Cannondale Jekyll 2 - Review

Aug 7, 2017
by Mike Kazimer  



The Cannondale Jekyll has undergone a number of revisions over the course of its existence, but the latest update is the most significant yet. The bike is still rolling on 27.5” wheels, and retains the ability to switch between two different travel modes (either 165 or 130mm), but the proprietary Fox Dyad pull shock found on the previous models is gone, replaced by a Fox Float X Gemini, the result of another Cannondale / Fox collaboration. The one-sided Lefty fork has also disappeared, at least in its longer travel configuration, and all of the Jekyll models are equipped with more traditional looking suspension.
Cannondale Jekyll 2 Details

• Intended use: all-mountain / enduro
• Rear wheel travel: 165mm
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Carbon front triangle, alloy swingarm
• 65° head angle
• 420mm chainstays
• Boost spacing front and rear
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 30.2 pounds (size L)
• Price: $6,000 USD
www.cannondale.com

The Jekyll's geometry has also been altered, and if you've been following the recent geometry trends you shouldn't have any trouble guessing most of the changes. That's right, the Jekyll is now longer, lower, and slacker than before. Cannondale slackened the head and from 67° down to 65°, and also shaved 20mm off the chainstays, shortening them to 420mm. All of these revisions were designed to make the Jekyll more capable than ever, an attempt to create, in Cannondale's words, “the best enduro bike on the planet.” Did they succeed? I spent three months aboard the yellow and green machine to find out.

The Jekyll 2 tested here comes in at $6,000 USD, with a carbon front triangle, an alloy swingarm, and a build kit that includes SRAM's X01 Eagle 12-speed drivetrain, a 170mm Fox Float 36 Performance Elite, and WTB i29 rims shod with a 2.5" Maxxis Minion DHF up front and a 2.4" Minion DHR II in the back. There are three other models in the lineup, beginning with the full alloy Jekyll 4 that retails for $3,199, all the way up to the top-of-the line full carbon Jekyll 1 for $7,750 USD.



Cannondale Jekyll 2
The travel adjust feature does create an extra piece of housing, but it's all cleanly routed through the front triangle.
Cannondale Jekyll 2
Room for one standard-sized water bottle? Check.


Frame Details

The Jekyll 2's front triangle is constructed from BallisTec carbon, which Cannondale says uses fibers similar to those used for military ballistic armor, combined with resins that are typically used for carbon baseball bats. In other words, it's designed to be stiff, strong, and able to withstand the hard riding the Jekyll is intended for. The swingarm is aluminum, which helps reduce the overall cost of the bike. Looking for all-carbon everywhere? The Jekyll 1 has a full carbon frame, plus carbon wheels, but it'll cost you $1,750 more than the Jekyll 2.

The derailleur, brake, and dropper housing are routed inside the front triangle, with the brake and derailleur housing running externally under the bottom bracket. Yes, it would have been nice to see that housing run above the PressFit30 BB, but for what it's worth, I've spent countless hours on bikes with similar routing without any issues. That's not to say that pinching a cable is impossible, it's just that it's very unlikely.


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The Jekyll's rear triangle is offset by 3mm towards the drive side.
Cannondale Jekyll 2
A carbon frame protector is in place to help deflect rocks and other flying objects.


Even though the Jekyll has Boost spacing, Cannondale decided to offset the rear triangle by 3mm towards the drive side. Called Asymmetric Integration (Ai), the offset rear end was first seen on the Scalpel-Si and F-Si cross-country race bikes, and is designed to increase wheel stiffness, along with allowing the bike to have short chainstays with plenty of tire clearance.

How does an offset rear end increase wheel stiffness? It's the same concept as a rim with asymmetric spoke holes – by shifting everything over, it's possible to have the same spoke tension on the drive and non-drive sides of a wheel. What does that mean if you need to swap out the rear wheel? It means that you'll need to budget in some time to re-dish the replacement, otherwise the tire will sit too close to the drive side chainstay and swing arm. Cannondale may have their reasons for the asymmetric rear end, but I would have liked to see a 'regular' swingarm - who wants to re-dish a wheel when you need to install a spare?




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Suspension

Compared to the previous version, the new Jekyll's rear suspension layout looks like it was turned inside out. It's still a link-driven single pivot, but rather than sitting just above the bottom bracket, the shock is now situated between a boomerang-shaped carbon rocker and the upper portion of the downtube. Along with making it possible to run any metric shock on the market, the new orientation leaves just enough room underneath the rocker to squeeze in a regular sized water bottle.

The Jekyll's Fox Float X Gemini can be switched between either 165 or 130mm of travel via the handlebar mounted remote. When the remote is depressed, the shock's volume is reduced, which makes it impossible to compress it more than 130mm, a design that's similar to what we've seen Scott use on the Genius. The bike's geometry remains the same, but the decreased travel alters the bike's personality, making it better suited for climbing or more rolling terrain.



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Cannondale Jekyll 2
The handlebar mounted remote is used to select between either 165 or 130mm of rear travel.


Jekyll geo

Geometry

The previous version of the Jekyll was on the steeper side of the enduro-geometry spectrum, but that's no longer the case, and with its 65° head angle and 470mm reach (for a size large) it won't have any trouble fitting in with the cool kids. 470mm is on the longer side of things (at least for now – more and more large bikes are being released with similar numbers), but the Jekyll's 75° seat angle and short stem should help prevent the cockpit from feeling overly stretched out when climbing. The Jekyll's reach is fairly long, but the chainstays are downright stubby, measuring in at 420mm, an impressively short figure for a bike with 165mm of travel.



Specifications
Specifications
Price $5999.99
Travel 165mm
Rear Shock Fox Float X Performance Elite EVOL w/ Gemini remote-actuated dual mode air spring system,
Fork Fox Float 36 Performance Elite, FIT 4 damper, 170mm
Cassette SRAM XG-1295, 10-50T
Crankarms Truvativ Descendant Carbon Eagle, 30t
Bottom Bracket Cannondale Alloy PressFit30
Rear Derailleur SRAM XO1 Eagle, 12-Speed
Chain SRAM PC-XO1 Eagle
Shifter Pods SRAM XO1 Eagle Trigger
Handlebar Cannondale C1 Carbon Riser 780mm
Grips Cannondale Locking Grips
Brakes SRAM Guide RS
Hubs SRAM 900 Boost
Rim WTB Frequency Team i29
Tires Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5", Minion DHR II 2.4"
Seat Fabric Scoop shallow
Seatpost RaceFace Turbine 150mm dropper






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Climbing

With two travel options and three compression settings on the rear shock, there are plenty of ways to make the Jekyll feel exactly how you want. Like it as firm as possible? Flip the Float X's blue lever all the way clockwise and push the travel adjust lever down and you'll have rear suspension that barely moves, a setting that's best suited for spinning out the miles on the road to a trailhead. I played with all the different options (a handy way to pass the time on those never-ending climbs), and found that I preferred the shock set to 130mm of travel and in the middle compression setting. This still allowed for enough rear end motion to keep the wheel gripping, but it also minimized any unwanted movement during out of the saddle pedaling.

