Video: Burgtec Launch New 50mm Rise Josh Bryceland Signature Ride High Handlebar

Apr 20, 2021
by Burgtec Limited  

Press release: Burgtec Limited

It’s fair to say high-rise bars have taken a back seat over the last decade much in part to the increasing wheel sizes pushing up front ends of bikes and riders trying to match their previous riding positions.

After first coming to us a little over 3 years ago and deciding on the 38mm rise bar Josh wanted to quite literally raise the bar once again.

Ride High Josh Bryceland Signature Alloy Handlebar:

• Width: 800mm
• Rise: 50mm
• Available in 35mm clamp only.
• Backsweep: 9°
• Upsweep: 5°
• Weight: 391g
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Also available in 38mm rise.

We’d previously prototyped the 50mm bar alongside the 38s but at the time just felt they looked out of place. With more riders moving towards 29ers we felt the market just wasn’t ready for them.

Josh quickly adapted to the 38s but still felt he was running a lot of stack on his bikes. So with more frequency, he was popping in to Burgtec HQ asking if we had any of 50mm rise bars left.

In the end, we ran out of prototype bars and Rat's a very persuasive guy so we just decided to go into production with the 50s.

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For Josh, he loves how the higher rise allows for more maneuverability as well as getting rid of the excess stack height. Plus, being a taller rider, they keep his weight where he wants it and freely admits “it’s easier on my back”. The bars are a natural fit for jump bikes but as Josh and the boys show they are equally at home on bigger travel trail bikes too.

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109 Comments
  • 170 3
 Im suprised it isn't 42.0mm high
  • 65 5
 happy 420 btw
  • 11 0
 Had to specifically log in on foreign computer to comeback and give props.
  • 31 0
 All toking aside, does anyone know if these are good bars.
  • 3 1
 @Vudu74: the ride wides are so good , so i'd wager yes
  • 2 0
 @Vudu74: I use ridewide 30mm rise on one bike and truvativ descendant on another and the ride wides are far superior. Comfortable and feel stronger also have a really nice tough finish. Highly recommend
  • 2 0
 Low-n-slow...username checks out
  • 1 0
 @Vudu74:
  • 112 1
 "For Josh, he loves how the higher rise allows for more maneuverability as well as getting rid of the excess stack height " + a photo with 50mm bars and like 30mm of spacers below stem Wink
Truth is, for enduro and general gravity riding, most current bikes have silly low stack, even 29ers, not to mention 27.5. Companies use this to cheat on reach, they create bike with 610mm stack ans 490mm reach and call it super progressive, but in reality after adding the lacking 30mm of stack this get more like 470 reach ... Bike media happily ignore stack values when they compare bike reach and everyone is happy except the consumer.
  • 24 1
 It’s also always puzzling to see a bike with the same length headtube and stack across all sizes. At 6’2” tall I’m pretty sure I will require a higher stack than someone who’s 5’6” tall.
Then as said above to get the right stack the reach gets shortened.
  • 8 0
 I am here with you. I am not a big fan of crazy low stack heights on frames. Especially on L+ sizes. I think very few riders benefit from them even though some riders do ride with zero spacers and sraight bars (on L-XL ultra low stack bikes) but it's very small minority. ....would be an interesting poll, btw to see the heights riden: crown to handlebar(grip) stack. Except the possibility to run a very low cockpit, ultra low stack heights have only negatives regarding frame and bearing stresses (longevity).
  • 4 5
 Stack and Reach are just numbers to calculate the "spread" with (a²) + (b²) = (c)². My prefered Spread is 795 mm at 5.10 heigth with 50mm stem and 760mm bars, thats the only way to do it. I can somewhat understand the stupidly low stacknumber- you can only spacerup and not spacerdown. But the 605mm stack on my 27.5 enduro in large is just that -stupid.
  • 3 0
 You are so right. My XL 275 Enduro is silly low in the front. It came with a cut steerer and 20mm rise bars.. I'm on 38mm rise now but could so with more. A longer dropper post has helped me get down a bit on steep descents but the front is still XC low.
  • 4 9
flag betsie (Apr 20, 2021 at 4:07) (Below Threshold)
 It allows riders who like a lower front end to be taller riders.
As a rider who rides a low (not by 10 years ago standards but low by 29er standards) front end, I appreciate lower stack, also allows for other bike preferences too (like running old school softer front ends).
Most people who get on my bike are like... omg your front end is so low. Yup it is, I am old school and like to feel connected to the trail and not miles away from it, helps weight the front too for my bad technique.
  • 12 16
flag justwaki (Apr 20, 2021 at 4:08) (Below Threshold)
 There is no reach conspiracy here. Companies make low stacks to please casual MTBers who are more into XC and want lowest bar position possible for comfortable climbing. They are the majority. These people read cyclingnews.com more than Pinkbike and their peers who have stems with 25 negative rise on their main bikes will never appreciate handling properties of a high bar. These are the people who get bike fit done for 160 bikes. Or would never tell a difference in reach anyways. Not disrespecting them, just stating that people who are sensitive to 2cm decrease in reach are the minority. Especially tall people are the minority. I feel for you but... At the same time it is easier to add spacers and bar rise than it is to make too short head tube and not have this possibility... even though structurally it is a worse solution
  • 22 2
 Pick a stack height and be a dick about it
  • 7 0
 Some people like low stacks. Especially w/ big ape index.

