to perform almost as well. Or, you could spend $35, install a Shifty and never think about it again. Reliability? Aftermarket aluminum chain-tension pulleys spin perfectly for years, so I expect my gold Shifty to be smooth and maintenance-free at least for the life of the derailleur.RC

184 Comments

  • + 220
 Stocking stuffer for that dentist that already has everything.
  • + 112
 people really hate dentists these days. let me see your teeth
  • - 6
flag jclnv (Dec 1, 2017 at 9:02) (Below Threshold)
 They may make the best dropper post but I'm not convinced they should have bothered with this.
  • + 9
 Same old hackneyed joke. So much for mountain bikers being creative. :/
  • + 3
 @jclnv:
You will miss it if you don't give a try to this part. Once I put it on one of my bikes, I replaced all 6 I have in my herd...
  • + 33
 How about us overpaid tech executives? No hate for us? Feeling a little left out here.
  • + 15
 When my shifting starts to deteriorate I either buy a new bike or sometimes a new drivetrain (if I'm not tired of the bike's colour)
  • + 9
 I've got a buddy who's a dentist. He's probably one of the more value focused consumers I know. He hates to overpay for stuff.
  • + 2
 @krazieghost: people would hate dentists less if they used technology more- picks, chisels and drills and racking in big bucks
  • - 12
flag jclnv (Dec 1, 2017 at 12:01) (Below Threshold)
 @zokinjo: Okay I'll try one. When they make them in black????
  • + 6
 @jclnv: read the article again.
  • + 5
 @salespunk: OK. I'm an overworked, underpaid systems engineer. I hate all you tech executives who make 6 figures on other peoples hard work and sacrifice. Now give me your nice ride.

Feel better? Wink
  • - 9
flag cliffdog (Dec 1, 2017 at 15:02) (Below Threshold)
 I'm not going to lie, what kind of moron jumps on a new X01 eagle drive train and moans about it not being smooth? Shifting is smoother than oily butter!
f*ck off pinkbike!
  • + 87
 Shimano need no pulleys.
  • + 6
 Exactly.
  • + 5
 Amother reason for a gearbox, amiright?
  • + 14
 Nope just a big loop of housing that wears quickly.
  • + 21
 @dugglesthemuddled: except all the new derailleurs don't have the large loop anymore.
  • + 8
 What loop of housing? Have you seen them?

Tucked away and straight as it should be.
  • + 1
 Yup it doesn't, it wont work with or without it anyway...
  • - 14
flag wibblywobbly (Dec 1, 2017 at 11:55) (Below Threshold)
 because Shimano has changed anything in nine years except for making their stuff countries where they don't have to pay a decent wage and letting their quality control go to crap. #givingup
  • + 1
 No, it just need different gear spacing...
  • + 14
 @wibblywobbly: ALL of my Shimano gear has been bullet proof, and quite frankly most of it has lasted way longer than it should have.

What are talking about?
  • + 4
 @excavator666: My '98 XT shifter still gets the job done on my old hard tail..
  • + 0
 I just had to replace the bottom pulley on my m8000 RD because it creaked against my chain. It's also fraying my shift cables at the pivot. I polished and chamfered the part that was fraying my cable but if it still does it I'm tapping out and buying gx eagle. It's the first shimano product I've had design problems with.
  • + 5
 @UtahBikeMike: You are doing it wrong.
  • + 4
 @UtahBikeMike: I have a "Shimano Derailleur Polishing & Chamfering Tool" that solves your problem. I use it daily.

I have a Sram version too, but it costs twice as much.
  • + 0
 @Axxe:
Oh really? Good point. Very insightful. Thanks for that feedback.
  • + 2
 @Axxe but when you turn that clutch on... all shifting ease fails...
  • + 1
 @AdamWest: +100000 I'm seek of seeing people with their cluthes off, every single used shimano derraileur has a blown clutch in it...
  • + 0
 @b-wicked:

My m8000 was overtight from the factory, I loosened it and it's been better than the 10 speed xt clutches, for me. I bet 95% of them don't get checked.
  • + 2
 @UtahBikeMike: Yeah but when bike comes to a '' checker '' it's too late...
  • + 6
 @Poulsbojohnny: My 85 Sram shifter still gets the job done on my penny farthing.
  • + 3
 @tommyman: #60aintdead
  • + 1
 @UtahBikeMike: I'm experiencing the same cable issues.I own three xt 11 speeds and they all fray cables. I've never experienced anything like this and I've run many generations of sram and shimano over the years.
  • + 3
 Neither does my pinion gearbox Wink
  • + 44
 Looks cool. How mu........... nevermind.




