BYB Telemetry Want to Make World Cup Suspension Tech Available to Anyone

Dec 14, 2018
by Mike Kazimer  
BYB Telemetry

Data acquisition has become a familiar buzzword on the World Cup DH circuit, and every season more and more riders seem to be taking practice laps with their bikes covered in wires and sensors intended to monitor exactly how their bike is performing, with most of the focus directed at the suspension.

BYB Telemetry, a small Italian company, are hoping to make that same technology available to more than just the top professionals. Their telemetry system works with any fork or shock, no matter if it's air- or coil-sprung, and uses an accelerometer, gyroscope, and a GPS to keep tabs on the suspension's behavior.

The data can be viewed on a smartphone or a computer, with different levels of analysis available depending on how much guidance the user is looking for. The system can detect whether the shock is packing down or bottoming out too easily, the amount of static and dynamic sag, the maximium and average compression and rebound speed, and more.

BYB's goal may be to make telemetry more attainable, but it's still not cheap. Early backers of the Kickstarter campaign receive a discount, but the full retail price is expected to be €1599. That will likely put it out of reach for most recreational riders, but it's foreseeable that teams or shops will purchase a unit to share between riders.


BYB Telemetry

Press Release: BYB Telemetry

BYB Telemetry detects the motion of the suspension and other dynamic parameters of the MTB while riding. It allows everyone to visualize the movement of the suspension, thereby making it possible for everyone to base the setting on quantitative information instead of feelings. Through an analysis app, it tells how to tune the knobs of your suspension to provide the perfect set-up, according to the needs of the rider and the track characteristic.

Enrico Rodella, the co-founder of BYB Telemetry, engineer and downhill instructor, explained: “Everyone would like to have a bike that can go smoothly through a technical section, like the ones of the World Cup top riders. Unfortunately, this bliss is only for a few fortunate people. In reality, most of us struggle just in finding a decent suspension set-up. We designed BYB Telemetry because we want to give an intuitive and easy-to-use product for getting the best out my bike.”

BYB Telemetry

BYB Telemetry is similar to the telemetry system used in the UCI World Cup circuit by the factory teams, with which we share the same sensors (Specialized Factory Team). It has been developed in the racing environment, with the aim of maximize the performance and overcoming the limits of the communication between the rider and the technician. It was used by Enrico (the co-founder) in the race that proclaimed him as Italian downhill amateur champion.

BYB telemetry also provides the best suspension set-up for amateur riders. With the power of the data, everyone can visualize the behavior of the suspension. Having data instead of sensations can drastically speed up the process of finding the perfect suspension set-up, maximizing the speed, comfort, and security, either during a race weekend or just at the bike park on a Sunday.






BYB Telemetry is universal, compact and lightweight. It is designed to fit on any downhill, enduro, cross-country, and e-bike. It is entirely designed and made in Italy. It is composed by a set of sensors that can be installed on every fork and shock absorber with universal supports. The heart of the system is the electronic acquisition unit: a CNC milled aluminum case, water and dustproof. It also includes an accelerometer, a gyroscope, and a GPS to provide the most accurate tracking of the ride. It communicates via wifi with the provided advanced visualization software, for a more precise analysis (for professional riders and suspensionists) or with an app for the automated setting of the suspension (mostly for the amateurs).

BYB Telemetry

BYB Telemetry is the result of our passion. We can’t wait to share this technology! We want to make the best personalized setup accessible to every rider, helping them getting the best out of their bikes. BYB Telemetry is available from today up to the 17th of January. Early-bird discount of 40% on the retail price will be available for the first backers. You can discover all the details on the Kickstarter page: http://kck.st/2UJvxIe


BYB Telemetry



About the Team

• Enrico Rodella: Master degree in industrial automation engineering, amateur downhill national champion, downhill teacher at Downhill Academy.
• Stefano Calati: Master degree in physics, currently PhD at Max Plank Institute, weekend rider and data analyst.

