Brothers Bike Check: Comparing Wyn and Ed Masters' Bikes - EWS Zermatt 2020

Aug 30, 2020
by Daniel Sapp  
We're back racing in Zermatt for the first round of a much abbreviated EWS season. While number of notable riders aren't in attendance due to the fact that travel is still quite challenging, brothers Wyn and Ed Masters are both in town, so it seemed like an opportune time to check out what setups they're both running.

While they're no doubt competitive with anyone on a bike, they're also quite competitive with each other as well. Matt DeLorme is on the ground in Zermatt and checked in with both Ed and Wyn about their setups and who's the better mechanic.


Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn Masters
Height 185 cm/ 6'1"
Weight Between 84 and 87kg / 185-191lbs
Instagram @wynmasters

Bike Details
Model GT Force
Frame Size Large
Wheel Size 29" / 27.5"
Suspension Fox 38 and Fox Float X2
Drivetrain & Brakes Shimano XTR
Cockpit RaceFace
Wheels & Rubber Stans ZTR Flow & Schwalbe

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Eddie Masters
Height 183cm / 6'
Weight 76kg / 168 lb
Instagram: @edmasters

Bike Details
Model Pivot Firebird
Frame Size Medium
Wheel Size 29"
Suspension Fox 38 and Fox Float X2
Drivetrain & Brakes Shimano XTR
Cockpit Renthal
Wheels & Rubber Reynolds & Maxxis

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
At 6'1" tall, Wyn runs a size large GT Force.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Only a touch shorter, Ed is on a size medium Pivot Firebird

bigquotesThe size medium surprises a lot of people but I've ridden both frames and the size large felt a bit like a boat. I'm running 29" wheels front and rear...none of that mullet business.Ed Masters

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
112psi, 3 tokens. 5HSR, 5LSR, 5HSC, 12LSC
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
100psi, 3 tokens and Jordi gets a lot of credit for a good suspension set-up.
Both are on very similar suspension set-up, running Fox all around.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
190-195psi, no tokens. 6HSR, 13LSR, 8HSC, 15LSC
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
160psi and maxed out on volume reducers.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
XTR Cranks all-around

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Shifting duties also handled by Shimano XTR. Ed runs a shorter cage derailleur and a 45-tooth cassette. He feels that the shorter cage is a little less susceptible to getting bent.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Braking?

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
You guessed it, both Wyn and Ed are using Shimano's XTR Trail brakes.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Both are running SPD pedals, Wyn is running Shimano's newer Saints.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Ed is more stuck in his ways and runs the classic Shimano DX.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn is on a Fabric saddle.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
And Ed is on the classic WTB Silverado.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
One trick Ed has is stashing a number of zip ties in his crank spindle...you can fix a lot on the side of the trail with a few zip ties.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Stan's ZTR Flow wheels. All aluminum for Wyn - he feels it's more reliable for enduro racing.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Ed opts for the carbon Reynolds.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn is on Stan's hubs.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Ed is rolling on Industry 9. hubs

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn is running a Schwalbe Magic Mary Super Gravity and no insert at 26 psi. Wyn favors a heavier and more durable set up than something lighter that could more easily be damaged.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Ed is on Maxxis tread, with a DHF on the front although many times he'll run the DHR II. 24psi.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Wyn opts for the titanium bottle cage.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
Schwalbe's Big Betty with a Super Gravity casing and a Cushcore. 28 psi.
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check
27 psi in a Maxxis Minion DHR II.

bigquotesI wouldn't know if Wyn fiddles with his bike more than me. I could hear his bike before and it didn't sound like it has been fiddled with for a long time. I know that he's a significantly worse mechanic than me...Ed Masters



