Brannigan and the New Commencal Meta HT AM - Video

Oct 16, 2017
by COMMENCAL bicycles  



We’re staying faithful to our theory that it’s better to have a good hardtail than a bad full suspension bike.

We’ve developed the new Meta HT AM to bring more overall comfort and fun through an all-new modern frame design which is compatible with 27.5”+ and 29” standards.

At Commencal, we believe above all else that the geometry should push your limits and aid in your progression, but this is also a fun bike, with no fuss. You don’t need to worry about your settings or components, just get out on your bike.

If you need further confirmation that the Meta HT AM has no limits, check out this video of George Brannigan shredding the Meta HT AM Origin model…

Love Dirt!

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The Range

New Commencal Meta HT AM
Meta HT AM Origin
FORK: RockShox Recon RL, 150mm, rebound, low speed comp to lock, boost
Brakes: Tektro HD-M 285, Hydraulic disc brake 200mm/180mm
Transmission: SRAM NX, 1x11

Prices
Europe: 1.099 €
USA: USD $1,099
Canada: CAD $1,499
Australia: AU $1,599
New Zealand: NZ $1,799
Mexico: MXN $22,900







New Commencal Meta HT AM
Meta HT AM Essential
Fork: RockShox Yari RC, 160mm, compression, rebound, boost
Brakes: SRAM Level, 200mm/180mm
Transmission: SRAM NX, 1x11
Rims: Spank Oozy Trail 395, 32 holes, tubeless ready, 35mm inner width

Prices
Europe: 1.599 €
USA: USD $1,599
Canada: CAD $2,149
Australia: AU $2,299
New Zealand: NZ $2,599
Mexico: MXN $33,500




New Commencal Meta HT AM
New Commencal Meta HT AM
2018 New Meta HT AM Frame
AL 6061 triple butted
• Bottom Bracket, BSA 68mm
• Headset ZS44/ZS56
• Seat Tube 31,6mm
• Dropper seatpost stealth compatible
• Rear hub 148 x 12mm (Maxxle standard) – IS 160mm rear brake
• 27.5+ / 2.8’’ Tires compatible (71-584)
• 29’’ / 2.4’’ Tires compatible (60-622)
• Designed for 160mm travel fork

Prices
Europe: 349 €
USA: USD $399
Canada: CAD $519
Australia: AU $569
New Zealand: NZ$ 649
Mexico: MXN$ 8,500




New Commencal Meta HT AM

New Commencal Meta HT AM
New Commencal Meta HT AM

New Commencal Meta HT AM


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131 Comments

  • + 58
 Beautiful , cheap! It makes me wanna hop on one and ride away.
  • + 7
 I agree, I was looking at the Orange Crush, yet they want over 500$ just for that frame in the US. This is a great Alternative!!!
  • + 6
 @drbelleville: I built up a Brand-X HT-01 hard tail from chain reaction cycles with a few old bits and some new. It is a lot of fun. That frame is only around $200 NZD and is quality!
  • + 3
 @UKiwiRider: Thanks for the info, checking it out now, that may be a great option as well.
  • + 1
 @drbelleville: No worries. I ran a 140mm shock. It slackens the head angle a touch. Probably doesn't climb as well this way but goes downhill well. Awesome winter hack.
  • + 1
 @drbelleville: anything is better than an Orange. They literally have the ugliest welds ever.
  • + 44
 Dear Commencal, Plz make a tonne more videos featuring George Brannigan and Remi Thirion. That is all.
  • + 11
 Still waiting for the warner and barelli vid!!!!! Come on max make it happen!!!
  • + 1
 how's thirion doing after that crash at the beginning of the season?
  • + 2
 My second fav video of the year after Skidsville. Killer riding and one of the Wu's best tracks. MORE PLEASE!!!
  • + 1
 @rocky-mtn-gman: he rode some french enduros and Finale EWS if i'm not wrong.
  • + 1
 @rocky-mtn-gman:
He seemed to be fine in September @LacBlanc, though it's hard to tell since he'd blow minds even when riding at 50%
  • + 34
 16.8" chainstays
65* HTA.
74* STA
Threaded BB
Room for 2.8 650+ tires
Cheap

