BikeYoke Revive 185 - Need a Little More Drop?

Jul 31, 2017 at 0:00
Jul 31, 2017
by Stefan Sack  
 
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After launching the 125mm and 160mm on-the-fly bleed-able dropper posts at the beginning of 2017, BikeYoke´s award winning Revive is now available with a whopping 185mm drop!

After more than half a year of field and lab testing, the Revive can now be ordered in its longest version. Due to an extremely low stack height of 41mm and the short overall length, the 185mm version should be able to find its way into a lot of taller riders frames—those who desire more travel than what most competitors can offer.

REVIVE 185 sizing

Deliveries to customers for the 185mm version will start by the middle of August.

Besides the new travel option, all Revive posts have received some other interesting updates:

Microvalve

All Revives now come with a patented new feature called “Microvalve”. Microvalve is a small membrane that sits inside the outer oil/air chamber and is there to minimize the chance of air getting inside the inner chamber, where it would cause a springy post. Unlike an IFP, the Microvalve membrane is installed statically and just offers enough resistance to not let air pass it when the post is static; i.e. when you put the post upside down or lay it down for a while. However, when you drop or raise the post, the pressure will easily bend the membrane, so that oil can pass and won´t affect Revive super smooth action. This membrane will effectively reduce the frequency between required resets while keeping the reset procedure and actuation of the post itself as smooth and easy as before.

Integrated Mini Reset Lever

Currently, the Revive's unique reset feature (see video below) was activated by the turn of a 4mm Allen key. Since a lot of customers asked for an integrated reset-lever (in order to not have to grab the allen key anymore), BikeYoke now offers the Revive with an integrated mini lever, which can be attached to the post in place of the Allen Key. The mini-lever is secured by an o-ring and customers can choose to keep it on the post or take it off for a cleaner look.

The mini lever is retrofittable and owners of current Revive posts can get it directly from BikeYoke's online store. Since the design of the reset mechanism did not change, the reset feature of the new Revive can still be activated by a 4mm allen key. The mini lever will be included in all posts after Eurobike, when ordered from www.bikeyoke.com directly.

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Video in case you haven't seen the unique feature of the Revive, here is a video showing the reset feature.

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Here is how the post works.

BikeYoke is known for rider oriented products and solutions and after releasing their own “Triggy” remote last year, we noticed a lot more upgrade remotes showing up. Enthusiasts want to customize their bikes, and BikeYoke decided to offer the Revive as a “post-only” option. Of course, brands like to see their posts being used with their own remote but, "we eventually want to leave the choice with the customer. If they´re happy with their remote, we´re happy to supply the post only."

Pricing, details, and availability for the new Revive:

• Pricing includes 19% VAT. Customers from outside the EU will be not be charged the VAT
• All posts shipped directly from www.bikeyoke.com before Eurobike will ship without the integrated mini-reset-lever. After Eurobike, the levers will be included without upcharge.
• As usual, shipping is free worldwide when ordering from www.bikeyoke.com

Revive 125 including remote: 359€ (available now)
Revive 160 including remote: 379€ (available now)
Revive 185 including remote: 419€ (deliveries will start by mid-August)

Revive 125 (post only): 319€ (available now)
Revive 160 (post only): 339€ (available now)
Revive 185 (post only): 379€ (deliveries will start by mid-August)

OE, distributor and dealer inquiries are welcome. Contact BikeYoke at sacki@crankingsolutions.com



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119 Comments

  • + 15
 I still wonder why no one has reviewed the YEP components dropper post... I'm on my 3rd (because of change in diameter/internal-external routing/travel), in 185mm and it's as good as the first pre-production one I had 2 years ago. And roughly the same price
  • - 17
flag zede (Jul 31, 2017 at 1:05) (Below Threshold)
 If you're on your third in two years, it means you can't comment on how reliable it is? It might be good, but is it still good after one year spent riding on it ?
  • + 20
 @zede: The first one has been sold to a friend and the 2nd one to another friend, and both are still running and as far as I know, they haven't missed a beat (and they would have told me Smile )

