Canada to Reopen Borders for Nonessential Travel

Jul 19, 2021
by Alicia Leggett  
In a news release today, the Canadian government announced that Canada will reopen its borders to fully vaccinated US residents August 9 and to all other fully vaccinated travelers September 7, provided that visitors can prove they are vaccinated and have tested negative for Covid within 72 hours of requesting access to Canada.

With the Whistler region largely considered (and voted by you all) to be the Mountain Bike Capital, this bodes well for riders in the US and elsewhere who have been hoping for their Canadian bike park fix.


That said, the news release made clear that the reopening plans are contingent on the virus staying in check, so Pinkbike encourages everyone to adhere to their local guidelines.


339 Comments

  • 371 39
 Oh well we had a good run
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flag gregthomas (Jul 19, 2021 at 18:46) (Below Threshold)
 Yea it's awesome, I'm Canadian living in the US and in order to see my family I need to ether quarantine for two weeks or inject my 12 year old with a non-FDA approved vaccine. If we would just look at risk factors when making these decisions.......
  • 178 22
 @gregthomas: love all the ‘government can’t tell me what to do’ people claiming they need government approval to do something.
  • 114 24
 @gregthomas: Do you not know all the shit we consume that isn’t FDA approved?
  • 87 5
 I'm super stoked because all of those Americans trying to buy my shit when I say local pickup only can actually come and pick it up locally
  • 11 2
 Trying to keep the goods to youself? Didn't your parents teach you to share?
  • 3 3
 @salespunk: Need to get paid . . . .
  • 6 0
 @chickenlassi:

You have my attention…
  • 39 127
flag mtboaxaca (Jul 19, 2021 at 20:15) (Below Threshold)
 @gregthomas: no vaxx, total gov. control of ur every move......
  • 71 34
 @gregthomas: it’s not your personal risk factors, nobody cares if you make a mad decision and get hurt. It’s about the risk you take on behalf of others that may suffer because of your decision.
  • 39 15
 You definitely got the good end of that shit stick. You had Whistler, and we had no lines at Costco. But before you go crapping all over tourists, take a minute to let it soak in that Whistler would not be what it is without tourism. For better or worse depending on your perspective. Relax. See you in a few weeks. I'll be the guy in the CRAZY, HORRIBLE, AWEFUL lift line relaxing and cracking jokes with my friends.
  • 6 4
 @schlayer: That is awesome, thanks. Some call it civic duty.
  • 27 11
 @gregthomas: I bet you vape
  • 8 0
 @kungfupanda: RIP Trader Joe’s parking lot.
  • 85 88
 America is still full of brainwashed Trumpers who won't get vaccinated. They'll be bringing the Delta variant to Canada and coughing everywhere. Brace yourselves!
  • 19 1
 @rustiegrizwold: THIS MAVERICK DEMANDS FDA APPROVAL!!!
  • 16 27
flag Heyshushu (Jul 19, 2021 at 22:34) (Below Threshold)
 @gregthomas: it is FDA approved.
  • 19 1
 @Dogl0rd: and there’s probably more chemicals in his chicken dinner !
  • 10 5
 @Heyshushu: it’s absolutely not, but the FDA is a joke so just YOLO it and go ride bikes!
  • 71 24
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Most Trumpers don't know where Canada is, I think we're good.
  • 9 26
flag conoat (Jul 20, 2021 at 0:58) (Below Threshold)
 @rustiegrizwold: the FDA shouldn't exist
  • 28 1
 @imbiker: It's easy to miss Canada, all tucked away down there.
  • 7 3
 Clown@DoubleCrownAddict:
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flag JustAnotherRiderHere (Jul 20, 2021 at 4:09) (Below Threshold)
 Those who are weak will die...simple. Those who are afraid cant hide...oh, and an experimental hypothetical vaccine will not help the weak. Pesky facts.
  • 5 4
 @tarik28: @DoubleClownAddict?
  • 32 88
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 4:36) (Below Threshold)
 Had no idea Canada had such a liberal pack of morons in the government like we do. Liking our trails here even more now.
  • 6 3
 @kungfupanda: Welcome back! Please keep the party on the trails and the lines orderly and flowing.
  • 12 2
 @kungfupanda: I do wish that Whistler was not owned by Vail resorts though…
  • 15 6
 @DoubleCrownAddict: can we get another ban on you please?
  • 11 40
flag Garyraybmx (Jul 20, 2021 at 8:01) (Below Threshold)
 So is it a requirement in Canada that when you turn 40 you become a salty old f*ck? Or does it come naturally with living in that shit hole for that long?
  • 21 12
 @MikeyMT: government approval and scientific testing shouldn't be tethered theoretically. I think the issue most people have with the current admins response is the 'you don't need to know, because we do, and we're telling you it's good for you. trust us'. And you know, injecting ourselves with products made by companies that helped manufacture an opioid crisis in America and are essentially guilty (and literally re their punitive historical fines) of crimes against humanity. all in all not a comfortable pill to swallow for anyone with strict morals or rational barriers to action.
  • 15 16
 @ReeferSouthrland: you can get criminal charges brought against you in Canada for refusing to acknowledge someones gender identity. Can't wait until the sociopaths get ahold of that one.
  • 3 0
 @kungfupanda: I'm a tourist too sometimes so I dont mind but was just cool to have some of our stuff to ourself for a bit, same with surfing. Like I said it was good while it lasted.
  • 11 14
 @TotalAmateur: Yes indeed, the canada I have been going to for many decades turned into a freak show.
  • 7 0
 @rustiegrizwold: some of the shit we consume that IS FDA approved is pretty damn nasty too.
  • 51 10
 no vax, no A-Line... there you have it. Whining on a website with your ignorance isn't going to change anything.
  • 9 5
 @rednova: 'yahoo news' is a big an oxymoron as 'honest politician'. That story was literally all commentary, no substantive information other than 'he didn't get his shot, now he wishes he did'. So we're ignoring the fact that this guy is a statistical anomaly and just soothe ourselves with the journos words of 'he had no preexisting conditions'. That 'story' should have just been a Facebook post with the lack of information in it. Also LOL at yahoo disabling comments on their articles, they're scared of getting called on their bullshit.
  • 13 6
 @rednova: final sentence 'not trying to fear monger but you know.....' as they blatantly fear monger lol. But ya hey people get struck by lightning at the same rate that people need lung replacements from COVID, so best never go outside again lads!
  • 6 2
 @TotalAmateur:

My point is for a story like Dink posted about a terrible side effect to the vaccine there are terrible stories of the side effects of catching Covid. If you prefer a different news source.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5atlanta.com/news/at-24-florida-man-undergoes-double-lung-transplant-after-covid-19-destroys-his-lungs.amp

www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/563178-family-shares-warning-after-24-year-old-covid-19-patient-undergoes-double%3famp
  • 13 4
 @kungfupanda: www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines

Medical professional and degrees in research and stats here…so not goin to get into it about this as I already have to on a daily basis and it’s getting quite f*cking old. Whoever thinks it’s not approved just go to the website and read it’s not that difficult. Now whether you have any regards for FDA is another issue not for PB comment section.
  • 50 10
 FDA and Pharma companies have always been in bed and don't have a strong history. However, COVID vaccine development, monitoring and evaluation have been exceptionally transparent and many researchers, public health practitioners, government watchdogs, independent governments, etc have all been monitoring vaccine safety and vaccine performance. In other words there is a massive body of literature outside of the FDA and pharma companies.