THANK YOU COMMENCAL! I had never considered a Commencal before, but you're definitely on my radar now!
  • + 14
 If the made a cromo one with some quality tubes I would be a happy man.
  • + 17
 @fartymarty: check their website; you might be a happy man.
  • + 2
 NS Djambo Evo is exactly that but slightly shorter chainstays and a cheaper price, Plus a chromo option...
  • + 1
 You're lucky man, our local distributor had jack up the price here in the Philippines to completely unreasonable prices almost $200 more that srp, this could be a great option against Dartmoor which sells like pancakes here,
  • + 2
 Yep nice BUT 490 seat tube on a size large?? That with a 445 reach so not super long. ( i know a hardtail gets longer through the fork stroke). Gonna limit the dropper length.........very nice otherwise and great value for sure
  • + 1
 @sixstringsteve: Not sure if it's different for various regions, but the Canadian website has a cromo version of the 2017 frame only with the old geo. No cromo in Canada, yet. Maybe they just have to update their website.
  • + 0
 @MrLynch: so you mean it's not exactly that?
  • + 20
 B-b-b-b-b-but you can't shred on a Recon RL!!!!! Sick video. Ride yer bike!
  • + 8
 George Braapigan!
  • + 6
 You mean to tell me I can have this much fun on the bike that does not cost $8000? I'm flabbergasted
  • + 11
 Hoooray for hardtails! PB needs more coverage of bikes like this. This bike, canfield options, Whyte 905, and some Kona options are all on the short list for my next bike. I want my future hardtail to be lightweight and 2x compatible (!!!) because I ride fast on fire roads and need the gear range for the ups.
  • + 4
 i just built up a chromag stylus, soooo much fun. kinda spendy, but totally drool worthy. hardtails forever
  • + 1
 @upchuckyeager: just got one myself, can't wait to get it built
  • + 3
 Love my Yelli Screamy. Next will be a steel HT with an even more fun geometry! #steelisreal
  • + 1
 The problem is that many hardtails are not that light. Everyone will try to sell you on the aggressive hardtails, but most of them are just too damn heavy to justify the price. $800 bucks for a 6.5lbs steel frame? My 160mm full suspension frame weights 7.5lbs. What sense does that make? When you say want lightweight, be critical, ask about frame weight, and don't take "but it's burly" for an answer. Demand under 5lbs, and yes, sometimes that means aluminum or carbon.
  • + 12
 This thing needs a dropper post.
  • + 3
 Agreed. Would have nailed it otherwise! Still great option in this price range
  • + 4
 It has the routing set up for an internal dropper ready to go at least. They usually will have a higher model with GX and a dropper included. If they offer a GX Eagle and 150m dropper at or under $2000 that would be killer.
  • + 5
 One thing I don't understand is why almost all of these rowdy hardtails are 27.5+/29. I think that a 26+/27.5 hardtail like the Nukeproof Scout 27.5 would be just as fun if not more fun than a hardtail with wagon wheels. But in all honesty I haven't tried one.
  • + 3
 This is why I ride a hardtail, fun all the way. This bike may well replace my 2017 Ragley Mmmbop next year.
  • + 5
 There are not many 26+ wheels around, very small tyre choice too.

27.5+ has decent support now and 29ers are booming so obvious choice.
  • + 6
 There are plenty of good 27.5 HTs I can think of off the top of my head.... Vitus Sentier, Airborne Goblin Evo, Ghost Asket, just to name a few.

But in my experience (rode exclusively HT for the past 3 years) if I'm trying to ride a HT fast I want the rollover of the 29" wheel. I'm sure the 27.5 is fun too, but going fast on a HT is a bit like trying to ride a jackhammer (in a fun way), and the bigger wheels smooth things out nicely. If your trails are on the smoother side idk if you'll notice the difference really, but 29er geo is pretty well worked out now where I don't think you have to worry about "fun" handling.
  • + 2
 @Racer951: Not true, Maxxis makes plenty of 26 x 2.4 - 3.0 tires to choose from. With only a 40mm bb drop this bike would be fine with smaller wheels.
  • + 3
 @MmmBones: Look im just stating the truth, there really are not that many 26+ rims available and hardly any fully built wheels.

Tyre wise again, there may be some 26+ tyres but you cannot count a 2.4 as a plus tyre and a handful of maxxis is the larger sizes doesnt really add up to more than a 'very small' choice, does it?

Then you have 27.5+ - Rims from almsost all big manufacturers and a rather large tyre choice from pretty much everyone - Maxxis, WTB, Specialized, Schwable etc.