(but you're right, I should have been clearer about it)
  • + 1
 can you also reset it like this one? because the sag dropper post develop is their main problem in my opinion
  • + 4
 @zede: Never had to reset it in any way, no. I never encountered that drop from the video. When I was riding in Wales, the bike was held by the front wheel on the trailers, and it hasn't done anything as far as I know.
  • + 1
 @Ploutre: Good to know Smile I will consider it when the time comes to replace my reverb
  • + 2
 Edit: I bought the 1st one 3 years ago. It had been sent once to YEP for a service after something like 18 months of use, and sold it not too long after that
  • + 2
 @Ploutre: Agreed ! Got mine (185mm) since a few months, can't talk about reliability yet, but works perfectly, super smooth, fantastic lever !
  • + 1
 @zede: reading comprehension?
  • + 1
 @jrocksdh: please elaborate
  • + 12
 Waiting for 203mm.
  • + 2
 @chyu: not gonna happen (At least we´re not even thinking about it at this moment).
  • + 1
 @zede: In that ploutre's reasons for having 3 of the posts was in the brackets of his very first comment. None if the reasons was reliability related.
  • + 2
 @Kiwiplague: I was just asking him if he has any idea about the reliability of the post he was talking about.
  • + 6
 @chyu: get a 9point8 in 200mm
  • + 1
 @theteaser: Upvote 1000x
  • + 4
 @theteaser: Just ordered a 9point8 in the 150mm option as I'm no size queen.

This reset lever is interesting.
  • + 2
 @gonecoastal: thanks for that useless comment
  • - 1
 @gonecoastal: I don't really understand, "size queen". Optimally I'm 6', I need 27" from the bottom bracket center to the seat. My frame is 12", so in an ideal world I would need a 15" dropper post, there's no "size queen" about it, 8"(200mm) is only half of 15", I don't see where that comes in.
  • + 2
 @Kramz: you're math and/or measurements tell me you're riding an pixie bike. You've missed something in your calculation
  • + 2
 @Kramz: Do you really need a dropper post for your trial bike, Danny?
  • + 2
 @Kiwiplague: He was saying "How do you know it is reliable if you have never had one for that long?". He was not saying "How can they be reliable if you've already gone through 3 of them?" It was a totally valid question IMO. He never implied that they were broken/unreliable.
  • + 3
 @GeeHad: exactly what I meant. I admit I poorly worded my question, but it's fine, I eventually got the answer.
  • + 10
 Oh man I'm glad this reset lever has been made! And sold for not much more than €1 !! How many other bike part companies would be selling this for €20 or so!
The way I see it with dropper posts is you can try and make a product that has a well known weakness (ifp)and try your best to hide it/protect it making the post very complicated and hard to service. Or you can remove the weakness, accept you haven't got the benefits of it and work around it. Big benefit in simplicity and serviceability for little loss imo.

Big respect to bikeyoke, one of the few that won't rip you off. Thank you!
  • + 6
 Then again, why have any hydraulics in a seat post at all?
  • + 1
 Yep, just ordered a few for my two Revive posts. Bargain price, good to see some real world pricing for minor parts!
  • + 1
 @mrtoodles:
@mrtoodles: how do you find your revive posts, have heard they need resetting quite regularly, more than the average dropper, but I like the idea of no ifp, expect it means a lot less break away force needed to get it moving ?
  • + 2
 @mrfish: I´ll just post that link here, hope it´s OK:
forums.mtbr.com/components/bikeyoke-revive-1033134.html
  • + 1
 @mrfish:
I've also been testing one, and although I've only had it a short time, it is remarkable. Much much much lower breakaway force, incredibly light lever action, smooth response, virtually zero play, and has handled riding in blown out dusty conditions with no major dust getting into the seals. Thus far, I haven't had to "revive" my post even once yet.
  • + 2
 @mrfish: I've got them on both bikes now. Action is light and smoother than any other post I've tried (reverb, transfer and KS Lev). I've had to reset my first post maybe 3 times since I got it 7 weeks ago. I'd prefer to not need to touch it, but it's literally a thirty second fix (half of which is digging around to find the 4mm allen key). With the new reset lever, I'd wager it will be a flat 5 seconds to reset it.

