Everyone stop bashing Cannondale, they are trying something new praising it to be the best, give them two years and they will stop making this bike try something new again and claim its best.....Then two years later they will stop making its again try something new again aaand you get the picture - Carbon Raven Anyone?
It looks to similar to Scott. They should use some custom Talas forks, so the forks could be controled with the same lever that shox are. Konas Magic Link seems to work better to me. Uses normal shock. Gives all travel automaticly when it's needed. But C-dales looks way better.
They sold me on over mountain, makes so much more sense than all mountain. Ha ha. I took a look at their website and it appears that these bikes don't come with travel adjust forks. Seems like the type of person that would buy this bike would want a travel adjust fork, too.
the "new designer" working for Cannondale is Peter Denk, a very smart design-engineer who created many of Scott's innovative adjustable travel and carbon fibre bikes, as well as many other innovations such as Rockshox's "u-turn" travel adjustment feature, which Mr. Denk owns the patent for!
expect sick things from Cannondale with Peter Denk on board
what is that interesting rear suspension system that's a small rod in a big air shock. i was like OMFG that thing looks like it'll snap... lol. like a coilover without a coil...
STUPID name..... But good looking bikes (in my eye). Riding buddy has a Jekyll on order, can't wait to test it. If the system works smoothly I could see it being very handy.
Yeah, Scott was there first with the Genius, pull shock, on the fly adjustable travel etc, well f**k me if both bikes weren't designed by the same guy!
yeah - but this time c'dale at least got someone else to build the complicated part - the shock I am going to hold judgment on these. I want to hear some tests first before considering, and it is a bit strange that no-one seems to have been given a bike yet for a long test...
Scott's equalizer shock actually works really well... and its a DT Swiss product. Easy to service and just as reliable as all the other shocks out there.
No it doesn't. I had nothing but problems with the one on my Ransom. Never used the travel adjust as much as I thought either. Finally it overheated and blew in the Alps this year, so I got an RP23 fitted... much lighter and works so much better. For me anyway.
Imo this kind of shock is just too complicated and heavy, even if it is an amazing piece of technology. Hopefully though, Fox will have more luck with theirs than I Scott did with the Equalizer.
expensive, just like every other Cannondale worth its salt. I was checking out their website, this Claymore bike really is pretty nice. Would love to try one out.
Pshhh....Paleez! It's FINALLY the only half way decent looking bike Cannondale has EVER created! EVER! Even if it does look like a hashed over remake of every other companies first gen bikes....
Cannondale is like the geeksquad of mtn biking...they have all the tech, gizmos and gadgets...but they just don't know what it takes to impress the ladies...
But not to totally hate, I don't think it's horrible. I already know the entire cycling world is talking behind their hands at the pull shock...we all remember how awesome those were....but I have faith. I think. Well, I have curiosity to say the least! Gotta push those envelopes, right??
What it takes to impress the ladies? You mean looks? While I will admit, their bikes aren't always the fre-fre-freshest looking bikes out there, every single one I've ridden was a monster on the trail. They make amazing bikes. And what's wrong with pull shocks? Scott's been using them for a long time and they perform brilliantly.
Scott bikes have had this design long before Cannondale... they use a DT Swiss pull shock. not new.. and over mountain is just a clever way of saying .. all mountain.. nothing new here. Just different.. which is good.
no its not. It fits among the 'all-mountain' and 'enduro' style of bikes, just has a proprietry, angle and travel adjustable system..the bikes are still gonna be the same weights as AM bikes, but can become XC angled..
Scott did pretty much the same thing, and even they weren't the first people to try it. Kona also does something similar with their Magic Link system. So far neither the Scott nor the Kona have revolutionized any specific discipline of riding.
Good for Cannondale to make a cool looking bike...
Over Mountain ??? OHHH All Mountain gotcha..
Scott Bike actually have been doing this for years now.. especially with the Scott Genius.. using a DT Swiss pull shock. And now they have the Genius LT (long Travel) Scott bikes have been using adjustable travel via a handlebar mounted switch for long time now.
Think I'll stick to my Scott and Trek bikes... they're more humble.
Scott for life, they've been doing it for so long, they are one of the best if not the best bike guys out there for there tech and carbon bikes. The genius LT is amazingly light for that much travel. And i wouldnt trust that claymore for that much abuse, cause pull shocks dont like the bike park.
It looks like a 4 bar but with the pivot above the rear axle that makes it a single pivot (unless there's a linkage behind the chainrings I can't see). I gather the flow mode is merely a remote lockout for the rear shock? I don't mean to sound so negative but this video and even their website seems to be more hype than info.
Cannondale sucks? What am I reading? And how can you say it can't replace the feel of a coil shock if you haven't ridden a pull shock bike? I've ridden some scott bikes with pull shocks and they felt great. They were however shorter travel 6" bikes. So I don't know how they would feel or last for the 8" version of this. But given Cannondales history I'm hopeful.
as an owner of the original magic link and the new 2010 coilair, i can say from experience that they aren't gimmicks; it really works. However, its squeaky, heavy, and flexy. Whatever happened to just having a propedal switch? Make a 7"+ bike not bob, no matter what the frame design. Take an sx trail, a stinky, or a nomad and build it up light and just use propedal.
Actually I just remembered that Specialized made an on-the-fly adjustable travel suspension bike a few years ago. They worked in tandem with Fox to make something called the "Itch Switch" which changed the travel from 5" to 2.5" or so on the older Enduro frames. As I recall the shock worked pretty well on other bikes too, in fact my friend put one on his Bullit and it switched between about 3" and 6" of travel with the flip of a little lever.
the "new designer" working for Cannondale is Peter Denk, a very smart design-engineer who created many of Scott's innovative adjustable travel and carbon fibre bikes, as well as many other innovations such as Rockshox's "u-turn" travel adjustment feature, which Mr. Denk owns the patent for!
expect sick things from Cannondale with Peter Denk on board
www.bikerumor.com/2010/06/21/cannondale-revives-jekyll-mountain-bik-creates-new-over-mountain-category
I am going to hold judgment on these. I want to hear some tests first before considering, and it is a bit strange that no-one seems to have been given a bike yet for a long test...
Finally it overheated and blew in the Alps this year, so I got an RP23 fitted... much lighter and works so much better. For me anyway.
Imo this kind of shock is just too complicated and heavy, even if it is an amazing piece of technology.
Hopefully though, Fox will have more luck with theirs than I Scott did with the Equalizer.
Cannondale is like the geeksquad of mtn biking...they have all the tech, gizmos and gadgets...but they just don't know what it takes to impress the ladies...
But not to totally hate, I don't think it's horrible. I already know the entire cycling world is talking behind their hands at the pull shock...we all remember how awesome those were....but I have faith. I think. Well, I have curiosity to say the least! Gotta push those envelopes, right??
Over Mountain ??? OHHH All Mountain gotcha..
Scott Bike actually have been doing this for years now.. especially with the Scott Genius.. using a DT Swiss pull shock. And now they have the Genius LT (long Travel) Scott bikes have been using adjustable travel via a handlebar mounted switch for long time now.
Think I'll stick to my Scott and Trek bikes... they're more humble.