Conclusion: Right now the vaccines are extremely safe and have high vaccine efficacy. Unfortunately too few people are immunized and more transmissible variants increase the level of immunization required to prevent epidemic oscillations (surges etc). Where I live over 1 million doses have been administered safely. During the month of June in a vaccine efficacy case control study we just completed (not FDA/Pharma funded or in anyway affiliated) we estimated 87% vaccine efficacy (81-95%).

If you don't believe me below is a pretty solid collection of references related to mRNA vaccine performance and safety:

www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.27.21257583v1
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/8/21-1145_article
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7023e2.htm?s_cid=mm7023e2_w
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.24.21257738v2
www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00263-2/fulltext21
www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107456
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.22.21257658v1
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666379121001038
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.14.444076v1
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.13.444010v1

www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7020e2.htm?s_cid=mm7020e2_w
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2780700
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.442455v1
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.12.443888v1
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext21
academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab438/6276888
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00677-2/fulltext21
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7018e1.htm?s_cid=mm7018e1_w#contribAff
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21254636v1
academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab361/62537
  • 8 7
 @rednova: it doesn't change the fact that the cases you are listing are statistically insignificant.
  • 2 0
 Hmm well in other news CBSA threatening to strike just in time for the border to open, they may not get in all that easily
  • 3 11
flag PACNW-MTB (Jul 20, 2021 at 15:45) (Below Threshold)
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Why should any vaccinated person give a f*ck about non-vaccinated “brainwashed Trumpers”?

Unless, of course, the “vaccine” isn’t really a vaccine.
  • 6 2
 @PACNW-MTB: 90% vaccine efficacy is not 100% which means that if the virus is circulating a lot of vaccinated individuals will end up being infected. This is exacerbated by the fact that COVID-19 is so infectious which necessitates higher vaccine effiacy and higher vaccine uptake to stop epidemics/outbreaks. Right now with high vaccine efficacy >20% of our reported cases are still fully immunized (compared to >65% of the total population being immunized).

Thus as much as we may not want to admit it, we are all interconnected (nationally and globally), low vaccine uptake in any part of population increases all of our risk even with excellent vaccines.

Media, CDC, Biden rhetoric about individual choice or "just get the vaccine and go about your business" makes me convinced they still don't understand how infectious disease transmission and immunity works and are laying the seeds for future vaccine hesitancy
  • 3 1
 @PACNW-MTB: because if left unchecked the virus will mutate into something these vaccines don't work against and we're back to square f*cking one. I know two people who got this both of whom said it's the sickest they've ever been in their life, with one of them saying he coughed up blood.

Corona viruses are not a f*cking joke. SARS is another corona virus that was incredibly lethal but luckily had very low transmission rates. If we end up with a corona virus that is highly lethal AND spreads quickly it'll wipe out a huge chunk of the human race.
  • 2 3
 @friendlyfoe: Again, Darwin....
  • 2 5
 @ppp9911: I guess a little Kool-Aid is all you need....
  • 5 9
flag PACNW-MTB (Jul 20, 2021 at 20:25) (Below Threshold)
 @ppp9911: If everyone would mind their own f*cking business and take responsibility for their OWN health, i.e. wash their hands, keep their homes clean and sanitary, respect others' space when in public and practice NOT being mouth breathers, it would be just as effective as wearing the non-effective masks that has divided the world into two groups; Trumpers and virtue-signalers. But that can't really be politicized or virtue-signaled, so not as popular as compelling the masses to mask up.....
  • 6 6
 @PACNW-MTB: Umm that's not how any of this works. You'll be shedding the virus before you know you're sick and COVID-19 has an incredibly high rate of transmission. But sure lets all breath through our noses and I'm sure everything will be fine
  • 9 8
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: The whole west coast is on fire every year now and there's still people saying climate change is a hoax. The portion of the population who deserve a darwin award are unfortunately going to get the rest of us killed too.
  • 2 5
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: Your gods at Fox News are pleading with you to get dosed up now , they don’t want you to die and they’re figures to drop !
  • 5 5
 @Matt115lamb: Fox News? Naaaaa, I will listen to facts, reality and the fact that I am not anywhere near the demographic to worry about ChinaFlu...get it if you want, your immune system is not my problem.
  • 5 3
 @PACNW-MTB: Not be mouth breathers? Well shit, that is most of the folks who are buying to the "We are from the Government, we are here to help" policies. Plus, they are the ones who are breeding out of control (in general, you see them on the Maury show trying to figure out who the father is.
  • 8 9
 @DoubleCrownAddict: The funniest part about your liberal comment is all of the vaccinated sheep that are contracting all forms of covid despite getting their jab. The government will save you tho...Dont worry.
  • 6 6
 @rustiegrizwold: Do you know all the shit on your supposed list? Pretty ignorant comparison, at least you found 80 other ignorant people to like your comment. Huge difference between a never used vaccine technology that's wasn't tested properly before damn near forcing people to take it. We're literally part of the biggest experiment in history, fingers crossed they got this shit right.
  • 7 5
 @Heyshushu: the f*ck it is! You best do some research there guy. It 100% Not approved and the pharmaceutical companies are not liable if you have complications or die from it. Which if you go to CDC website there's more then 6000 deaths attributed to the vaccine so far, more deaths then all vaccines in the last 30 years. I'll stick with guinea pigging a jump not experimental drugs.
  • 7 4
 @Heyshushu: Emergency Use Authorization does not mean it's approved the way a fully tested vaccine is considered approved. If you're really as smart as you say then you shouldn't be trying to argue about an EUA that would get removed if they were to start using existing approved pharmaceutical drugs that could have a substantial impact. Which we have a few of that are being ignored because there off patent and cost basically penny's per dose.
  • 6 4
 @ppp9911: This virus is not going anywhere, trying to vaccinate during a pandemic is why you're see these variations in covid and why it's never going away. This particular vaccine is relying on a single reaction to the spike protein to create a specific antibody reaction, all other vaccines rely on multiple antibodies so the virus has to try and change multiple things to defeat them, not so with this vaccine.
  • 7 6
 @friendlyfoe: We're no longer in pandemic stage, some Dr's are starting to consider it a endemic. This will exist forever unfortunately. Hell the Surgeon General just spoke on misinformation and said in his speech that this never reach zero.
  • 8 14
flag PACNW-MTB (Jul 21, 2021 at 6:33) (Below Threshold)
 @Matt115lamb: No, your terrified sheeple ass is pleading with me to get the jab because you are afraid for your own self-important life, as you are nothing but a mouth breathing, non-thinking, libtard leftie who just blindly follows whatever their virtue-signaling, alarmist leaders dictate you to think.

You are too busy worshipping the talking heads and being a good virtue-signaling minion that you fail to understand these simple facts:

- only about 12% of the world's population has contracted COVID
- vax is 90% effective

combine those two statistics and tell me why any vaccinated person would worry about being in an outdoor lift line with unvaccinated folks.....