The point is though, my Lev and Reverb posts both developed sag and required being sent away for costly rebuilds and prolonged downtime. If the Yoke can be reset by the average hack in 5 seconds I'll take that any day.

Reset system aside, it is good performer in weight, price, ergonomics and travel.
  • + 1
 @mrtoodles: Appreciate the feedback, but having to fuss around with your post every other week (even when it's new!) sounds like a shit design. I think our expectations are too low when we're looking at dropper posts.
  • + 2
 @mrtoodles: thanks for the info
  • + 1
 @scottzg: Its not really fussing around, its more like something to check as you are about to ride. Much like checking tyre pressure-letting a bit out/in, or turning your clutch on. It really is nothing more than that, and to avoid the extra worry of a service + gain a super smooth seatpost, its a no brainer.
  • + 1
 @Superfli: Totally understand. That said, i'm running gravity droppers, so i haven't checked, maintained, serviced (15 minutes with a multi-tool) either of my dropper posts in >3000 miles. I wouldn't expect that from everyone in the market, but weekly maintenance for a new product is pretty mediocre.

Tires that lose 10 psi in a week are pretty mediocre too, and i think i prefer a chainguide over a disposable clutch derailleur.
  • + 8
 Does anybody do a dropper where you can change the amount of drop you get by adding/removing spacers like you would in suspension forks ie starting with 125mm drop, then ad lr remove a spacer and you then have a 150mm drop...or is that just stupid
  • + 15
 9point8 Fall Line
  • + 5
 You can buy an 'enduro' collar to limit drop for reverbs, but it is just a posh clamp that goes on the shaft to stop you dropping it all the way.

IMO the issue is weight and overall length - why would you lug around extra weight for travel you don't use (I suppose you can always just not drop your post all the way of you've an infinitely adjustable one?) and some frames (particularly smaller ones) don't play nice with long droppers (they don't fit where there is a bend in the seat tube, or pivots, etc.).
  • + 0
 I havent heard of that but it seems like a really good idea to me
  • - 4
flag jrocksdh (Jul 31, 2017 at 2:44) (Below Threshold)
 @MmmBones: fail line...
  • + 4
 Not dumb at all. the extra weight will be minimal (less extra weight than people who run a Pike at 140mm or less, for instance.) The fall line does this, & I could swear there's another option on the market as well, but I can't remember who it is right now. The main advantage I see isn't being able to convert from 125 to 150 though... it's being able to run a 145mm if a 150 is just a bit too tall, instead of having to go all the way down to a 125, or being able to shorten the amount of drop if 150 puts the seat too low for your riding style(a lot of people like to have the saddle just above their knees, & 150mm of drop is too much for that sometimes.)
  • + 1
 @groghunter: one of the Crank Bros posts offered that...
  • + 1
 @jrocksdh:u mad bro?
  • + 0
 @MmmBones: mad..? Whatever is it is when ur post fails you/your day.
  • + 1
 @jrocksdh: yr Fall Line post failed u? how?
  • + 1
 @MmmBones: FWIW, my buddy's fall line twists at the head. 9point8's only fix for that is to send it back to the factory. No field fixable way to retighten it.
  • + 11
 so it's longer and slacker? got it
  • + 5
 Got the 160 version for a couple months now. Very happy with it. Only had to reset once so far when new after installation, but I don't shuttle or lift access with the bike. Post is very smooth. Weight on par with 150mm reverb. More fitting room than 150mm reverb thanks to the narrower collar. If I had to complain, I'd say the stock cable and housing are a bit meh, replaced with Shimano optislick right away while installing after the previous experience I had with the DeHy.

I have the triggy lever for reverb (DeHy) on my other bike since last year. Bought it after damaging the stock hydraulic button in a crash. Works a charm, and the ergonomics is great, especially if you are running SRAM brakes and shifters with MMX.
  • + 1
 What was your experience with the DeHy? IIRC, I used the stock housing, & haven't noticed any issues. Now I'm curious if I should replace it...
  • + 1
 @groghunter: The cable got rusty and gritty real fast and the lever action became notchy and needed more force to actuate. With the optislick cable the action was smoother, even compared vs stock when new. Plus the ferrules that come with the Shimano set (Y-60098021) are sealed so it should last longer.

