Cannondale 2017 Preview - Press Camp 2016

Jun 23, 2016
by AJ Barlas  
Press Camp 2016


Cannondale Bad Habit for 2017


Cannondale Bad Habit Carbon 1

New for 2017, Cannondale's Bad Habit 27.5+ bike is going carbon. It features 120mm of travel, the brand’s Ai (Asymmetric Integration) offset drivetrain—which allows shorter chainstays, some of the shortest in the category, and a better dished rear wheel. The bike is shod with 3.0" tires and Cannondale's new Hollowgram rims, which feature a 40mm internal width and are constructed from superlight hi-impact carbon.

Details

• Carbon front triangle, alloy rear
• 27.5+ wheels
• 3.0" tires on a 40mm internal width rim
• Shimano XTR 1x11 drivetrain
• S, M, L, XL
• MSRP: TBC


Bottom mount front derailleur
Front derailleur compatibility.
Cannondale s own Hollowgram plus sized wheels feature a 40mm internal width
Cannondale's carbon Hollowgram Plus wheels.


Cannondale s 2017 Habit SE Carbon 1

Cannondale Habit Carbon SE

For 2017 Cannondale have taken their Habit Carbon SE trail bike and fitted it with a Rockshox Pike. The bike comes with 130mm of travel up front and 120 in the rear (via a Fox Float DPS) and is also fitted with SRAM GX 1x11 drivetrain, Fox Transfer dropper, a 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary up front, a Nobby Nic in the rear, and SRAM Guide R brakes. The Fox Transfer seatpost comes in a 125mm variation on the size small while the rest of the range are fitted with a 150mm.

Details

• Carbon front triangle, alloy rear
• 27.5" wheels
• Rockshox Pike RC Boost 130 fork
• Fox Float DPS shock
• 142x12 rear
• 2.35 Schwalbe Magic Mary front, Nobby Nic rear
• SRAM X1 1x11 cassette and derailleur
• S, M, L, XL
• MSRP: TBC



Carbon link for rear shock
The Habit Carbon SE's carbon shock link.
Rockshox RC Boost 130 fork
Rockshox Pike RC Boost with 130mm of travel.


Cannondale Cujo plus bike

Cannondale Cujo 1 27+

With the growing interest in Plus wheeled bikes and Cannondale’s own models for the category, the brand has created another model for 2017; the Cujo. The Cujo is the brand's entry-level 27.5+ bike and is very competitively priced. It still offers modern geometry that makes it a very capable and comfortable handler, and while prices are yet to be confirmed, the Cujo series will range from around $980–$1408 US.

Details
• 27.5+ wheels
• WTB Ranger Comp 3.0" tires
• Shimano Deore brakes
• FSA MegaExo Boost cranks
• SRAM NX 1x11 cassette and GX derailleur
• Tapered headtube
• XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL
• MSRP: TBC



Cannondale Scalpel Women s

Cannondale Women’s Scalpel SI Carbon 2

The 2016 women’s Scalpel carbon features all the great components and features of the men's model, only in a smaller version, making the bike a little more comfortable for the ladies that want to rip. Where the men's bike is shod with a set of 29” wheels (other than a size small, which is 27.5), all of the women’s size run for the bike sit on the smaller 27.5" wheels. The bike still utilizes 100mm of travel front and rear.

Details
• Aggressive XC race geometry for the rowdier tracks
• Full carbon frame
• 100mm travel front and rear
• 100mm Lefty 2.0 carbon
• Rockshox Monarch RL rear shock
• Stan's ZTR Rapid 25, 32 hole, tubeless ready, 27.5" wheels
• Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25 tires
• Shimano XT 2x11 drivetrain
• XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL
• MSRP: $4,260 US


Carbon upper link on the Scalpel
Carbon upper shock link.
The Scalpel contains a little housing area for Di2 inside the top tube above the upper shock mount
Removing the upper shock bolt allows access to the housing area for Di2 inside the top tube.