Also amazing (almost magical) how the COVID rate dropped like a rock starting on/around January 6......
  • 5 3
 @PACNW-MTB:
Listen here Pacboy , I really don’t give a f*ck if you get a vax or not , just hope you don’t catch Covid and spread it to someone who’s vulnerable and suffers from your misinformed action !
I have know issue with being outdoors amongst anyone whose not jabbed !
Didn’t vaccines become available in January, might answer your last comment !
  • 6 1
 @MikeGruhler:
You are correct in assuming that we are not likely going to eradicate COVID from the planet, but with wide global vaccine coverage + immunity from primary infection the disease prevalence and the morbidity and death can be severely limited. Millions of deaths, hospitalizations, and illnesses averted every year

You are misinformed about the vaccine and EUA: Typical vaccine trials have 3 phases, all of the current vaccines have gone through phase I (safety) phase II (dosing) phase III efficacy/effectiveness and population level safety with monitoring for 2 years. All vaccines successfully went though phases I and II just like any other vaccine, the phase III was started and only 7 days after the second dose (Moderna/Pfizer) the vaccine was given EUA because it was safe had extremely limited but plausible effectiveness. However, we are now 10 months out from when the phase III trials were started and interim analyses at six months confirmed vaccine efficacy >90% and with hundreds of millions of doses administered have an excellent safety profile (Certainly better than most other vaccines and orders of magnitude better than most drugs). At this point these immunizations will be licensed by any global drug and safety regulatory body once they Phase III trial completes.

You also are misinformed about the vaccine targets: All of the EUA vaccines express the ENTIRE spike protein that starts within your own cell. This results in a wide range of antibodies to the different portions of the spike protein as well as primes both CD8+ and CD4+ memory T cells. This is why even with a high preponderance of variants with multiple spike mutations the vaccines are still performing very well.

About vaccines, mutations, and spike protein:
www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00573-0?utm_source=sn&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=RM&utm_campaign=BSLB_1_CA01_BSLB_AWA_CA01_GL_LSGR_PubH_Coronavirus_LandingPage
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 @pourquois-pas: uh....that's to enter the US. CAN, as per your link, is keeping the 9th.
  • 1 1
 @ppp9911: Nice! Dig the information but it's still falls under the EUA correct? It's still in testing and we still do not fully understand all of its side effects and how it's actually interacting with our bodies. Like I said above somewhere, I hope they got this shit right...maybe if the companies weren't protected from litigation against complications from the vaccine then I could understand your "approved argument"
  • 5 0
 @MikeGruhler: mRNA vaccines have been used on humans since 2009. Clinical trials since 2013 so it's not really a "mystery" drug. Most of the negative effects of the vaccine happen within 6 weeks. Mortality rate is .002% from the taking the vaccine (VAERS data) and is exponentially lower than getting the virus.
  • 3 2
 @MikeGruhler: "Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has said that more than 97% of COVID-19 hospitalizations nationwide are among those who have not been vaccinated."

pretty easy to figure out unless your a Trumper.
  • 2 0
 @jaydawg69: funny I was just double checking my cdc deaths numbers. Sounds like I was misunderstanding how they show there data. That VAERS data is not intended to determine if the vaccine caused an adverse effect, its to gather data to hopefully see a pattern.
  • 2 1
 @jaydawg69: your ignorant comment about maybe being a Trumper is mind blowing. It's OK, he's gone. You can breath now. Interesting how you're trying to discuss science but bring up politics. So glad discussing science has become some political, social justice issue....oh and f*ck Trump. My parents watched that dude party with the MOB in Atlantic City right before he got his gambling license, which he almost didn't get because of his dealings with them. Dude's a criminal, no doubt.
  • 2 4
 Wow Pinkbike you censor/delete my comment about the vaxed getting the unvaxed sick which is absolutely true (along with the typical Leftist personal attacks that follow)) while you leave misinformation like this that is pulled from a top Google search. Leftism has taken over here too. Delete my account I’m done here and anyone believes the same should not use PinkBike anymore. Director of Pfizer yesterday said the jab suppresses your immune system and you will need more jabs every couple months and Canada has a contract for the continued Pfizer jabs for the future. Big Pharma making billions while taking people out as usual. Research what the forced anthrax jab did to us veterans. Common sense is gone. Good luck out there!
  • 2 1
 @MikeGruhler: Yes they are still under an EUA. The point I was making is that the initial EUA was based around very limited effectiveness data (used Bayesian statistics to extrapolate) which was very shaky and had people like me especially concerned about evaluating how well these vaccines work in the longer term.However, now that we are 8 months out from the EUA we have tons of real world data supporting the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines and the safety. Based on these data and the 6 month interim analyses, the only thing holding up full FDA approval is time (end of the trial). Statistically speaking the vaccine safety and efficacy are set. So, once the trials are completed they will certainly be licensed.

Truthfully, even after FDA licensure of most drugs/vaccines there is still uncertainty especially if the clinical trials only involved a relatively small group of the population. However, these immunizations are light years ahead because so many people have already received them meaning the rare adverse events have already been mostly identified. Really the only unknowns are how long they will provide immunity for though reformulation of different mRNA is quite easy which is another major positive.

Pharma company lobbying, immunity from liability, and selling us back vaccines that we already paid for with NIH grant dollars (Moderna, and most of the Pfizer and J&J technology as well) is super despicable. However, that does not change the fact that these vaccines are safe and working, but this should be a motivator to pressure legislatures to hold big pharma accountable.
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 @ppp9911: While educated...you either purposefully or ignorantly left out any LONG TERM side effects. Convenient. Ignorance is bliss...I guess.
  • 3 1
 @MikeGruhler:I bring up both as one party (GOP) isn't following the science. Look at the vaccination rates of the red states. Is the right promoting the vaccine?
  • 3 1
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: there is lots of data on mRNA vaccines... look above on my previous post.
  • 4 1
 @jaydawg69: It's just a coincidence that low vaccination rates are in the states with the lowest IQ
  • 2 0
 @Yaan: there is a direct correlation
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 @conoat: crap, I read that too quickly.

I wish I could edit the post dammit
  • 1 4
 @jaydawg69: Wow, you just can't help yourself can you? Still trying to mix politics and science. Good luck with that.
  • 5 1
 @MikeGruhler: Except the two aren't separate. Politics, when it comes to decisions about health, should be informed by science.
Throughout this thread you have made it patently clear that you hold a position which is not based on science, and in true conspiracy theorist style this position is unaffected by evidence, further demonstrating that you do not base this position on evidence but on a belief. To argue or reason with you is pointless as you are not open to change and are quick to resort to non-sequitors.
The efficacy of the vaccinations is already very clear as has already been pointed out (and self-evident from the death rate among vaccinated populations), there is no grand experiment, you are not a victim, you are a bog standard antivaxxer with all the tropes.
I'm sure you'll reply to this with some insult, some non-sequitor, some challenge for more evidence (that's a classic trope), some other demand which, if even possible to deliver, would result in another. And on it would go.
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flag JustAnotherRiderHere (Jul 22, 2021 at 5:49) (Below Threshold)
 @rbeach: @rbeach - science however would not confuse hypothesis with fact. Currently, every flu vaccine and more so a ChinaFlu vaccine is no more than a very loose hypothesis. No one on the side of vaccines are seemingly paying attention to the long term effects of this drug, nor are they taking into consideration the personal choices we all have. To that, it is very hypocritical for a Govt to say they are going to go door to door and promote it while allowing the open and public sale of smokes and booze.