119 Comments

  • 66 0
 Is there a mandatory balance of hair above the shoulders per family in NewZealand?
  • 47 0
 I think Ed Master‘ hair just separated from him at some point and grew another body which was then called Wyn
  • 4 0
 Wish I still had hair like that.. Wyn can I get a little. (Man getting old blows)
  • 7 0
 Ed I feel your pain. I have two brothers with a full head of hair and I’ve been pretty much bald since my early 20s
  • 33 0
 The most important fact for me is Ed is on a medium frame, dispelling the notion that bigger bikes are faster.
  • 13 0
 Sam hill and Richie rude also tend to prefer a smaller bike.
  • 7 1
 @ashmtb85: as does the Rat
  • 9 5
 I just love how we keep seeing bike checks with pro riders either their "chart size" or on size above and then when when ONE guy comes out with an undersized bike people start commenting right away "see! I was right, the pros are riding bikes on size down!!!!"
  • 4 4
 @Arierep: literally never happens. The vast majority of pro EWS and WC racers are on relatively small bikes.
  • 3 0
 I'm 5' 10" and parking-lot tested a large Firebird 29, it felt very long in the front end. Other than that the bike felt pretty comfortable, didn't seem like a DH sled or overly slack, pedaled nicely. I think a medium would be great.
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: I am 167 cm and went with a medium rallon. Next bike will definitely be a small.
  • 4 0
 @yupstate: I'm about an inch and a half taller. Went with the medium firebird 29. It is a very long bike and also likes a more forward riding position than other bikes I've ridden. I went to a 50mm stem and it's the best bike fit I've ever had. I feel like with the new longer sizing bike companies are going with along with (finally) shorter seat tubes to account for the added stack height of dropper posts a lot of the 5'10"-6' crowd that has always been in between sizes can have bikes that fit them better now. Coming from a L SB6 which was the best fit I could get out of that bike but was always slightly too long the M FB29 was just spot on.
  • 1 0
 It seems like a lot of companies are building longer frames. 6 foot tall is the in between point for a lot of bikes.
  • 19 1
 This is possibly the best racing bike check I've ever seen from a tech perspective. Love the comparison between setups.
  • 17 2
 I guess I'm the only muppet that didn't even twig they were brothers.
  • 12 1
 You new?
  • 9 1
 @Molesdigmyjumps:

Far from it. I just never put 2 & 2 together
  • 5 3
 Better late than never, huh?
  • 25 0
 @YanDoroshenko: Suppose so. The news isn't exactly life changing for me.
  • 49 0
 @jlawie: Wait 'til you hear about Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez. ;-)
  • 32 1
 @jlawie: Yo in the interest of communication, Dan Atherton, Rachael Atherton, & Gee Atherton : Are siblings. Meanwhile Tarnee Seagrave it turns out, is related to Kaos Seagrave, By way of being brother & Sister. This may come as a shock
  • 38 0
 @dkendy1: Next you’re going to tell me the Hannahs are related. Or that Matt Walker is two different people, and not, in fact, a shapeshifter as first reported.
  • 9 0
 @leifgren: WTF? It's not the same Matt Walker?
  • 1 0
 Im with ya!
  • 3 0
 @dkendy1:

Think you mean Tahnée.
  • 5 0
 @jlawie: I suspect that @dkendy1 might be a secret American or is using the North Carolina spellchecker.
  • 3 2
 @dkendy1:

Oh and Rachel.

3 out of 5 ain't bad
  • 1 0
 @commental: ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 I’m with you.. took me a couple of years before I did. Really not sure why, you can definitely see the resemblance despite the hair disparity.
  • 13 0
 Rumor has it, the Gehrig twins are sisters.
  • 2 0
 @PNdubRider: NO... f*ck*ng... WAY!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 @PNdubRider: But are they related? Sorry, this is an inside joke between my twin brother and myself. We have actually been asked those exact questions before, in that order (are you brothers? and then, are you related?).
  • 1 0
 @dkendy1: By my count thats an x2 shock..... i will get my coat
  • 12 1
 I feel like if your pro racers have to stuff your damper full of volume reducers, then your rear suspension design just needs to be made more progressive... This also echoes my feelings from owning a Firebird. I experimented with full volume reducers, but ended on 3, otherwise the bike took so much energy to move around.
  • 27 23
 @PAmtbiker: the stronger you are the more progressive you can run it.