The bike features a 2x11 Shimano XT drivetrain and brakes with 160mm rotors front and rear, the Lefty 2.0 carbon 100mm up front and uses a RockShox Monarch RL to suspend the rear. The SI series features a slightly more aggressive XC geometry to give confidence on the new wave of XC race tracks being seen around the world. Additionally, the frame features a housing space within the top tube for those looking to run Di2, and is easily accessed by removing the forward mount of the rear shock. The bike retails for $4,260 US


MENTIONS: @Cannondale




122 Comments

  • + 130
 Oh, it's that time of the year again...
So...Rich people.. these are great bikes, probably 150% better and faster than your -pretty much new- current bikes.
Now go sell them half price to us - the guys that spend half of our internet time looking secondhand ads.
  • + 47
 Its like Christmas for us classified hounds
  • + 5
 Riiiight!
  • + 5
 Bourgeois
  • + 7
 We let the rich people pay the depreciation hit so we can get the great bikes for half price. You know, the price they are really worth.
  • + 42
 Oh, it's that time of the year again...

We get to listen to poor people pretend they'd rather be poor and feed off stupid "rich" people's sloppy seconds than be "rich".

Sorry, but it comes across as envious...you don't sound smarter....only envious.
  • + 9
 I've always thought most of the people buying these bikes are employees or have a hookup and get them at 50% off MSRP. Even if you buy through an authorized internet dealer you should get 15-20% off.
  • + 6
 @gooded: Sounding envious it is then. I'll dine out for years on envious.
  • + 4
 commencal
  • + 5
 looks like a stumpjumper
  • + 2
 @gooded: theres a difference between being poor and envious, and profiting off the stupidity of people willing to spend more than necessary to have the newest colour scheme.
  • + 20
 @bluumax: I agree. I've purchased my last 6 bikes used. Most of those I rode for one season, and sold at minimal loss. But, I don't have anything against someone buying a new bike. It's their money. I just find it strange to give the people that buy new bikes a hard time. Maybe they're too busy to spend "half of their internet time looking at classifieds". Their probably busy providing jobs to people. Buy their bikes used. But it doesn't mean they're stupid. My comment was a reply to the original poster. Your comment makes sense. I just think you misunderstood me. Buying used bikes doesn't make you envious. Calling them stupid rich people gets you pretty close though.
  • + 4
 @bluumax: the best is when you take your 10 year old bike and smoke the guy with a brand new carbon machine that just told you what you need to be faster at the trailhead.
  • + 7
 It isn't just about being rich, it is about what you're willing to invest in. Some people buy an expensive cellphone every year and a big data bundle to go with that, some spend more money on their car than they really need to, some enjoy expensive wine or dining in fancy restaurants. And some don't want any of that but ride loads everyday and have been saving up for a bike like this because it makes them happy. I see no wrong. And if they have the money I can imagine they'd rather protect their eyes from excessive computer use (browsing ads) and go out and ride instead. And I honestly doubt they buy a new one every year.

Which doesn't mean to say that Cujo mentioned there is going to be insanely expensive.
  • - 2
 @vinay: precisely ...... @browner said he'd "dine out for years.....", I'd rather own a sick bike than go out to eat....but whatever floats your boat....it's your money
  • + 1
 So you are angry that companies release yearly updates on their products? How do you even get through a single day without exploding then given that that is pretty much how it has been for a very very long time.
  • + 1
 @gooded: Its an idiom. The point is owning a sick bike and having cash are not mutually exclusive
  • + 4
 @gooded:

It's the internet, people go to it just to express hate. Shit, look at facebook, and they don't even hide their real names.