For a bike that's billed first and foremost as an enduro race machine, the Jekyll surprised me on multiple occasions with its excellent climbing abilities. The weight is reasonable, but it's the comfortable climbing position that makes the Jekyll an easy bike to get along with.

One ride in particular was full of tight, gravelly, uphill switchbacks, the sort that are hard to get around without losing traction or putting a foot down. With the Jekyll, as long as I could get the front wheel to begin making the turn, the rest of the bike would quickly follow suit. The short back end made it easy to pivot on the rear wheel, and awkward switchbacks and tighter, technical climbs were dispatched with minimal fuss.
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Of course, this is still a long and slack bike, but I'd say it's one of the better climbers in this category, which includes bikes like the Specialized Enduro, Santa Cruz Nomad or YT Capra. Even towards the tail end of a big ride that included 10,000 vertical feet of climbing I found myself making it up sections of a tricky ascent that I have a less-than-perfect batting average on, a testament to the Jekyll's ability to keep on cruising upwards even when my brain was partially melted from miles and miles of pedaling.


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Descending

Cannondale calls the Jekyll's two travel options “Hustle” and “Flow,” but I think “Seek” and “Destroy” has a better ring to it. After all, with 165mm out back and a 170mm Fox 36 up front, the Jekyll is built for more than just 'flowing' down the trail. Forget all of the acronyms and technobabble surrounding the Jekyll – this is a bike that likes to goof off, to drift around tight corners, manual at any chance, and generally cause a ruckus out on the trails.

There's plenty of smooth, plush travel to monster truck through the roots and rocks when necessary, with just enough ramp up in the Float X to avoid any harsh bottoming out. The rear suspension has a fairly linear feel to it, but I was content with keeping the bike in its stock configuration, although it is possible to add spacers to increase the amount of end stroke ramp up. I ran the shock with 30% sag, and didn't find any reason to deviate from that number.

Even with all of that travel, the Jekyll is still very manageable, and it's easy to see how it would serve well as a race bike – there's a quickness to its handling that makes it easy to keep up the pace even through slower speed or less steep sections of trail. That trait sets it apart from a bike like the Santa Cruz Nomad 4; while the Nomad needs a steady diet of steep, rough trails to remain happy, the Jekyll is more of an all-rounder - I'd happily take it on longer backcountry epics, or to a multi-day race like the Trans-Provence. There's a dramatic difference in how the two bikes feel on the trail - the Nomad hugs the ground, and prefers to plow straight down the fall line, while the Jekyll sits up higher, and feels more like a beefed up trail bike rather than a mini-DH rig.

There are as many opinions about the ideal chainstay length as there are marshmallows in a box of Lucky Charms, but it's important to remember that they're only one part of the geometry equation. In this case, they serve the Jekyll well, and even with the longer front-center I didn't have any trouble feeling balanced on the bike in the long-travel setting. There's plenty of room up front to provide stability in the steeps, while those short chainstays allowed the rear wheel to whip through the corners with a satisfying amount of speed.

In the shorter travel setting, which I typically used on smoother, jump-filled trails, I did notice that I needed to be more conscious of my body position in order to remain balanced between the 170mm fork and 130mm shock. That's a pretty big travel difference, and it gives the bike an entirely different feel – there's more of a platform to push into when it comes time to pop off the lip of a jump, but there's also not as big of a cushion when it comes time to touch back down to earth. I actually didn't end up using the shorter travel setting for descending as much as I'd expected – even on trails that weren't that rough, I still preferred the more balanced feel offered by the 'Flow' mode.


Cannondale Jekyll 2
SRAM's Guide RS brakes worked well, but it would have been nice to see the higher-end RSC version.
Cannondale Jekyll 2
The Fabric Scoop was comfortable and creak free for the entire test period.


Component Check

• Travel Adjust: Having the ability to switch between two different travel modes on-the-fly is novel, but the execution on Jekyll still isn't entirely perfect. I experimented with various positions for the dropper post lever and travel-selector, but their shapes just don't allow them to integrate seamlessly. I still had to lift my hand slightly off the bar in order to reach the adjuster with my thumb, and it never really became second nature.

I can see why Jerome Clementz uses a twist-shifter to switch travel settings on his race bike – that seems like it would be much easier to use, and would free up space for the dropper post remote. Or what about something like a toggle switch that took the place of the inner lockring for the grip? In any case, the system works, but there's room for improvement.

• SRAM Guide RS brakes: I'm pretty picky about my brake lever position and feel, which is one of the reasons I like the pad contact adjust feature found on the Guide RSC and Ultimate models, a feature that's missing on the Jekyll's RS brakes. I'm sure that was done to keep the price down, but I would have gladly given up the carbon cranks or carbon bar for an upgraded set of brakes.

• Fabric Scoop saddle: Seats are about as personal as it gets, but the Scoop's shape fit me well, and it didn't call any unwanted attention to itself, even on all-day rides.

• WTB Frequency rims: Alloy rims may not get the attention that their carbon siblings do, but the Frequency i29 held up for the duration of the test period with only one dent to speak of, caused by landing directly on a sneaky, pointy rock. That impact did pinch flat the tire and squish the rim's sidewall, but once I got home I was able to straighten everything out, and it was almost as good as new.

• RaceFace Turbine dropper: My track record with the Race Face Turbine dropper post is mixed, but this one worked flawlessly, without any change in its performance. There was no slipping, sticking, or sagging, the three most common ailments that can plague dropper posts.


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Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesSo, is the Cannondale Jekyll the 'best enduro bike on the planet?' Well, I don't know if I'd go quite that far, but I will say that it's a damn fine attempt, and this is certainly the best Jekyll yet. The geometry updates have turned it into a more potent race weapon than ever before, and even riders without any intention of rolling up to a starting line will find that it delivers a very enjoyable ride on just about any type of terrain.  Mike Kazimer









About the Reviewer
Stats: Age: 35 • Height: 5'11" • Inseam: 33" • Weight: 160lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Twenty-two years deep into a mountain biking addiction that began as a way to escape the suburban sprawl of Connecticut, Mike Kazimer is most at home deep the woods, carving his way down steep, technical trails. The decade he spent as a bike mechanic helped create a solid technical background to draw from when reviewing products, and his current location in the Pacific Northwest allows for easy access to the wettest, muddiest conditions imaginable.



