Canada to Reopen Borders for Nonessential Travel
In a news release today, the Canadian government announced that Canada will reopen its borders to fully vaccinated US residents August 9 and to all other fully vaccinated travelers September 7, provided that visitors can prove they are vaccinated and have tested negative for Covid within 72 hours of requesting access to Canada.
With the Whistler region largely considered (and voted by you all) to be the Mountain Bike Capital, this bodes well for riders in the US and elsewhere who have been hoping for their Canadian bike park fix.
That said, the news release made clear that the reopening plans are contingent on the virus staying in check, so Pinkbike encourages everyone to adhere to their local guidelines.
With the Whistler region largely considered (and voted by you all) to be the Mountain Bike Capital, this bodes well for riders in the US and elsewhere who have been hoping for their Canadian bike park fix.
That said, the news release made clear that the reopening plans are contingent on the virus staying in check, so Pinkbike encourages everyone to adhere to their local guidelines.
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My point is for a story like Dink posted about a terrible side effect to the vaccine there are terrible stories of the side effects of catching Covid. If you prefer a different news source.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5atlanta.com/news/at-24-florida-man-undergoes-double-lung-transplant-after-covid-19-destroys-his-lungs.amp
www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/563178-family-shares-warning-after-24-year-old-covid-19-patient-undergoes-double%3famp
Medical professional and degrees in research and stats here…so not goin to get into it about this as I already have to on a daily basis and it’s getting quite f*cking old. Whoever thinks it’s not approved just go to the website and read it’s not that difficult. Now whether you have any regards for FDA is another issue not for PB comment section.
Conclusion: Right now the vaccines are extremely safe and have high vaccine efficacy. Unfortunately too few people are immunized and more transmissible variants increase the level of immunization required to prevent epidemic oscillations (surges etc). Where I live over 1 million doses have been administered safely. During the month of June in a vaccine efficacy case control study we just completed (not FDA/Pharma funded or in anyway affiliated) we estimated 87% vaccine efficacy (81-95%).
If you don't believe me below is a pretty solid collection of references related to mRNA vaccine performance and safety:
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.27.21257583v1
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/8/21-1145_article
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7023e2.htm?s_cid=mm7023e2_w
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.24.21257738v2
www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00263-2/fulltext21
www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107456
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.22.21257658v1
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666379121001038
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.14.444076v1
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.13.444010v1
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7020e2.htm?s_cid=mm7020e2_w
jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2780700
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.442455v1
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.12.443888v1
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext21
academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab438/6276888
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00677-2/fulltext21
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7018e1.htm?s_cid=mm7018e1_w#contribAff
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21254636v1
academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab361/62537
Unless, of course, the “vaccine” isn’t really a vaccine.
Thus as much as we may not want to admit it, we are all interconnected (nationally and globally), low vaccine uptake in any part of population increases all of our risk even with excellent vaccines.
Media, CDC, Biden rhetoric about individual choice or "just get the vaccine and go about your business" makes me convinced they still don't understand how infectious disease transmission and immunity works and are laying the seeds for future vaccine hesitancy
Corona viruses are not a f*cking joke. SARS is another corona virus that was incredibly lethal but luckily had very low transmission rates. If we end up with a corona virus that is highly lethal AND spreads quickly it'll wipe out a huge chunk of the human race.
You are too busy worshipping the talking heads and being a good virtue-signaling minion that you fail to understand these simple facts:
- only about 12% of the world's population has contracted COVID
- vax is 90% effective
combine those two statistics and tell me why any vaccinated person would worry about being in an outdoor lift line with unvaccinated folks.....
Also amazing (almost magical) how the COVID rate dropped like a rock starting on/around January 6......
Pushed to Aug 21... for now.
Listen here Pacboy , I really don’t give a f*ck if you get a vax or not , just hope you don’t catch Covid and spread it to someone who’s vulnerable and suffers from your misinformed action !
I have know issue with being outdoors amongst anyone whose not jabbed !
Didn’t vaccines become available in January, might answer your last comment !
You are correct in assuming that we are not likely going to eradicate COVID from the planet, but with wide global vaccine coverage + immunity from primary infection the disease prevalence and the morbidity and death can be severely limited. Millions of deaths, hospitalizations, and illnesses averted every year
You are misinformed about the vaccine and EUA: Typical vaccine trials have 3 phases, all of the current vaccines have gone through phase I (safety) phase II (dosing) phase III efficacy/effectiveness and population level safety with monitoring for 2 years. All vaccines successfully went though phases I and II just like any other vaccine, the phase III was started and only 7 days after the second dose (Moderna/Pfizer) the vaccine was given EUA because it was safe had extremely limited but plausible effectiveness. However, we are now 10 months out from when the phase III trials were started and interim analyses at six months confirmed vaccine efficacy >90% and with hundreds of millions of doses administered have an excellent safety profile (Certainly better than most other vaccines and orders of magnitude better than most drugs). At this point these immunizations will be licensed by any global drug and safety regulatory body once they Phase III trial completes.