The average mtb'er is a middle aged douche' that cant squat his own bodyweight. More linear keeps that badass from collapsing into the bike.
  • 10 0
 @Grosey: hey, I resemble that remark! Smile
  • 2 0
 My experience with the 27.5 Firebird was that the shock came with a light tune. Even the XL frame. I couldn't get HSC feeling right until I got a custom firm tune for the mid valve piston and started setup fresh. Surely Eddie is using a custom shock though..
  • 4 2
 @Grosey: funny how this get's downvoted. The number of neg props is proof you're right.
  • 6 2
 @Grosey: who you calling douche, douche?
  • 2 0
 @Muckal: it does seem like that sometimes!
  • 6 1
 I think another thing to notice that he has it stuffed full of reducers but is 168 lbs riding 160 psi on an X2. In the grand scheme of things for a pro racer that's a pretty low pressure especially for a pro racer and could explain part of the maxed out on spacers.
  • 7 0
 @grldm3: shhhh you're interrupting the progressive suspension circle jerk!
  • 1 0
 @4thflowkage: no spacers used here, front or rear, no homo
  • 1 0
 I tested one. Even with climb switch on and full compression damping it wollowed in its travel. Stucked to climb over my ripmo due to the real active suspension. Beautiful bike but just felt a little under welmed by it. Rattly cables in the frame, bottle mount, there were too much niggles for a bike with a pretty silly asking price.
  • 15 0
 That poor DHR2.
  • 3 2
 What travel?
  • 49 0
 @Fat4242: most DHR2's are 160 travel. Some are 190 and a few over 200.
  • 4 0
 DH casing and soft rubber, that's how it goes.
  • 3 1
 That's completely roached. I figured a pro rider would be booting some fresh rubber for race day
  • 7 0
 Unpopular opinion alert: Maxxis DHF and DHR II treads look pretty retro compared to the Assegai and Dissector or some of the new patterns from Vittoria or Schwalbe. Those old patterns are still going strong and new compounds are making them better, but you can see how tire design has really evolved in twenty years.
  • 11 0
 Haha that jab about how noisy Wyn's bike is. Legit concern though, why are the GTs so loud? Wyn's and Kmetz' bikes sound like a dryer full of wrenches being rolled down a flight of stairs.
  • 32 2
 I think the correct phrase if I remember it correctly is "louder than a skeleton wanking off inside a biscuit tin". Most commonly heard around British dudes when discussing Orange bikes.
  • 3 1
 @CONomad: amazing. That description is so much better than mine!
  • 3 0
 I think most of the brands today use OEM rubber grooved chain protectors, while GT has none. Uber fail from the brand. It also has an alloy chainstay that doesn't help. While I don't own a Force, my Sanction is pretty quiet. but I worked on that.
  • 2 0
 @CONomad: these guys need to use a bit of rubber and the noise will go down. Works with Oranges too.
  • 4 0
 You haven't heard loud until you've heard an older orange when the swing arm was one peice, and there were no clutch mechs
  • 1 0
 @CONomad: an old metal garbage can full of rocks and glass bottles thrown out of a third story window...
  • 13 0
 Zip ties in the spindle is perhaps the best on-bike storage trick out there.
  • 7 1
 I'd be afraid of them falling out and littering the trail. How secure can that be? Once you remove one to use, the bundle gets loose.
  • 6 0
 @SkullsRoad: When you fold them in half the press to the inside of the spindle, counted them after a few rides and never had one falling out. Plus, the more you put in, the better they stay in.
  • 1 0
 @SkullsRoad: very secure. As the other guy said, fold them in half, I've never lost one.
  • 5 1
 @SkullsRoad: u just gotta have more under ur helmet to replace the one u take from the spindle to keep the stack tight... Its all in the name of enduro bruh..
  • 7 1
 So Eddie now got a new fan for his "no long vessels allowed" policy
  • 8 3
 I'm only here for the comments; How can someone 6' possibly ride a medium?
  • 12 3
 @74NZ: ITS ONLY 455MM REACH HOW DOES HE NOT CRASH AND DIE ON THE FIRST STEEP SECTION
  • 10 0
 @74NZ: Ed's comment is a great start - "I wouldn't know if Wyn fiddles with his bike more than me. I could hear his bike before and it didn't sound like it has been fiddled with for a long time. I know that he's a significantly worse mechanic than me..." :-D
  • 3 0
 @74NZ: Fer real. I'm 5'11" and demo'd the Firebird L for a few days and it felt perfect. And I'm certainly someone who's not a huge fan of having a LARGE feeling bike. Would have thought for sure Ed would be on a size L. But he certainly knows what's up for pedals, Shimano DX for gravity riding are perfect, don't @ me.
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad: I'm a tall 5'11" and ride a medium firebird 29er. Swapped stems for a 50mm renthal and it is the best fit I've ever had on a bike. Came from a large sb6.
  • 4 0
 @74NZ: deepfakes are outta control.
  • 6 0
 @notsofastoverfifty: I can't remember what video I was recently watching, but Wyn's bike creaked like crazy LOL.
  • 2 0
 @74NZ: Fast, that's how. He would have won the series last year if not for the Northstar mishap.
  • 3 0
 @Ryan2949: that's not the bike, that Wyn creaking. Eek
  • 3 0
 @74NZ: I’m 6’3” and rode a medium Enduro Expert with Shermans on the front for a couple of years. Lots of steeps and features (was living in BC) so felt good to ride a bike I could toss away at a moment’s notice. In that context it made sense for me and worked well. Couldn’t see myself racing on something of that size though. I believe the Firebird is a pretty big feeling bike, though, based on feedback from a friend who also rode a medium and typically rides a large in other bikes.
