BMC's New SpeedFox AMP eMTB - Bike Connection Winter 2018

Feb 20, 2018
by Paul Aston  
BMC SpeedFox AMP

BMC SpeedFox Amp


BMC is a small Swiss-brand that garnered plenty of attention from the MTB world in 2013 when they announced their TrailFox: a 150mm travel, carbon framed, 29er that appeared around the same time as the Specialized Enduro 29. Last year saw BMC's 'AMP' appear, an electrified version of the acoustic Trailfox, with a top-of-the-range version that dropped in at a staggering €11,999.

The SpeedFox AMP is a shorter-travel, 130mm version which BMC wanted to appeal more to their general customers. The carbon mainframe with its 'Twin Hollow-core Technology' is shared between the Speed and TrailFox brothers, but the top-end SpeedFox has a new carbon swingarm that saves 700g over the bigger hitter and the rest of the components are aimed towards less-aggressive trail riding.



BMC SpeedFox Amp
SpeedFox Details

Intended use: trail riding
Travel: 130mm
Wheel size: 29"
Motor: Shimano STEPS E8000
Battery: Shimano 500wh integrated
Frame material: Carbon front triangle, carbon/allow swingarm versions
Head angle: 66º
Chainstay length: 450mm
Sizes: S, M, L
Price: from €5,499 - €12,999
More info: bmc-switzerland.com


BMC SpeedFox Amp
The unique headtube junction provides great storage for trail snacks.

BMC SpeedFox Amp
Every model of the SpeedFox is specced suitably with 200mm rotors front and rear.
BMC SpeedFox Amp
Rejoice, for there is a bottle mount.


BMC SpeedFox Amp
RaceFace wheels with Boost-width hubs are specced on the AMP Two.


Frame and Drive

The carbon frame is designed along with the rest of the BMC range in Grenchen, Switzerland. The AMP delivers a bold look with its huge headtube junction and massive downtube. The bike's "Twin Hollow-core Tube Design" consists of two complete and connected tubes that run either side of the huge internal battery, from the headtube to the motor/seat stay junction.



BMC claims that their unique design increases the lateral stiffness of the front triangle. The brand feels that many of their competitors' current e-offerings have reduced strength and stability in this area due to their battery mounts. Internal cable routing runs underneath the battery and can be accessed for maintenance.
BMC SpeedFox downtube

BMC SpeedFox Amp
I'm not convinced that this is the ideal location for the charging port and on/off button on Shimano's internal battery; it's directly in the line of mud and spray.
BMC SpeedFox downtube


Shimano take care of the drive with their STEPS motor and their own 500wh integrated battery, which has the charging port, LED charge indicators and on/off button directly in the firing line of mud and water. BMC have attended other details with a custom "Drive Unit Nest" that protects the motor from incoming terrain, they have also neatly located the speed sensor into the chainstay and use a hub-mounted magnet.

BMC continues to use a dual link "Advanced Pivot System" (APS) with a one-piece rear triangle to give 130mm of travel. The carbon swingarm is claimed to save 700 grams over the TrailFox's carbon triangle, but unless you can stump up well over five figures for the LTD, you will have to make do with the heavier, alloy version.


Geometry and Sizing


BMC SpeedFox AMP


There are three sizes to choose from (Small, Medium and Large). Reach numbers range from 401mm, to 445 and on up to 471mm, which should suit the majority of pilots. The head angle is set at 66º and the seat angle at 74º. The bike features a 35mm bottom bracket drop and 450mm chainstays.



Models

BMC SpeedFox AMP
AMP Three €5,499
BMC SpeedFox AMP
AMP One €9,499
BMC SpeedFox AMP
AMP Two €7,499
BMC SpeedFox AMP
AMP LTD €12,499


There are four different models to choose from. The 'budget' version (with an alloy swingarm) is dubbed the AMP Three and costs €5,499. The AMP Two sells for €7,499. The €9,499 AMP One still sports the alloy swinger. To get the full carbon frame is a serious investment. BMC have outdone themselves with the AMP LTD, which will cost a whopping €12,999 – specced with Shimano XTR Di2, lathered with Kashima-coated Fox suspension and rolling on carbon wheels from DT Swiss.