"Hey OneUp... wanna do me a favor?"
  • + 37
 Will it fit my rollamajig?
  • + 9
 Yeah just behind your DCD and your power pro cranks!
  • + 7
 @instigator - Well played here, well f*cking played!!!!
  • + 1
 What we have here is a hack of a hack. I was reminded by the Avid logo on the back of that Rollamajig equipped eagle derailleur. That said, I like it, I clean up the stock pulley every now and then, and it does make a difference. Hey, at least SRAM was able to keep using one thing from the Avid acquisition.
  • + 10
 I was going to comment how it's funny that the Rollamajig was a keystone product for Avid that got swallowed by SRAM that now needs a Rollamajig. We have gone full circle.
  • + 1
 They've reinvented the rollamajig (a piece of genius i use daily) so that high-end SRAM mechs will work properly??? Are derailleurs unevolving?
  • + 4
 @BenPea: I use my Rollamajig in combination with the stock cable roller. Two rollers = double smooth shifting. And my thumb is 33.3% less tired after 60 minutes of riding.
  • + 1
 @PinkyScar: well there's no legislating for crazy cable routing... How many do you need before it shifts by itself?
  • + 1
 @BenPea: If I wanted auto shift, I'd use four rollers (3rd one mounts right out of the shifter; 4th one where it enters the frame). Five rollers might be pushing it a bit...
  • + 28
 Dentist here.....I would totally buy it (b/c cheap!) but the gold is the wrong shade. Come on Bike Yoke
  • + 4
 Yeah, but your aren't PB's resident forum dentist; scrapping away the low end garbage, rinsing away average goods, and making sure we buy the most expensive parts after every meal.
  • + 8
 For an extra $35* I'll contact an anodizing shop for you and arrange for you to ship it to them so they can anodize it in the correct shade of gold.

*shipping, anodizing and service fees not included.
  • + 2
 Looks like Shimano gold.
  • + 15
 True dat. Shame on us.
We didn´t get the exact shade of the Eagle, but to be fair, it is really hard to match anodizing colors, if they come from different suppliers and when applied on different materials.
Even the Eagles differ in shades (probably not that much, but they do from batch to batch).
Anyway, the new Shifties have a slightly different gold, however, also not 100% to the Eagle one.
  • + 2
 @Sacki: It is Ti-Ni that eagle is coated with, not anodised..
Like golden eagle titaniumgun.com/coating-services Big Grin
  • + 4
 @tuberkulozis:
Right, I forgot, that the Eagle cage is made from steel. ;-)
I think everyone knows, what I meant.
Even Eagle cage and cassette have different shades of gold.
No doubt that we´re far off, though ;-)
  • - 1
 @pcloadletter: no ..looks more like Fox Kashima Big Grin
  • + 20
 Shouldn't sram be concerned with the amount of products being made to improve their highest end products?
  • - 1
 Just out of curiosity, can you name some examples?
  • + 18
 Reverb Remote, Eagle pulley, Luftkappe air piston...
  • - 7
flag mnorris122 (Dec 1, 2017 at 10:30) (Below Threshold)
 [citation needed]
  • + 3
 @wannabeabiker: Luftkappe, this roller, all the various chainring options, aftermarket Reverb levers to improve their feel and reliability.
  • + 1
 @wannabeabiker: sram should be making stuff so legit I don't need to go to someone else, I don't see aftermarket Shimano stuff??? I should be happy little guys are starting businesses off it but I think for Sean it's worrisome there best isn't the best.
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: OneUp high range derailleur cages come to mind..
  • + 7
 @hirvi: that's to make a product work beyond it's intended or engineered use.
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: Wolftooth makes something for the Shimano rear mech too, to make it work with a larger cassette.

Actually I think these upgrades are good for the SRAM OEM market. Instead of customers being put off by a certain pricy but still not quite there component, customers know they can still get the complete bike and upgrade the components instead of completely replace them.