You also are misinformed about the vaccine targets: All of the EUA vaccines express the ENTIRE spike protein that starts within your own cell. This results in a wide range of antibodies to the different portions of the spike protein as well as primes both CD8+ and CD4+ memory T cells. This is why even with a high preponderance of variants with multiple spike mutations the vaccines are still performing very well.
About vaccines, mutations, and spike protein:
www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00573-0?utm_source=sn&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=RM&utm_campaign=BSLB_1_CA01_BSLB_AWA_CA01_GL_LSGR_PubH_Coronavirus_LandingPage
pretty easy to figure out unless your a Trumper.
Truthfully, even after FDA licensure of most drugs/vaccines there is still uncertainty especially if the clinical trials only involved a relatively small group of the population. However, these immunizations are light years ahead because so many people have already received them meaning the rare adverse events have already been mostly identified. Really the only unknowns are how long they will provide immunity for though reformulation of different mRNA is quite easy which is another major positive.
Pharma company lobbying, immunity from liability, and selling us back vaccines that we already paid for with NIH grant dollars (Moderna, and most of the Pfizer and J&J technology as well) is super despicable. However, that does not change the fact that these vaccines are safe and working, but this should be a motivator to pressure legislatures to hold big pharma accountable.
I wish I could edit the post dammit
Throughout this thread you have made it patently clear that you hold a position which is not based on science, and in true conspiracy theorist style this position is unaffected by evidence, further demonstrating that you do not base this position on evidence but on a belief. To argue or reason with you is pointless as you are not open to change and are quick to resort to non-sequitors.
The efficacy of the vaccinations is already very clear as has already been pointed out (and self-evident from the death rate among vaccinated populations), there is no grand experiment, you are not a victim, you are a bog standard antivaxxer with all the tropes.
I'm sure you'll reply to this with some insult, some non-sequitor, some challenge for more evidence (that's a classic trope), some other demand which, if even possible to deliver, would result in another. And on it would go.
More over - Monday of this week we lost a very good friend. She effectively had "cancer of the cancer" and died in her home with her loving family (who came from across the country to be with her). She stopped chemo about 8 weeks ago as there was no good prognosis...and yet, in the numbers, she is listed a COVID death...why does that fact alone not strike you as concerning?
Flu vaccinations, including the Covid-19 one, are very well evidenced. It's not called "ChinaFlu", and the fact that you've used that term is very telling.
"No one on the side of vaccines" - implies that you aren't on the side of vaccines (and therefore logic, reason or knowledge) and explains your ignorance of basic terminology.
Saying something is merely a hypothesis or theory without understanding what those terms mean is classic antivaxxer stuff - as are non-sequitors, like your bizarre booze and smoking comparison.
As I said, replies like yours are to be expected and are classic antivaxxer nonsense. It's a bit like talking to religious zealots, no matter what is said, they are impervious to fact, and are unable to understand the answers when they're given.
Again, survival of the fittest. If YOU want it, YOU take it. From there - way off base... but, say we cure cancer. Where in the hell are the "survivors" going to live and how are we going to feed them? Simply, the weak need to die for the better of the strong. Those who blindly listed dogmatically to the Govt are by definition - weak.
Salmonella is a PERFECT example of a comparison...because, if you LOOK for it, you will FIND it - every time, every day, every trip to every store...if you go looking for something, chances are you will find it (unless you are looking for a well educated human, then your chances are getting lower and lower. Self sustaing is even harder to find).
Instead of making ridiculous, completely unsubstantiated claims, why don’t you enlighten us all with your vast knowledge and answer the question I asked?
If only 12% of the global population contracted the virus (pre-vax, through Dec. 2020), and the vax has a 90% efficacy, why would any vaxxed person be fearful of mingling with, “delusional, anti-vax Trumpers” at Whistler?
I’m all ears!
DCA made a snide remark about the border being open, so folks at Whistler should be careful of, "delusional anti-vax Trumpers". I replied with two statistics. The first one was that about 12 in 100 people (through Dec 2012, pre-vax) contracted the virus. The second one was that the vax has at least a 90% efficacy rate (a 90% reduction in transmission rate).
So, 90% reduction of a 12% transmission rate of a virus that is only serious to a very small percentage of people who contract it leaves a vaccinated person concerned about being outdoors, socially distanced from a non-vaccinated person why?