You just cant compare 26+ to 27.5+ in terms of availablilty, sorry, you just need to convince yourself of that, everybody else already is.
  • + 2
 @bkm303: thanks man I didn't know about any of those you rattled off. I don't want to start a wheel size war but I ventured back into the hardtail world in the past year on a Honzo - maybe it's just too long for me but personally after a year of trying I'm just admitting to myself that 475mm reach with 29" wheels doesn't work for me. Maybe my bike is just too big for me (5'11") but every time I get back on a 27.5 after riding the Honzo it's a breath of fresh air so I was considering trying to find a 27.5 rowdy hardtail and the Nukeproof Scout was the only one I'd come across.
  • + 2
 @tsn73: yeah different strokes for different folks. I'm about the same height, I'm surprised the Honzo doesn't fit, but I haven't ridden a Kona in a loooong time. FWIW, my wife is on the Sentier and she's loved it (she's rides a small and didn't want the big wheels). I have the Goblin Evo (it used to be a 29er) and have been really happy with it as well. Geo maybe isn't quite as trendy as some of the others but I think it handles nicely.

Actually I think the older Commencal hardtails were regular 27.5" as well, a guy around my old trails has one. Might still be some on CRC or Commencal's website.
  • + 2
 Highly recommend the Chromags. Maybe a little pricey, but I got a used Stylus and it's unreal. I'm still running 26 and I ride some really rowdy trails on it so I don't think that's an issue at all. They have a bunch of frames that fall in the 26+/275 range.
  • + 0
 @Racer951: Maxxis, WTB, VEE and Surly make 26+ tires, Stans makes complete 26+ wheels and rims, Bontrager makes complete wheels, WTB makes wheels and rims, Velocity makes rims, Hope= wheels and rims.

First it was "very small choice" now it's "You just cant compare 26+ to 27.5+ in terms of availablilty, sorry"

there is moar than a very small choice, sorry, not sorry. Try changing your argument again to fit your narrative.
  • + 2
 @MmmBones: I give up, quick look at your own bike picture reveals your motivation though....
  • + 3
 @tsn73: Try the Production Privee. I have the OKA (140mm) but you can also get the SHAN with a 160 mm fork. Sold a carbon everything 150 mm dual suspension and I'm way faster every where on the steel mean machine.
  • + 4
 Bah, videos like this are annoying, they really upset my chain of thought that I need a 160mm bike to ride even 1/10th as fast....

Back on the hardtail I go for the winter, might try 'semi plus' size this year.
  • + 6
 he's faster on that damn hardtail than mike levy on his enduro bike.. (guess that's why he rides WCs though).
  • + 2
 Do it, HTs are fun.
  • + 2
 Don't do it,hardtails will snap yer back and give you farmers.
  • + 1
 @Racer951: farmer Giles..
  • + 1
 @Earthmotherfu: aah, already collected some of those...
  • + 1
 @Racer951: lost any height due to a compressed spine? Better put that in the mix..
  • + 1
 @Earthmotherfu: I find that it pushes my butt out which is all the rage nowadays
  • + 2
 Man, this bike looks amazing. Getting back to the roots of a great hardtail, but with great geo. I'd take a hardtail with great geo over a dual suspension with long chainstays and a steep headangle any day. My next bike will be a plus bike; I LOVE the 2.8 Minion and Rekons.
  • + 3
 Iv never owned a full suspension mountain bike, mostly because how much they cost, i feel like im missing out on something, but then Commencal has this beauty!
  • + 4
 Seat tube is well long on paper, 520mm on XL? With a 470 reach. No too short and square for me
  • + 3
 That hawaiian shirt looks acceptable enough to wear, which means it's not acceptable enough to wear. If it doesn't induce vomiting, it's not horrendous enough.
  • + 1
 Was looking at buying this bike, but went with the Norco Torrent HT 1. Has a dropper post (albeit a simple one), DVO Diamond forks, NX/GX mix for the groupset, Maxxis DHF and DHR 2.8's (could fit larger in the rear, but fork bridge on DVO would probably limit the front, but I'm not buying a larger tyre to try it out). Norco cockpit with 35mm x 800mm handlebars, Ergon GE1 grips as standard, chunky 40mm stem, and the finish on the frame is sexy as (photo's on Norco site don't do it justice).

Yes, it's more expensive than the Commencal, but the difference is less than if you added up the component price spec.

Oh, and it shreds. Smile
  • + 1
 The torrent is a cool bike too and another great bang for the buck. There are a few significant differences in geometry which will be noticeable riding back to back.