214 Comments

  • + 75
 rear end is alloy to keep cost down... still $6000
please bitch...
  • + 8
 even worse.. not even kashima? only guide RS?
  • + 6
 I think the same when I see a 8000€ Intense whit alloy links to take the cost "down",or 5500 € SC nomad whit Yari forks and sit wheels&rubber,or SC nomad 3 whit shimano deore brakes for 6000€...haters everywhere!
Those "all carbon fiber guys" then see a rock garden and walks whit the bike to avoid cracking the bike or scratching his high end bike.
Then go to the Bikepark and see 20 teenagers ripping the course on 10 year old sit bikes,do you need carbon or big balls/cojones?
  • + 27
 Well, you know, that right side of the fork aint cheap
  • + 33
 Just so glad to see them get rid of the lefty. Man that thing was garbage
  • + 284
 just wait till they roll out the new Righty
  • + 82
 If I normally ride a lefty, and go on a ride with a righty, will it feel like a stranger is steering my bike?
  • + 141
 Why was the lefty garbage? It's got nothing but rave reviews from those who rode/ride it, it's stiff as hell, and it's easier to service the damper or do a basic on the wiper seal than a standard fork.

I mean I can understand if your last try on a lefty was like 10 years ago, but the relatively recent supermaxes and lefty 2.0's have been fantastic. Also the inversion keeps the wiper seals constantly lubricated in bath oil so small bump sensitivity is amazing.

Not a lefty fanboy or anything, always ran Fox on my own bikes, but I don't get the completely unwarranted hate for it. It's a clever design and it does its job well.
  • + 25
 @ScottStedman: I completely agree.

It always seems to be that the people who slate the lefty either rode one ten years ago, or never have..

In my experience, anyway.
  • - 1
 @ScottStedman: Because once they go wrong you're completely screwed. No one knows how to fix the damn things! Spare parts are a nightmare too.
  • + 14
 My brother has been on one for years and absolutely loves it, it has never let him down either. Haters gonna hate I guess.
  • + 33
 @snax001: Disagree. The shop I used to work at serviced Leftys all the time and we had bags of spare parts given to us by Cannondale for every model of lefty available, including tons of the 2-spring upgrade kits. And they were super easy to work on. Spare parts were readily available from the manufacturer. The only parts we weren't able to acquire were parts for old Headshok rebuilds, which at that point honestly, just buy a new gd fork, the Headshok is 20 year old technology
  • - 25
flag andnyleswillriot (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:25) (Below Threshold)
 You guys are funny. So easy to pinch a nerve on this site.
  • + 27
 @andnyleswillriot: discussion =/= pissing people off
  • + 12
 @ScottStedman: right? Opinions are like calls to war around here.
  • + 4
 @ScottStedman: From What I've seen in and around races, the xc oriented lefty forks are amazing, and the long travel enduro versions tend to blow up. I'm not an engineer, but I can see the idea of the lefty being brilliant for short travel light weight fo4ks, but have a hard time standing up to the abuse of endure or trail riding.
  • + 4
 @ScottStedman: Why was the lefty garbage? It might not be garbage but it does look awful on a bike, that's enough to put most people off.
  • - 9
flag Thustlewhumber (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:48) (Below Threshold)
 Jerome won't even run it.
  • + 4
 @ScottStedman:
The XC Lefty's are great. The longer travel version suffers from a distinct lack of torsional and lateral stiffness, and the wheel wanders a lot in rock gardens and such.. I know Cannondale loves to claim it's stiffer, but basic physics dictates otherwise: the lack of a complete box section greatly reduces the cross sectional moment of intertia, which means in the lateral and torsional directions the lefty does not match conventional forks in stiffness. Fore-aft it may be better thanks to it's dual crown attachment.
  • + 2
 @ScottStedman: I think it gets so much hate because it's so goofy looking. It may be stiff but I just can't look at a lefty without thinking that it will break in half the first time you hit a jump or drop.
  • + 12
 @tsheep: Having seen Crabapple hits done on a long travel lefty I'd say the forks are more than stiff enough.

according to "basic physics" a square tube in torsion supported by needle bearings could very well be stiffer than two tubes under bending.
  • + 4
 Did you actually own a Lefty and put in a lot of time on it or are you just judging it by it's odd looks?
  • + 2
 @ScottStedman: Yup, definitely a fan of everything except compatibility and price. Most I have spoken to that don't like have no real experience riding or servicing them.
Whatever.
  • + 3
 @Nobble: The crabapple hits are not a good feature to dictate the "stiffness" of a fork. I mean, if you really wanted to, see how much travel you actually blow through when you hit them. If you hit them clean, don't come up short, you're really not twisting the fork at all and not using a ton of travel.
Railing a berm would be a much better stiffness test
  • + 4
 I own an 8-9 y.o rize inherited rize and the lefty never gave me a headache. Stiff, if you try to twist the wheel, it's the rim who lets go first, plush and reliable. The same could not be said for the fox shock, it puked (frothed to be exact) it's oil out once… Why do you said that?
  • + 3
 @ScottStedman: I rode and/or demoed every version of the Lefty over the years. They weren't garbage, but they were vastly outpaced by everything else available. This is especially true of any of them beyond the XC travel range. That said, the people I know that liked Leftys were all XC riders.
  • + 4
 Dont talk shit dude, the 160 lefty is up there with the best forks, theres nothing can touch it for plushness. Ive used loads of different forks and this is the closest feeling 160 fork to a downhill fork ive ever experienced. It is stiffer than any other fork ive ever used, has zero stiction and as buttery smooth as you like. It is just plagued with reliability issues. Which is a shame.
  • + 2
 @snax001: Thats totally incorrect. They are very easy to fix and break down and you can get spare parts from loads of places in the UK and Europe. And TFTuned also service the lefty, all be it quite expensive.
  • + 3
 @LoganKM1982: Wins the interwebz for today, all others can go home.
  • + 0
 @Thustlewhumber: Neither will Mark Weir!
  • + 8
 From my experience riding the 160 supermax, the chasis was brilliant. Closest to 0 breakaway I've ever felt, and it was the correct stiffness fore-aft and torsional (not too stuff not too floppy). However, the damping simply wasn't up to par when ridden back to back against my simple Pike RC. The low speed rebound was too slow, and the high speed too fast, meaning it would pack up on multiple hits (like braking bumps) when set slow enough to not bounce you around when trying to hold a line. There is only one external rebound adjustment, and with its Trek-like thru-shaft design its hard to add multiple external adjusters. The compression was a similar story- too much compression on high speed impacts, but then it would dive too much into its travel when braking or on medium sized drops ( I didn't take it off anything super big).