Moderation is great, bur super hard to market.
  • 1 0
 @justwaki: ya but those guys don't buy 170mm enduro bikes, or do they?
  • 8 4
 @Grosey: I think companies should simply start advertising "tall people specific" bikes more than "women specific" bikes. Maybe a separate geo chart for tall people. I get it that for all those years tall people were left out with too small bikes and 2-3 degree slacker actual seat angles but this is getting out of hand... i don't see a single visionaire, geofluencer like Chris Porter or Leo K who is shorter than 180cm. I am happy they came along and kicked the industry in the butt. Damn... make bikes for tall people so that shorties and NORMAL people can freaking sleep well that there is nothing wrong with their seat angle and God damn reach Big Grin
  • 2 6
flag justwaki (Apr 20, 2021 at 5:44) (Below Threshold)
 @headshot: yes they do. if you sit by lake Garda, the mecca of Euro XC Marathon, you'll see many folks on these. You can tell by their position on the bike, they aren't the sendiest tools in the shed. Same in trail centers in Poland. Plenty of long travel bikes on Schwalbe SS sidewalls that go to pieces if they rode rough trails at speed.
  • 5 2
 More or less "silly" just depends on individual preference. I love a lower bar, it gives me a more involved control of the front. How low it gets, just depends on when the shifters touch the frame. A low headtube has actually been a positive factor for frame selection due to this. Now, you are surely entitled to your preferences, but the points you raise don't make a lot of sense in my opinion. The frame geometries are out out there, you can choose based on that, there's no cheating. If you need a bigger reach because you run a lot of spacers or for whatever reason, get a frame with a bigger reach. But even in this, I think you make a false point. More important than reach for how a bike fits your body, is the distance from the bottom bracket to the grips, and this increases with added spacers. So based on this, you could even get a frame with a smaller reach than usual, knowing that you will increase the BB-grips distance with the added spacers. So you make false points all around.
  • 2 0
 There is another thing with the stack hight.
Different type of measurement. It's not an Standard so some measure it from the center of the BB and others from the wheel axle hight. So what should it be? My current way bigger bike has on paper same stack hight. Reality is that it is lower because different measurements.
  • 1 0
 I'm happy. And I'm a consumer.
  • 2 1
 @DavidGuerra: While I agree with the first half of your comment, i am not so sure about the second half. With adding spacers you shorten reach and increase stack, not much to gain here. I switch spacers around a lot and always feel a bike gets smaller by adding spacers. I will measure it but as i said, i dont think you can make a bike significantly bigger by adding spacers.
  • 6 9
 @optimumnotmaximum: man your reach gets shorter by like 18mm if you add 4cm of spacers. We’re splitting hair here. You change bars from Renthals to SQlab and you have even more change in grip position.This is not even a first world problem, especially to a tall person. Unless you want to win who has the longest reach, most contemporary geo competition! Again those geopolitical discussions are just delusional. What do you propose? A geo chart with different numbers depending on nr of spacers and handlebar height? Try that. Sorry.