The issue is most people are full of shit and feed their own anger because they are bored with no imagination.
  • + 0
 @keystonebikes: The problem with these articles is the comments where people make up confrontations between people that don't actually happen.
  • + 1
 @n3sta: not sure what you mean so i made up a confrontation and downvoted you.
  • + 2
 @vinay: the fastest racers, of any discipline, will always have the latest stuff. In over twenty years of racing I have never seen anyone stand on a podium who had a bike more than one or two seasons behind.
  • + 1
 @keystonebikes: I meant the above comment for you, not vinay.
  • - 3
 Consistantly fugly ass bikes is the cannondouche legacy.
  • + 1
 @gooded: %150 agree with this! and I'm not even rich...I just prioritize well...So a new bike for me it is every couple seasons..????
  • + 1
 @browner: Ill dine out for years and ride new bikes every couple on envious..
  • + 1
 @gooded: I ride my sick bike hard for 2-5 its then ride to the patio where I dine out and drink quality ???? ????
  • + 1
 @keystonebikes: upvotes/downvotes who gives a shit!
  • + 4
 I must have a new bike and girlfriend every 6 months or I throw a huge hissy fit. Money is no object and I also 1 time wear all my underwares. But enough about me lets talk about me.
  • + 2
 @fecalmaster: yessss! Sounds just like me!!
  • + 1
 @fecalmaster: You wear yours for a full day , I change my underwear out again at noon everyday
  • + 1
 @fecalmaster: I wear my underwear normal, inside out, upside down, then inside up reverse. So roughly the same pair every four days.
  • + 35
 Beautiful purple paint job on the Habit!
  • - 2
 Seriously! Now if they offered that paint job on something that wasn't a Cannondale.
  • + 1
 @dirtworks911: 2016 kona explosif hardtail is similar!? One of the best value steel trail rippers going. Also konas alu honzo is purple too!?
  • + 4
 @dirtworks911: The Habit is flipping mega!!
  • + 1
 Before I even read anything about it I just thought... "want one!"
  • - 3
 That was my first thought. Damn thats a good looking bike, wish it wasn't on a cannondale.
  • + 1
 @dirtworks911: I definitely wouldn't buy this bike but would definitely buy a custom purple paint job.
  • + 20
 "MSRP: TBC"
Does this mean "Totally Blitz Credit-card"
  • + 19
 turbo boobies club
  • + 16
 The Ballers Club: if you have to ask, you cant afford
  • + 5
 "Totally beyond comprehension"
  • - 1
 The bacon card of course, all members of this exclusive card will learn price quite soon
  • + 1
 Total Bull Chit
  • + 11
 Could you finish similar statements in future reviews with the actual numbers?

"which allows shorter chainstays, some of the shortest in the category"

Not trying to be a jerk, but having a number in there might make me interested in the bike. Thanks for listening.
  • + 2
 415mm, I just measured* it myself. Can't trust a factory fact sheet.
*I'm totally lying.
  • + 9
 The purple Cannondale Habit Carbon SE is the carbon Transition Bandit many were looking for....
  • + 3
 Couldn't agree more.. I ride a bandit 26 and would love to upgrade to one of these
  • + 4
 So i rode a 27.5+ bike for a few hours the other day and i didnt like it. I found it to be slow in acceleration and handling. I like a fast bike. I did notice the extra grip when climbing and cornering but found that to be boring. Yeah i dont like wheel slipage when climbing but i like using my body language to "force" the bike into cooperation. Again when cornering, both on smooth and rough, i like a bit of man handling and drifting. It will obviously be more dependent on the trails and conditions but i like to retain a bit of feel for whats going on under my wheels and that was lost. I ride a 27.5 steel hardtail with 2.3" tyres most of the time so admittedly im at that end of the spectrum of liking to feel the trail but even with my old Spitfire in 27.5 2.3" i still had more feel for the trail. Anyway just my thoughts as its the first time ive ridden one. :-)
  • + 2
 You should try the 2.1" tires - connection nirvana. No wonder roadies love them 23mm's.
  • + 4
 @ZigaK13: 25mm is where it's at. I'm never going back to 23!
  • + 1
 @zephxiii: chek out Compass 700C x 32 Stampede Pass - 32 is the new 25
  • + 1
 @ZigaK13: I don't think those would fit. The 25's I have now stretched out to 27mm and there's just enough clearance, I'm not sure if I could fit 28s even if they are gonna stretch out like the 25s did.
  • + 1
 @zephxiii: I know you need a new bike Smile Btw where is the tight spot? The chainstays or the brakes?
  • + 1
 @ZigaK13: Both chainstays and fork. I can't complain though, only paid 500 bux for it and 25mm makes me happy.
  • + 6
 What about the new enduro bike?
  • + 6
 Wheres the new Trigger and Jekyll. thats what we want to see!
  • + 6
 Bring back the dh frames!
  • + 6
 I'm pretty taken by the Habit Carbon to be honest....
  • + 1
 Maybe I am just getting all Tin Foil Hat-y here but.......How much are these companies talking to each other on product lines and development? I find it a little unnerving that those two colour ways (green/blue and purple/orange) are EXACTLY the same as the Specialized Stumpjumpers in the Destination Trail video.