There is a company that does aftermarket shims for the lefty, and maybe with a custom shim for your weight thats done better the lefty can shine. However, the main reason why the lefty was dropped on longer travel rigs is because it didn't sell well and probably had poor profit margins.
  • - 6
flag NickDHash (Aug 7, 2017 at 13:09) (Below Threshold)
 @LoganKM1982: "no, most people say you can't even tell the other side isn't there!"
Oh brother.
At least this crack'nfail looks like a big boy bike.
  • + 7
 I've heard every opinion under the sun about lefties, same as about most other forks, but i've never heard a regular user complain about one in the last 20 years. Fashion dictates thought.
  • - 3
 Yet they still can't stop with another goofy needless proprietary shock in back. Cannondale, for when you are easily fooled by gimmicks.
  • + 2
 @gdnorm: but you have to admit there's a sizeable niche market for that kind of product in all sectors. Otherwise Spesh would be on their own as the microsoft of the bike world, with no Apple to combat.
  • - 5
flag gdnorm (Aug 7, 2017 at 16:14) (Below Threshold)
 @BenPea: If you mean there are people who pathologically need attention on the trail, then yes Cannondale made the most of it for a very long time.
  • + 2
 The lefty could very well be the best performing fork but aesthetically it looked off. The symmetry wasn't there, and that's enough for many people.
  • + 1
 @zer0c00l44: two different leftys (one on a scalpel, one on a habit se), both forks under 6 months old, two marathon races in consecutive years...two collapsed leftys. In each case, no bike shop able to fix in Breckenridge or near squamish. Anecdotal, but I'm not touching them again. You cant even swap them out easily.
  • + 1
 @ScottStedman:
It better be easy to service given how much time you'll spend replacing those seals...and jokes aside, it's not any easier to do a basic oil change/wiper or seal service than a modern fork from fox or rockshox.

Not to mention the poorly controlled compression damping (or outright lack thereof on some models) or the hydraulic lockouts that are horribly unreliable (and work much worse than competitors forks, either feeling like a complete lockout like it slightly stiffens up the fork and then adds a ton of rebound damping) or the needle bearings that get eventually get fouled up with muck and are a pain to clean.

It isn't even good marketing for the average consumer. Between fatbikes and leftys, more people look at the fatbikes. Neither sell well. Between folding bikes and leftys, it's the same deal, but then at least some of those sell...if cannondale could use the fact that they're making suspension in-house to save the end user money for similar performance, then it'd be sweet. But that's just not the way it works with cannondale
  • + 21
 Two sad things about this bike :
1. Cannondale dumped their trademark green
2. Offset rear wheel, even though it is a real good idea to stiffen wheels; unlike boost

On a personal note, I'm not a huge fan of these travel adjust (like Scott Geniuses) or remote lockouts. Keep it simple : Transition Patrol is a fine example of this.
I also felt that the review was interchangeable with any enduro bike review of the last 2 year : " for a 165mm it was really good on the climbs"; "on the descents it was a beast". Time to become more demanding and specific
  • + 9
 The wheel offset is only 3mm. You can re-dish any built wheel without any issues.
  • - 2
 @Gruzovik: I think is about 6mm to the right not 3mm cos the chainring is 5mm offset too
You need to buy new spokes of equal length like if you are building a front wheel.
The rear wheel feeling is very solid,if you loose spoke tension or broke 2-3 spokes (I loose 6 spokes in 1 ride,impossible to feel on the bike,I see it at home) the wheel is still going reasonable straight,any chatter or weird things.
  • + 4
 @homerjm: I will rephrase. The hub is offset 6mm but that makes for only 3mm difference on the dish of the wheel. You can re-dish any wheel that way, I've personally done it. It doesn't create a symmetrical wheel with equal length spokes and equal tension but it gets you closer than a conventional wheel.
  • + 4
 @Gruzovik: I´m not a wheel builder by any way. Ok now I dig it! Is good to know cos I need soon a new wheel set and I was a bit confused about that. Thanks.
  • + 2
 I own a 2018 Jekyll, the first thing I did was rip off the stock gemeni shock. Also another issue regarding it is cannondale created the gemeni system for their fox shocks, mine had a horrible knock on the mid stroke, fox refuse to touch or service gemeni shocks as it's canondales design, and cannondale won't touch it because fox are supposed to do all servicing, so mine is currently sat in a box doing nothing. Bit of a shitshow really. Hugely overcomplicated for very little performance gain
  • + 2
 at a push, it isn't the end of the world if you need to borrow a wheel. Went to an xc race and forgot my rear wheel (...I know...) and had to borrow someone else.

My bike is the 650b f-si and I ended up slinging in a 29er rear haha. it worked, the paints gone from about 3mm of the chain stay but it also meant I hadn't wasted a 2 hour drive.
  • + 1
 @cliffdog: that is a little bit weird cos all manual are in Fox web and is not so difficult to service...
I was thinking something was wrong but then I realize that the internal cable routing was a little bit loose and make a knock noise inside the frame . Check if your cables are tight at bb area,in my case the brake cable was loose and make that weird noise like little rock impact or shock cracking,it was touching inside the frame at shock high.
Other good thing,check if your bike has any loctite in the bolts,cos in the manual,almost all bolts must be on loctite. I almost loose the first day 1 bolt,from the factory it seems to me that they forgot to apply loctite to my entire bike.
  • + 0
 @cliffdog: Man I'm glad this bike sux. With ballistic grade carbon fibre, I can't bitch about the carbon. With 420mm chainstays I can't bitch about it not being 26inch. Lucky the proprietary shock doesn't work and its a terrible colour.
  • + 2
 @choppertank3e: I didn't say its a bad bike. Once set up with aftermarket suspension it's a weapon. I own the Jekyll 3, the red one, and after pretty much changing everything on it it's a close to perfect bike.

Another few issues I discovered in the first few months included the wrong size headset bearing, wrong brake mount on the front and a chain that had 4 too many links in it. I guess all new bikes have teething problems but I was very surprised whilst unboxing it. Luckily I work in a bike shop so none of those problems really mattered, is be pissed if I'd paid full wack for it though.
  • + 0
 @cliffdog: "Once I changed everything on the bike, it's was pretty good", seems like the definition of a bad bike
  • + 1
 @cliffdog: I own the same bike Jekyll 3 and your words are like you are talking about other bike...This bike stock is good,nothing weird or fancy but it works out of the box fine,setup sag and hit the bike park first day any problem,any drama. Ok the fork is simple,the shock too but the work great . Maybe if you dream whit a custom bike you can buy something to dial in the fork like MRP Ramp contol,Avalanche open bath,coil kit...and buy a custom shock,better wheels and tires. This bike from stock is fine, maybe the worst thing is the cheaper dropper post,it works great but is only 125mm long. Even stock cheapest Maxxis WT tires are Ok. XT cassette is ugly as hell but it works fine, Si cranks are very light and solid,brakes I never told about it cos is a personal choice,but slx works really well. what o you do whit the bike?
  • + 2
 @homerjm: for what I wanted I felt like some bits needed changing. New bikes do usually have teething problems, it's perfectly normal. I'm in NZ and we had a number of issues with cannondale arriving neither wrong parts.