More over - Monday of this week we lost a very good friend. She effectively had "cancer of the cancer" and died in her home with her loving family (who came from across the country to be with her). She stopped chemo about 8 weeks ago as there was no good prognosis...and yet, in the numbers, she is listed a COVID death...why does that fact alone not strike you as concerning?
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 @JustAnotherRiderHere: No they are not hypotheses, a drug cannot be a hypothesis. It can be an answer to a hypothesis, but not a hypothesis itself. I'm not sure you know what that word means since a hypothesis is a research question or supposition without much evidence, which pre-empts investigation or trial. I see you've tried this tact on other threads unsuccessfully, where you then started talking about things like salmonella.
Flu vaccinations, including the Covid-19 one, are very well evidenced. It's not called "ChinaFlu", and the fact that you've used that term is very telling.
"No one on the side of vaccines" - implies that you aren't on the side of vaccines (and therefore logic, reason or knowledge) and explains your ignorance of basic terminology.
Saying something is merely a hypothesis or theory without understanding what those terms mean is classic antivaxxer stuff - as are non-sequitors, like your bizarre booze and smoking comparison.
As I said, replies like yours are to be expected and are classic antivaxxer nonsense. It's a bit like talking to religious zealots, no matter what is said, they are impervious to fact, and are unable to understand the answers when they're given.
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 @rbeach: I am not at all anti-vax. I am however someone who works in a Trauma Center all day every day. I am someone who is familiar with the efficacxy of these vaccines and more so, familiar with the unforeseen consequences of "medical breakthroughs".

Again, survival of the fittest. If YOU want it, YOU take it. From there - way off base... but, say we cure cancer. Where in the hell are the "survivors" going to live and how are we going to feed them? Simply, the weak need to die for the better of the strong. Those who blindly listed dogmatically to the Govt are by definition - weak.

Salmonella is a PERFECT example of a comparison...because, if you LOOK for it, you will FIND it - every time, every day, every trip to every store...if you go looking for something, chances are you will find it (unless you are looking for a well educated human, then your chances are getting lower and lower. Self sustaing is even harder to find).
  • 3 0
 @PACNW-MTB: so it's clear you have no medical of science background, but all you're really doing is proving your ignorance in multiple subjects. You'd be better off letting people wonder if you're an idiot than confirming their suspicions...
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 @gilby82: quite the contrary, moron. I posted two commonly accepted facts that are very relative to each other and you pompously make a claim that I obviously have no medical or science background. Ummm…

Instead of making ridiculous, completely unsubstantiated claims, why don’t you enlighten us all with your vast knowledge and answer the question I asked?

If only 12% of the global population contracted the virus (pre-vax, through Dec. 2020), and the vax has a 90% efficacy, why would any vaxxed person be fearful of mingling with, “delusional, anti-vax Trumpers” at Whistler?

I’m all ears!
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 @PACNW-MTB: What does the efficacy rate have anything to do with the number of people vaccinated? That's only relevant when talking about herd immunity.
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 @friendlyfoe: WTF are you talking about? Where did I ever mention herd immunity? Do you have trouble comprehending the written word?

DCA made a snide remark about the border being open, so folks at Whistler should be careful of, "delusional anti-vax Trumpers". I replied with two statistics. The first one was that about 12 in 100 people (through Dec 2012, pre-vax) contracted the virus. The second one was that the vax has at least a 90% efficacy rate (a 90% reduction in transmission rate).

So, 90% reduction of a 12% transmission rate of a virus that is only serious to a very small percentage of people who contract it leaves a vaccinated person concerned about being outdoors, socially distanced from a non-vaccinated person why?

All of this would be so much simpler if you just had your own brain and the wherewithal to use it to critically consider the facts and then use that information to extrapolate whether or not that risk is worth it for you to co-mingle with said delusional folks in order to get your Whistler fix. Instead, you just want to insult strangers on a bicycle forum to stroke your own fragile ego, to make you appear intellectually superior, when in reality you have proven to be a moronic liberal f*cktard who just wants to continue parroting his exalted leaders' propaganda and do the virtue-signaling dance for all of you peers to see.
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 @PACNW-MTB: holy shit dude what are you doing?
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 @owl-X: Safe bet most of the people in the above thread will not be in Whistler this year.
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 @rbeach: It's clear you haven't read what I've said, never claimed the vaccine doesn't work. It seems to work really well. Everything I've written is about science and that we're not done with the science yet. There are risks with the vaccine, period. Its definitely a new version of mRNA vaccines. Do other mRNA involve the spike protein? Not that I could find. Is the spike protein from the vaccine behaving how it was intended? No, not completely. Is the vaccine staying at the injection site? No again.. These are not conspiracy theory questions but actual questions that are still being investigated and ones we do not have clear answers on..the science is not complete yet. How f*cking hard is that for people to understand.
I'm definitely not an anti-vaxxer and have all the common vaccines children in the USA get along with my 3 kids and wife. I've done my part to protect my family and friends during all of this, so my decision until I feel safe with the potential risks involved and baring final approval for the vaccine then I will continue watching the science and hoping we got this shit right cause alot of healthy people could get right f*cked by this vaccine if not, it's totally plausible.
  • 4 1
 Hmmm the anti-vaxxers roughly tend to be trump supporters...The vaccine approval was accelerated by Trump's own process... I wonder if trump won the election would they still be afraid of the vaccine?
  • 2 3
 @Yaan: Stopped going to Canada years ago.......
  • 3 1
 @Dogl0rd: Maybe if he admitted to being vaccinated some of his followers would accept it.
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 @PACNW-MTB: thanks for proving my point!
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 @Yaan:
Along with that lovely :lol Majorie Taylor Green who refuses to say she’s had it yet feeds the anti vaxxers with rubbish . To put it mildly!
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 @Matt115lamb: I get her play. For instance, I have a paper that says I had the shot - I personally sprayed my dose(s) into a sink as there is no way on earth it goes into my body. At the point the Govt mandates this crap, she has plausible deniability. (and a civil war will start, CRT is low ball compared to demanding an experimental drug).

In life we often have to play poker. The sooner the rest of the herd comprehends that we are all mortal, the better we are. To that, the other day I went to the funeral of the woman who died from cancer...the Govt claims she died with ChinaFlu - on the way there I nearly died getting hit by a truck running from the police....life is fragile. Ride your bike.

