Review: The 2019 BMC Fourstroke 01 One is a Purebred XC Race Rocket

Jun 3, 2019
by David Arthur  




Few things stay the same for long in the mountain bike world, and in late 2018 Swiss brand BMC radically redesigned its top-level XC race bike, the Fourstroke 01. It received a host of changes aimed at providing the best possible tool for those athletes paid to put it all on the line for the victory, and it really points to where XC bikes are heading at the moment with more capable geometry.

The new Fourstroke 01 is laden with all sorts of interesting things. There is an integrated dropper post, a massively oversized downtube with two bottle cage mounts, a super clean stem design, and internal routing with an integrated fork stopper that's all wrapped up with 29” wheels, 100mm suspension travel and new-school geometry that might not look out of place on a trail bike.
BMC Fourstroke 01 ONE Details
Intended use: XC race / Marathon
Travel: 100mm
Wheel size: 29"
Frame construction: Carbon fiber
Head angle: 67.5-degrees
Sizes: S, M, L (tested), XL
Seatpost: 80mm Race Application Dropper Seatpost (RAD)
Weight: 22.9lb / 10.3kg size large w/o pedals
Price: $6,500 to $11,000 USD
More info: BMC Bikes

You have a choice of three models priced from $6,500 to $11,000 USD for the range-topping model on test here that's decked out with a plethora of race-ready, gram-saving components like a Fox 32 Step Cast fork, SRAM X01 Eagle groupset, Level Ultimate brakes, and DT Swiss XRC 1200 Carbon wheels. There's also a frameset option if you want to keep your sponsors happy and deck it out with the right equipment.


bigquotesWho doesn’t like riding fast? The Fourstroke offers exceptional speed in every situation backed up with the soothing stability and control from geometry that is a world away from old fashioned XC bikes, plus the integrated dropper is a real highlight and a benefit on rowdy terrain when you’re riding on the limit. David Arthur

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BMC Fourstroke


Construction and Features

Clean, sharp, and fast. Those are the words that spring to my mind when looking at the Fourstroke. It’s all huge oversized tubes with sharp creases and an air of purposefulness. I like it a lot. It has been totally redesigned, unrecognizable from the previous bike, and the result is that it has all the hallmarks of an absolute speed machine with looks that I have to agree are very satisfying. Enough about the looks, the Fourstroke has 29” wheels (naturally; find me an XC race bike that doesn’t) with 100mm of suspension travel front and rear and an integrated dropper post that provides 80mm of saddle height adjustment.

Weight will always be a top priority with a bike like this, and BMC has really counted every gram. The frame weighs a claimed 2,575g. To achieve this low weight it has used fewer parts, with the added bonus of also improving durability (fewer parts to go wrong) and has refined the suspension to shed 51g, used carbon fibre for the upper linkage saving another 40g, and developed superlight thru-axles in its Impec Lab to shed another 9g compared to the old bike.

BMC Fourstroke
The Fourstroke is crammed with neat details.
BMC Fourstroke
Carbon linkage controlling the 100mm travel.


More on the rad RAD dropper post, aka the Race Application Dropper to give it its full name. The overall weight is 345g, which the company claims is 100g lighter than any other rivals (a KS Lev Carbon is 419g with 65mm of travel). It’s cleanly integrated into the seat tube and provides 80mm of drop with two-position adjustment via a handlebar lever. The ovalized shape of the post is intended to both reduce weight and improve its resistance to unwanted flex. Saddle height can be adjusted via a small bolt near the bottom bracket, and you’re looking at 90mm of height adjustment so no cutting of the post should be required.

There are some smart details from the cleanly routed internal cable routing that is guided inside the front triangle, lower link and swingwarm for easier cable replacements, to a choice of two bottle cage mounts in the main frame and a mud protector cover over the link to protect the bearings from mud and water. Protecting the carbon chainstays is a small alloy plate, and there’s a chain guide for extra reassurance against dropped chains.

Crashes can and do happen at the top level, and because BMC wanted a straight down tube for maximum stiffness, it has integrated a fork stopper into the lower bearing race and downtube to prevent the fork crown from smashing into the frame. It does the same job as Trek’s Knock Block but is arguably a neater solution to the same problem. Other key details include a PF92 bottom bracket, 12x148mm thru-axle, and a 1x focused frame design.