All specs on the 3 are fine, apart from rear shock. I was just making the most of cheap upgrades whilst working in a shop.
  • + 18
 how is 6000 usd for the perfromace elite fork allowed? that's ridiculous. give me the factory for that price
  • + 29
 Performance forks just have black stanchions but the same FIT4 cartridge. win win in my opinion. Kashima coating being more slippery than black type 3 anodizing is BS in my opinion (or at least irrelevant in the field), most people just like the bling factor (which I can't blame). But performance from the performance forks is the same really.
  • + 38
 @SwintOrSlude: That may be so, but for $6000 USD the bling better be there.
  • - 4
flag jbob27 (Aug 7, 2017 at 10:28) (Below Threshold)
 @SwintOrSlude: I believe that to be incorrect. I think the adjustment is different is it not?
  • + 10
 @jbob27, @SwintOrSlude is correct - the Fox Performance Elite fork is the same as the Factory version, but with a different stanchion coating. You might be thinking of the Performance fork, which uses the GRIP damper. This image shows the different options: www.pinkbike.com/photo/13370548
  • + 6
 @mikekazimer: stand corrected. thanx!
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: i was interested enough to check , UK prices the Jekyll 2 is £5500 and the 1 is £6000,
that's only $650 more
  • + 3
 I hate that bling bling stupid color,is like a Renthal fatbar, maybe it´s awesome but those colors are impossible to match whit the frame or parts color. Ali G crew stuff IMO.
  • - 4
flag LoganKM1982 (Aug 7, 2017 at 12:04) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: ah ha. That grip damper isn't any good from what I've heard. Never had the chance to ride one though
  • + 1
 For about 4.6k I built a new us made alu custom frame (2.3k) with 9p8 dropper, flow/hope 29er wheels, pike, Sixc bars/stem, next cranks, xtr shifter, xt derailer, 110 headset, saints brakes, cc inline shock... all new. Size xl, weight 29 pounds.
  • - 2
 @SwintOrSlude: there is a noticeable difference between the Kashima and the Black ano stantions as far as how slippery they are, not a ton but it's there. People definitely go with the Kashima because it is way more "hey look at me" bling factor though haha.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: I have the Jekyll 3, which comes with the Fox performance fork, not performance elite, but it has the fit4 damper. What's the difference between that and the performance elite then.
  • + 9
 It sounds ridiculous, but go look at every other 6k carbon enduro bike on the market, and with the exception of maybe YT and Canyon, they all come with performance elite or even just performance (looking at you, Yeti) 36's. For example, Santa Cruz requires you to spend near 8k usd to get that kashima bling.
  • + 2
 @mtbracer4098: or they go with it cuz they can afford it and its better. either way tho
  • + 1
 @labiker9: The Fox 36 is only sold in the Factory and Performance Elite versions, the fork on the Jekyll 3 must be some kind of OEM only fork which only has a lockout lever, not like the other versions which have a CTD lever and an openmode adjust dial.
  • + 10
 I think that we need a looping montage of all the suspension squish videos in existence so far...and keep it growing as time moves forward. I could watch that for hours.
  • + 11
 Great to see Cannondale adapting and listening to customers. Love the idea of adjustable travel. Even on XC/Trail bikes.
  • + 8
 I got this bike and it is awesome, best bike ever own. Cannondale put a lot of love&time in this bike. My word to describe it is "easy". Easy bike to go fast,smooth and refined. I´m very happy whit it.
  • + 3
 Couldn't agree more. I also have the 2018 Jekyll 2, and it handles the steep chunder at Kicking Horse better than my old downhill bike, but can then turn around and pedal back up
  • + 9
 Mike, as subjective as it is, what would you consider to be the "best enduro bike in the planet"? Please be as Enduro-specific as possible.
  • + 7
 It has to be the specialized enduro, right? It's in the name!

But really, who cares. They all work.
  • + 5
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: I had that thought, but didn't want to go full enduro. Never go full enduro.

Enduro on Enduro on Enduro.
  • + 1
 They have a test for this it's called racing. Currently the best is a carbon 29 mega (go Sam). My bike never got better than fourth seven years ago Frown
  • + 4
 I would have started the article out like this.... For everyone who loved the Jekyll before and Cannondale for that matter because owning one made you special and unique like the bike you ride....this is NOT the bike for you. However, if you like mainstream parts and the way most major manufacturers are heading these days here is a new choice that fits in among the dozens of competitors but doesn't stand out to much or stray from the norm. Enjoy!
  • + 17
 Catchy
  • + 1
 I certainly wouldn't label a bike filled with proprietary parts "mainstream and the way most manufacturers are heading." Still pretty unique with the travel adjust, and for that reason I would never buy one.
  • + 3
 I have a trigger with the DYAD shock, and its been amazing. I know they have a shaky past for people, but I really enjoy it. Plus I got the bike brand new for like... 1700$, so for the price I had to do it.
  • + 3
 @tgent: How is it filled with proprietary parts? The rear shock is a standard metric shock that can be replaced with anything on the market. The rear wheel is a standard Boost wheel.
  • + 2
 @Gruzovik: You are correct in that you can put on a std metric shock, but you'll lose the ability to switch between long and short travel, a large reason I assume most people are buying the bike. The rear wheel is standard, but as Mike said "you'll need to redish the rear wheel." Both can be overcome, but I'd rather not.
  • + 3
 Dear Pinkbike. I understand the US market is bigger than Canada, but being somewhat still Canadian based and with a huge Canadian following, would it be that hard to post Canadian MSRP's alongside the US ones?
  • + 28
 Just add a zero.
  • + 1
 Use your Google.
  • + 2
 @johnnygolucky: Or they can just put the pricing in. Some company's websites lack MSRP in Canadian as well, or on some bikes they haven't been published yet on their sites.
  • + 12
 Personally I like to know what things cost in Guatemalan Quetzals, so c'mon, sort it out Pinkbike.
  • + 2
 @johnnygolucky: except a good chunk of the time it isn't a simple conversion. For example a Yeti sb5.5 Carbon eagle retails for $5699USD which converts to over $7100CDN, yet at my LBS it retails for $6850CDN.