All of this would be so much simpler if you just had your own brain and the wherewithal to use it to critically consider the facts and then use that information to extrapolate whether or not that risk is worth it for you to co-mingle with said delusional folks in order to get your Whistler fix. Instead, you just want to insult strangers on a bicycle forum to stroke your own fragile ego, to make you appear intellectually superior, when in reality you have proven to be a moronic liberal f*cktard who just wants to continue parroting his exalted leaders' propaganda and do the virtue-signaling dance for all of you peers to see.
I'm definitely not an anti-vaxxer and have all the common vaccines children in the USA get along with my 3 kids and wife. I've done my part to protect my family and friends during all of this, so my decision until I feel safe with the potential risks involved and baring final approval for the vaccine then I will continue watching the science and hoping we got this shit right cause alot of healthy people could get right f*cked by this vaccine if not, it's totally plausible.
Along with that lovely :lol Majorie Taylor Green who refuses to say she’s had it yet feeds the anti vaxxers with rubbish . To put it mildly!
In life we often have to play poker. The sooner the rest of the herd comprehends that we are all mortal, the better we are. To that, the other day I went to the funeral of the woman who died from cancer...the Govt claims she died with ChinaFlu - on the way there I nearly died getting hit by a truck running from the police....life is fragile. Ride your bike.
(2:38 - I am in the blue Mercedes @ the gas station - www.facebook.com/mcsoflorida/videos/2862010560729496)
Let me know if you figure out that pizza spot, I've given up on the pizza here
The irony is Whistler is populated/settled by people from other continents (Australia, France, New Zealand) trying to keep tourists out?!? LOL.
Actually what's happening is a pcr testing failure/issue that a lot have been claiming for months now.... Testing after you've been vaccinated is bogus and stupid unless you're sick.
Yikes
"Unvaccinated people is why you can't keep it under control" So natural immunity is a conspiracy theory then? Me asking this question does NOT mean I suggest it over vaccination, just genuinely asking if you're that clueless. It's typically a good bellwether for how well one understands the pandemic.
And regarding me getting out. I've been on 3 round trip flights in the past month to go biking and partying. Maybe it's you that needs to turn off your online addiction.
I’d suggest people get vaccinated, but it’s a personal decision.
If you’re vaccinated, you’re less likely to get sick from COVID, but if you do get sick from COVID you won’t get as sick.
Win, win.
LOL
become ungovernable.
And yes, the dorks that I’m referring to are the marketing team.
It's time for Mike vs Mike!
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People like you are everywhere and as I get older it's more evident you all suffer from the same problem... Noone in your real life actually listens to you, and you deep down know this and you come to the internet in hopes to see a couple upvotes in your comments.
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Enjoy punching in and punching out.
all our dumb PM could get us was astra zeneca which no-one wanted.
so thank you Trump administration + Big private Pharma Enterprise for making it possible for all of us to go biking in whistler!
cause it sure shit wasn't anyone else.....
Covid Spike in early August, masks become mandatory again by mid-August, next wave of lockdowns/ variants start in September
Time and money stopping me and im only 5hrs away. Also, I accidentally let my passport expire last year. So i need to deal with that as well.
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I just want anyone who is coming here, to be kind and gentle. Lots of people here aren't 100% comfortable with this idea yet. This is their home and Canada has had a rough go of thing lately. On many, many fronts, besides COVID. People are frazzled and exhausted. That being said... Summer is in full effect and welcome back!
First sentence of Pfizer's fact sheet.
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older"
Pretty damn clear its not approved, just authorized. Words matter and we don't get to change there meaning to fit our ideas of whats true.
www.cvdvaccine.com Here's another link. They say front and center on there main page its not approved. Not sure why people keep insisting its approved, at least not in America.
As well you can look up the vaccine consent forms from your state and it will also say the vaccine is not approved.
I had to get A LOT of vaccines for my previous job. That was my choice. Get the shots and make money. Some of y’all on here are drinking too much Covid Koolaid the news is mixing up for you.
Can we just admit that those travel limitations are just arbitrary and stupid? Like the virus has ever stopped at a border...
Kaz and Levey DH/Enduro?downcountry race, finally!?!?!?
@mikekazimer
Plandemic, Scamdemic - in either case, Darwin prevails.
I was just getting used to not having to deal with ridiculous "is that 10am American time" questions from tourists.
*boooogaaawoooogaaaaaa*
I have the news for that , this, is pure click bait garbage, absolutely nothing to do with mtb…by your logic, Pinkbike should also report the crash of real estate since it affects the economy and by such, the bike industry and bike “ tourism” industry would subsequently be impacted…
The government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance had said 60% of those taken to hospital with COVID-19 have been vaccinated twice, but the figure is actually among the unvaccinated.