Are there actually people sitting in a room saying "what colours and features should we sell them this year guys??"
  • + 1
 There are certainly "in" colors, in clothing anyway. I would bet the bike industry is no different.
  • + 6
 That purple is gangsta.
  • + 1
 as a LONGTIME cannondale rider/ racer, i can honestly say that im HAPPY that they DONT make a DH rig anymore !!!!! had a ''JUDGE'' years back and had to replace parts on rear shock linkage ALL THE f*ckING TIME.. TOTALLY OVERLY complicated AND FLAWED linkage design, bushings wore out CONSTANTLY, and got to the point that i couldnt get parts so had to fabricate parts MYSELF..( hangs on my wall now next to my gemini, jeckyll, and super v DH frames...)
  • + 1
 Love the look of the Habit, mainly because the lack of a Lefty. Ive owned a lefty, recently, and while I did enjoy it and found it to be stiff and fluid, A: to take your ands off the handle bars just riding around and your done. B: Not a shop would service it. Done Nadda. Not even the Cannonale stores service dept in town would work on it. And there'a a few competent bike shops in Bellingham, Wa.

That said, Mendon Cyclesmiths on the East Coast where I would have to send it to have it serviced was quick turn around. Thank God I don't have to mail off my fork anymore. Hello trusty, user friendly PIKE.
  • + 2
 Those shops are lame, I can service a lefty for in 40 minutes with only 1 proprietary tool. I've only done it once before even. Shops like that make me wonder why they stay in business if they're service department can't even work on the bikes they sell.
  • + 2
 @samvegg:

its 2 tools Smile castle tool and the shaft clamps Smile
and yes, super easy to rebuild a lefty. for sure easier to do a lefty than to rebuild the fox RC2 fit cartridge.. IMHO
  • + 1
 I am sorry, but until they kill off the lefty, there is no way I am buying a Cannondale...I am sure they work just fine and it is just me...
  • + 8
 I'd be less concerned with the Lefty, than I was with those pull shocks. Nope, wouldn't want a Lefty. It's getting great reviews as a fork right up there with a Pike - but with much higher service/maintenance requirements - so why wouldn't you just get a Pike? But you can (and always could) get around the Lefty, because they have builds with standard forks. But that stupid pull shock - well, that you were stuck with. And that thing supposedly needed to be sent in for service all the damn time - and being proprietary, how long until you wouldn't be able to get it worked on anymore when parts run out?
  • - 1
 I am with you .. just don't see the value or advantage in the lefty .. also never having ridden one either.