(2:38 - I am in the blue Mercedes @ the gas station - www.facebook.com/mcsoflorida/videos/2862010560729496)
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 @Matt115lamb: honestly even funnier than her having it and denying is the 12 Texas legislators that skipped town to avoid their job, then all tested positive for COVID and gave it to current admin staff, possibly including Kamala. It's like a guarantee if you're a politician that is pro mask and lock down that you're going to violate it at some point.
  • 2 4
 @TotalAmateur: As long as Harris has a fatal case, I am 100% in favor!
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flag TotalAmateur (Jul 23, 2021 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: lol right? at least she would die as she lived, desperately trying to violate civil liberties. (before you blindly downvote me go look up Kamalas history with denying DNA evidence to innocent inmates)
  • 1 2
 @gilby82: You made a point?
  • 1 1
 Marsha, Marsha, Marsha
  • 1 0
 @chickenlassi: Thought of just using Craigslist for selling local?
  • 264 7
 I see Canada was not acquired by Outside. Good for them.
  • 176 0
 When Canada is acquired, they will erect a beautiful, yuuge paywall and the Americans will pay for it.
  • 6 2
 This is an underrated post.
  • 54 3
 Surely a fee upon entering would help take Canada to the next level?
  • 68 5
 @BoobyHill - it’s already owned by China and is not for sale
  • 20 3
 @stuie321: so true
  • 12 1
 @jackalope: They already did. Its called a Whistler lift ticket.
  • 9 0
 @Sweatypants: Whistler is owned by Vail Resorts. All that lift ticket money will be back home before you!
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flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 11:05) (Below Threshold)
 Reason 3541 not to move to canaduh
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 @jackalope: I would gladly erect a paywall for canadians to enter the US! all you do is ruin pizza anywho!
  • 2 0
 @conoat: yo true story... Whistler sushi is amazing as all the videos have led me to believe over the years. Whistler pizza from the place I went was not edible. I threw out pizza for the first time in my entire life. I've never thrown out pizza, its the best food ever. Unbelievable that somebody could make pizza that bad.
  • 2 0
 @Sweatypants: the burgers there are even worse. the nanny state CAN gov. mandates that all burger be cooked WELL DONE. wtaf.....
  • 1 0
 @Sweatypants: Canadian pizza WTF is that? Summit lodge has a great breakfast, Mongolie Grill is great for lunch or dinner , then The Clubhouse will get you laid guaranteed for dinner.
  • 1 1
 @ReeferSouthrland: A Canadian Pizza is cheese, pepperoni, sausage, and mushrooms, no joke, it is good actually.
  • 1 0
 @BornOnTwo: Hey I was complimenting some spots I have been going to for years in Whistler. Telling a Italian from Brooklyn what pizza is , now I heard everything.
  • 1 0
 @ReeferSouthrland: Where's that New Haven pizza rank for you?
  • 1 0
 It's tasty, not a big fan of the crust or how they cutt it. My uncle from Puglia makes the best I ever had.
  • 1 0
 @ReeferSouthrland: i had decent pizza at some little small place in Revelstoke actually. Sometimes people surprise you. The Whistler place though... holy f*cking hell. Its making me mad all over again just thinking about it 2 years later. I dunno the name off hand, but I could find it on a map. And it had a 4.4 rating too! What the hell is wrong with you people up there? Have that many people really never had east coast pizza? I've had good pizza in India and Central America from ex-pats... how has that not made it to Whistler?
  • 1 0
 @BoobyHill: i fux with New Haven. Pretty much can't go wrong with any non-chain place from DC to Maine that's worth a damn.
  • 1 0
 @Sweatypants: I hear you, we walked by that spot and kept walking just by the smell, Dominos status. Whistler needs a legit brick oven spot. Of course NYC is pizza capitol of the continent but alot of people overlook NJ. They have great stuff going on literally all over the state. Way better than CT style.
  • 1 0
 @ReeferSouthrland: You lucky East Coasters, the pizza situation in San Diego sucks. The worst New York slice is still better than the "best" in San Diego.
  • 1 0
 @BoobyHill: Really, I have to find the spot I went to down there, pretty good. At least you have the best Birria tacos north of the border. Making me hungry
  • 1 0
 @ReeferSouthrland: And more great Birria trucks coming from Tijuana keep popping up everywhere. My go-to spot is literally just one dude on a giant flat top in a parking lot, $5 for 6 tacos.

Let me know if you figure out that pizza spot, I've given up on the pizza here
  • 2 1
 @BoobyHill: we literally just went to a place called Basic Bar & Pizza 2 night ago (in town for a few) that was pretty ok. I didn't NOT like it. Try that maybe.
  • 126 10
 Welcome back all! Things are settling down and hoping they keep moving forward in positive fashion
  • 43 1
 A positive, welcoming comment. Thanks friend.
  • 39 4
 @Jimmy0: there's a barely hidden current of anti - American hostility. I hope its a vocal minority. You're good neighbours and I hope people largely remember that.
  • 28 2
 @Jimmy0: I'm so positive I can barely breathe!
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flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 4:42) (Below Threshold)
 Canada was way more fun before the political virus got everyone butthurt soo bad.
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 Glad to see someone from the area welcoming people.

The irony is Whistler is populated/settled by people from other continents (Australia, France, New Zealand) trying to keep tourists out?!? LOL.
  • 16 3
 @leelau: I think people forget that most differences run east-west, not north-south. I've got more in common with someone from Oregon than Ontario. Except California... they're a distinct breed.
  • 2 3
 @plyawn: hahah definitely runs east/west . We don't like people from CA or NY here in America either lol.
  • 84 20
 Hopefully we don't get people manipulating their vaccine passports just to come over
  • 188 7
 Don't worry, Americans never cheat to get what they want.
  • 18 64
flag pistol2ne (Jul 19, 2021 at 17:26) (Below Threshold)
 Love the anti Vax low efficacy people cheering on authoritarianism.
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flag yupstate (Jul 19, 2021 at 17:30) (Below Threshold)
 Right, yes. The myth there's tons of unvaccinated running around asymptomatically spreading the virus. Tell me another story, it's almost bedtime. Tell me the one about the American with all the downvotes.....
  • 105 22
 @yupstate: 98% of all new hospitalized COVID-19 cases were unvaccinated individuals.
  • 21 51
flag pistol2ne (Jul 19, 2021 at 18:10) (Below Threshold)
 @seraph: It's actually 99.4% but whatever. CLEARLY MEANS VACCINES DON'T WORK lol.

Actually what's happening is a pcr testing failure/issue that a lot have been claiming for months now.... Testing after you've been vaccinated is bogus and stupid unless you're sick.
  • 51 25
 @yupstate: the cases that are climbing in the states are from unvaccinated people who refuse to think of other people
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flag giantwhip (Jul 19, 2021 at 18:24) (Below Threshold)
 @pistol2ne: do you understand that vaccines aren't a cure for this? There's going to be other strains
  • 28 20
 @giantwhip: Lol you clearly don't understand much.
Yikes
  • 17 10
 @seraph: So hospitalized people are headed to the lifts with their DH bikes? I'm confused.
  • 19 29
flag yupstate (Jul 19, 2021 at 18:54) (Below Threshold)
 @giantwhip: I"m sorry, so is your point that the vaccines don't work or they do work? If they do work, what do these other people have to worry about from the unvaccinated people that are refusing to think of other people? Also I don't think sick people are going DH mountain biking. Please read my original post again and let it sink in.
  • 33 25
 @yupstate: unvaccinated people are the reason you can't keep the virus under control in the states. Vaccinations work as well as they are designed but viruses change all the time. It's better to stay informed then paranoid
  • 13 10
 @pistol2ne: i understand you're trying to be a troll and you're in the minority on this topic. Ever wonder why you feel teamed up online when discussing this? It's cause you need to get out more and ask questions
  • 17 37
flag yupstate (Jul 19, 2021 at 19:02) (Below Threshold)
 @giantwhip: So should I get vaccinated so I don't get sick or will I get sick anyway because I'm vaccinated but the viruses are changing all the time? Also did you read my original post yet?
  • 22 14
 @yupstate: the one where you're stating a blatant lie in order to try and get new recruits? Yep read that one. Get off pinkbike and go back to the subreddits you love to spread conspiracies with. No one cares your opinion anymore
  • 16 39
flag yupstate (Jul 19, 2021 at 19:14) (Below Threshold)
 @giantwhip: I don't know what a subreddit is, but I do know what a medical professional is and that's where i get info. People I talk to in the field, not Pinkbike or MSNBC.
  • 32 17
 @yupstate: So Fox News?
  • 21 1
 @giantwhip: it is not a cure it is preventing mechanism, vaccines designed to prevent not cure
  • 14 1
 gotta love the PB comment section politics
  • 20 20
 @giantwhip:

"Unvaccinated people is why you can't keep it under control" So natural immunity is a conspiracy theory then? Me asking this question does NOT mean I suggest it over vaccination, just genuinely asking if you're that clueless. It's typically a good bellwether for how well one understands the pandemic.