BMC SpeedFox Amp


We headed out on the SpeedFox in the Marittima mud. Though the name Forecaster was printed on the tire sidewalls, the tires proved a terrible choice for the weather. As with all Shimano STEPS-equipped bikes, the power transfer is super smooth and the latest firmware updates to the 'trail' mode continue to smooth out power delivery and give a natural feel, with output based on torque applied to the cranks. The motor is quiet, as is the rest of the bike, which is free from chain slap and battery rattles. The massive downtube genuinely adds huge stiffness between the rider's hands and feet, leading to a positive feel and dependable accuracy.

Personally, being interested in more capable and aggressive bikes, I am looking forward to putting the 150mm travel, Cane Creek-equipped, TrailFox AMP through its paces for a full test later this year. Unfortunately, there is still no news about an updated acoustic Trailfox 29er, which has plenty of followers waiting patiently...


58 Comments

  • + 17
 $12500/£8931... That bike or 2238 boxes of 20 chicken McNuggets and enough change for a mcflurry?
  • + 9
 At this moment in time some people in the UK would pay £8931 for a KFC!!!!
  • + 5
 @deli-hustler: First Brexit, now the KFC logistics chain in the UK grinds to a halt. Shit's gonna go down. The British population will only put up with so much.
  • + 5
 ...I think we need to change our pricing conventions on PB. Each bike should be evaluated based on how many McNuggets we could buy instead.
  • + 11
 one point on e bikes (mopeds):

we ride longer bikes than ever, low and slack, light, with almost DH capabilities. In the begining of the trend, that was at the expense of clmbing performance, but we didn't care cause what we enjoy is to go fast a.f. in the downs. Now that has changed, and bikes start climbing great too. Dream bikes, trully.

Let's introduce ebikes then. You end up with some 25kg mofo that handles like a pig in the downs, all just to sweat less on the ups, or be able to do one more lap? Basically the oposite of why modern bikes are like they are.

Can't see the point.
  • + 6
 By my calculations it will now only take a couple more months of Sam Pilgrim ambassadoring the sh*t out of them before even the last bit of doubt anywhere has been erased, so... have fun with your opinion while it lasts.
  • + 0
 @Ohlalaa: that might be true but I will not watch any video/stuff that dude puts out there. I don´t want to watch that regardless of whom Is riding an E-Bike
  • + 4
 Yeah but... as batteries get lighter and smaller and motors get lighter, smaller and more powerful , in a few years you won't be able to tell it's an e bike until it FLIES past you up hill and is no hindrance downhill... is that something to fear or is that progress. I don't know... Strava will blow up with faster and faster times. Us purists (old guys?) will be up in arms and there will be kids that will only know electric assist and laugh at the 'retro' bastards that get in their way uphill AND down. Change is inevitable and companies exist to make a profit so will continue to 'innovate' and bring new products to market to orovide an income for their owners/sharholders and employees. Dunno... Whats the world coming to??
  • + 8
 @ismasan can I ask you 1 question:
Have you actually ridden a modern eBike?

Because your assumption is the same as a lot of people who have read a lot about eBikes, but haven't actually tried one.

aaaand on with the negative props.....
  • + 4
 I don't see any fun in pedaling uphill, the sooner we omit it the better IMO
  • + 1
 @erniesbot: im with you there, but it does keep you fit and strong.

One thing that I don't get is why these bikes have such a wide ratio cassette. Surely you can get away with less as the motor is doing the work uphill? I would have thought a single speed set-up would do the job; save some weight and clutter from an already very heavy cluttered bike.
  • + 3
 This was advertised on PB last week: paradoxkinetics.com
Can't believe it's gone under the radar. Way more power than you get from a standard ebike and it'll bolt onto anything. Battery goes in your bag...
  • + 4
 Don't be so narrow minded! Nobody is forcing you to buy an e-bike, but if they allow people that have disabilities to get out and enjoy the great outdoors alongside their friends who are fortunate to be perfectly able-bodied then what is wrong with that?

