First Look: Rose, USWE, BOS - Eurobike 2015

Aug 26, 2015
by Mike Levy  
Eurobike 2015



Rose Pikes Peak


Standing out with its rough and unfinished appearance, the Pikes Pike is an aluminum prototype from Rose that features a nifty geometry adjustment system designed to allow for relatively quick changes between settings. The 165mm travel rear end is controlled via a relatively conventional looking four-bar design, with a rocker link that compresses a vertically mounted air shock and a Horst Link design with the axle pivot on the seat stay, but the interesting bit is the lower shock mount. Rose have employed a cam system that, when rotated, changes both the bike's geometry and suspension progression from steep and more linear, to slacker and more progressive.
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A cam in the lower shock mount allows for quick and easy geometry and suspension adjustment.

This is all done with an 8mm hex key, and Rose said that all of the system's components stay attached to the frame - there's no removing, flipping, and re-installing any inserts. The difference between the two settings is a full degree - 66.5 to 65.5 - and the bottom bracket changes by 13mm. The adjustment system looks a bit rough on this aluminum prototype, but Rose would obviously tidy things up before the design hits production for 2016, likely with a carbon version.





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The Patriot 15 BP offers fifteen liters of storage and comes with a three liter bladder.
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USWE has gone with a four-point harness rather than a more traditional chest and stomach strap system.



USWE Patriot 15 BP

USWE's Patriot 15 BP forgoes using a traditional strap and buckle across the rider's stomach, instead employing a four-point harness system that the company has named 'No More Dancing Monkey'. The name is amusing, but it also aptly describes what it feels like when you have a bag flopping around on your back while riding: ''A feeling of dancing monkeys, hammering their backs and heads for cruel pleasure," according to USWE. I've never really felt like I've had monkeys pounding on the back of my head, but I think we all know how annoying a floppy backpack can feel, which is something that USWE say they have been able to eliminate. The four-way adjustable straps are also wider than what is used by some of the competition, which should help to spread out the load, and the hose from the three liter water bladder (which is included) can be routed on either side.

The Patriot 15 BP offers, you guessed it, fifteen litres of storage, and the twin buckles on the back can be used to carry a full face helmet or armour that you don't want to put on until you need it. The outer zippered pocket is also home to a tool roll that is slid down into a mesh pocket until you need to pull it out, and there's even a built-in CE-certified backplate between you and the bladder. The Patriot 15 BP comes in camo if you're looking to blend in, or a red option if the army theme isn't for you.


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  The large main pocket is spacious enough for pretty much anything you would ever need on a ride.






BOS Deville FCV


Legendary suspension brand BOS have taken their FCV damper technology from the 208mm travel Idylle RaRe DH fork and stuffed it into a new mid-travel offering that's designed for enduro racing. The 160mm travel Deville FCV's open-bath damper is said to be able to differentiate between suspension movement that's initiated from impacts and movement that comes from the rider - think of body weight being moved around - thanks to its Frequency Control Valve. BOS says that the design allows for less fatigue, less brake dive, and more traction, all while letting the fork react better to square edge impacts. There's a built-in hydraulic bottom out system, also lifted from the Idylle RaRe, that keeps the fork from clanging off the end of its stroke. External adjustments include both low- and high-speed compression damping, as well as low-speed rebound.

BOS have also updated fork's air spring to have it provide more support in the early stages of its stroke, but also more ramp up when you need it. The fresh chassis features 34mm stanchions, and you can run either 15mm or 20mm thru-axles. Fork weight is said to be 2,050 grams, which is a bit heavier than some of BOS' competition if you go on claimed weights, but many of those who've used BOS suspension before would advise you that the performance is worth the slight weight penalty.
BOS Devile FCV
The new 160mm travel Deville FCV uses a damper lifted from BOS' downhill fork.


BOS Suspension images. FCV Closed
The FCV damper system when closed.
BOS Suspension images. FCV Open
The FCV damper when opened.