www.bybtelemetry.com


88 Comments

  • + 47
 This is gonna take my ride around Carsington Water next level.
  • + 14
 Now we can measure and study our shaft speed.
  • + 2
 @chyu: But who's is more linear?
  • + 24
 I'd still be shit after using this.
  • + 14
 Sweet. Perfect purchase to share the with friends as no one person is going to need this everyday they go ride. Extra sweet if they could make it adaptable to do suspension or brake analysis, with optional sensors. As is seems pretty rad though.
  • + 0
 exactly....
  • + 3
 If you race, you will need this a lot. Teams defo will need this. Perfect suspension setup at every race.
  • + 17
 “walking is for peasants and running is for criminals, I ride bikes”-Steve Garro.
  • + 12
 I see some potential. For the Privateer that uses a custom tuned fork and or shock from the likes of Push, EXT or Avy. Then to share data with them and create a remote personal tuner. Kind of like how ShockWiz is or should be used. Perhaps instead of it being a purchased item maybe it should be rented.
  • + 12
 I only care just enough about this kind of unnecessary crap, to make an unnecessary comment.
  • + 6
 That was not necessary.
  • + 2
 @bigburd extremely unncessary
  • + 4
 well, not necessarily...
  • + 4
 Theres a heck of a lot of work to bring all of this together between two guys. Massive credit to them for that.

The pricing is similar to a decent power meter and I see things like this as a more gravity orientated equivalent in terms of a training/ racing aid for people who take racing seriously. Sure you don't need a power meter to get fit and fast either but it is such a more efficient way of training and takes all of the guess work out of progress. No reason why this can't be similar.
  • + 4
 Without the knowledge of what all that data means and a box full of shims, you might as well just randomly twist the dials. After watching the Between Two Puzzlers videos, it would seem Jordi Cortez doesn’t think much about the average rider playing with the adjustments.
  • + 3
 This product is really good value for the money and it's invaluable to privateers who want to make a career from racing. Racers need this and I can see it helping coaches too, as this is an affordable service they can offer. These guys have knocked together a pretty good system, it seems none of you here understand the tech and how it can be applied, for races, it will provide so much data over the whole track, that you can really setup a solid bike and get those seconds needed for the win. When they say everyday rider, I think they mean the everyday racer who has dreams, also small teams....
  • + 6
 Will it work on my ding ah ling.
  • + 1
 Now THAT'S funny...
  • + 18
 Neither sensor is short enough.
  • + 3
 This has your local bike shop's name all over it. Rent it out and get your suspension dialed. Seems like an easily marketed little cash grab.
  • + 1
 I can feel if my shock is packing up or has too fast of rebound . I doubt I could easily translate this data to make dramatic changes to the shock. Such as drilling larger ports or modify shim stacks. I do have a good idea what the knobs do on my shock.
  • + 2
 Not gonna lie, when I see that data, I think Fourier Analysis. You have to know the frequency elements of your shocks response.
  • + 2
 I'm working on a product similar to this based on Arduino and it will be way cheaper Cool
If you are curious take a look at www.bitsfromitaly.it/about.php
  • + 1
 way cheaper and way worse.

If you only compare the sample rates I know it will be useless for the professional user.

BYB gives you 2 allready very expensive linear potentiometers (over 300 a pop), gps, a fully developed product with 2 software suites for "simple" and "comprehensive data" and all that for, acutally, a little over a grand. In my opinion that is a f*cking bargain.