That said, it still kind of sucks. Those Eagle rear mechs are supposed to be the top level stuff (according to SRAM). Getting it up to this Bike Yoke level would maybe only increase price by 15 usd or so, now you need a 35 usd upgrade.
  • + 7
 @vinay: The shimano hacks are to make the product do something else. Sram hacks are made to make the product work better... It's a different issue. A 450$ seatpost should have a hack to make it better and the top line derailleur should have this hack either.
  • + 1
 @vinay: upgrading components breathes new life into old components. I replaced the jockey wheels on my xx1 rear mech when they wore out. I got the absolut black wheels. I would also get this pulley as well cause it’s $30. Even if it doesn’t make a huge difference I have never serviced the plastic wheel and this would only increase the life of my already 3 year old rear derailleur. Went with the one up switch spider too for my cranks. Genius product for a good price.
  • + 1
 There's no 33% minimum profit to be made making upgrades to the cheaper stuff and dentists don't buy the cheaper stuff anyway.
  • + 13
 it says Avid in the back side of puley's dust cover?? that alone could be causing poor shifting...
  • + 2
 Wow, good eye!
Wonder why they’d do that?
  • + 1
 @bogey: Rollamajig ????
  • + 1
 @hirvi: I know that Avid made the rollamajig but the Avid name is tarnished after years of lousy brakes. Resurrecting a bad name is not great marketing.
  • + 12
 You must be yoking.
  • + 9
 So 1990’s. I had an ano blue one on my LX mech. Made by Daves Chain Device or similar.
  • + 4
 I love that there is not even a comment about the fact that a $1500 group needs a $35 pulley to work decently! GO SRAM! and as usual GO PINKBIKE and its half-way reporting ... still ... you get some info in between the cracks and one can draw conclusions: just for a change I was going to buy a SRAM rear for my city bike but after reading this I will happily stick with Shimano!
  • + 12
 I could say things about both brands derailleurs.

Protip: pick your evil...
  • + 1
 funny how we are talking about mountain bikes here and not city bikes
  • + 5
 @m47h13u: You can. But objectively speaking, Shimano derailleurs are lighter, more compact, less complicated, and cheaper. While SRAM can claim superiority through lighter weight on the cassette front (despite a significantly higher price), there's no doubt Shimano wins on derailleurs.

From my experience they are also significantly more reliable, but that's a subjective line item.
  • + 9
 In RC's defense, he does say that just cleaning and lubing the stock wheel works almost as well. That clean and lube takes well under 5 min, I do it on my XX1 and GX derailleur as part of regular maintenance. I run Zee 7sp on my DH bike and XT 10sp on my hardtail. Shockingly, they all shift gears as advertised.
  • + 1
 @duzzi - I don't feel like RC said that at all. He said this small upgrade made his year-old mech work like a brand new one and he also said he could have achieved the same result by just cleaning and lubing the stock wheel (like catfish noted.) You can hate on pretty much any upgrade the same way. And not sure how this was half-way reporting on PB's part - RC reviewed mtn bike part on a mtn bike website. What's the problem?
  • + 3
 @gtill9000: No problema at all: do you feel like buying a $1500 group that needs a $35 pulley to retain reliability? Go ahead!

Cheers to Bike Yoke by the way. I love their dropper post and it is great that the small guys can show the mighty SRAM how to build a reliable derailleur!

PS @pierson 100: I run Shimano XTR and XTR (shifter) + XT on my two MTB bike. Cassette is SRAM 1042 or the exceptional 11 speed Garbaruk 1048.
  • + 2
 @duzzi: Protip: fan boys are super f*cking annoying. Stop being one.
  • + 2
 I got one for my GX derailleur and definitely enhances the shifting, especially in bad weather and in the smaller cogs where the derailleurs spring tension is the weakest! You can do without but it most certainly makes a difference.
  • + 1
 Your city bike? Is it the comforthy rid that they sell to people that don't know any better?
  • + 1
 Comfort hybrids for the masses
  • + 5
 I've never even come close to an Eagle drive train... I'm shocked they don't already roll on sealed bearings. For the cost, it's almost criminal that they don't, in my opinion.
  • + 7
 Yeah because Eagle derailleurs don't cost enough as it is....
  • + 2
 Nice review. RC states that he recieves a gold colored piece of bling for his drive train. Admits he installed it because it pretty and is skeptic it will improve the shifting. Admits its an expensive chunk of bling and admits it is a slight improvment. Would make a nice stocking stuffer .
  • + 1
 As I wrote above, your doubt is completely without any need. I tested it and than after installed it on all my bikes. The shifting performance, especially in dirt is much better/soft. Bling is the last thing I would look on that part...
  • + 3
 $35 pulley and yet they used a plastic housing ferrule going into the derailleur....hmmm? Also leaving a 2 inches of dangling cable off the derailleur pretty much offsets the bling factor of XX1, just sayin'.
  • + 5
 My OCD started screaming seeing it in the derailleur/cassette photo- that thing looks orange and doesn't match!
  • + 5
 My OCD kicked in when I saw how long that derailleur cable is. That and the cable end crimp as well as the cable housing ferrule isn't in gold?! Come one dude!!! MORE GOLD!!!
  • + 0
 I know several people with diagnosed OCD. Its a crippling disease that ruins lives.