Torrent 66.5* HTA
Meta HTA 65*

Torrent STA 72-73* (Depending on size)
Meta STA 74*


I wonder what the weight of a torrent frame is?
  • + 1
 @sixstringsteve: Not sure on the frame weight alone, but the overall package is just over 14kg with the big tyres on.

Yes, the HTA and STA are different between the two, but DVO wins hands down over the Yari. I believe you could get that 1-deg on the HTA by putting the fork at 160mm travel. The Torrent has the DVO at 140mm from out of the box, but I believe that can be easily changed. However that would change the seat angle too.
  • + 0
 @handynzl: whats the point of having a hardtail if it's that heavy tho
  • + 1
 @mollow: It still motors. It's not a race whippet, and the Commencal here is the same(ish) weight. It's the wheels and tyres that add the weight, so I already have another wheelset (29") to swap to drop some weight. She's built tough, not slim Smile

Maybe I throw some carbon Renthals at it, and save another 50 grams there....
  • + 0
 Two things: 1) what's the weight of the frame? Alloy frames can either be carbon-competition-light or might-as-well-be-steel heavy. 2) 275x2.8 isn't anything special in terms of clearance, and neither is 29x2.4. If it could fit 29x2.6 and 275x3.25 I'd be all over it.
  • + 3
 frame weight is 2kg (4.4 lbs). Not carbon hardtail light, but not as heavy as steel. The cool thing is that they offer a steel model as well for those who want a more compliant ride.
  • + 2
 @sixstringsteve: That's pretty darn good for an alloy frame.
  • + 1
 I'm after a frame like that, but they lost me at boost. Same with Nukeproof. I don't blame the, I blame Trek and Sram a-holes and stupid people buying into this, using "no boost" as bargaining tool.
  • + 7
 Had the same issue here, in the end I gave up on finding a non boost frame and bought a disc rotor / hub spacer kit from eBay for £20 - it's not ideal as you have to re dish the wheel a few mm and can lose the axle spacer quite easily if you have a puncture on the trail but it's done the job
  • + 8
 Just run a Wolftooth Boostinator kit for $37 instead of buying a 148 hub (new wheelset) and you're good.
  • + 18
 Using Boost as a reasoning not to get a frame is stupid. It's like not buying a tapered headtube frame when you've got a straight steerer. There are so many easy and cheap way of converting old hubs to the newer standard it's just not a valid excuse. It backwards compatible.
  • + 3
 I just ordered a process 111 frame in part cause of stupid boost. I was thinking of a new frame next year, but jumped the gun cause there are almost no boostless bikes left out there, and I really like my 142 king hubs.
  • + 6
 I'm arguing all for boost marketing shenanigans. I was just able to buy a new in box 2016 S-Works Stumpjumper frame for around $1500. It's the same geometry as the current year except that it's non-boost. I also just bought a DVO Diamond to go on the front for $599. Non-Boost. There's no way I would have been able to afford either of those items except for a steep discount because of Boost and non-Boost bs.
  • + 2
 @MrMentallo: I just did the same thing. Got a great deal on an Evil Insurgent because it is "outdated". I have two bikes that are boost and the rest are normal. I don't really care either way.
  • + 1
 Last Fastforward... German, steel, sensible and slack. They also have a 135mm rear.
  • + 1
 @JesseE: That's a fair point when your hoops are more expensive than yoir frame.
  • + 5
 I hope prospective mountain bikers don't read the comments
  • + 2
 @fartymarty: Haha, totally. Got 25% off the Process frame, too! I guess what is important here is that we stay behind the times on tech to keep ahead of the curve on spending.
  • + 1
 Doublepost...
  • + 2
 @PHeller: How long does it take to swap the conversion kits in and out? I'd want to share the same carbon AM wheelset between this frame and my FS, so I'd have to take the conversion kit on and off each time. No use buying two wheelsets that fit the same purpose. Is it something you'd want to do 2-3times/week? That would be no big deal at all, if they're both not-boost. How much time would your method add?
  • + 1
 @TucsonDon: Depends which wheel and the tire clearance of each frame. If you've got lots of tire clearance, swapping the end caps on and off is a pretty quick process and no need to redish. If you're running huge tires in your boost frame, it might rub without a re-dish of the wheel. Some people have re-dished only slightly to use the same wheelset on seperated 142 and 148 frames. The only way to avoid this is to find a "centered" rear wheel adapter kits like those sold by MTBtools on ebay. Many of the front wheel adapter kits are already centered, no dishing required. Most end cap conversion kits are a pop-on/pop-off process, the rotor spacers take a bit of time (maybe 1-2 minutes with impact screwdriver).
  • + 1
 @JesseE: 111 is a great bike. I've been through a few bikes over the years. 153, Range, Wreckoning, etc... I will never get rid of the 111. The others are great bikes, but I don't consider them family. The 111 is family.
  • + 3
 Wish they would clear coat over the mud splashes on the top pic. That would be an epic colour scheme.
  • + 1
 Agreed. It looks better dirty than clean.
  • + 3
 Bring on the rowdy hardtails! We need more choices like this
  • + 2
 so sick! Commencal is definetly my top choice if im ever buying a new bike. awesome offering.
  • + 2
 always the best soundtracks from this guy and the bike just looks amazing...
  • + 3
 I love it when seat stays lineup with the top tube!
  • + 2
 wow, I want one. ugh. time to start saving! but not for that long since the price is so good!
  • + 3
 Two words: Dartmoor Hornet.
  • + 1
 Two words: Hell yes!
  • + 2
 Swinging for this, the On One Dee Dar (which is on sale) and the Sonder Transmitter. This one looks cool in the red
  • + 4
 Steel version?
  • + 1
 Yes please! A cromo version would be great!
  • - 1
 @bosnianrider:
Yeah, I know and its really nice, but it's the 2017 version (non-boost, non-plus, etc). I hope this new 2018 version will be available in cromo as well. Smile
  • + 1
 The 2018 steel version is still on a 142x12 non-boost spacing (see here: www.commencalusa.com/frame-meta-ht-am-crmo-650b-green-2018-c2x23712998 ).