The manufacturer sets the Canadian MSRP. Sometimes it's to our advantage, as is the case with Yeti, sometimes it isn't (SC comes to mind).
  • + 2
 Mike I think you probably could run one one the Trans Provence and be ok....well Marco Osbourne was anyway.
www.wideopenmountainbike.com/2017/06/photo-story-mavic-trans-provence-days-4-6

Came across as a nice bloke too.
  • + 1
 I find it funny that most people hate on the lefty's. Honestly, the only thing to hate about on the last model was the dyad. Limited adjustability, unreliable, and you couldn't change shocks because the tech was outdated. Cannondale has and still makes solid bikes. This update was needed and it hits all expectations in the bike of that category. Super fun bike; if you ever get the chance to take one out its a must. And It looks super clean!
  • + 1
 So I demoed this exact configuration, and I didn't like it. I spend 99% of my time on a long travel 29er with an angleset putting the HTA at 65, just like this bike. However, I felt like the new Jekyll would wander a ton more on climbs. Oh well, I thought, this is made for mini-dh! Unfortunately, i found the float X to feel worse than even the Monarch Plus. When aired up to support me, a 2010 pound rider, it was lifeless. Way too stiff off the top, yet still sagged to far into its travel. In both the 130mm and 170mm modes, it felt like a regular float from a 5 inch trail bike from 5 years ago.

The short chainstays and high BB made steep, fast, and loose squirrely, sketchy, and terrifying. It did great on the tight and twisty medium stuff, and even in the long tavel mode you can pump and flow. Oddly, I actually liked the old Jekyll better, even with its ancient 67 degree HTA.
  • + 22
 I guess the bike/shock just wasn't designed for your weight, I'm not sure anything could support that weight on two wheels.
  • + 20
 2010 pounds, you might be the problem bro...
  • + 8
 @DrStairs: 2010 pounds is a lot to ask any bike to handle.
  • + 6
 "a 2010 pound rider"

Damn man! You're one big mofo!
  • + 2
 No one ever says the Jekyll is made for mini-DH. It's an enduro bike. Made for enduroing. All the enduros.
  • + 2
 @DrStairs: Ha, I meant 210. I should proofread!
  • + 1
 I got this bike for a while now,not that spec, mine is jekyll 3 and your way to describe the bike is like you need a trail bike. This is not a trail bike, it is happy most of the time,yes, but it is not a perfect bike to pedal. This bike feels very natural and easy to ride for me and going DH is the thing here.
I weight 63 kg/180cm on L size frame and the stock settings feels good to me. What kind of rear tire pressure are you ridding?cos whit the new WT tires 2 bar is too much and feels hard to me,in my last bike I was ridding at 2/2,5 bar and now near 1,6.
This bike is a monster over DH stuff,very noticeable that difference whit 2-3 year old bikes like Giant ,SC Nomad,Transition patrol...
  • + 2
 @homerjm: It was a demo, so the tires were over-inflated to prevent pinch flats since multiple people were riding it that day. The suspension could also have been set up better over the course of a few rides, and the rear for me would have benefitted from some volume spacers (I don't know how many were in there).

I still felt underwhelmed on the DH with this bike. It just didn't feel plush or stable at speed.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: What is the CS and BB height on your current bike?
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: Its a BMC trailfox 29 with a -1 degree angleset and a single offset bushing in the rear shock. The stock BB drop is 30, so the height was around 342ish mm. With the offset bushing its probably now closer to 335mm, if not a tad lower, esp. with the angleset. The stock chainstays are 435mm, so probably a bit longer with the offset bushing.

My BMC is wicked fast on the climbs, even with heavy crappy onza tires. It used to be good on tight switchbacks, both up and down, until I put the angleset on it.
  • + 3
 @mikekazimer - Mike does that mean you are coming around to new school geometry? Maybe I am confusing you with Mr Levy who seems a little more conservative geowise.

On paper the numbers look good with maybe the exception of the high BB.
  • + 3
 @hamncheez: Sounds like a decent set of numbers. I'm a fan of longer chainstays as I think they help balance things out.

What Onzas are you using? I've got some Onza Ibex which I really like. They're not quite as good as DHR2's but a decent trail tyre and not overly heavy.
  • + 6
 @hamncheez: PS it really annoys me when comments are downvoted because people don't share the same opinion.
  • + 3
 @fartymarty: Yes, I dont get it. All I said was I didn't like the bike after riding it.
  • + 3
 @fartymarty, yep, I think you've got me and Levy mixed up. I'm a fan of the direction bike geometry is going, especially with the steeper seat angles. There are limits, of course, but the Jekyll's numbers worked well for me.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: what has your experience on the float x with other bikes? I've ridden it on two bikes including this one, and I couldn't get either of them to feel good on the trail.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: I had a feeling that was the case (between you and Mr L). I think we are nearly at the point where it is getting down to personal preference. Do you have any idea if you could get the BB lower (offset bushes) on this one?
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: mine has a dbair
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: 210 pounds you are a big guy, I think it come stock whit 1 spacer on the shock&forks that maybe is far away from perfect for your weight. This bike feel very supple to me at the begging of the stroke even ridding it after being setting whit a weird shock pump that always read lower pressures than real.
I ride like 55 psi+/60 psi - on forks combined whit Mrp ramp control near to max progression and 145 psi at shock and it is near to perfect for my 140 pound full equip.
I think stock bikes in L size settings are for a 165-185 pound rider. As a light rider settings are key for me, I need a very well balanced bike for my ridding style and a little bit stiffer than other guys who weight more than me.
Riding a bike whit a soft fork and very hard shock ruins the geometry on pure DH,as an Mtb guide (I try to work whit bikes all days of my life) is a very common mistake,on a 170mm fork bike if this happens your ride is sketchy and far away from feel any confidence cos the bike dives like crazy,add slow rebound and you got a bike impossible to ride.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: sorry I meant have you tried a coil in the rear?
  • + 4
 @fartymarty: hey man whatever floats your boat, but I don't swing that way
  • + 2
 @fartymarty: "I think we are nearly at the point where it is getting down to personal preference." It took a while, but dammit if we've not got somewhere!
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: JKJK I haven't ( I almost bought a trailfox with a coil X2 though). I'm really liking my ccdbair non-inline, and I don't see a need to go coil at this point.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: I've not ridden a good air can but lotsa coils but can see the advantages of a good air can. Max fettleability has gotta be one benefit.
  • + 1
 @BenPea: I think there is a little to go but its not as far off as say 5 years ago. It does help when you have open minded reviewers.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: sorry just re read my comment about the coil in the rear.... it made me laugh...
  • + 1
 Haa! My Jekyll is insanely good on the steeper stuff, it's not like other bikes where it stays relatively planted, it's more active wanting to always leave the ground. It may not suit your riding style/ be similar to anything previously you have rode. After setting suspension up properly it's the best bike I've ridden to date
  • + 1
 No mention of the pathetically small (30t) chainring and the rear pivot that's set to match it? So the higher you go from there chainring-wise, the worse the bike will pedal. So in comes the travel adjuster. I much prefer a bike that actually pedals good at any travel than one that pedals bad at long travel, and a little better, but still bad, at short travel.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer great review, thanks! I am wondering about the "Gemini system" and the possibility i.e. to test the bike with a new shock in the future. Three questions for you:

- Would you say it would be a big loss for the Jekyll to upgrade it with a new shock (Rockshox, Öhlins...) without the "Gemini system" or would you consider it a good bike anyway?