Imagine shaving 2-3 times a day (making your face look like you're a meth-head) because you're worried your facial hair will grow backwards into your brain if you don't shave.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: #unclench
  • + 4
 Most people don't have OCD, they are just fussy bastards, real OCD is all consuming.
  • + 9
 @hamncheez: Totally agree, the term OCD is thrown around too much. Lets call it anal retentive.
  • + 2
 Totally agree guys, I meant no harm by it. I'm OCD about certain things, mainly related to my bikes and truck (think checking the oil and then pressing down on the dipstick 10 times to confirm there's absolutely no chance it's the slightest bit uninserted.)
  • + 6
 You people don't have OCD your just internet picky, in real life once it's dirty and not 12" from your face on a hi def screen you would even know what your looking at
  • + 0
 @pevensey: If only that were true.....
  • + 2
 @hamncheez: well, that ruined this party.
  • + 3
 @Mitch7Yeti: You know if you do it more than 3 times your just playing with your dipstick.
  • + 2
 @rockyjonny: does anal retentive have a hyphen?
  • + 5
 Like an avid rollamig back in the day.
  • + 1
 You would think for the cost of Eagle, it would already come with an aluminum piece in there.
The reason for the smoother feeling shifting? Easy, metal doesn't give or flex near as much as plastic. So when you have heavy cable load with bike and rider seated, the aluminum pully keeps the cable firm in place and directly straight with zero give over the plastic pully.
  • + 1
 So sick of people referring to Dentists and Doctors when it comes to anything that seems expensive. Not saying I agree with All bike prices and related accessories, but don’t hate on people who make a lot of money. If that’s how you feel, you should be honest to yourself and understand why you feel that way - clearly it’s not about bikes.
  • + 1
 i remember when the Avid Rollamajig had something like this before these newer derailleurs came out when we had to loop the cable from the back side there was a gadget that reduced that loop and made it also better shifting

forums.mtbr.com/attachments/drivetrain-shifters-derailleurs-cranks/242798d1173820270-avid-rollamajig-derailleur-cable-device-avid.jpg
  • + 1
 I got this (a black one) for my X01 eagle RD. It might seem like an expensive pointless upgrade but only before you realize that the stock sram plastic one (11.7518.016.000) costs 15 euros and and usually gets chewed up by the cable in less than a full season of riding. This one lasts longer and shifts better.
  • + 1
 The Idea is sound.....the price is ridiculous. Secondly never go with anodized parts if you're looking for bling.....no two anodized parts will ever match each other, and building a black bike with some accent looks ridiculous if your accent color doesn't match..........parts with coatings tend to match up and are more vibrant anyways.........thirdly......get your kids into cycling and they'll never have the money to buy drugs
  • + 1
 Jet washing isn't my main point. They are a useful tool but only if you know how to use them. best general advice is to stay well clear. My point is, I don't like how the bearing is exposed to the elements and its annoyingly common on bikes. Just leads to more unnecessary maintenance.
  • + 5
 No ceramic bearing option? I'm out
  • + 1
 Lol? Can't tell if sarcasm or not.
  • + 3
 I think the price really misses the mark on this. $15 and I'd lightly consider it.
  • - 6
flag ismasan (Dec 1, 2017 at 10:13) (Below Threshold)
 $10 would be more than enough for $1 bearing, $0.5 pulley and $0 R&D...
But PB advertisement doesn't pays itself
  • + 1
 @ismasan: and the award for the most ignorant comment of today goes to... You.
  • - 3
 @therealtylerdurden: explain, please
  • + 11
 @ismasan:
Because you are being a dick with the way you act right now.