  • 1 2
 @justwaki: huh? i replied to @DavidGuerra, saying that adding spacers does not change size by much, i dont get your comment tbh. Just ad "spread" to geochart -done. Or dont, i can do the maths myself.
  • 1 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: the pythagorean theorum only works when working with a right angle. I don’t get how it applies to this situation.
  • 1 2
 @optimumnotmaximum: Well, just look at DH bikes. Why do they normally have a smaller reach than other bikes? Because the front section is higher, reducing the reach for a given BB-grips distance. And this is the important factor, the fit is just as good, there is no magic reach number to chase.
  • 1 0
 @OldDert: I have it from one of the "Vorsprung" vids ( Advanced Geometry 2 ) and thought (still think) it makes sense. Reach and Stack are rightangled to each other so you should be able to calculate the hypothenuse which ist the distance between the middle of the bb and the middle of the top of the headtube. Thats basically the size of your fronttriangle.
  • 4 7
 @headshot: The longer travel you have at the front, the lower stack you can run. So, fork travel doesn't relate to it in the way you suggest. In addition, a lower stack actually improves the attack position. A higher bar improves the ability to lift the front, it can make riding less tiring, and it can give you added leverage for bunny hops, jumps and the like, but for control in technical situations, a lower bar is actually better (unlike what a lot of people think!).
  • 1 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: that makes sense. I was thinking about a triangle laying horizontally with 2 points at the ends of the bars and third at seat directly above the post. Thanks for clarifying.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: Thats what i am trying to say: reach on its own is pointless you have to consider (at least) also stack. In case of DH bikes, their stack is not much higher than the stack on long travel 29er trailbikes, which is because of the lower ac of dualcrownforks (Canyon Sender L: Stack; 632mm ; Banshe Titan L: 644mm). Adding spacers and barwidth to the calculation is not a good thing to do, even though some though i was advocating for this.
  • 1 0
 @OldDert: stack and reach are defined 90 degrees apart. The "spread" is basically the diagonal between BB and top of head tube.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: sense
  • 1 0
 Isn't the stack height simply the result of the headtube angle and headtube length? Can you effectively adjust stack without altering these numbers? Perhaps this is why it is ignored. Head tubes can't be too long, as it will require longer steerer tubes, so the result is spacers and rider bars to adjust effective stack. Quoting effective reach at various positions (much like STA at various positions) might be beneficial, although most people don;t really understand what each metric translates to anyway...... me included maybe.
  • 1 0
 @sspiff: got it. My confusion was thinking of stack in the front of the bike instead of sliding it back to intersect the back end of the reach measurement to make the triangle you describe.
  • 1 0
 nm
  • 35 0
 No coincidence this article gets released today
  • 12 15
 Hahahahhaha! May heave been yesterday too. It was a Bicycle Day Smile Depends what high you are into.