Other than that, the bikes look nice .. especially the "non-lefty" models.
  • + 2
 what g-42 said. Lefty's work great, but are high maintenance.
  • + 5
 @vokes: I rode a carbon Jekyll with a Lefty and the two-mode pull shock. Amazing bike - switching the shock to the short travel mode and firming up the Lefty a bit really made it sit up and turn into a much more agile climber than a bike with that much travel had any business being. But it wasn't really an on-the-fly sort of thing. So much complexity, and so much proprietary crap. That was a demo bike, and it was for sale for a while at a really good price - I wasn't really all that interested, not only because that was too much bike for me (both in terms of price, even at a huge discount, and in terms of what a beast it was downhill - I'd get myself in trouble with that much capability), but definitely because I wouldn't have wanted to saddle myself with something that creates that much future maintenance cost and hassle.

Yes, the dual mode pull shock is clever - but I don't think the benefits are worth the drawbacks. Same with Canyon's shapeshifter frames - seems like overkill and too much complexity. And the Lefty is a solution looking for an answer - so much effort spent on building a cool one-stanchion fork - why? Just to be up to par with RS and Fox at a slightly higher price?
  • + 7
 @vikingsteve42:
Isn't part of "working great" being LOW maintenance?
  • + 12
 You should listen to yourselfs Leftie racists: "I hate the leftie but never ridden it."
Do you even know the definition of the word "hate"? Sure you may not like the look but HATE? How can you hate it if you've NEVER ridden it!!!
The Leftie is way stiffer than any single crown fork out there due to its square shape leg. It is a great piece of engineering from a company who dares to think outside the box. Sure sometimes it doesn't work (thinking outside the box that is) but you gotta try. How many companies can say the same?
  • + 4
 @SintraFreeride: it's people who think outside the box that have left us with 1 million axles standards
  • + 3
 @g-42: i am weekend warrior -mtb is not my priority, bought cdale 3 years ago for xc-cardio and trial and never serviced lefty -sure it would worked better but had rock shox, marz66 in the past and they needed servicing (rock shox on my wife's bike stopped working) in the same time span.
I will ride lefty till it dies and i don't care if it does. it is stiffer than my previous forks but i may be wrong it is all subjective!!!. i really would like to try Jekyll or trigger but cos of the pull shock future issues i may not buy it-hence i may agree with you on that one.
  • + 2
 My brother has been on a lefty for as long as I can remember, he's honestly got nothing but great things to say about them. Haters gonna hate.
  • + 8
 @patrick-marsh: Cannondale is the wrong one to pick on in that case.... sure they have proprietary standards, but they've stuck by them for years and years. You know what you're getting into when you get a lefty bike.... but you also know that Cdale will basically never stop supporting your parts. They're a solid company making great bikes and thinking for themselves. Being as proprietary as they are means they don't always need to jump on trends.

Only ridden a lefty once but it was awesome, and I've actually always heard they're very reliable. Using the roller bearings means it doesn't develop stiction nearly as fast as my RS, which needs lowers cleaned 1-2x per season. Servicing seems like more of a pain, but if you only have to do it 1/3 as often, who cares?
  • - 1
 There's lot's of companies thinking outside the box, just look at all those press fit bb designs for example.
  • + 3
 @bkm303: Yes, Cannondale is a great company with solid products. However, if you do you own maintenance, I'd steer you in another direction. My wife rides a 2013 Scalpel 3 (no lefty), which is a pretty great bike, I must admit. However, consider that on that bike the headset, steerer tube, front derailleur mount, stem, and brake caliper mounts are proprietary, and as soon as you want to upgrade or change anything, you have to fork out some serious coin.