1. First of all you have no idea of prices for such a little product. For example those ittle bearings are pretty sensitive to a pressfit, that is just a little too tight. Try to find good quality stainless bearings for your 1USD. Also: The actual Shifty body needs to be extremely precise in inner diameter, otherwise the bearing will noticeably spin roughly.
2. There are two more anodized aluminum flanged reducers inside the bearing to generate the correct spacing and width of the Shifty. Those also cost quite some money. Even If you produced in tens of thousands of units, you would not get somewhere close to where you mentioned. And we produce in way smaller quantites, and assemble and pack (yes this thing needs to be assembled and packed) by ourselves.
Even if SRAM implemented those parts in their RDs, it would cost them more than that.
3. The official price is actually 26.81€ in our webshop and the price includes shipping to anywhere in the world.
Although it does not really take a ot of R&D, it still takes a lot of time to drwa those little pulleys and have samples made, discuss with the suppliers and do that for several days and weeks, until you get the first finished product.
30USD might not be "cheap" for such a little part, but we also want to have a little benefit from it and not work just for fun´s sake.
And please tell me, where we place advertisement, that justifies your words.
So please: Just STFU, if you just want to troll!
  • + 2
 sometimes things are more complicated than they seem... Still, I don't believe this is one of that times, sorry.
  • + 1
 @Sacki: Sacki..we all know you're a dick ...dont make it so obvious Big Grin
  • + 1
 @themountain: Yeah, this may have sounded arrogant, but I am just trying to explain things and get a few tings right here. 30USD might not be cheap, but it is not only the parts cost that make the price. For the Sifty we don´t have sales volumes that allow us to produce dozens of thousands of them in one shot, which could drop the production cost for us singinficantly. We are producing in fairly small batches of hundreds, thus they are quite "exclusive", if you want to put it that way. Then everything from BikeYoke is manufactured in Taiwan, and assembled by our own hands, and not in China or elsewhere. That makes a difference, without being disrespectful towards China. And at the end of the day, we just wanna have a bit of money for ourselves, too.
I can be a dick, but if someone is nice to me, I will treat him the same way.
  • + 0
 @Sacki: I wonder why did that sales pitch on IBC...probably because you would have been slaughtered. Anyway good luck to sell that thing Wink
  • - 2
 @Sacki: just continue to do great reliable and robust products and don’t take much notice to people who just vomit stupid unfounded comments. I’ve always questioned why don’t you do any products to improve Shimano products, since you would open a huge market for yourselves!? Is it just because Shimano gets it right?
  • + 0
 @themountain: Sorry, I don´t get what you mean. What is IBC?
By the way: We´ve been selling the Shifty for over a year, already. Cannot complain.
  • + 0
 @Sacki: wow, I wasn't gonna say anything else, but just checked your website and you just lied!
the Shifty is listed 31€ (26.85€ w/o taxes i guess) , but shipping IS NOT included, so extra 5.95€ that the customer pays.

