Video: The Birth of Bold's Linkin Trail

 Agreed, something tells me the dirt and mud that flow into that, aren't going to just flow out like water and air. They should include a big ass pipe cleaner with the frame!

 Which part, the part about it working, or the part about it mattering, or both?

 I'm with Zion-i. Good concept and all...but inevitably water and mud will work it's way in there, then you'll have to pull the bottom to get it all out of there. Without any clear path of escape, not only will it possibly bind up, but there may be excessive wear on any rotating parts as well as potentially damaging the rear shock shaft..

 It reminds me of when forks used to have rubber 'boots' on them to protect the stanchions. Grit, mud, and water would get in there eventually, and the boot would just hold it in place instead of allowing it to shed.

 I am skeptical about every part of this bike. I hope they prove me wrong and it works without issue, because it is a really cool idea.

 the headtube hole leads to the downtube...any dirt or grime is going to travel down the downtube and exit the frame before the bb/under the shock, im sure there is a drainage opening there... as usual more clueless comments on pinkbike...the need for airflow seems ridiculous though, especially including it in the video like its some genius feature.

 It looks kind of cool, but I can't really see any advantage of the invisible shock. Also their air flow system really seems to be nothing more than just another marketing gadget. Add 27,5+ and boost to that and I'm not in the least interrested anymore.

 better than this still

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 @hamncheez if you're gonna ride an ugly, heavy bicycle, it might as well have a motor in it.

 What if somebody came up with a frame design that incorporates a shock mounted outside of the frame tubing to for optimum airflow. As a bonus, it might make it easier to adjust the air pressure and damper settings too. I'm gonna try to mock up a design.

 @dlxah wow! what a concept!

 SERIOUSLY HOW DO YOU ADJUST THE AIR PRESSURE AND REBOUND

 How often do you need to change your shock settings? It's not that hard to take the cover off.

 it makes the pro pedal on rp23 and similar features on other shocks pretty much useless, if it was coupled with a remote lockout that would be cool.

 Yeah, but some people don't care about climb platforms. I don't see why you couldn't route a remote to it though?

 In the industry there are some clever ideas and some stupid ideas. It takes some time to be proved. Guess this one what it is going to be!

 My DBA looks pretty rad outside, easy to clean/tune. This idea is fantasy dead 10 years ago.

 I feel bad for the redalp, it's like a super ugly dog. I feel like it needs a hug.

 If the down tube air flow doesn't work it looks like there is one in the seat tube as well, might be even more effective than the one up front.

 Ba Dummm Tssssh

 Slow clap

 I turned it off at that point aswell

 ...then you have not seen the 29+ option ;-)

 just stopped the video same place haha

 Hockey card in the spokes, plus fart can. And ground effects!

 Nah, its made in Switzerland so it was def a stack of $100's caught up in there!

 If you read, its designed, developed, and assembled in Switzerland. That usually means manufactured in Asia.

 @DBomberMan Fox already has you covered with their Flux helmet!

 It makes sense to me, I'm not heavy and I'd overheat most lightweight inline shocks on some of the trails around here, and that's with air flowing over it to cool it down. It'd be a lot worse confined in a plastic box.

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 That's a good definition - Designed, not engineered.

Airflow from about 3sq.cm.@ 30km/h to cool an air shock, that is already facing more friction from all the seals.
Limited shock options due to the frame design.
Opening for the shock adjusters that is just at the place where all of the mud goes to.
Able to take wider tires (as if that's not bad but still more mud in the opening)
A 5th or whatever's the count new axle standard.

It's got so many wrong's with it that the great design cannot justify.
Then again it looks just a if it was designed by DT Swiss - overly complicated solutions to problems no one new even existed.

Oh and it's cables are internal, all but the dropper post - what gives?!

 The airflow is the only truly bad thing about it. If you care about shock options, this frame was not designed for you. If you care about being able to frequently fiddle with your shock, this frame was not designed for you. But there's a lot of people that set and forget the shock, and are okay with basic shock performance. Some of them shred hard. One of the best riders I know rides an rp2. Rebuilds it every 4 months, knows his pressures and rebound settings and the only time the shock is touched by human hands is when it's being unbolted from the bike. I haven't changed anything on my vivid air for the past 3 months at least, but I don't think I'd be happy with any inline shock.

If the shock didn't cook itself to death inside a plastic box, I would buy a frame with this design in a second. Provided it had the compatibility/geometry I was after of course - no interest in a plus bike. It looks frikken awesome, and I like the idea of not exposing my shock to dust/mud/rocks.

 I can Barely hide my shock

 You just have to keep it internal

 Yes because "142" is old fashioned...

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 You might be surprised how hot your shock gets. Ride down a fast tech trail that you feel works your suspension, then feel the can at the bottom. You'll find it's quite warm!

 But be careful, I damn near burned my calf once resting next to my bike right after a 10 min descent. Coils and big air cans do better, but little Float straight bodied shocks get really hot. Like really, really hot. I'm not joking. It was hot through my glove.

 @atrokz agreed. Ive got my RP23 pretty warm, even after long descents with full compressions and mostly 80% compressions, but never hot that I wouldn't want to touch it.

Calipers and disc's on the other hand Burn my leg hair right off!

 The scott world cup team uses diposable thermometer stickers on their shocks and said on a pb article that there shocks get as hot as 240F occassionally. So yes, shocks get hot. And if napa ducting is any indication, some frame vents are probably more effective than sticking it in the open air.

The real question, is which songs can I tune it to whistle?

 I highly doubt that you will be able to use any other shock, especially after seeing "Technology Partner: DT Swiss"

 Not that I like this bike, but they probably incorporate something similar to the sag meter found on the evil following

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 The diameter of a proper 3 inch width 650B tire can equal that of an 2.1 inch 700C tire. So no change in BB height. WTB's first 2.8 width plus tire was deliberately made "small" so as to allow quicker conversions/adoption from existing 29er owners and brands with 29er models, it was not in any way the optimal size to really exploit what's possible.

 How often do you end up cleaning mud off the FRONT of the head tube really?

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 Of course we do (and Klein Palomino too). Integrated but not hidden.

 I was stoked on finally getting to ride a bike with proper sized wheels!

 As an owner of an anthem, i can clearly see you're blind