BMC Fourstroke
Suspension attitude adjustment.
BMC Fourstroke
80mm of drop from the RAD dropper post.



Geometry & Sizing



Progressive is the keyword here. It won’t have escaped you that XC bikes have been evolving in recent years, driven by increasingly challenging courses (for the most part) and riders pushing their equipment to the limits. Bike brands have responded to the point where some of the latest machines are hugely impressive, not only between the tape but when you venture deeper into the backcountry.

As a result, the Fourstroke has the sort of numbers that might not look out of place on a mid-travel trail bike. The size large tested here has a 67.5-degree head angle, 75.6-degree seat angle, 465mm reach, and 1,180mm wheelbase with a 44mm offset fork.

The company’s BWC (Big Wheel Concept) has been designed to make the most of the 29'' wheels to provide “more control, more comfort, more confidence, and a whole lot more speed” to quote BMC. It’s about optimizing everything from the chainstay length (429mm across the size range) to the short stem lengths, slacker head angle and long top tube.

There are just four sizes to choose from, S through to XL, with 423 and 485mm reach respectively and the same head, seat tube angles and chainstay length. There’s the same 720mm handlebar on each size but stem length varies, from 50mm on the small to 60mm on the medium and large, and 70mm on the XL.


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Suspension Design

The Fourstroke uses what the company calls APS (Advanced Pivot System) to deliver 100mm of rear wheel travel. It comprises two short links, and BMC has tuned it to provide lots of small bump sensitivity, be active under braking, and to have little pedal kickback. The Fox shock, metric spacing with a trunnion mount, can be controlled via a remote handlebar lever, with a choice of open, platform and locked.

To help set up the suspension sag, there’s a small indicator on the top of the seat stay near the linkage. Sit on the bike, see where the arrows point, and you’re good to go.

BMC Fourstroke
The APS suspension using two short linkages




Specifications

Specifications
Release Date 2019
Price $11000
Travel 100mm
Rear Shock Fox Float DPS, Factory, Evol, Kashima, Remote (100mm)
Fork Fox Float 32 SC, Factory, FIT4, Kashima, Remote (100mm), 15x110mm thru-axle
Cassette SRAM XG 1295 10-50T
Crankarms SRAM XX1 Eagle 34T
Bottom Bracket SRAM XX1 Eagle
Rear Derailleur SRAM XX1 Eagle
Chain SRAM XX1 Eagle
Shifter Pods SRAM XX1 Eagle
Handlebar BMC MFB 01 Carbon, 750mm
Stem BMC MSM 01
Grips BMC
Brakes SRAM Level Ultimate 160mm
Wheelset DT Swiss XRC 1200 Carbon 25
Seat Fizik Antares R5 K:ium
Seatpost RAD dropper

BMC Fourstroke










Test Bike Setup

After some experimentation, riding repeated loops and tweaking the settings, I settled on 150psi to produce 12mm of sag, equating to just under 25% sag, with rebound eight clicks from open. The aforementioned sag meter helps a little to get you in the right ballpark. Setting the Fox 32 up was even easier, with the recommended settings giving a good feel; 71psi for my bodyweight.

All the contact points felt dialed from the start; the handlebar width and stem length felt perfect for the nature of this bike and I didn’t want for a wider 'bar. I did change the grips to a pair of DMR Deathgrip (in matching orange) as I found them a little more comfortable. I also tried the bike with a bunch of different XC race tires for some upcoming reviews but spent enough time on the Vittoria’s to get a really good feel for them in all sorts of conditions.

Riding was mostly done on my local trails, so a mix of natural singletrack with lots of roots and steep climbs to get a measure of the Fourstroke, with a few visits to rockier locations and riding was conducted in the full range of weather conditions, from the mud and rain of winter to dry, warm and dusty springtime.
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David Arthur // Technical Editor
Age: 37
Location: Gloucestershire, UK
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @davidjarthur


BMC Fourstroke


Climbing

Make no mistake, if there’s a hill climbing competition in your local woods you’re going to be right in the mix on this Fourstoke. Holy smokes, this bike ascends quickly! That’s to be expected given how damn light it is, but if you do enjoy the climbs as much as the descents (yes it is possible to enjoy both), then a lightweight XC race bike is hard to beat.