- Do you think the behavior of the Jekyll will get even better by using a coil shock (as seen on Jerome Clementz's bike on some EWS races)? Reference: enduro-mtb.com/en/pro-bike-check-jerome-clementzs-cannondale-jekyll

- To make this bike as an even more all-rounder, would you consider to reduce the fork travel to 160 mm?

Thank you in advance for your reply!
  • + 2
 @whattis, I don't think there would be any problem upgrading the bike with a non-Gemini shock. As long as you had some sort of low speed compression adjust for the climbs there really wouldn't be a performance loss. The travel adjust is interesting, but definitely not required.

Coil shocks are a matter of personal preference, but I could see how that could work well with this bike, especially on really rough or loose tracks where traction is a priority.

You could reduce the travel, which would give it a slightly steeper HA, but it's a pretty playful bike as it is - I never felt like there was too much fork up front.
  • + 1
 I used to work for Trek and rode numerous Cannondales, and can honestly say I never tried an all mountain/enduro bike from them that I liked. Idk what it is but even when setup by their mechanics tailored to my every specificity it just felt like a sluggish snail-railer.
  • + 1
 GT or CANNONDALE and I knew how many haters will star to post negative stuff like price etc. but you can buy 40 off price just wait 1 year, what about innovation, that doesn't mater same design over and over again and what a great bike just write right name on it...whiners
  • + 1
 How would you compare this to the Santa Cruz Bronson? I know you mentioned the Nomad in the review, but this seems like it would be more like the snappy Bronson in climbs and descents.
  • + 1
 Side by side a SC bronson is like BMX bike,a Nomad 3 too, all in the same size L compared to this bike. Very different animal,I never see a SC nomad 4 but I think both bikes maybe look similar in size and intentions. I own new Jekyll 3 and ride every weekend whit SC,Giant,Intense owners and the only old bike near to this bike is the Giant Reing(new one is longer).
  • + 3
 I have no doubt that it is a great bike , anyone notice almost every bike reviewed is .
  • + 3
 @mikekazimer When comparing to the Nomad, are you using the Nomad 3 or Nomad 4 as a comparison?
  • + 3
 Good question - I should have clarified that point. I was referring to the Nomad 4.
  • + 2
 Love the suspension movement video. In the future could you please have the air pressure reduced from the fork as well to see how the whole system works together?
  • + 2
 Did anyone else see the Transition Sentinel link at the end of the 12 second suspension clip! It's protected but a good pic of the bike.
  • + 2
 I red somewhere that Lefty had no significant advantage over standard forks in 160mm range and the damper is not up to date yet...
  • + 1
 Proprietary shock setups may be fine and dandy, but what kind of support can one count on after it's pulled out and replaced with a newer one (i.e. Fox Dyad to Float X Gemini)?
  • + 9
 In the past I have hated on Cannondale hard on this, however on this one any metric shock can be popped in to replace it, just sans the travel adjustment. I talked to a few people racing this summer around BC/Alberta about the bike and they loved it. It's the first time a Cannondale has been on my radar
  • + 2
 @kiddlivid: That's good to know. Looking at this, new SC Nomad, and the Polygon Square One are currently on my list of choices for a possible upgrade next year.
  • - 5
flag YouHadMeAtDrugs (Aug 7, 2017 at 10:05) (Below Threshold)
 @Verbl-Kint: those are on opposite sides of the long-travel spectrum. Nomad is dh, polygon is shit.
  • + 0
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: Nomad = Enduro brah, V10 = DH
  • + 2
 @ka-brap: The new nomad is a v10. Hightower is enduro brah
  • + 2
 @Verbl-Kint: this bike has any proprietary thing,even headset is tappered now. Rear shock is more like new float dps evol,metric size. I got mine red acid color and it is the best bike I ever own or ride. Clean look,rides very easy,very natural,well balanced,I can see anything I don´t like about the bike,maybe is expensive compared to other bikes.
It is very comfortable and makes you feel confident quick. One thing anybody talks about is rear wheel, it is very tough and durable,really easy to true,days ago I loose 6 spokes,yes 6 spokes and I realize at home,the wheel is still true,awesome cos I broke wheels like no tomorrow,those are taking 4month of crazy riding any problem.
  • + 2
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: I ended up buying the Jekyll after being heartset on the square one, because some industry professionals forewarned me I would be happier.

I am happy with my descision
  • + 0
 @jewpowered: That makes me happy too!
  • + 2
 @jewpowered: Care to spill the beans? ;-)
  • + 4
 Every review should show the bikes suspension squat.
  • + 3
 Hey look, a water bottle you can't reach... CannonHell
  • + 3
 The Jekyll is much much older than 7 years Smile
  • + 2
 Cannondale left me hanging out to dry on two broken carbon jekyll's. Good luck with your ballistic fubar
  • - 1
 Guess I could never buy this bike because after I read the article, went downstairs and looked at the bottom of my 4 29ers BB and all four had scrapes on them. Now granted I have minimal skills but the rocks of Pisgah would eat those Cannondale cables up.
  • + 1
 Looks like a solid design that I'm sure many will love. I will never buy a bike with proprietary parts again, learned my lesson with a brain(less) stumpjumper.
  • + 1
 For me , this time thing fell from the ugly tree and hit every ugly branch and then some kids smashed it with the ugly stick.
  • + 2
 13.7" bottom bracket. A modern Enduro bike you might actually be able to pedal with 175 cranks!!
  • + 1
 You guys gonna have to educate me on this one...I clearly see TWO pivots between the BB and rear axle, so how is this a single pivot ? #Imconfused
  • + 2
 Well, I'm confused, because I only see the one, behind the chainring. Ghost pivot?
  • + 3
 It refers to the pivots on the chain stay. the one that actually controls the path of the travel. So the one single main pivot where the chain stay meets the frame.
  • + 4
 @tuumbaq It's called a single pivot due to how the suspension behaves (i.e. just like a standard single pivot). A more correct way to label this suspension type would be linkage-driven single pivot.
  • + 1
 @ka-brap: or swing arm with linkage driven shock.
  • + 3
 If you drew the path of the rear axle during compression, it will form a circle with the main pivot (next to the BB) as its center. >single pivot
On the other hand if you try this on a Giant, Mondraker or SC it will not be a circle since the pivot is virtual (ie not on a physical pivot) and moves during travel.
  • + 1
 The frame is not what I desire in the looks department. That being said a company like Cannondale actually building shit I would want to ride cant be all bad.
  • + 2
 Remember the bike whose left side was cut off? It's all right now!
  • + 3
 Slow clap
  • + 1
 what happened to that weird-looking lefty fork? They don't use them anymore?
  • + 1
 suppose somebody wanted to fit that shock to a different frame, would there be any way to buy the shock separately?
  • + 1
 Mike, you have one of the best jobs you could have, testing almost every new bike that comes out.
  • + 1
 I like this bike due to its bottle cage location/placement..very neat down there
  • + 1
 Hmm remember i heard Cannondale hired a dude from Rock shox to help them with the Lefty?
  • + 1
 They hired Boobar as head of all suspension design. So linkages and kinematics as well.
  • + 1
 I actively avoid bikes with proprietary parts. I can't see me ever owning a cannondale.
  • + 6
 So you ride a rigid hardtail?
  • + 1
 That looks really intense.
  • + 2
 BallsTech carbon?
  • + 1
 Dear Cannondale: PLEASE JUST MAKE A NORMAL MOUNTAIN BIKE.
  • + 8
 What's "not normal" about this?
  • + 6
 This is a normal bike, as normal as cannondale gets, AI is no more annoying than boost, or boosty boost. And the rear shock can be replaced with a non proprietary part, you could even go to a big shock like the x2 and x2 air.
  • + 3
 How is this not a normal bike?
  • + 1
 @Gruzovik: @jamesdunford: I'm half joking BUT...