I love Burgtec now. I am sold! That’s a brand I can get behind. It may be pricey and unoriginal but they have sense of humor.
  • 1 0
 @justwaki:

-"it may be pricey and unoriginal but they have a sense of humor"

Love this!
  • 11 0
 As a tall rider it’s nice to have another higher rise bar to choose from. I’ve been using the Spank Spike Race 800 with a 50mm rise for a few years.
  • 2 0
 Still do
  • 4 1
 superb bar, cut down to 760mm if you are not a Viking -done. Oh wait. have you seen Brages bar ? -thats 760mm at best.
  • 7 0
 Same here @DH1977 and I love em, though I run the Vibrocore, so not only do they solve the problems I was having with vibrations bringing up old whitefinger from my tree surgeon days, they look great and that 50mm rise feels good and gives just a little extra compliance. Amazing bars:

spank-ind.com/products/spike-800-vibrocore%E2%84%A2-bar?variant=43663808653

My bike Wink
www.pinkbike.com/photo/19096632
  • 2 0
 Same here... Not a lot of choice for tall riders : I found the Chromag FU50 too...
  • 4 0
 @NoEnclumeSVP: spank, chromag, sq lab, deity, pro taper, enve, gusset, reverse, tag, and now burgtec, all carry 38-50 rise. I've been on the high rise train for a while now and I'm always on the hunt for new options. Check em out!
  • 2 0
 You guys need to get your hands on the pro taper 76mm rise bar. I run them on three of my four bikes. They’re amazing.
  • 3 0
 At 6'6" I went all in for a 3" (76mm) Pro Taper Answer bar. Gets comments, but I love it.
  • 3 0
 @Afterschoolsports: @Gristle: I been eyeing those. I'm only 6'3". I keep raising my bars and it only feels better..
  • 2 0
 @Coldspringer: do it. You won’t regret it. I’m 2” taller than you and couldn’t live without it. I run it on my long travel bike, as well as my trail, and DJ bikes.
  • 1 0
 Ditto. Been Using the Spank Spike 800 50mm for like seven years now. Been through a few different bars. There is also the Deity Highside but it doesn't come in 800 width.
  • 1 0
 @landscapeben: If you want to go further with the finger issue I recommend trying RevGrips. I reckon they increased by downhill runs from about 4 to 8 (for when arm / hand pump set in). The vibrocore bars I didnt notice anywhere near the same difference, if any.
  • 1 0
 @speedyjonzalas: thanks mate, I'll give them a look up, I have extra sized Ergon grips right now which certainly helped a lot. I've also wondered about those meaty paws, you tried them? Always on the lookout to improve for me and a couple of mates though thanks Beer
  • 2 0
 @speedyjonzalas: try push on grips. I’m running ODI longnecks in the ST compound. They do what Rev grips do only better and you can pick them up for around $10 online. Just use spray paint so they don’t slip.
  • 9 0
 Ride High!
  • 3 0
 I am riding those Superstar handlebars (I got 3 of them on different bikes) with 40mm rise, but they don't sell them anymore.

Nukeproof had nice purple handlebars (I bought their purple stem), but they stopped them after a year:

nukeproof.com/collections/components-handlebars/products/neutron-v2-alloy-riser-bar
  • 4 0
 Not surprised on this one. A higher stack feels way more comfortable to me for jumps etc. Way easier to feel more neutral on the bike. Plus who wants to run a massive gooseneck of spacers anyway.
  • 3 0
 Motocross dialed in geometry a while back. Never owned a dirtbike that cam with a low-rise bar. And when I strip 'er down she wildly long and slack. And I do agree with Josh's comment "it's easier on my back". Especially on the climbs i dont go home feeling like a hunch back.

If you want to dial in your geo.....look at a dirtbike.
  • 4 0
 Seems like some sort of relationship between climbing saddle height and bar height would make sense. At 6'6", I'm envious of the riders who's saddles are level with their bars or even below.
  • 5 0
 Ride high bars ! Now that's my kinda handlebar , cause I'm always high on me bike bahaha
  • 4 0
 Funny that no one has really noted that he allegedly wanted the 50 to begin with, it was just not cool at the time. What a joke all the MTB trendista bullshit is.
  • 1 0
 I've got a deity 50mm rise 760mm wide bar on my size large 450mm reach patrol and it feels great. I'm 5 10. On my 450mm hardtail I run same 40mm stem but only a 30mm rise 760 wide bar. That feels even better. Glad to see another high rise option but I like what I've got.
  • 1 0
 I cut my steer tube too short and cant run spacers under my stem so i have to run my 35mm rise deity speedway hella low on my bike. Im wondering if these taller bars would get my bars up better since i literally can not add spacers. My stem is slammed onto my headset with no spacers below or on top.
  • 2 0
 I run Reverse brand 40mm rise bars with 12° sweep. If these came with that much sweep, I would definitely give them a try. As an old BMX’er with bad wrists, I’ve found I need the extra sweep for it not to hurt.
  • 1 0
 Man I wish you could get them with a lot more backsweep and a bit more upsweep..

Right now I use a SQ labs bar with 16deg backsweep and it’s THE most amazing feeling I ever experienced.
Now whenever I buy a new bike I need to add these handlebars, but always wished for even a bit more rise..