There’s more to its climbing and general XC trail talents than just weighing bugger all on the scales. The suspension is on your side, too, with good small bump sensitivity to find traction on tricky climbs and let you keep on pedaling across the top of rutted dirt paths when hardtail pals are being bounced about. It’s a very efficient design, and it noticeably leans towards being quite progressive. That ensures there’s very little pedal bob, even when thrashing the pedals, and even if you leave it in open mode all of the time which you can do for regular trail riding, avoiding the need for constant lever fiddling.

For general riding, not racing, I preferred the open setting as you get all the benefit all of the time with no downsides. The handlebar remote lever does ensure it’s very to firm up the shock on-the-fly. But does it make any difference when climbing? To find out I did a couple of timed runs on different tracks and on the smoother ones, there was nothing in it. On rough tracks, I was quicker with the shock open, which was really no surprise as the rear wheel is better able to track the ground. And because it’s very progressive, there’s enough control that you don’t feel like you’re wallowing into the stroke.

For racers, the remote lever is going to be useful for those smoother trails where it just limits the suspension movement when you're really cranking on the gas, and it’s easy enough to change that you’re at no disadvantage. The difference between the two modes isn’t the night and day difference that some open and platform modes can sometimes be - it's very subtle.

The lever also operates the Fox 32 Step-Cast fork at the same time, but I got rebellious and disconnected it so I could leave it in the open model permanently. I never used the full lockout mode other than to check it worked - I can see it being useful if you have to ride pavement or maybe for the start of an XC race, which is usually a drag race to the first corner.

The geometry works in your favor too. While the long and slack approach obviously benefits you on the descents as we’ll discuss later, it’s an advantage on climbs, too. The position is very comfortable on long rides and climbs because you don’t feel cramped at all; you’ve got room to breathe, it’s well balanced, and the seat angle puts you in a good place over the bottom bracket, The handlebar is comfortably shaped, giving a very commanding feel over the bike and when you're pulling hard on them when climbing steep gradients.

You won't be surprised to learn that the massive down tube ensures the Fourstroke is extremely stiff when going flat out. No watts are wasted when you’re mashing the pedals up a climb or sprinting to get into a tasty bit of singletrack descent ahead of your rivals/mates/dog.


BMC Fourstroke


Descending

True, old-fashioned XC race bikes were terrifying on the descents, especially with a big side order of roots and rocks, but that's not the case anymore with bikes like the Fourstroke. It’s the most fun I’ve had on a bike with this little travel in probably ever! I can’t recall a bike that combines the stunning speed to let you boss the climbs so easily, yet be so incredibly capable on the descents no matter how gnarly the roots and rocks or the gradient might get.

The Fourstroke is a long way from the nervous and skittish descending abilities of classic XC race bikes which were fast going up and rubbish going down. Despite its low weight and skinny forks and tires, the BMC never felt nervous or fragile when really hammering it down a trail. Yes, you’re always aware of the fact you’re on a very lightweight bike with all the skinny weight saving accouterments, but the Fourstroke surprises and impresses with how well it masks that and just lets you actually enjoy the descents and have fun.

The head angle, wheelbase, and low bottom bracket height contribute to how planted the bike feels in corners. Sink the bike fast and hard into a bermed corner and once the tires have done their job of scrabbling for grip, the Fourstroke is so assured and certain that you’re left in no doubt that maybe you could carry a bit more speed into this turn on the next lap. There’s adequate nimbleness for tucking the BMC around very tight corners though, it's not lazy at all, and it’s easy to pop the front wheel for getting over bigger obstacles, stepped roots, and drainage channels. Changes of direction happen almost telepathically. It flows from corner to corner, the stiffness of the front keeping everything tracking in the same direction and resisting twanging twisting forces when you load it up into corners.

I found the Fourstroke manageable on every trail I rode it. You do have to choose your lines more carefully, but that’s true of most bikes but more critically with this small amount of suspension. If you want to be able to just plow headfirst into chundery terrain and expect the bike to sort out the mess for you, well, this probably isn’t the bike for you. Just go watch any video of Nino Schurter and watch the way he’s floating over the trail choosing the fastest and smoothest line where possible.


