The very large majority of short and mid-travel bikes come spec'd with an air-sprung shock of some sort, usually in the name of weight savings, but also because it's generally accepted that rigs sporting less than 150 or 140mm of travel should be held up by air rather than a coil. But, thanks to evolved geometry and frame design, and changing attitudes towards what a rider can do on a short-travel bike, many of these so-called ''little bikes'' aren't exactly being ridden like little bikes anymore.
Enter Cane Creek's new DBcoil [IL], a slimmer version of their piggyback shock that offers all of the same adjustments that you're used to seeing on a Cane Creek product, including their Climb Switch feature, but in a more compact package. According to Cane Creek, the DBcoil [IL] is designed to, ''bridge the performance gap between trail bikes and long-travel downhill rockets,'' while also bringing, ''all of the function of an external reservoir coil shock into a lighter and sleeker package.'' Picture a DBcoil CS with its piggyback cleaved off to create a smaller silhouette and allow it to fit on even more bikes, and you'll get the idea.
Internally, it employs the Twin-Tube damper that you'd expect to see, and riders can adjust low- and high-speed rebound, as well as low- and high-speed compression via their familiar looking gold dials. There's also the Climb Switch function that applies a boatload of low-speed rebound and compression when activated, to increase pedaling performance without sacrificing traction.
The DBcoil [IL] will come stock on select Ghost bikes.There is surely less demand for a coil-sprung inline shock than there is for an air-sprung version, and Cane Creek admits in their press release that they dismissed the project at first. ''This shock almost never left the R&D lab,'' said design engineer Brandon Blakely, but he built a few prototype test samples in his spare time that ended up being ridden by other employees. Those early shocks must have impressed because the project went from 'no' to 'go' shortly after that. Now, here we are with a much sleeker production model of Blakely's early prototype.
So, what is this shock for? After all, air-sprung shocks are pretty dialed these days, not to mention the ability to easily adjust their spring rate to suit the demands of nearly any rider. Even so, I could see how someone might prefer that coil feel over shedding some weight off their Banshee Spitfire, Kona Process, or Transition Scout - all of which are relatively short-travel bikes that don't mind a bit of partying.
Cane Creek's optional VALT steel springs cost $130 USD and drops a considerable amount of weight, compared to a standard coil.The DBcoil [IL] can be bought with a standard steel spring or Cane Creek's new, $130 USD VALT spring, and it's when you install the latter that the weight starts to get close to that of its air-sprung competition. Much like some other steel springs these days, Cane Creek says that the high-quality steel used to manufacture the VALT allows them to use less material in the coils, and less material equals, you guessed it, less weight.
And how does the new shock ride? A lot like Cane Creeks's piggyback-equipped DBcoil CS, so much so that I doubt anyone could ever tell the two apart. I spent an entire day riding North Carolina's Beech Mountain Ski Resort on a 2017 Ghost with a DBcoil [IL] bolted to it, and it was obvious that anyone who's a fan of the company's original coil-sprung shocks is also going to be a fan of the DBcoil [IL]. The same Twin-Tube feel is there, as is the same effective adjustment range that allows you to make the shock feel exactly how you want. There is, of course, less oil volume due to the [IL] not having a piggyback, but I highly doubt that most riders really do need that increased volume. Unless you are you doing top-to-bottom Garbonzo runs at Whistler on your 140mm-travel bike, then you should be just fine.
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As new gen air shocks are presented as "coil like" feel, why should I put air shock to my DH bike to get coil like feel instead just keeping my real coil shock..
Huh? Who told you this? They lied. Ask for your money back.
You can argue all you want about how "if it's good enough for the pros, it's good enough for me" but most of us wouldn't ride DH on the tires they do, because we need something that can stand up to our less than smooth riding, & lasts longer than a weekend.
In any case coil is superior in virtually every case, and DH bikes can easily be designed to perform well with them in terms of leverage curve progression (most already do, since most DH frames have reasonably progressive LR curves). Hopefully we will see a return to coil forks too soon.
You are always trying to "get the most out of your travel" regardless of 100mm or 220mm. Whatever that even means btw.
And leverage ratio has to do with suspension type and how it's tuned. More specifically, leverage ratio has to do with leverage ratio! Independent of travel.
It'll be replaced with one of these coils though.
Another thing it sounds like is air shocks are much more tune able for the type of trails. I wonder how much the climb levers though have changed that.
The problem is, you need to change the spring to change the stiffness. In an ideal world, you'd try three or four different ones per rider per bike per riding style. That's bad for dealers and customers alike. The air shock can be infinitely adjusted with a simple shock pump. Shuttles today, XC loop tomorrow? No worries, just inflate.
This is the reason air shocks have taken over. The marketers have cleverly realised they can keep selling the weight savings and while conveniently ignoring the inferior performance.
Coil like feel? It says it all. If you want coil like, get a coil and forget about 400g weight penalty. You'll never notice that weight with all the extra fun you're having. More grip both up and down. It's a win-win!
RC... Constantly proving himself wrong and never tiring of it. Whatever happened to the "Tantrum" he recently endorsed btw? Smh..
I would guess it more comes down to personal preference.
Which bought about the introduction of pro-pedal, platform dampers and cheap base models with nothing but a spring backed check valve to control damping, the market has become saturated with xc/pedalling orientated suspension that has piss poor bump performance, non existent mid-stroke and using 'tokens' as a substitute for bottom out damping.
People are now mistaking the air spring as being the reason for terrible performance when really its the sh!t dampers behind them.
My 2002 fox vanilla r coil both pedalled and ploughed bumps better than any of the pro-pedal platform shocks that fox has since produced for the last decade and a half as it had proper shim based damping.... Makes me laugh when I read people reciting 'how far advanced suspension has become' when really we're only just catching back up with 2005 thanks to companies with their heads screwed on right like Cane creek, producing budget options with decent damping again - Thanks Cane creek!
coil info
Strokes/Rates: 2.0 x 400, 450, 500 // 2.25 x 350, 400, 450, 500, 550 // 2.5 x 400, 450, 500, 550 // 2.75 x 400, 450, 500 // 3.0 x 300, 350, 400, 450, 500 // 3.5 x 300, 350, 400
At the same relative weight as an air shock, why wouldn't you want to ride a coil?
Now I want a lightweight coild fork
How did the Ghost feel with that particular shock?
I have the same bike with a Monarch plus and have considered moving to a coil.
Yes that's minus spring...Vault spring weight not listed on their site..
Ahh okay gotcha. Didn't know that, thanks for the clarification!
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