I might have exagerated but hey, I know what bearings cost, and I can imagine the prices you get.
No way the whole thing cost more than $3.5 each to produce, The only logical reason for assembling yourselves is you save a little bit more, not because you need all the control in such a delicate process (that takes seconds). BUt hey, this is some extra bling for people with $1000 drivetrains, so go ahead.
(PS: not hating on your company, your other stuff looks sound, but please don't get so offended if someone points this is overpriced AF)
  • + 0
 @Sacki: Thank you I was just about to berate all these people complaining about the price and you did it for me if anyone had ever stepped in front of a lathe or mill and produced something they would know how difficult it is to make one little pulley and that's without all the factors of producing for sale. Thank you sir don't take any shit.
  • + 0
 I appreciate when companies keep it classy while confronting detractors. That increases my confidence in their customer service process. The best example I have seen was that unique pivot suspension replacement company for front forks (forgot the name) that was featured a few months ago. People were criticizing him like mad and he handled it very professionally.
  • + 0
 @dbodoggle: call someone dick and tell him to STFU ain't keep it classy in my book
  • + 0
 @ismasan: I did not say that it was classy. I said that I appreciate when companies keep it classy.
  • + 0
 @ismasan:
I did not say you ARE a d***. I said, you were behaving like a dick in this matter, and that is just what you did.
I know I am person, who is not always politically correct (as many would think it should be like "customer is king"), but I am for sure not a person who would swallow everything. Just because a user is a potential customer, does not mean, he can throw anything at me, that he wants, especially not, when "protected" through internet´s anonymity.
I am honest to our customers and I am there for them, whenever thy are in need, I think a lot of customers would prove that sentence right.
Anyway, I see a person as a person. I do not see any person as a potential customer or potential $$$ when someone posts something about one of our products, so I don´t feel like I have to touch him with silky gloves.
What goes around comes around. If someone is rude to me, I am rude back.
It might sound strange to many at first, but this is the way I treat people. I am always polite, but if someone BS me, then I will BS back.
I don´t want to have a business that is based on a false face. I´d rather not sell a product to a customer, who is not convinced about our product, than having to forcefully convince him.
  • + 0
 @ismasan:
And you are wrong again. Please tell that shipping is not included to the hundreds of customers, that ordered the Shifty without paying a single penny for shipping. Shipping is free wordwide from orders over 20€.
Why would you even say, I am lying? Please...
Shipping is free on the Shifty and everything over 20€. Period. You call me a liar?
Also, the parts cost is more than the 3.5 USD, whic you assumed. You have no idea, which materials we use, nor do you know which bearing supplier we chose. Yeah, you can get bearings for very very cheap, but there is huge differences in quality.
Then:
The reason, why we assemble them by ourselves is not, that we want to save some extra money, I´ll tell you why we do this:
Those tiny bearings react very sensitive on pressure from the outer rings. If the press-fit is just slightly too much, then you can feel that the bearing will run a little bit rough. We want every single Shifty to run perfecty smooth, even if this small roughness would no affect the function at all. Probably most of the customers wouldn´t even notive this roughness, but I would.
If we had them assembled outside, people would not really care about this small flaw and just accept it, pack it and send it to us. It is impossible to control such a quality, if you don´t do it by yourself.
That´s the reason.
Your turn. Looking forward to hearing from you about my "free shipping" lie...
  • + 0
 @loganflores:
Thanks for backing me in this case. 3 aluminum machined parts, all of them anodized while one of them additionally laser etched and one high quality stainless stell bearing do not fall from a machine for free.
And also not for 3.5 USD. ;-)
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 @Sacki: check out Hope pulley wheels.
38€ will get you not 1, but 2 pulley wheels, shipping included depending on the shop. They have quality bearings, smaller parts, laser etching and are anodized but they're not made in Taiwan, they're made in the UK, paying UK wages and taxes, still everyone is having a profit.
You'll never recognize the shifty is overpriced (no one ever does) and you'll never convince me of the opposite.
Take care.
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 @dbodoggle: got you wrong mate, my bad
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 @ismasan: Ok, so you are comparing Hope to BikeYoke now? Hope owns an unbelievably impressive machine park; they do not have the need to look for a supplier for their parts. They just produce themselves. That is something completely different and you can not compare that to what we are doing, and how we are producing. We have our suppliers, that we need to pay, we do not produce with our own machines.
Also the MSRP of the Hope Jockey wheels is about 45€, not 38€. Also it does not include world-wide shipping. Also it is made from different materials. But hey, again, I do not want to discuss anymore, I am not a missionary and I do not have to justify myself in front of you.
But at least I´d like to ask for one thing: Not being called a liar, when you are making up things that are obviously not true.
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 @Sacki: What childish discussion...come on Sacki you bought a bunch of tha in Taiwan for x$ and try to pitch it now for 10 times the price Big Grin thats ok for me cause I will never take part in that, but do not commend more in this way because it affects the way people look at bikeyoke Wink
  • + 4
 Time to get Shwifty....I mean. "Shifty" in here.
  • + 4
 Is this the Bass Worm of 12spd SRAM
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 Please tell us you actually installed and used a Bass Worm, lol.
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 @PinkyScar:
Oh yea, back in the days of clear plastic grip shift'rs. Bass worms were a necessary upgrade to make SRAM shifters work
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 @FarmerJohn: Another upgrade for weak Sram clutches: that off-the-back extension bar with the stretched spring attached to the lower pulley cage.. I can't recall what it was called though.
  • + 4
 Wonder what sram thinks about these? On all sram derailleurs in 2019?
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 $35 for that?? You must be yoking!!
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 thumbs up RC and pinkbike to post an honest review, if you got the money go get it.
  • + 4
 There'shimano need for this.
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 OOOHHHHH I get it!