Everyone wants a bike that's good at everything. Some companies have figured out how to make a 160mm bike that pedals really well (Spesh Enduro). Others make 120mm 29ers that still feel playful and can handle chunk (Yeti 4.5, Transition Smuggler).

Cannondale has taken this mission a little literally and has been trying to make a bike that actually, physically transforms from a 120mm XC rig into a 160mm playbike with a handlebar switch.

Unfortunately, it never quite works and the compromises it requires are never paid back in the promise the marketing guys wanted.

Cannondale has always been an iconoclast (the Headshock and Lefty forks, the Delta frame... and don't forget the motorcycles!) and I suppose that's cool but I'd love to see them just make a mountain bike that people love.

Lots of replies to this article harping on this basic idea.

If anyone owns a Jekyll and loves it, please forgive me. I've just never seen one on a trail.
  • + 1
 @Gruzovik: Dished wheel, press fit BB, travel adjust, internal cable routing that exits under the BB. Nice geo though.
  • + 2
 F*ck normal
  • + 2
 @LA-Law: I am in SD, i see plenty of them at summit, this bike is too new to be out in force.

I like it soo far.
  • + 1
 @LA-Law: "but I'd love to see them just make a mountain bike that people love" Did it with the Prophet, hated the fame and fortune it brought them, couldn't walk down the street to buy groceries without getting hastled for autographs, created the Claymore, vanished into the woods, happy and unpopular again. Oh, and their xc machines have sold a fncking load.
  • + 2
 Had a quick carpark test on this bike last night, seemed kinda normal once you're on it.
  • + 1
 Not all Jekyll's have lefty's mine came with Pike ?
  • + 2
 I really like this one
  • + 1
 Finally Cannondale drops an inch from the large size seatpost.
  • + 0
 OMG - a single pivot bike! what will they think of next ....
  • + 2
 I have a new Trigger, and do kind of wonder why they didn't use a CS pivot. Shrug.
  • + 3
 yeah, everyone knows the more links, the better
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 7, 2017 at 10:07) (Below Threshold)
 Meathooker, you are right, if not for the color I wouldn't notice the striking similarity to Santa Cruz S8.
  • + 0
 @fatallightning: they spent too much time flipping the shock 180 degrees to get rid of dyad. Ran out of time to find a good place for a bottle or new pivots.
  • - 1
 After being in this MTB arguing business for almost 10 years now, I can say that I have a couple of markers for people I speak to.
"Single pivot bad" - harmless fool
"4 bar linkage with wheel axle attached to the same bar as the main pivot called single pivot" - Fkng idiot, the first dude does not pretend he knows something when he spits out dumb statements
  • + 1
 Cannondale have always been single pivot afaik
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: is single pivot different to APP?
  • + 2
 @BenPea: not at all, shock driving rocker link on Butcher wasn't doing anything in there as compared to Heckler. Same bike in fact. Linkage was placed there by marketing department, and some claim it wasn't even moving. Same same. Single pivot, outdated design, Pedal Jack, Brake Bob and Whiny Wendy. All at the same time. Meanwhile Bronson with VPP and air shock is soooo superior. So is Yeti with hadron collider instead of lower pivot, miles, literally miles (Swedish miles) ahead. Or as Team Robot would call it: single pivots Unrideable.
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: ok, I'm trying to navigate my way around your meta-irony. You're saying that any bike with a single pivot or whose rear axle is on the chainstay... sucks, yes? Or did i fall off the crazy wire on the wrong side?
  • + 0
 @BenPea: i mean it doesn't matter that much and single pivots get too much undeserved sht, while many designs (like using air shocks with VPP) go unnoticed. APP had linkage controlling how shock is being compressed, so if that's a single pivot then I don't know what Heckler or Bullit were. Absolute Single pivots? You can't put equals sign between them
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: ok... Let me get this straight... Vpp and air = bad. Faux bar > single pivot. Single pivot = good? Faux bar = App = overrated? f*ck it, tell me in polish.
  • - 2
 straight? It depends. Good & Bad works for Western movie
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns:
""4 bar linkage with wheel axle attached to the same bar as the main pivot called single pivot" - Fkng idiot"
As far as I know a "4 bar etc" (like this bike) is called faux bar, and is form of linkage driven single pivot. Right?
  • - 1
 @ismasan: this may be too much but not every 4 bar linkage is a faux bar but every faux bar linkage is a 4 bar linkage... also Indians do not come from India. This is all very confusing, I know.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: f*ck me, where do i start?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: kind of like some idiot talking smack about Trails he's never ridden
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I know the difference, you got me wrong here I think.
To simplify, were you saying this bike is not a single pivot?
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: whatever happened to Team Robot?
Now there was a guy that had given out all his f*cks and had none left
  • + 0
 this new line from Cannondale looks very nice.
  • + 1
 Oh Oh!
  • + 1
 Harganya mules.
  • - 3
 Cannondale: stuffing as much remotes on the handlebars as possible.
  • + 22
 no, that's scott.
  • + 3
 @dudee47: LOL Very true
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