And regarding me getting out. I've been on 3 round trip flights in the past month to go biking and partying. Maybe it's you that needs to turn off your online addiction.
  • 4 1
 @imnotdanny: Outside magazine comments*
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 @seraph: due to very low vitamin D levels and unhealthy lifestyles; predominately.
  • 8 6
 No need to fake it, we have plenty of vaccine, most of us already got vaccinated.
  • 44 6
 @giantwhip: I’m a medical provider, here’s some recent stats: since May 2021, 97% if all fatalities in the United Stated related to COVID were in unvaccinated people.

I’d suggest people get vaccinated, but it’s a personal decision.

If you’re vaccinated, you’re less likely to get sick from COVID, but if you do get sick from COVID you won’t get as sick.

Win, win.
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flag likeittacky (Jul 19, 2021 at 21:54) (Below Threshold)
 @nurseben: BS
  • 10 20
flag conoat (Jul 20, 2021 at 1:00) (Below Threshold)
 no no no, hopefully that is exactly what happens! do not play ZEE PAPERZ SIR! game with shitty governments. it's your duty to ignore illegitimate laws and regulations.
  • 2 4
 Fake cards ohhh never
  • 21 3
 @imnotdanny: who knew a bunch of 17 year olds that can't adjust a derailleur would also be shitty at politics!???

LOL
  • 14 15
 @pistol2ne: @giantwhip is very typical of someone who just eats up the normal news cycle mantra. Unvaccinated, American, hillbilly, Trump-voting, idiots running around with conspiracy theories in their head are root of any current problems. The vaccine is God and protects you unless you run into one of the aforementioned hillbillies; then all of a sudden it's like you're a 96 year old cancer patient that had a pre-existing immune deficiency.
  • 10 3
 @pistol2ne: what's your guess on the 62 olympians that tested positive, actually being sick? mine is 0. lol
  • 13 12
 @yupstate: Unfortunately or fortunately depending on which pill you took, Trumpers have the money to travel and buy bikes etc. Maybe Slow Biden will pass an enduro bike stimulus package for you.
  • 4 0
 So the card I bought from the Bike Shop isn't good?
  • 3 1
 @conoat: yup, pcr testing and CT cycles in the low 40s.
  • 2 4
 @conoat: the better question is what's the guess of those 62 vaccinated athletes actually being contagious.... Probably the same answer, zero.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: so you turn left on a red light !
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb: any time there isn't a camera! also Uturns when safe even though there's a sign forbidding it, the speed limit....you name it!

become ungovernable.
  • 2 0
 @conoat: you rebel lol
  • 3 2
 @seraph: now for the bit of the stat we won't be able to find, were they admitted to the hospital for COVID, or did they go to the hospital for something else? And what is the age/physiological demographic of those in the hospital?
  • 4 1
 @IsaacO: "hey you don't talk that way about my comfty, I fought in the war for 147 years, defeated all sorts of narcissists that were invading Poland, ask corn pop!" - Joe Biden probably
  • 1 0
 And I will be one of them
  • 4 4
 @nurseben: Weird. I'm a medical provider too and completely disagree with your statement.
  • 1 0
 @nurseben: It definitely works but its definitely a personal decision for sure, can't wait for final approval and better understanding of any potential long-term effects for which we have zero data. Thanks for your help, couldn't imagine working in Healthcare nowadays.
  • 61 2
 RIP bikepark lift lines
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flag evanmtbs (Jul 19, 2021 at 17:10) (Below Threshold)
 ya i was gonna go to whis this year but not anymore
  • 8 1
 And just as the lines started to be reasonable.
  • 1 1
 Broke my wrist and due back on the bike just in time for the the lift lines to explode.. as much as I want to see town return to normal and my friends (and mine) financial stability return to normal, I'm still not ready to town to get busy again!
  • 16 0
 @evanmtbs: What a coincidence. I was not gonna go to whis this year, but now I am
  • 3 1
 Beats "rip bike parks"
  • 57 4
 When America sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of bikes, and they're bringing those bikes to us. They're bringing style. They're bringing sends. They're park rats.
  • 32 0
 And some, I assume, are joeys
  • 48 3
 Thank you for reminding us that those dorks in Bentonville trademarked mtb capitol of the world.
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 Bentonville is an incredible bike vacation destination. I take two trips a year and that one was out of this world awesome. Never got in the car and rode hundreds of miles. Its a MTB Amusement Town. A MTB Themed Community. Able to bike to the bars, shops, etc.. I don't understand the hate. Because of their marketing team? Okay..
  • 12 1
 @JDUBKC: like you said, it’s like an amusement park. The trails are pretty sanitized and are not a good representation of mountain biking. It’s great for people who don’t want steep and gnarly riding, which is fine. However, it’s definitely not the mountain bike capitol of the world.