BMC Fourstroke


We're all sold on dropper posts, right? Well, except XC purists who argue against the weight and the fact they feel they don't need them, but in the real world, they're bloody useful. The RAD integrated dropper post is a revelation. It's super easy to operate with a light action and the 80mm drop is plenty adequate to give you a bit more room to throw shapes down descents and carve the corners with higher speeds. It transforms the Fourstroke from a pure XC race bike into a rad little trail bike for blitzing local trails. I’ve ridden this bike through a British winter and it’s been abused a ton, but yet it’s still working perfectly with no sealing issues.

The suspension travel isn’t much on paper and be in no doubt that on chunkier trails or dropping off drops, you’re reminded that 100mm travel isn’t a lot - you can't just send it into a rocky trail and expect the suspension to look after you. You've got to dial up the skill level, choose the right line, and work with the bike to get through rough sections fast. The available suspension is well controlled, though, with a high progression that means it ramps up very well to handle any big impacts. As for the Fox 32 fork, I was surprised with how relatively stiff and controlled this fork felt in even the rowdier trails, with any deflection very hard to detect. That said, I swapped to the new stiffer 32 during the review, which beefed up front-end steering and braking control a touch - review on that coming soon.








How does it compare?

One of the best comparisons and a bike I’ve ridden is the Intense Sniper XC Elite, which matches the BMC with an all-carbon frame and 100mm of suspension, and both bikes have similar geometry numbers. The BMC is more impressive from a design and innovation standpoint, and also feels stiffer and more direct in its handling and power transfer.

A bike I’ve not ridden but which can be added to the consideration list is the Santa Cruz Blur that has also been redesigned with modern geometry, 100mm travel, and a lightweight all-carbon fibre frame. The Blur is quite a bit steeper and a little shorter than the BMC, which would likely limit is ability on technical descents, and a dropper post is an after-sales upgrade not integrated into the frame design.


BMC Fourstroke
BMC Fourstroke


Technical Report

SRAM XX1 Eagle Groupset: Simply flawless. The XX1 Eagle groupset was consistently reliable and has been hammered through the worst British winter conditions and just keeps on working sweetly. There’s all the range needed for taming steep tracks and hooning down fast descents, and the 34t chainring choice was never in doubt thanks to the wide-range cassette bringing the 50t sprocket into use in the steepest grinds.

Fox Suspension: Matching Fox suspension with Kashima coating gives the BMC a very premium feel and the damping quality is first class. The 32 SC fork impressed with a relatively high level of stiffness and little detectable deflection when pushed hard, and the Kabolt thru-axles save weight and look clean, though you’ll need to carry a multitool to remove them.

DT Swiss XRC 1200 Carbon wheels: Lightweight, just 1,411g thanks to an all-carbon rim with a 22.5mm internal width, and laced to DT 240s hubs with 28 straight pull spokes, the wheels felt really good. Obviously, the low weight helped get the bike up to speed but there’s just a hint of flex that prevents the wheels from feeling overly stiff and jarring in a way some carbon wheels can be. Hugely reliable hubs, too, and easy tubeless with different brands of tires.

RAD dropper: I’ve been really impressed with this dropper post. Its light action makes it easy to drop the saddle and the 80mm drop is adequate, more than enough for providing a bit more space for throwing shapes on the descents. Initial concerns about the reliability ebbed away over the months of testing, and now a good six months of riding through all sorts of crappy weather, the post is still working smoothly with no wag in the saddle. It can be easily serviced by lifting the dust wiper, wiping away any muck and adding a bit of fresh grease. This is something BMC recommends you do every 25 hours of riding. A more thorough seatpost cleaning should be conducted after 50 hours, which involves removing the post from the frame to grease the shaft.

Vittoria Barzo TR tyres: The Vittoria tires sure look smart with the tan sidewalls, and out the trail they provided low rolling resistance from the low profile tread pattern and good levels of grip in the dry. In the wet, I found the tires less willing to grip to damp roots and shiny rocks, and it really knocked my trust in them so I experimented with some other XC race tires during the test period.


Pros

+ Very fast and lightweight
+ Capable geometry
+ Efficient suspension
Cons

- High price tag
- Integration won’t suit everyone


Is this the bike for you?