Would be less confusing if you capitalized "no" in ShimaNO.

Ha.
  • + 0
 What an absolute load of bo**ox!

If you do notice the pressure becomes firmer to press the gear lever then you have 3 options;
1) purchase this gimmick & renew cables (costly)
2) clean the original roller wheel & clean cables (FREE)
3) MAN UP! its a little lever your thumb pushes! since when has ANY shift lever became so painful to push that its ruined your ride?

I rest my case.
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 Sorry, you don´t get the idea behind the Shifty. It is not about reducing thumb force. It is about the cable being able to move more easily, especially, when the tension decreases in the fast gears. When the cable tension gets too low, then cable will start sliding over the original pully instead of rolling with the pulley. And that cann cause terrible shifting in dirty conditions.
You can read it in our article description and video.
  • + 1
 For years I've not like the cable entry angles on Shimano or SRAM - back to the days of running a Crud Products pulley maybe - and it is marginal gains, but it does seem an opportunity....
  • + 1
 Nice, I'm always annoyed by the stock pulley not even turning sometimes and thus creating quite a bit of friction, interested to see how it performs during the winter.
  • + 0
 that part
  • + 2
 Once again, a bit more proof that Sram is in perpetual need of improvement with drivetrain components.
  • + 1
 I like how the worlds "best" drivetrain, not to mention perhaps most expensive needs you to spend even more money to get the best performance from it...
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 If it isn't titanium with a ceramic bearing I won't even look at it!
Sincerely Your dentist Big Grin
  • + 1
 Due to the fact that I had to do a double-take every time I came across the word 'Shifty', methinks maybe they should've come up with a different name.
  • + 1
 Really love to see the force and friction comparison numbers on this one. Haha..
  • + 1
 Shimano Yumeya XTR parts comes to mind...at least this has some added function.
  • + 1
 I would love to be able to jet wash a bike and not have to worry and be so careful. Why can't bearings be better protected?
  • + 1
 i'm just going to wait until china and taiwan produces this for $3, that said i doubt i'd ever need it.
  • + 1
 f*ck you $35,not even dentist can afford something like this.its a $10 part max
  • + 1
 Would suit the colourblind or those not blessed with eyes. FFS make it match you goons.
  • + 0
 I love how on enduro-MTB.com they’re doin sweet enduro race bike shootouts and Pinkbike puts this super useful product/article up.
  • + 1
 Why isn’t it in the same gold color? Two different shades makes no sense. Or doesn’t look that good at least.
  • + 3
 Gold, Jerry, gold!
  • + 1
 #roundtine
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 You'd think that SRAMS R and D would have got this pretty much sorted in the first place.
  • + 1
 but when you turn that clutch on... all shifting ease fails...
  • + 2
 Yeah right
  • + 1
 in need a boost yoke,made from dolphin skull
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 Perfect!!
  • + 1
 Helps my shifting.... I like it!
  • + 1
 But is it Di2 compatible?
  • + 1
 Never mind that pulley, the world needs decent replacement jockey wheels!
  • + 0
 Is this made from unicorn poop? 100% recyclable, biodegradable, and no harm to unicorns!
  • + 2
 Is this a yoke?
  • + 1
 Norbs has one on his 29er
  • + 1
 Make red and ill buy 3
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 Anyone else want red?
  • + 0
 what would Brian Lopes do?
  • + 1
 Avid rollamajig
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 Is it jet wash proof? as have seen quite a lot of ball bearing jockey wheels seize up after jet washing
  • + 9
 One of the many reasons to avoid jet washing your bike!
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 wash, dry, OIL, then store it.
  • + 2
 Is it hell. Bearing is sealed but its not covered to give it any protection from the elements. Classic bit of bike engineering. Also, don't jet wash your bike.
  • + 3
 @jiminthestix: I never have an issue jet washing my bike, I just don't point he steam at my bearings or seals.

but that's just me soooo...
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