I for one am happy to know there will be an option for when my knee finally gives in and I will still be able to enjoy the sport with my buddy's.
  • + 2
 @tremeer023: I tried that 12000€ BMC amp a few months ago and the reality is we started to try out what were the most stupidly steep climbs we could find. Sure we had an engine but even in the most powerful setting you only get up to 250W of assist from the shimano steps e8000 engine which means you still have to do a lot of work and short gears get definitely used.

Those 250W e-bikes would be boring in flatland though.
  • + 1
 @opignonlibre: sorry dude but you're quoting completely wrong figures. 250 is the nominal wattage. The max wattage from a Shimano 8000 is around 650-700 watts I think
  • + 1
 @IllestT: uh ok. Anyway the engine by itself wouldn't have been able to grind us up those climbs without some help. We spent the whole ride in the 180bpm heartrate area.
  • + 1
 @tremeer023: Shows you didn't ride an ebike yet. Shimano motor needs a cadence of 80rpm or more to submit the power. Slower means less or nearly no support. So same ratio is needed - your heartrate will be the same as well. Only the speed getting up is higher Smile
  • + 1
 @IllestT: nope. And I won't, is just not my thing.

But please, oh please, don't try tell me they handle like Bronsons now... Even Sam Pilgrim looks like he's flicking around on shopping kart.
  • + 1
 @ismasan: so how do you form preconceptions of things you have no experience of?
  • + 1
 @IllestT: I'm confused
  • + 1
 @IllestT: everyone does, mate, you too.

So, do they really handle like a bronson in the downs?
  • + 1
 @ismasan: mmmm no, no I don't.
You're a fool
  • + 1
 @IllestT: call me cynic if you want, but no fool here
  • + 7
 Amazing, easily $25k in Australia. Mountain bikes have just hit road bike pricing.
  • + 2
 I tend to not whine on pricing but KTM E-XC, a much more capable electric machine, costs 5000€ less. Yes 5 fkng thousand...
  • + 1
 @T-Bot Yea or small family Toyota hatchback pricing
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: yeah but there aren't many places in Europe that you can legally ride a KTM E-XC compared to an eBike, plus there's the annual tax and insurance.
They're not very versatile either as they need a trailer to be brought to a track.
They're hardly flying off the shelves.
I bet KTM dealers are probably selling more eMTB's than eMoto's
  • - 1
 @IllestT: come on man, let's be honest.
1. Quite a lot of MTBers bring their bikes to trails using their cars.
2. Not versatile? Uhm, the issue is an average E-MTBer cannot do anything else on the bike than hold the bars and pedal. They may as well sit on a moto.
3. Annual tax and insurance, in Sweden 5k € price difference gives you at least 10 years.
4. Bans on motos, hm. Depends where you live, in many places you can ride a moto in the woods and nobody can touch you. Just take off the license plates. Breakin´d´LHAW!

People don't buy motos because they cannot manage/are affraid of the power and weight. That will change as soon as moto companies get the finger out of their bum and start producing lighter, less powerful motos, aka off road scooters Wink There's at least one already, it looks like it's made by Ikea and it's called Cake. The man making it, founder of POC just needs to design a better looking package. Right now he is in the Swedish functionalism bubble (even Ikea is now going away from it), but still as aone of pioneers he is getting things moving. I'd personally love a light trials E-moto when I get older.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Objectively speaking, I think the difference between an analog bike an an ebike is tiny compared to the difference between an ebike and an emoto that will keep up with a 400cc beast. You're being disingenuous (posh trolling).
  • - 1
 @BenPea: yes and what you are describing, the gap between e-bije and e-moto is exactly the niche that Cake tries to fill and I believe there will be more of these. There’s enough moto enthusiasts who buy an Enduro or MX, make a tiny crash, fk up something real bad and never ride again. On a biccle, if you wash out in a turn at 20km/h, or tip to the inside, the frame will give you a bruise. A moto will break your fkng leg. It’s no surprise so many stories of torn ACL on Pinkbike comment board come from people who ride moto