If you’re an XC or marathon racer and seeking one of the fastest, most modern and well designed full-suspension bikes, there are few that reach such impressive heights as the new BMC Fourstroke. Away from XC racing, it’s a very capable and comfortable bike for general trail riding if your preference is for carrying speed everywhere with a lightweight package. It’s been designed to meet the expanding technicality of modern XC world cup courses but it’s right at home as a fast short travel trail bike.




Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIt’s damn fast and very lightweight, highly capable in situations where traditional XC race bikes would feel out of their element, it and sports a modern design with sleek integration at its core. It's well suited to XC racing, but it can also serve as an extra-fast trail ripper.  David Arthur








93 Comments

  • + 56
 Fourstroke was a race-bike, 01 ONE was one too. Fourstoke won one race, and 01 ONE won one too.
  • + 7
 Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
  • + 31
 2.5kg doesn't seem particularly light for an XC FS frame. Does this include the dropper post? Also, please oh please Mr Reviewer, when you ride an XC bike, please don't tell us what you think about lockouts or that you disabled yours; I race XC/XCO weekly and every racer I speak to who has a lockout uses it. I suppose at least 'fit wider tires' wasn't mentioned so I should be grateful.
  • + 8
 That's with integrated dropper. Not super light, but still pretty damn light.
  • - 5
flag krattAtak (Jun 3, 2019 at 7:11) (Below Threshold)
 @clink83: I mean a couple pounds won’t affect you that much anyway, when I put a fork and a dropped on my xc bike I don’t feel the extra weight was that noticeable or slowed me down. Granted I don’t race a ton anymore and ride a trail bike 90% of the time now, but still think that in the real world you won’t be slower with that little of a weight penalty.
  • - 1
 @krattAtak: it's about a 20000gr frame plus a dropper, but it's also a multilink suspension. Imo a fs XC bike shines on the climbs, so having a slightly heavier frame with a better suspension will result in faster times.
  • + 1
 Yeah it's not super light. The Unno Horn is 1640g sans dropper so add 350g for the Bike Yoke Devine and it's still 500g lighter. Try removing 500g with components and the Unno looks like a great deal. That said I'd have still bought a Fourstroke if it wasn't for the racist routing. Bizarre that the reviewer didn't mention that being English.
  • + 2
 That is what I was thinking as well. Even if you account for the dropper which is 345g (which is really light) the frame still weighs 2,230g (4.91lbs). For comparison, the Scott Spark frame weighs 1779g (3.92lbs). That is a pound difference.
  • + 9
 Considering nino was racing 2.4 tires on 30mm rims in Nove Mesto I don’t think wide tires is something that we racers should be afraid to try.
  • + 4
 It could be with shock as well. But 23+pedals with that spec is solidly average. I think where it goes wrong is the heavy saddle, bars, and wheels. I mean 1411g is ok but it's not hard to get 1100g out of i22.5 rims and 28 spokes.
  • + 0
 @marktuttl3: I get smoked each week by a fast guy on plus size tires on our very dry bumpy course so I'd definitely agree!
  • + 8
 @krattAtak: You are of course absolutely right, but when I'm hyperventilating up a climb and a skinny man on a Specialized S-Works Epic comes shooting past whistling Dixie, I'm damn sure its because I didn't swap out my steel rotor bolts for titanium ones because its all about the bike!!! Smile
  • + 5
 @mcvittees: It's not the bolts. Wrong colour man! Try with red. Everyone knows that red bikes are fastest!
Also, some hot chili peppers in your chamois can do wonders for the desire to finish the race as soon as possible
  • + 0
 @marktuttl3: wide doesn't always mean heavySmile
  • + 0
 @tacklingdummy: the BMC should pedal a lot better though, weigh isn't everything.
  • + 2
 No true mountain biker would ever be caught dead using a lockout! We must constantly remind our readers how superior we are by dismissing their usefulness! Only weak, insufferable, fabulous, spandex-clad roadies use lockouts.
  • + 1
 @litany: Schurter races uses his lockout many times during a race. I guess Schurter is not a true mountain biker. Lol.
  • + 1
 The 2012 FS01 frame was 2,040g. BMC is going backwards.
  • + 22
 “constant lever fiddling..” ??? Its a lever. You push it
  • + 14
 Tan sidewalls??? Thought I'd already lived through those dark day...give me blackwalls or give me death!!
  • - 2
 Thankfully [for you], tanwall tires are few and far between these days.
  • + 49
 Give me tan any day! They look sick
  • + 5
 @rrsport: for the first ride , as soon as they get used and get crud on them they start to look tatty. we gave up on them in 1989. some things should be left in the past. ;-)
  • - 3
 @biglev: It's called discipline....clean your bike.
  • + 3
 @kymtb0420: fair call but try it in the uk int he wet weather give it 5 rides and no matter what you clean it with they will look rubbish!!
  • + 0
 @biglev: Yeah....good point. I've not yet experienced a UK climate. Closest I got was Portland, Oregon for a week...and yeah it rained nearly everyday. It's just I'm American, and White walls/Tan walls are special to me. Look at my bikes and I used to drive a 83 cutlass lowrider--haha. I almost bought tanwalls for my fat bike.
  • + 2
 @kymtb0420: just checked out oldsmobile low rider..... i concede white walls are mandatory on all things cool.
  • + 8
 @biglev: They used to look tatty in 1989 because we all ran rim brakes. Surely they stay looking fresh for much longer these days? Black all-the-things just makes stuff look heavy/cheap to me (but I'm from an era when black = low end, shiny = high end).
  • + 0
 @azureblue: probably true. i could join this millennium and try them. !!
  • + 5
 @kymtb0420:

Why bother to clean something that's meant to be used nearly exclusively off-road? I can see keeping important mechanical areas clean, but that's it.
  • + 1
 @Explodo: so you're the guy who brings the muddy bike into the shops so I can get dirty. Wink Seriously though....cleaning my bikes-truck-car or whatever gives me a sense of pride and they seem to run better after a wash....
  • + 11
 For the sake of all things downcountry, is the dropper upgradeable to longer travel? This thing makes me wish I was a dentist!
  • + 9
 It's a 100mm race bike, how much drop do you really need?
  • + 2
 no it is not.
  • + 2
 Sure, you can get as much travel as you want as long as it's oval.
  • + 11
 11Grand you still don't get an XX1 cassette! GTFOH
  • + 10
 Just looked at the specs of the $6500 model. GX drivetrain and SLX brakes? For $6500? Really?
  • + 7
 Just think of it as poser tax.
  • + 1
 GX eagle seems pretty standard for all 2019 carbon bikes between $5500 and $7500 price points. In 2016 I got 11 spd X01 at that price point but only GX when I replaced the bike this year.
  • + 5
 Yep! If u live in Swiss land where the basic salary is 2500/3000 euro plus free chocolates every month the price could seem normal. But that little ‘made in China’ sticker in the frame will always remind you the money you spent just ain’t right! All carbon products are waaayyy overpriced
  • + 9
 $11000!!! Lol You must have to have a carbon fibre head to pay that much for a mountain bike!
  • + 5
 "It’s about optimizing everything from the chainstay length (429mm across the size range) to the short stem lengths, slacker head angle and long top tube."