Granted, there was nothing outright wrong with the stock supplied cable, housing and ferrules, they were just the usual cheapo nothing special ones and did not last very long.
  • + 1
 @Ferisko: Gotcha. I generally buy more expensive housing & add a little grease before I put the cable in, but Tucson is pretty mild on cables, so it's probably nothing I need to worry too much about. I did notice it's not exactly a high dollar cable, it does feel a little draggy in the stand, nothing I really notice on the trail though.
  • + 3
 Just installed my 160 today and holey moley this is a ridiculously sweet post. The actuation is so light, smooth and quick. It's like butter. I've come off a KS LEV 150mm that I've been running for 5-years with no problem and that was really nice but the construction here is next level. The machining on the lower is Thomson-esque, all components are simple and beautifully refined. It caps off my new build perfectly. Can't wait to give it a rip. The user servicing was a huge plus here. Also running DVO suspension for the same reason. Less time in a shop and more time running as it should. Hats off so far on a quality product.
  • + 3
 Had my Revive 160 for a few months now, and so far I'm really happy with it - easy to setup and so much smoother than my old Reverb (which incidentally was fine reliability wise). Long term reliability of the Revive is still up in the air, but I'm pretty confident it will be good. Manufacturing quality is spot on, and Sacki is great to deal with.
  • + 2
 Looks great and very intelligent system. Simple ideas are usually the best but hardest to achieve. If I didn't run a Transfer post, this would be the one...however I do run the triggy lever and that is awesome, in comparison to any of the stock Fox ones which are all rubbish!?
  • + 1
 I think I'm a rarity in not wanting an infinite adjust post with this much travel. I have a 170mm Reverb, it's just too mich. Even all day at bike parks I don't drop it full because it's uselessly low. Can't pedal, can't use seat for control. Also when I want a middle position for tech trail or even to drop it a bit for a dh section, I have to keep adjusting up a bit down a bit for ages before it feels good. I want 3 positions, the infinite thing is useless, everyone basically slams it, has it full height or some place in the middle.
  • + 10
 If you have to adjust it that much to get it to feel right in the middle position, what do you think the odds are that a pre-set, 3 position post will feel just right for you in the middle position?
  • + 2
 Can't you get an enduro collar to limit the drop to your preferred height? Surely for a few pounds that would solve your issue?

Better to have too much drop and the option than too little IMO as at least you have the choice.
  • + 2
 @WaterBear: The point is I can't get it to a standard position instantly. If It had a fixed middle position I set it would go straight to it. The infinite is too high then too low. Of course a fixed middle position solves this!
  • + 2
 @slimboyjim: The full drop position isn't much of a problem I set it for the day and done. It won't help with the middle position and frankly, ideal buying a limiterfor you long post is kinda pointless...

Major problem woth long drops is they have so much flex they fail more. My reverb lasted about 2 months before the typical suspension post problem.
  • + 1
 @clarky78: my reverb failed regardless 125 and 150..Got tired of dealing with it.. Moved on..
  • + 1
 @sacki when opening the reset valve, wouldn't the pressure inside the inner tube and the pressure in the outer tube equalize? Then the oil volume in both tubes would level and you would mostly drain the oil out of the inner tube creating the opposite effect? I can't understand how the inner tube oil is supposed to raise instead of fall when the valve is opened.
  • + 1
 The pressure will indeed equalize, but the bottom valve is closed. So nothing will happen. Oil can only flow from the top (as you push down on the saddle), not from the bottom.