Now my problem is, I’m in the process of buying a Santa Cruz Heckler which comes with the amazing Santa Cruz Carbon bars with internal cable routing.
Yes these bars are super nice and tidy but I really don’t know how to get all the wires out there without getting problems with the electronics, but I really want the 16deg backsweep back!
I even think of installing my aluminum SQ labs bars and drilling two small holes in them to keep the internal cable routing.
Even if this means a weight penalty on the front, but I don’t dare to drill holes in the Carbon version of the sq labs bars.
I don’t know how it would mess with the structural integrity of the carbon and the second thing is that they are crazy expensive and I don’t want to buy them, let alone ruin them with holes..
  • 10 5
 Ride High - I approve!
  • 2 0
 As a taller rider, I do like a higher rise bar! My 40mm are great, but if they ever have any issues... think I'll look into these Cool
  • 3 0
 I'd like to see a flat bar with a stem that achieves the same overall height of this. Just for shiz and gigs.
  • 2 1
 Easy. Just buy a new fork, don't cut the steerer, and run like 60-80mm worth of stem spacers. Pick your favorite dorky flat bar and you're done!
  • 3 0
 @SkullsRoad: Not quite the same - you'll lose a bunch of reach this way, which won't happen whacking on a tall bar.
  • 6 3
 391 grams, thats mine two times. absolutely unrideable
  • 6 0
 I get that you're joking, but you've got me thinking: how does the weight penalty of this bar compare to the weight penalty of steerer tube length and spacers?

Sure there other advantages to each (longer steerer allows for easier buying/selling/swapping of used forks with cut steerers and high rise bars allow for more adjustment in the effective geo of the bike by rotating them fore/aft). But it'd be interesting to see which solution is lighter.
  • 1 1
 @big-red: you cant go higher, its to heavy

I guess longer steerer is lighter. or having a 50 handlebar made by beast 182gr with matching 30mm stem 80gr.
but intended use by the rat is probably against carbon handlebars.
i would like a 40 carbon bar with a super light stem.
whole argument makes very much sense to me
  • 5 2
 Wish they made stems and bars in 31.8
  • 3 2
 Actually they do lol
  • 2 0
 @Ashe14: not the mk5 or ride highs mate
  • 2 1
 yeah id have bought the 40's if they came in 31.8 just to eliminate all those spacers. alas i had to settle for the ridewide 30's
  • 1 0
 @blackjack88: been using some 31.8 Chromag FU40 for the last few years, much prefer them to my ratboy 38s
  • 2 0
 @Ashe14: availability is almost zero.... I was looking
  • 1 0
 For the last few years Dartmoor were the only company that made a 50mm rise in a 35mm clamp. Nice to at least have two options in the market now.
  • 2 0
 Ta Da, i use +6 stem And riser bar on L sized frame, high rize bars make. Lot of sense with crazy low stack frames
  • 2 0
 Needs a 7 degree back sweep and I'd go for it. Renthal fat bar 40mm with 7 deg sweep is so good.
  • 2 0
 Managed to get some already. They feel great!
  • 1 0
 Good to see. Always liked high rise bars and have struggles over the last few years, top load stems help.
  • 1 0
 Lower stack heights = higher riser bars? When will we get options to run ape hangers?
  • 1 0
 I'm 6'5" tall on an XL Ragley Big Al - I ride with Chromag FU50 bars, so much better than the standard 25mm risers!
  • 1 0
 That's a case against short head tubes not credit to the bars.
  • 1 0
 @alexsin: A longer head tube is no different to having a longer steerer tube, both of which reduce the reach.
  • 1 0
 Trails look good, where was it filmed?
  • 2 0
 www.havokbikepark.com
  • 1 0
 @thingswelike: thanks Wink they must have forgot to credit the park in the video.
  • 1 0
 "Cock the hammer, it's time for action!"
  • 1 0
 I still have people trying to roast me for running 38s?
  • 1 0
 Should be the Brage Vestavik signature model.
  • 1 0
 Are used to ride Hightower for the syndicate if I’m not mistaken
  • 1 1
 Shikra handlebar has 55mm:

www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001706894282.html
  • 3 0
 Yeano, I love me some Aliexpress, but not riding no-name Aliexpress handlebars, because I like my teeth.

These have no testing/certification process in place, no recourse if you get injured, and they're made out of a weldable alloy (weaker) with no heat treat specified. Hopefully the extra 100g of weight will make up for some of that.
  • 1 0
 those look dope as brother I just ordered 5
  • 1 0
 Higher stack height is much more enduro bro.
  • 1 0
 they should have used faze o riding high for the soundtrack
  • 1 0
 Don't do drugs, smoke a plant.
  • 1 0
 Boom!
  • 1 0
 FREEMX, sick Big Grin \m/
  • 1 2
 Where the f*ck has Josh Bryceland gone?!!!
  • 1 2
 Dont do drugs kids
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