Have a look at a NS Bikes eccentric cromo instead
www.ns-bikes.com/eccentric-cromo-29,122,pl.html
  • + 1
 Reminded me of Alex Rankins Earthed series with that song. Excellent vid, unreal bike for the money.
  • + 1
 The new Dartmoor Hornet is even cheaper and has the same capabilities. Still the Commencal is a great HT
  • + 1
 @ipop Cool, but why are they as heavy as my full-sus enduro/freeride bike? Otherwise I'd be interested
  • + 2
 Next bike purchase. Yup.
  • + 1
 Yeah me too
  • + 1
 Does the video count as a raw edit?????
  • + 2
 TAKE MY MONEY
  • + 1
 Come on... How not to love this brand?
  • + 1
 Dayyyum branny, nasty!! Rippin that thing!!!
  • + 1
 This or Nukeproof Scout. Hmm...
  • + 0
 harsh cable bend at the rear derailleur internal exit, especially on SRAM drives.
  • + 1
 Im ready to build one! My 10' TransAm is getting a little old
  • + 2
 damn
  • + 1
 the build kits seem pretty meh and crap, but at least the frame is solid.
  • + 9
 Possibly, but considering the price, they cut the corners in the right places. They have a great frame, great tires, and a decent fork for the price. Everything else will be cheap to swap out as it wears out, or as the owner wishes to upgrade. This bike reminds me of bikes from the 90s and early 2000s: great starting platform to modify as needed. This would be an excellent first bike for someone just getting into MTB.
  • + 1
 @sixstringsteve:
wish I could upvote you more than once
  • + 0
 @sixstringsteve: aye i get it, i'm just not a fan of low end sram parts, as they seem clunky and thrown together without much care.
  • + 1
 @sixstringsteve: good call. Exactly what I would do. Or just buy a frame ans build it outta spares you nick off your FS bike.
  • + 1
 Riding is fun almost on any bike, even more on super morzine
  • + 1
 That video reminds me of Peaty and Nigel Page in Earthed 3. Good fun.
  • + 1
 at least its got a threaded bb
  • + 1
 Rear brake mount IS? Why no post mount? Small gripe- looks awesome.
  • + 3
 You can always mount a PM caliper on an IS tab but not the other way around (unless you size up). Main reason probably is that it is much easier to produce accurately and cheaply.
  • + 1
 @vinay: I had to google it but IS calipers do exist! How dare they be backwards compatible with old tech! I like it.
  • + 1
 That was so metal.
  • + 1
 steeze!
  • + 1
 No steel!
  • + 2
 except they do have a steel one.
  • + 1
 @sixstringsteve: not a steel 29/plus/boost they don't
  • + 1
 HELL YEAH
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