And yes, the dorks that I’m referring to are the marketing team.
  • 7 4
 @Mntneer: No disrespect but I cannot believe you have actually been there.
  • 2 0
 @Mntneer: I would also like to concede MTB Capitol is a stretch. We all know it's Crested Butte. Smile
  • 1 1
 @JDUBKC: I go to eureka springs to ride lake leatherwood and passion play in the winter. I stay for about 2 weeks. I never go to Bentonville.
  • 8 1
 @JDUBKC: it's a nice enough town, but the riding is really mediocre. All the trails are cross country or "flow" that you have to pedal your ass off for speed on. for people that like downhills, it's not worth it.
  • 2 0
 @JDUBKC: The fu@k. You never been to Durango? Actually we're kinda has beens so there's that. Never been to the Butte but would love to go. I hear it's fantastic.
  • 1 0
 @Brazinsteel: LOL.. Done. My next trip will be Durango.
  • 2 0
 @JDUBKC: Don't forget to ride Phil's World. Phil passed away early spring and might as well hoist a flagon of beer after the ride.
  • 38 1
 @mikekazimer better have his vaccine.
It's time for Mike vs Mike!
  • 51 1
 You better believe it. I'm already counting down the days.
  • 6 0
 @mikekazimer: be good to see you riding again in the neighbourhood Mike.
  • 3 0
 This comment is getting me so excited! Mike vs Mike is what we’ve been waiting for!
  • 31 0
 Can't wait to hit the trails in Nova Scotia!
  • 24 0
 Saskatchewan is where you find the real goods. These B.C. fools just don’t know.
  • 3 1
 @bocomtb: naw bro onterible got the goods haha
  • 29 2
 Welcome back my Yankee friends. Bring your money, Bring your vaccinated selves, Bring some Eagle chains too!
  • 34 0
 All your chains are belong to US! Haha
  • 2 0
 @RusMan: classic
  • 42 20
 Anti-vaxxers punching air right now. We'll be in Vermont in August, and I'm thrilled to be able to take my kid to Montreal. Over the moon, honestly. Thanks for letting us in, can't wait to stuff my face with poutine.
  • 1 0
 Not so fast, poutine-face.
  • 19 0
 Welcome back international bike friends. Bring spare parts
  • 18 0
 how about the opposite? Vermont calls me
  • 32 1
 Too much enamel on your teeth? Try one of our signature octuple IPAs! That'll be 17 dollars!
  • 5 3
 For sure, we should reciprocate the good will. Especially since your vaccination rates are higher now.
  • 3 0
 Vermont is waiting and ready. Pretty sure the NEK is missing those maple dollars.
  • 2 0
 We’re here for you, just make sure to tip well
  • 1 0
 Yeah, so far it’s one way only. They’re letting US citizens into Canada; other way, not so much yet.
  • 19 4
 Thank you for not pretending that somewhere in Arkansas can claim the title "Mountain Bike Capital of the World".
  • 25 16
 Perfect so I’m double vaccinated but I have to wear a mask everywhere in Ontario and can’t enjoy having a family get together without worrying about breaking covid laws but hey…. Let’s let mericans into the country thanks again Trudeau….
  • 9 2
 Yeah it’s pretty f*cked up. Like we’re just about through our first summer with freedom of movement here in BC in almost 2 years. If this f*cks things up for us…I’ll be mad?
  • 11 1
 @pcledrew: I’m happy that the border is opening but I totally agree with your sentiments. Maybe Canadian politicians are just as stupid and misguided as American ones?
  • 14 13
 Stay out the US then too, plenty of Canadians escape the winter in California, Utah, and Arizona, ya jagbag...
  • 1 0
 @fjallman82: they seem like stupid misguided..but they also act based on calculated risks... same here in France.. full of soft enforcement and contradicting rules and requirements.. relaxed restrictions last summer, shut down october, open christmas, shut down march, open gradually up until july.. and we'll see whats in the horizon for fall..
  • 9 17
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 4:49) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry the Canadian government is pumping the political virus soo much . We have never worn a mask, never locked down, free vax cards, trails galore. Like nothing ever happened but I hear people were biting hard on it.
  • 4 5
 @ReeferSouthrland: then stay where you are, simple. We all have choices to make.
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 @Dlakusta: I know that would be a very simple response from a very simple person, however I will travel anywhere I want like I always have. See how that works.
  • 6 1
 Don't blame Trudeau for the failings of your provincial government. In BC we aren't wearing masks everywhere and we can hang out in groups. Yes Trudeau is an absolute shit for brains. But your premier probably did meth with his brother...
  • 10 14
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 7:19) (Below Threshold)
 @TheBearDen: Welcome to earth, you can hang out in groups congrats, no masks very civilized, Slow Biden probably smoked parmasean with Hunter check. Sounds like reality knows no borders.
  • 10 8
 @ReeferSouthrland: uh oh. Someones living a mediocre life and doing what they can to mentally climb above everyone to help them forget about how they have discovered that their life is what it is and isn't gonna do much changing till they die.
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People like you are everywhere and as I get older it's more evident you all suffer from the same problem... Noone in your real life actually listens to you, and you deep down know this and you come to the internet in hopes to see a couple upvotes in your comments.
  • 4 10
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 7:40) (Below Threshold)
 @TheBearDen: Not reading all of your uneducated nonsense some of us are at work. Kids like you assume anything that gets you to sleep at night. Sweet dreams snowflake.
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 @ReeferSouthrland: haha. Yeah this is about the response I expected. If being 32 and owning your business makes me a kid, you can call me Tom Hanks because I'm Big.
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Enjoy punching in and punching out.
  • 3 7
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 @TheBearDen: Yea its actually does young guy, keep reaching for the top though.
  • 2 1
 @ReeferSouthrland: He kind of already reached the top though. That’s the benefit of owning your own business.
  • 3 7
flag ReeferSouthrland (Jul 20, 2021 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 @pikebait2013: I owned my own business at 16, big thanks for the support.
  • 2 0
 @Bushmaster123: At present; there’s no reciprocal arrangements to allow Canadians travelling the other way. Miss me some Moab, maybe by February…
  • 7 3
 @ReeferSouthrland: you must be the guy in the trump shirt I saw using the singles line in whis a couple years ago. Got to ride by yourself a few times as people kept skipping the chair. Was pretty funny to see...
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: I would say the calculated risks are based more on political sentiments and pandering than on actual science though.
  • 2 0
 @PartridgeSkillz: You're welcome anytime.
  • 2 1
 @sitkadog: No mo I'm the married with children guy staying at the Summit Lodge. With instincts as bad as yours , you should wear 2 helmets son.
  • 10 0
 Me roasting brake pads, casing jumps, and passing out in my hotel room by 7 after overeating at Splitz is anything but “non essential!”
  • 22 11
 sorry Canadians, i hope americans dont fuck everything up
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flag malobalo (Jul 19, 2021 at 20:40) (Below Threshold)
 you are forgetting that if it wasn't for american - canadians wouldn't have a vaccine.... !!!!
all our dumb PM could get us was astra zeneca which no-one wanted.
so thank you Trump administration + Big private Pharma Enterprise for making it possible for all of us to go biking in whistler!
cause it sure shit wasn't anyone else.....
  • 20 12
 My predictions:
Covid Spike in early August, masks become mandatory again by mid-August, next wave of lockdowns/ variants start in September
  • 3 1
 "Well, well here comes officer RideThicccBC, here to pull over are smiles because they have tinted windows"
  • 1 0
 Sooner than that! Any day now. We're doomed.
  • 22 14
 Vaccinated or not anyone who is not concerned about the precedent this is setting and possible future implications should give there heads a shake!
  • 12 2
 the world is for everyone, the mountains are for everyone...
  • 7 0
 Just remember fellow mericans, Covid vaccines are a direct 5G connection from your brain to Bill Gates and the Illuminati. Please stay safe on your side of the border, don't fall for their evil agenda.
  • 8 0
 Welcome back America! Come visit us in Revelstoke! Whistler is overrated...
  • 3 0
 In Whistler Blackcomb’s defense I’d like to offer that Vail hasn’t eaten Revelstoke yet.
  • 1 0
 @EricHarger: Generally speaking, I hate big corporations and their profit first mega resort mentality. I just got back from Vail ,CO. and had a blast, friendly staff, no lift lines, quality riding ( sure its not Whistler ). Zero complaints.
  • 6 0
 Need a Covid test to be able to enter. Had three of these in last 6 months. No thank you. Plenty of sufficiently good local trails south of the border. It is not worth the hustle.
  • 6 0
 So after 3 tests you know how easy it is. Why would the tests stop you?