77 Comments

  • + 92
 That guy on the rose bike, is squeezing the brake lever...........................something I also do when I see bikes I can't afford. lol!
  • + 46
 I do it on all the bikes I get close enough to. I just can't help myself!
  • + 31
 It's like kicking the tires on a new car. Automatic response.....Yep the brakes work, I'll take it haha!
  • + 40
 Hand full of brake OR finger flick to the carbon! Yep that's hollow!
  • + 24
 Squeez the lever, click the shifter up then down, then bounce the fork. If it passes that test, it's legit.
  • + 5
 Just like my push fit BB, that geometry adjustment system will be creaking like a mofo before long ridden in mud and slop...
  • + 10
 For some reason i always squeeze the tires.
  • + 11
 I tap on the frame with my nails and run my hand along the top tube. Is that weird?
  • + 12
 @MDRipper we gotta make sure there's air in the tires before testing the rear shock by leaning my elbow on the saddle. and of course the obligatory curb drop-off parking lot test to simulate real DH conditions.
  • + 3
 the yellow rose bike in the background looks a lot more interesting imo
  • + 3
 @cuban-b: do not forget to lean yourself on the handlebars. The Flick® and the Brake-lever-squeeze® are always appropriate.

Do not forget the nod™ in case there is a salesman around...
  • + 4
 that's right. cant leave the bike shop without making sure their inventory all have proper sag.
  • + 4
 Well, those levers ain't gonna squeeze themselves...
  • + 13
 I like to flick my tongue over the tread blocks! I have a restraining order from four different tyre stores and Big Al's wheelchair outlet!
  • + 1
 Squeezing the lever does squat in a bike that's stationary but it feels so damn right that when you do it, the bike is already amazing, I always do that. even to other peoples' bikes which is weird.
  • + 27
 I like the buckle system on that pack. I mean I know it is not enduro to ride with a pack anymore, but I like that pack.
  • + 15
 Well it's just one strap short of the messenger bags with stabilizer straps (which are actually quite nice when you're riding).