They didn't optimize _everything_: the chainstay doesn't change at all! How can it possibly be "optimized" for each size when top tube (and reach) and stem lengths change per size, but the chainstays don't?
  • + 6
 I think most people are on board with keeping the CS length as short as possible regardless of the size of the bike.
  • + 4
 my 2014 bmc trailfox is a bike ahead of its time. With an angleset modifying the HTA to 65 degrees, its as good as any modern long travel 29er. Come on BMC, release a new version of it already! (and maybe not have it cost $11,000)
  • + 2
 I agree that's a rad bike, though I ended up with the Speedfox. Rumor is they are releasing a new Trailfox this year.
  • + 7
 Something really pleasing about the clean lines and simple design of BMCs I really like. This bike looks so nice.
  • + 5
 Wow, they should patent this suspension, a non-host virtual with little kicback, active under braking and high antisquat! Just a holly grail of FS design.
  • - 10
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 3, 2019 at 1:55) (Below Threshold)
 All for nothing considernig what kind of shock sits there...
  • + 8
 Compare that to the Pivot Mach 4SL with DW-link. What's actually different? As usual, I'm not a suspension engineer but they look almost the same.
  • + 1
 @yupstate: I also think it's a DW link design. Is there something Im not seeing?
  • + 5
 It's basically the same as a dw link, I'm pretty sure that BMC got around paying licensing fees for it by some loophole involving swiss patent laws. I'll try to find the article on it.
  • + 4
 The cush video of the rear suspension is so satisfying to watch, but it doesn't really tell you anything about the suspension. lol.
  • + 4
 I understand that there is the platform remote in play, but is it not stupid to mount a trunnion shock with the bearings on the eyelet that hardly moves?
  • + 3
 “The overall weight is 345g, which the company claims is 100g lighter than any other rivals”. My bike yoke divine SL weighted 315g with 80mm drop.
  • + 1
 Is that with the lever weight included?
  • + 3
 @tacklingdummy: no. It was post only. So much variable in cable length, and trigger options; weight with lever isn’t consistent. It was also cut to fit my size, which shaved about 30g from the post.
  • + 3
 @marktuttl3: Divine with cabel and remote is 500 gram, without cabel and remote 400 gram.
r2-bike.com/BIKEYOKE-Seatpost-DIVINE-SL-80-mm
  • + 0
 Interesting review to compare to other reviews of the same bike. The BIKE Bible was not as impressed with the rear suspension or the descending capabilities compared with something like the SB100. They seemed to think it was a race bike, through and through, not really very impressive as a short travel trail-bike option.
  • + 1
 Funny I thought they liked it!
  • + 8
 It is a race bike...
  • + 5
 @clink83: That's fine. The interesting part is that one review said its a race bike and wasn't impressed with its technical climbing or descending capability as a "trail" bike. The other review seems to think this would be a pretty capable "trail" bike. Nobody is wrong or right, just interesting to see different takes on the same discussion. It's a reminder to take all the online reviews with a grain of salt and to ride the bikes yourself if you are interested in buying one.
  • + 4
 I'm just not sure which enduro bro moonlighting as an XC opinion giver to believe!
  • + 1
 @JohanG: exactly
  • + 1
 A less flexy ovalized dropper with no wag in the saddle. Larger seals to make it even more durable, too. This could be just the ticket to get more top racers riding droppers. A new frame standard too! Yay!
  • + 4
 Think there would need to be a side to side breakaway built into the seat clamp for me to feel fully comfortable with the oval post. I think of all the cockeyed seats I see after crashes and feel like there would be enough side to side force to significantly decrease bushing/seal life on an oval seat post.
  • + 3
 Please over-fork this bike for the downcountry fans #trending
  • + 4
 Get a BMC Agonist
  • + 3
 67.5 HA......could’ve won the 2013 EWS
  • - 1
 It was ticking boxes like a good un. Then 3 saw the $11000 price tag. Lets be honest, for that kind of money I want it to suck me off every time I have to peddle up hill. THEN 3 read pressfit. Even if it did go down who wants to stick their knob in a mouth full of braces!!
  • + 2
 "two bottle cage mounts" Where? I only see one...
  • + 2
 The real question is does this thing needs meatier tyres or not?
  • + 2
 Does BMC have a Sixstroke??
  • + 2
 This one is definitely a dentist bike, no my new sb100
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 and its price is 2000 cheaper with all the same components and enve's
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 Bet it's faster and lighter without skinwall tires.
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 Entirely, utterly false.
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 holly shit, look this price!
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 ruined by the skinwall tyres
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 Enhanced by the skinwall tyres Smile
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 XC Racer? Downcountry ripper? At 48 Big Macs it's sure to please both crowds that's for sure.
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 the intense sniper is a much better bike it rides fast but even more fun and feels like a trail bike that can also be a race bike
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 Except the rear end on the Sniper is all over the place like a flexmachine.
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 Suspension attitude adjustment = Scott's Twinloc
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 22.9lbs? I had my 2016 Ripley LS (Size XL) at 23lbs - with pedals but no dropper. 130/120mm travel, Racing Ralph tires.
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 Would Love this bike. Who needs a kidney?
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 Braaaap!
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 Fourstroke Gang
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 That has got to be one of the best-looking bikes for a while now. I bet it would be incredible with a 140mm fork up front!
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