Niche trolling
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I can't see how anything more powerful and heavy than current ebikes (with a twist throttle to boot) is acceptable on singletrack. I hope you're purely putting these forward as toys for 4x4 tracks.
  • - 1
 @BenPea: the thing is, I know that in some contries the local Police is quite keen on catching folks doing stuff in the woods that they're not supposed to, being biking, riding moto or picking up mushrooms in national reserves. like in Italy. I've seen well placed Police cars patrolling entrances to the forest, waiting for "criminals". I've been told by a local guide to watch for Police on certain popular trails crossing road (like Anaconda near Garda) even though theoretically it's legal to ride bikes there. But in Poland or in Sweden... forget it. You can take a moto and ride straight to the woods. Chance of getting jacked by Police is next to none. Sure it's not cool to break the law and get shouted at by other people on the trails but with E-moto you can simply approach the exit of the woods as you would on a bike and have a look whether there is a Police car there if some hiker reported you. I know of at least 2 a*sholes who do that here in Sweden, and there's been a case of an "organized" moto riders in Poland, frequently riding on hiking trails. I saw them a few times myself. Turned out they were friends o KTM shop owner, who was a realtive to the head of local Forestry commission. If it became a bigger trend sure, Police would take action, at least in Sweden Police has a helicopter actively burning my tax money above my head very often. Anyhoo I think preposterous sht like Stealth Bomber B52 (name says it all) and Cake are just going to get more popular. the segment will grow.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: and we know what the B52 did to certain forests in Asia...
  • + 0
 @BenPea: BOOOM! And You got the witty troll award of the day Big Grin
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: This means so much to me. I'd like to thank my mum and dad, all the wonderful people who supported me and Richard Nixon.
  • + 1
 The red and green models are by far the nicest looking ebike I’ve seen to date. I used to think eBikes were (for want of a better word) ‘gay’. But after watching a few of Sam pilgrims and embn videos I think eBikes look fun. Just a shame the absolute max budget on my next bike is likely to be £1k
  • + 1
 Those ebikes are truly amazing going up and general riding but in rock gardens and some twitchy single trails they are a little bit too Much,bring the power down please or smoth then please,and the weight when you have to cross them over an obstacle is like power lifting,and when you have a flat and want to turn them upside down you have to dismantle that little screen and function thing ,cause if you forget that you might ruined them ,but ......,they do put a smile on you ,it’s just like you have pro legs
  • + 3
 €13,000!! you could buy a motorbike for that........
  • + 1
 well.... : )
  • + 1
 e-bikes is e-bike and bike is bike, if you put battery to your legs you will have e-legs and you cant win olympic running marathon
  • + 1
 ... this article and bike deserves more hate than what can be found in this comment section... TWELVETHOUSANDFIVEHUNDRED EUROS!!!!!1!!!!!111!!!!!!1111!1!!1!
  • + 2
 No comments? Where is the hate?
  • + 15
 No comments... Thats the hate. Smile
  • + 2
 Here:

KILL IT!! KILL IT WITH FIREEE!!
  • + 1
 When a rock hits that on off switch and water gets in there you could be looking for a fire extinguisher, possibly.
  • + 1
 When you think there's no more puke left in your stomach, then you scroll down and see the first picture.
  • + 1
 Is it just me that read the title and thought that AMP were making bike stuff again?
  • + 2
 Amp e-mtb.... Just sounds like 'amputee'
  • + 1
 An eMTB that looks like a gearbox bike, shits getting blurry...
  • + 1
 Pinkbike you are truly boring me with ebikes. Should I go to surfline?
  • + 1
 is it written """ AMP LTD €12,499 """ ??????? wtf
  • + 1
 Looks like a Sess...no wait..
  • + 1
 A Bike With Battery. Psh.
  • + 1
 Cheaper to buy a proper motorbike
  • + 1
 12500€. Trollolol
  • + 0
 I hate these prices !!!
  • + 0
 i actually love to laugh about them... WHO will pay 12K € for a fckin (e)bike ... Haibikes are great in the game and half of the price
  • + 1
 Actually I test rode the 13000€ amp alongside a 3300€ Focus Jam2 and a specialized whatever turbo at a difference price point. I felt some differences between these 3 bikes and the BMC felt a bit better but I must admit the fact they were powered smoothed the differences. For instance I doubt anyone would feel the difference between the alu and the carbon swingarm frames in a test and the difference is not worth 9000€ in my book.

But then for some people 9000€ is pocket change.

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