Time and money stopping me and im only 5hrs away. Also, I accidentally let my passport expire last year. So i need to deal with that as well.
  • 16 7
 Papers Please
  • 7 12
flag joedave (Jul 19, 2021 at 21:37) (Below Threshold)
 Flashbacks to Nazi Germany reference?
Check
  • 3 4
 @joedave: comparing this to nazi Germany is @#$&ed up. Two different situations
  • 5 1
 We do know what the future will bring... But we've gotta do something and at least try. We won't truly know how well we as global community have beat this virus. Until we take those small steps forward. I'm cautiously optimistic. I live in major tourist city. I know the business sector here is in dire need of those tourist dollars. Locals just aren't enough, despite their best effort.

I just want anyone who is coming here, to be kind and gentle. Lots of people here aren't 100% comfortable with this idea yet. This is their home and Canada has had a rough go of thing lately. On many, many fronts, besides COVID. People are frazzled and exhausted. That being said... Summer is in full effect and welcome back!
  • 3 0
 Here in Toronto we had 20 new cases today and no deaths for 4 million people as long as the travellers can show fully vaccinated proof then come on down just remember we closed down our premier lift access at Blue Mountain here in Onterrible but Horseshoe is operating
  • 3 0
 The negative covid tests 72 hours before departure is still going to be too much hassle for many travellers. It’s expensive and time consuming. Will the whistler clinic be offering the tests, or will folks need to go to Vancouver.
  • 3 0
 I will miss no lineups and the ability to just drop into a restaurant but I see what COVID has done to the stores in Whistler and they need the business. It will be good for the vibe in Whistler to have everyone back. Sep 7th for the rest of the world.
  • 6 0
 Take off! To the great white north!
  • 6 0
 enjoy the inflation. happy trails
  • 5 0
 Better bring your own spare parts because there is fuck all available if ya break anything...
  • 2 0
 With Whistlers long lift lines, beat up trails full of brake bumps, limited trail maintenance due to lack of rain (*some areas have added irrigation!), hot and smoky weather and expensive lift tickets and hotels, let all that are fully vaccinated come and enjoy what they have been missing! Please bring some rain, some positive attitudes, and of course, $$$$!
  • 5 1
 I didn’t realize so many of our Northern Neighbors dislike us. Bummer. Sort of reminds me of how “Native” Coloradans despise transplants.
  • 4 0
 I feel the Canadians that come across as anti US. Are the ones that don't really live in places where many Americans come. Being from Vancouver Island and Vancouver. Americans have always been a part of my life. Especially tourists.. Yes every year there is some Dbag ripping up the Inlet, mass murdering salmon as they go... Acting a fool on the water and in town... Eventually they wear out their welcome and are never seen again... For the most part. Come April/May.... My hometown was open for business until October. Most of them are multi generational and this is their only vacation a year. They absolutely love small town BC. They become part of the town as much as the locals. Not having that influx of tourist income hit hard this last year. People lost their whole livelihood.
  • 5 0
 Keep it. Backyard trails rule. Keep it in the ground.
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 Word.
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 Canada gonna put up a paywall..
  • 4 1
 BC? there's no riding in BC. all the good stuff is in bellingham, i wouldn't visit BC - especially whistler.. what a waste of time Smile
  • 1 0
 @Heyshushu: labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471

First sentence of Pfizer's fact sheet.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older"

Pretty damn clear its not approved, just authorized. Words matter and we don't get to change there meaning to fit our ideas of whats true.

www.cvdvaccine.com Here's another link. They say front and center on there main page its not approved. Not sure why people keep insisting its approved, at least not in America.

As well you can look up the vaccine consent forms from your state and it will also say the vaccine is not approved.
  • 4 0
 Yay! Come on over brethren!!!
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 There will be an IQ test. We can't afford to build a wall. Should keep about 90 percent out.
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 Don’t really care at this point. Costs $200 to take a piss in a bathroom at Whistler. Canada’s government is just as screwed up and every other country. You’re in no better shape than the US or Europe.

I had to get A LOT of vaccines for my previous job. That was my choice. Get the shots and make money. Some of y’all on here are drinking too much Covid Koolaid the news is mixing up for you.
  • 1 0
 Cool story, bro.
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 I would implore you not to come, regardless of whether you took the shot or not. This is medical apartheid. Plus, as soon as we get the super scary delta variant in Canada the border will be closed again and you won't get refunds for your trip. Do NOT go along with this stupidity.
  • 3 0
 The border is only open one way
  • 3 0
 How about fully vaccinated EU residents?
  • 3 0
 mmmmm Poland perhaps?
  • 1 0
 @justincs: Don't say Poland!
  • 4 3
 September...

Can we just admit that those travel limitations are just arbitrary and stupid? Like the virus has ever stopped at a border...
  • 13 10
 Welcome to those that got your vaccination.
  • 2 0
 Does this mean we finally get the
Kaz and Levey DH/Enduro?downcountry race, finally!?!?!?
@mikekazimer
  • 1 0
 If you haven’t been yet, check out Saskatchewan. Seriously great riding. Don't do any research just go and see for yourself. Canada’s hidden gem of mountain biking.
  • 2 0
 A great boon for Canadian tourism industry.
  • 1 0
 On the same day Air Transat cancel flights due to no non essential travel allowed in to Canada
  • 2 0
 God damn I miss me some good poutine.
  • 2 4
 @gregthomas: Greg, you must be one of those suckers who have learned the difference between a "hypothesis" and a "scientific fact" (still subject to peer review - that has been canceled).

Plandemic, Scamdemic - in either case, Darwin prevails.
  • 1 0
 Damn... Planned my first bike trip to Canada early Sept.... I hope the people I meet in Canada don't lurk here. .
  • 1 0
 Historically, the masses almost always get it wrong in times of fervor, fear, and societal hubris. Add this one to the list.
  • 1 0
 Hey USA types, there are places to ride outside of whistler to. Cough Fernie cough...just saying...
  • 13 14
 No.no. NO. NO no no no no no.
I was just getting used to not having to deal with ridiculous "is that 10am American time" questions from tourists.
  • 1 0
 This is indeed good news Smile
  • 1 0
 let's invade Sentiers du Moulin, Whistler will just be a ruse
  • 1 0
 Finally! Awesome news.
  • 1 0
 COLD ONES
  • 1 1
 hahahahha - prove they are vaccinated, GTFO
  • 9 11
 I'm going to whistler the day before canada opens to the us. Just in time to not have absolutely horrible lift lines Smile
  • 6 5
 cool
  • 1 0
 Double post
  • 3 5
 Firgot wich thread this id Any way just checking on the u now what Is it here I mean There
  • 1 2
 Yay lift line waits .......f@ck
  • 4 5
 Just in time for the Delta variant!
  • 6 8
 We already have it up here, vaccines are doing a great job against it tyvm.
  • 2 3
 @Dlakusta: We thought the same in Spain, and now we are in the middle of an explosion of cases, rising much quicker than previous waves. At least most of vulnerable people are already vaccinated and it is protecting them, but all the young ones (and negationists without vaccine) are being infected like we have never seen before
  • 9 7
 but what about the Delta Welta double secret +++++ variant!????


*boooogaaawoooogaaaaaa*
  • 4 1
 @kirat: as you say though, it's still primarily about people not get vacinnated.
  • 7 9
 I knew this day would come; still not easy though
  • 1 2
 . Here come the pylons.
  • 3 6
 Free pass with a 1yr. Outside subscription I hear….
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