Fo your scenario to happen, you would have to release both the Revive valve (top) and press the lever (bottom valve); then oil would level in both chamber = lots of sag.
  • + 1
 I don´t really understand your question.
You are right, when you say, that basically nothing happens, when you JUST OPEN the reset valve. You need to depress the saddle, too, to reset the post. Is that the part, you were missing?
  • + 1
 I have the 125mm model, never had any problems with it. Have been out riding my bike in -10°c - +30°c, always as good as new after a reset (which you don't have to do very often).
  • + 2
 What options out there for 185+ drop, and not too expensive?
Vecnum and 9point8 come to mind, but the second is 550€ in France...
  • + 3
 Is it possible to retrofit the new MicroValve membrane to the current version of the Revive?
  • + 4
 Unfortunately not. But the integrated reset-lever is much more of a benefit, since you wonßt require the 4mm Allen key anymore. Just a quick move you with you hand on the saddle and pull the Trigger. That´s it. Takes no 5 seconds. We´ll have the reset lever in the webshop in a few days, and we can ship it after Eurobike show, beginning of September.
  • + 5
 Okay, I just added the "mini-lever" in the webshop, since a lot of people already asked.
www.bikeyoke.de/en/quick-reset-lever.html
The price is a special price for all upgrader and will be valid until end of August.
After that the price will be 5€.
Deliveries will start by beginning of September.
  • + 1
 @Sacki: Thanks! Very nice looking upgrade.
  • + 2
 @Sacki: awesome customer service.
  • + 1
 Please show us the integrated reset-lever. That's the important thing here and the only thing that was holding customers back from chosing Bike Yoke over other dropper posts.
  • + 4
 You can see it in the first video. ;-)
It´s a small black metal lever, that you can leave attached to the post, secured by an o-ring.
  • - 8
flag th0m (Jul 31, 2017 at 1:00) (Below Threshold)
 Unfortunately, this is a giant pain in the ass. You have to use the reset lever every time the bike is upside-down or even vertical on its back wheel. Which in Switzerland means after every bus ride, gondola ride, chairlift ride, train ride, every time you roll the bike on the back wheel etc.
  • + 6
 @th0m: Not true, running the 125mm drop version on my bike. The bike is transported upside down in my car, no issues.
  • + 2
 @Benlow: Any tricks to do accomplish this? Do you have it extended or compressed in the car?
It is really getting on my nerves, and in a review I read they had the same issue.
  • + 1
 @Benlow: how often do you have to reset it?
  • + 2
 There's a trick here, the post needs resetting only if it's been upside down when the post is down. Extend the post before turning the bike over and it's not a problem! It's a pain though when using a shuttle trailer, when you can't transport it with the saddle up. But both the reset lever and microvalve should solve that problem!
  • + 1
 @hirvi: I'm lazy and the bike fits easier in the car with the post down, so thats how it goes in.
@zede: I've had it for two months, reset it twice riding 3-4 times a week.
  • + 1
 @hirvi: Thanks hirvi, that was the "trick" I was looking for, leaving the post up.
I always lower it to save space and to prevent the stanchion from being scratched in public transport like your shuttle trailer example.
  • + 1
 Mine doesn't have the integrated reset lever, it just uses an allen key. But it's super easy to do. Takes maybe 30 seconds. Stick key in, turn, drop post, remove key, done. Works the first time, every time...so far. Post was a pre-order from when they were first released, I'm the second owner. First owner is a friend and regular ride buddy (we rode 2 days ago, in fact).
  • + 8
 What? Using an allen key for something you have to do on average once or twice per year? THIS was preventing you from buying the post? That's like saying you won't buy brakes because you need an allen key to mount and adjust them on your bars. I'm seriously OK using a key for the reset feature. It's not like the post needs it for everyday use. Plus if you're not carrying a multitool with you out on the trail, there are far more things that can go wrong besides having to reset your dropper post that you should be carrying tools for.
  • + 1
 @BaeckerX1: The problem is that (at least with the previous version of the post, and depending on how often you have to put your bike upside-down for whatever reason) you would have to do this 2 - 10 times a day.
Not too much of an issue, but then some people would prefer another post that they just service once a year.
  • + 1
 @th0m: but if you ride park, you don't need to put the saddle up at each lap anyways, so you just reset it once at the end of the day, right ?
Are you sure your seat post has no defect ?
  • + 2