I agree with you on the idea that Cannondale is thinking for themselves, headed in their own direction, and thinking out of the box. Resultingly, they're making solid, innovative products. You just can't tout innovation and creativity as being the greatest things ever without also mentioning that they create products which are more expensive and less available.
  • + 3
 @patrick-marsh: Sorry to disagree with you here. The inside the box thinking has brought us all these new axle standards that differ by only few milimeters a time; recycling the same marketing arguments again and again; not really innovative and nowhere near 'outside the box' if you ask me. What did Cannondale do with the axle; it stays with 142 but does asymmetrci dish which makes tons more sense from a spoke angle standpoint - that is outside the box thinking.
  • + 1
 @g-42:

trust me, im on 3 dyad pullshocks for the last 3 years of hard alpine riding - not a single issue!
I blew the ohlins on my enduro evo after one season...

did the full service on the dyad myslef (okay, not so super easy as a fox dhx, but still - no big drama), but i can not nitro fill the ohlins at home. so off it goes to sweden for an oil change.

I would not worry about the pullshock. to be honest, i would miss the switch technology if it goes away. (and it will, since Jerome already tested the new jekyll with a push shock.)
  • - 1
 none of their bikes at least on this page do anyhting for me, the super angular shaped frames honestly look a little out dated, Take away the carbon and glitzy paint job and they would pretty much look like bikes from 10 years previuse. I hate to hate but on this page theirs little to appreciate.
  • + 1
 How much do people like the offset drivetrain idea? I would think shorter chainstays make it worth it, but I don't even know the cons.
  • + 1
 Heel strikes
  • + 1
 Is it just me or they have no DH rig? Seems they have nothing bigger than the Jekyll nowadays.
  • + 1
 It's been like that for quite a while really. They introduced the Perp in 2007 or so and quit doing long travel a few years later.
  • + 2
 @vinay:

last big bike was the claymore. (aaron chase rode one) 180-110mm of superplush travel Smile
  • + 1
 @radiomir: Thank you, I didn't even know that model ! :O
  • + 2
 You called a left a bad habit? I take offence
  • + 2
 How's the tire clearance with that Lefty?
  • + 1
 To quote Donald Trump, "its huge!" No you can usually fit some pretty big meats with the Lefty.
  • + 1
 Whats the paint scheme called on the Habit carbon SE called?

'Midnight/life crisis?'
  • - 1
 I havent seen a main pivot bearing so small since I last worked on a Carerra (cheap Halfords brand) The equivalent of a pimped out Walmart bike for those of you across the pond.
  • + 1
 Waiting for the Trek camp release and info on the redesigned fuel 29 and new slash 29!
  • - 1
 Is it just me or is Cannondale shying away from making super complicated mountain bikes now? These all look so basic compared to the super-tech, shape-shifting bikes they usually release.
  • + 1
 The shock mount on the scalpel looks closely similar to the commencal meta. Wonder if Jekyll will still be around?
  • + 1
 i thought in 2017 model the fork will be in the right.
  • + 1
 Does anyone know why they switched from the Lefty 2.0 alloy to the Pike?
  • + 2
 Nice Stumpjumper!
  • + 1
 buy a second hand lefty and bolt it on the right, problem solved
  • + 2
 That Habit SE...!
  • + 1
 purple bandit looks like a paint job straight from TLD
  • + 1
 for those that wonder about DH bikes from them.....
  • - 1
 Got rid of the lefty, now if only they would get rid of that single pivot suspension with flexing seat stay.
  • - 2
 There's something SPECIALLY EPIC about the Habit that I can't put my finger on. Same with the Scalpel. It just has me STUMPed.
  • + 1
 That's ironic, being as Specialized literally got started in the business ripping off people's designs. And how do you ride a Specialized, with the loose rear end and all?
  • + 0
 Scott 1 Cannondale 0
  • + 0
 Pretty much! Although the Carbon Habit with purple paint is very hot. And they should offer the Scalpel Men's in a 27.5. I know you could buy the Womens edition, but still.
  • - 4
flag robot870 (Jun 25, 2016 at 13:24) (Below Threshold)
 @hjb1000: I agree! 27.5 on the Scalpel would be a better bike. But, C-Dale (IMO) has gone downhill as a late. The whole plus size thing just makes me sick, don't see the fun in making things easier!!!
  • + 3
 @robot870: so are you riding a unicycle?
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