I think the BYB system is a great idea, so I backed it. I certainly like the idea more than strapping a full on AIM 4s system onto a bike.
  • + 1
 @Helmchentuned: I know it is worse but i'm at the beginning and working on it.
Shock Chat will include some other tool than telemetry and will help "ordinary biker" that want to self tune fork and ammo.
It will be possible to mount different sensors, export data in different formats (csv or txt for future implementations), possibility to run your own server based on open source software (like Xampp) to save data on use graphic tools.
  • + 1
 This is cool. Way out of my price range though. You could buy three ShockWiz or two Fox 36 performance forks for that price Eek I am curious as to how this would mount to a single crown fork????
  • + 1
 Great. So, just like triathletes who piss on their bikes to save time, every mountain biker can now obsess over details that will move them up from middle-of-the-pack to...middle-of-the-pack.
  • + 4
 I just came here to have a good look at that froggy suspension
  • + 5
 We're not proud of this one...
  • + 1
 @fracasnoxteam: call me crazy, i think it looks cool..
  • + 0
 Sorry, but the 'average' rider and even privateer racer isn't gonna have the knowledge to even translate this data to something useful, let alone(as others have said) the resources to make internal changes on the spot.
If you want your shit 'analyzed', just buy(with a group of friends) or rent a shock wiz. Most 'average' riders run on air suspension anyway, and the wiz will get said average rider close enough to be happy. For the privateer racer, $1600 would be MUCH better spent on riding time/better equipment/coaching. Most races have suspension dudes at the track who are happy to baseline your suspension, then turn your clickers in the right direction for you after each run (if need be). All you need to do is be able to tell the dude what's happening (ie it's harsh, it bottoms too quickly, you're losing the front etc.)
Telemetry is for those who have the best of the best, technicians standing by to tear down pieces and make valving changes on the spot, have the capability to use every bit of performance their bike has to offer, and then some
  • + 1
 I agree! Without someone to explain what to do with all the data and the ability to revalve suspension components this is just a toy. I find that just maintenance (bushings, seals, fluids. . . ie) helps a lot but there will be the rich kids that show up with these!
  • + 12
 All this talk about people not having the knowledge to use something like this blows my mind! It's called learning, and the average person can learn anything if they put the time in... How do you think the experts figured this stuff out, by learning and getting practice on these exact tools.
  • - 1
 @AlexRose: I don’t know too many average people that can revalve suspension and to buy this just to adjust clickers seems frivolous!
  • + 1
 @MX298: My point is that those people could learn to do that if they wanted.
  • + 0
 And without in-depth theoretical knowledge about the suspension, it is completely useless. So it is useless for 95% of riders, might be useful for teams, which probably already have similar gear.
  • + 4
 Randy runs one
  • + 2
 Breaking news!....Ross Brawn and Adrian Newey will head the new F1 inspired DH team!
  • + 1
 This would be awesome, it could help me set up a bike like Gwin and basically ride a hardtail DH bike down the hill and be stoopid fast.
  • + 3
 it looks amazing I would love to try it
  • + 1
 ATTENTION EAST COAST DH PARKS!!!!

Highland and Thunder, I'm talking to you two.

Rent these things for $25 a day.

Ok, resume whatever you were doing.
  • + 2
 If you're in the market for this, you consider spending the money on a bigger set of nuts.
  • + 1
 PhD at Max Plank Institute? That's so funny, because I'm a PhD at Max Warrior Pose Institute. Lets have lunch sometime.
  • + 2
 whats with all these bitter ass comments?
  • + 2
 put this to your bike that has not been serviced in the last decade
  • - 2
 So, a couple of positional sensors in two tubes, sliding rods and a data logger in a box? Anyone could cobble that together these days with a Rpi. But mad props to them for the software development, that's where the USP is.

Now if only it had a button to make my shock super small bump compliant, mega plush but support like a wonderbra in the mid travel.
  • + 2
 You ever tried doing that?
The sensors alone retail for >500, plus a bluetooth license and I bet the connectors cost more than you think. They aren't making a killing on this, and I suspect anyone that says they could cobble one together has never tired.

There's some pretty strong patreo rule effects in stuff like this; the big, costly challenges are things you wouldn't even think of when you think about shock telemetry.
  • + 1
 I'll ask Bruce Wayne for sponsor, Alfred to setup the jig and Batman to explain the science.
  • + 2
 Waiting for wakis expert opinion. He always seems to know everything.
  • + 2
 This will be cool for smaller race teams.
  • + 2
 Fancy version of a ShockWiz?
  • + 1
 Does ShockWiz give you full run data?
  • + 2
 The data nerd in me wants this, but I'm unfortunately not a dentist.
  • + 1
 "advanced visualization software" cringe. How about an export function?
  • + 1
 Get your local bike shop to buy one and then rent ahaha
  • + 1
 Pay for some coaching instead. Will improve your riding much more.
  • + 1
 People who buy stuff like this already have a coach.
  • + 1
 I dont need all these .. coz i ride hard.. LOL
  • + 1
 @amckinstry this would help get you under the 1:00 mark on middle run hehe
  • + 1
 You can strap on an iPhone and measure you’re suspension!
  • + 1
 The first? So whats an AIM evo 4s just doesnt exist....
  • + 1
 Yes now I can make KOM on my local fire road lol.
  • - 1
 Accelerometer integrates circuits exist so you don’t these rods and shit! It can all be wireless!
  • + 1
 accept that it wont give you information on shaft speed, where the suspension is in its stroke, etc
  • + 0
 Is it 29+ compatible
  • - 1
 dont want it dont need it. just wanna ride a bike
  • - 1
 Thanks for the friday jokes.
  • - 3
 What shit is This..
  • - 2
 They just want your money.
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