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  • + 9
 I wish I could ride without a pack and be enduro. But I have a leat branded uswe pack and it is the most comfortable backpack I've ever worn even with a full load.
  • - 9
flag eeeasy (Aug 26, 2015 at 6:52) (Below Threshold)
 I have one for sale. check it out on my buysell.
  • + 8
 I've been using an USWE pack for the past year. It makes all other packs seem like children's school backpacks. No bouncing around or movement, fits as snugly as advertised. Its one of those things that makes you look forward to riding.
  • + 2
 @grim007 Its exactly like the Leatt because USWE made it! Click link, look at image!
  • + 2
 d'oh
  • + 19
 "The fresh chassis features 34mm stanchions, and you can run either 15mm or 20mm thru-axles."
Everybody are complaining when you have to use a 15mm axle but nobody give a f*ck when you can use a 20mm one. Ok.
  • + 4
 And in Black Ano Stanchion . . . This is certainly make my day.
  • + 3
 To be honest, I'm not that stoked on the black stanchions. I think of black as RockShox now, just as gold is FOX; BOS was able to pull off the old color quite well. It felt good when the top tier suspension manufacturers all had different coatings/ano. I called it "champagne", whereas my Suntour fork with an almost identical stanchion color gets branded "weird yellow grey".
  • + 2
 I think we'll see more and more brands with black stanchions. I hope Dvo will make a single crown fork with green stanchions, now that would be great!
  • + 1
 @madbob9: Second that. Their parts already look crazy enough; I bet they could get away with green.
  • - 1
 Wow. I didn't know RockShox invented the black stanchion. Manitou must have traveled to the future to black ano my 2007 Nixon fork. "I think of black as blah blah blah". Lame dude. Yeah I had crappy day. But seriously, what the hell are you babbling about?
  • + 3
 @sOOper-nOOb: Just personal taste and design OCD. I like things to be neat and tidy and easily classified, at least on the top tier. Sorry to bother you. Smile Hope tomorrow goes better!
  • + 11
 Upside down with a gearbox or its old news
  • + 5
 My old banshee scythe had adjustable suspension travel and geometry. It used a single 6mm Allen key to change it. Hows needing an 8mm any better? My multitool doesn't have an 8mm on it...
  • + 33
 8mm is obviously 33% stronger. Science.
  • + 7
 Get a new mutitool Big Grin
  • + 9
 No, ive had this multitool 12 years
  • + 2
 still prototype; cut some slack
  • + 1
 use your pinky?
  • + 1
 Q/R on the Rocky Mountain Pipeline was the bee's knees fifteen years ago. Travel and angle adjust, sans tools.
  • + 8
 I suggest only buying bikes/components that are compatible with your multi-tool then
  • + 1
 Thats the plan. Apart from bb/cassette/headset, I can strip my bike down to parts with just my multitool. I wouldn't, id use my actual Allen keys, but out on the trail I only have my multitool.
  • + 1
 maybe they give you an 8mm in the bag that has the owners manual and reflectors in it.
  • + 1
 Ive got about 10 8mm Allen keys, just not on my multitool. And as its something you'd change while out riding, id need my multitool. See my problem?
  • + 2
 I read somewhere that they plan to actually use a 6mm allen bolt on the final version as opposed to the 8mm on the prototype.
  • + 8
 That rose in background .. !
  • + 4
 Same thoughts here. I want that bike!
  • + 1
 I think it's a Soul Fire.
  • + 3
 It is the new Soul Fire. Probably with new Lyric in front...
  • + 1
 This year's Soul Fire is a good looking bike, but that colour makes is look awesome.
  • + 5
 There's a reason adjustable geometry died out years ago. If the frame has good geo to begin with, it shouldn't need to be adjustable.
  • + 3
 Not to mention it's more fiddly shit to lose/break/creak.
  • + 2
 absolutely
  • + 5
 Hope BOS give more than 0.3mm of mud clearance on these forks, unlike the current 650 devilles.
  • + 1
 Good God! The only fkin thing that annoys me from my Deville! Terrible mud clearence!
  • + 1
 One reason I changed to pikes! It's asif they designed them for 26" but thought they would get on the 27.5" band wagon without any thought for clearance.
  • + 5
 65.5 to 65.5 head angle change? Changes, thats just the way it is Smile
  • + 1
 I own a Rose road bike and love it. Having owned three other brands of direct-sales bikes (those were mountain bikes) I have to say that, in my experience, Rose's customer service is head and shoulders above the others. The fact that one can configure the bike's components sets them further apart. My current MTB is not a Rose because when I got it they only had the old Uncle Jimbo, which was a bit outdated. Having ridden the new Jimbo I had already decided that my next ride would be a Rose, but maybe now it will be a carbon one...
  • + 1
 I've just taken my Rose Granite Chief (sort of the 150mm version of the Uncle Jimbo) out for its second ride. I absolutely love the bike now I'm getting to grips with it. I haven't had such positive experiences with their customer service though. It arrived a two scratches on the top tube; one 13cm long and one slightly shorter. I sent Rose multiple photos which clearly show the damage yet I've just been told today by Rose customer service that "the photos are fine and there´re no scratches at the frame. That´s the normal look of the frame with the raw finish.". I should also add that there was no damage to the massive box it arrived in so it must have occurred at Rose's end. Very disappointing really given how great the rest of the bike and service up until that point had been.
  • + 1
 Sorry to read that. I guess it just goes to show that customer service can be a bit of a gamble...
  • + 1
 I would assume that if the BOS can handle 20x110 and 15x100, via inserts for the latter, it could have adapters for 15x110...i.e. boost. Not a proponent, just saying it is future proof, if it does catch on. Same applied to the Fox36.
  • + 1
 Brake spacing is different from 15x100 to Boost.
  • + 0
 What does the FCV valve actually do? Is it an inertia valve like what specialized has? Is it a TPC+ style valve?

I'm pretty stoked on my fox 36, which has no gimmicks, a 20mm through axle with bolts, and adjustable high and low speed compression, so I'm curious as to what this thing brings to the table.
  • + 3
 It has 34mm legs which offer a more compliant ride!
  • + 3
 Based on the springs they showed I'm assuming it's an inertia valve similar to what Specialized has.
  • + 3
 open bath is awesome.
  • + 3
 There a some guesses to be found there: www.ridemonkey.com/threads/bos-idylle-fcv-37.269554
  • + 1
 No way can a chunk of industrial box like metal on the BB be labelled progression. If it doesn't resemble a Session not interested!
  • + 3
 that's a Karpiel design on the rose, I remember my old Disco Volante
  • + 1
 bos with black stanchions and FCV?
  • + 1
 That Rose looks like every other bike out there at the moment.
  • - 1
 Session?
  • + 1
 And the one behind it looks like a TR250
  • + 1
 What if I want slack and linear??
  • + 2
 rose canyon ghost ?
  • + 1
 Can you buy a Rose in the U.S. yet?
  • + 0
 meh banshee! banshee! banshee! etc
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