  • 1 0
 Another article that shows that frame sizing remains one of the biggest variables in biking. Only 1” difference in height between these guys and yet one rides a large, the other a medium.
I’m 5’3” and went from a small Orange Alpine 6 to a medium Transition Patrol, which surprises people, but then, Transitions size up a little smaller.
Just goes to show that you have to go for what feels comfortable and right for you.
  • 3 0
 The Masters brothers run the Illuminati. It is even in their family name. They are the true Masters of the Earth.
  • 3 0
 Define fiddling, wait, don't.
  • 4 0
 wait, they're brothers?
  • 2 0
 I didn’t realize I could upgrade from 10 speed and keep a short cage RD. Which model and cassette to get?
  • 2 0
 XTR mid cage
  • 2 1
 Its all in the details: Wyn must be running his Mary up front in DH casing, since its the Ultrasoft rubber. Not available in SuperGravity...unfortunately.
  • 2 0
 Yes it is.
  • 2 0
 Factory sponsored rider - what he has access to and what you can buy are totally different.
  • 1 0
 @andrewbikeguide: anyone can buy purple Mary’s. I’ve got one on my hardtail right now.
  • 1 0
 Tire pressure without saying what casing is nearly meaningless. I’m assuming DH but never know. Wyn on SG front is interesting
  • 2 0
 swiss francs, not euro, .. you must wynn much more!!
  • 2 0
 OCD triggered: Wyn's saddle is twisted to the left.
  • 1 0
 How is it that i weight also 88kg and use 260 psi on that same shock for 30%sag and on a very progressive bike?
  • 1 0
 Do you also have an x2? It varies widely depending on shock.
  • 2 1
 Clicks described from full closed (more clicks more open)?
  • 7 2
 Describing from full closed is more accurate, especially when comparing different brands/models of shocks and forks. Fully closed is more of an absolute, "fully open" can technically be different levels of "openness" from shock to shock.
  • 7 0
 @matmattmatthew: I wouldn't have thought fully closed is any more definitive between brands than fully open. Fully closed is not lockout on these shocks or forks.
  • 1 0
 @ColquhounerHooner: The compression adjustment is essentially a valve. When any valve is closed that "should" be a constant no matter how big or small the valve is. Depending on the size of the valve and the viscosity of the fluid, "fully Open" can vary wildly from shock to shock. When Dyno testing shocks (MTB/Moto/Car) they always start from fully closed when making adjustments. I learned this from a suspension engineer for BMW, and it was confirmed when I spoke with Darren from Push Industries a few years ago.
  • 2 0
 Who’s oldest?
  • 2 0
 Shimano DX ... Classic
  • 4 4
 Wyn runs more pressure up front than the rear? 29 psi seems really high.
  • 18 0
 typo i think
  • 2 3
 While Wyn is clearly a better rider than me and must know what he is doing, I cannot for the life of me rationalize that tire pressure set up, haha! Wonder why he hasn’t gone for a CushCore in the front and then drop the pressure?
  • 7 0
 @eblackwell: think it’s a typo. PB got the winner of the California Enduro wrong in the title so it’s really not a surprise.
  • 15 0
 @mikekazimer: 29inch wheel front and 27.5rear
  • 28 0
 @mikekazimer: I run 26 psi front 28psi rear
  • 5 1
 NO. It says he runs 27 up front and 29 in the rear
  • 22 1
 @wynmasters, thanks! That's been corrected. Now go get some rest - you've got to ride some weird Euro turns in the rain tomorrow.
  • 35 0
 @mikekazimer: cheers man luckily its raining, slippery euro turns are easier to turn!
  • 6 0
 @wynmasters: Good luck and much fun!
  • 7 0
 @mateo5: lol, yeah you tell the dude who's bike it actually is how it's setup lol
  • 2 21
flag Alias530 (Aug 29, 2020 at 16:30) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: PB doesn’t proof read their articles before posting. Or if someone does they need to be fired because I’ve never read an article without at least one typo. It’s actually really damaging to the legitimacy of the sport.
  • 19 1
 @Alias530: How dare they totally ruin your mountain bike media experience. Completely unacceptable. Pinkbike should be cancelled. Start the petition. For the price we pay to be members of this website a typo is just unacceptable.
  • 4 0
 @NorCalNomad: Haha it does look like I'm telling Wyn his tire pressure...but no, my reply was to another user who asked why he ran 29 up front and 27 in the back.
  • 4 0
 @wynmasters: Your hair pressure is spot on.
  • 2 0
 @Alias530: Hey, when ur at that 40k pb salary - U aint proof readin shiat!
  • 1 0
 @ljohnst88: just saying every other publication out there (bike radar, mtbr, bike rumor, cycling tips, etc) isn’t riddled with typos.
  • 1 0
 @mateo5: tell Wyn that, I believe he’s standing behind you.
  • 3 0
 @endlessblockades: imagine the hair pressure fitting all that hair into that tiny helmet!
  • 2 0
 @SoddenDeath: a bit personal Eek
  • 3 3
 So Masters is on the new rear fox, but Maes isn't?
  • 1 0
 @hammcheez: would bet the insides of maes X2 look really different than off the shelf. Im pretty sure his link on the 275 is different than stock as well.
  • 2 1
 Pivot win
  • 1 1
 If I run 26psi either front or rear feels like riding on a flat tire..

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