 @zede: Not bike park. It may be a bit of a Swiss specialty, but you could do the same in Austria: Ride around the mountains with your Enduro bike taking trains, little gondolas, buses, funicular railways etc. but also pedaling up a couple of hundred meters. Most of these transports require you to hang up the bike and the post always draws air. And then the Bikeyoke post really gets on your nerves especially if you have friends with Rockshox Reverbs who don't always have to fumble with their damn seatposts.
However, the new version described in this article describes has an additional "membrane" that tries to tackle this problem.
  • + 1
 @th0m: I feel you. But when riding parks with chairlifts that require you to hang your bike on a hook off your saddle, you can laugh at your friends struggling with their Reverbs that can't be lifted by the saddle in down position. Wink And even though it's irritating when you have to reset the post regularly after random transports, you can be prepared having a multitool somewhere handy and it takes less time than putting a helmet on. If that's the only maintenance the post (that's the smoothest you'll ever own) will ever need, i'm very happy about it!
  • + 3
 2 weeks after I get a 160mm post :-/
  • + 1
 yeah i know! i just did the same thing, if i had of known.... Frown
  • + 1
 Over 1/2 meter long! The available frames will be the limiting factor for the bottom of the post.
  • + 2
 All product releases should be like the first video. Thank you
  • + 2
 I actually need someone in between 125 and 150 lol
  • + 2
 Moveloc 140, you are welcome.
  • + 1
 @Muckal: cheers, the main problem is the length of the post that goes into the seat tube is restricted due to the rocker.
  • + 1
 The revive mechanism is brilliant!
  • + 1
 is there a post that adjust the seat angle as the post drops or rises?
  • + 1
 @Sacki - Can you make it in 34.9 so I can get one for my Wreckoning?
  • + 3
 Actually we could, and we would like to do, but the 34.9 seattubes are not very widely distributed over brands. Some Konas have, some Specializeds, EVIL and Liteville. I don´t really know about any other brands. Maybe you can help me?
However, if we´d make a 34.9 post, then we´d probably go fancy and implement some other features too (oh, we have lots of ideas), which are hard (impossible or not reliable) to achieve in smaller tubes.
So it´d not just be a bigger diameter lower tube, but overall bigger. But currently the 34.9 post are on hold. :-(
  • + 1
 @Sacki: I know a lot of Scotts run 34.9 and Evil on the Wrekoning, I think there are enough Wrek owners out there who would like to run something other than the Reverb or KS Lev (those are the only options on the market).
  • + 1
 @mtb-elvis: Voids the warranty on the Wreckoning.
  • - 2
 Why not making it reliable instead? A post which doesn't need resets or bleeding - that's the world where I want to live
  • + 20
 Owning a revive, a reset takes 5 seconds maybe once a month riding 3-4 times a week. Less time than pumping up tyres or checking over drivetrain, suspension etc Wink If that level of maintenance is a concern, you're in the wrong sport.
  • + 4
 @Benlow: its not about time spent on maintenance - its about fact, that manufacturers accept error as a norm. Lets assume that pumping air 3 times a day and bleeding brakes after every run is a norm also
  • + 2
 @IVee: Spot on. In all the time I've owned KS posts I've never once had to bleed them. It's crazy that something that is a design flaw is being marketed as a design feature.
  • + 4
 @bender-oz: it's not a flaw. unless you design a seal for the IFP that seals 100 % for eternity, your (air spring) post will develop this problem. and that's not possible, so instead of bleeding your post and changing the seals just push it down for 5 sec and you're good to go
  • + 10
 @bender-oz:
Yeah, maybe you did not have a problem. We know the percentage of KS posts failing and it is well known, that Reverbs still have the same issue (even the B1 version).
Of course there are posts, that keep working fine for a long time, no doubt. However, a lot of them don´t. And it is a hassle to have to send them in for service, even if it is covered by warranty.
Bleeding the REVIVE takes not even five seconds, and how often you have to do it depends on how you treat the post.
  • + 5
 @IVee: I'll just say this: There is no maintenance free dropper post. They all need a bleed eventually, and it will probably take much longer than 30 minutes to do. If you reset your Revive once a month, and it takes 1 minute to do, a 30 minute procedure on another post is equivalent to 2 and a half years of 1 minute resets on a Revive.

Your request for a literally maintenance free post is unrealistic. There is no such thing. Everything in the world requires maintenance until entropy takes it away for good.
  • - 2
 Seriously, have been running DOSS and Transfer post since day one, never ever had an issue..
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