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Canyon & Orange Comment on Delays Caused by Blocked Suez Canal

Mar 27, 2021
by Alicia Leggett  
At least we're getting jokes out of this one.

Because there's an enormous ship blocking one of the most essential global trade arteries, we reached out to some major European bike brands to ask if and how this may further affect the current global bike parts shortage. It turns out that yes, your new bike very well might be on the Ever Given or on one of the 150+ ships now stuck in a holding pattern at the Suez Canal. So far, both Canyon and Orange have acknowledged that the Suez blockage could have ripple effects for bike companies. And those are just the two we've heard from. It's safe to say that they're not alone, and we will update this article with information from other companies when we hear more.

Canyon Bikes

Have you had any shipments delayed as a result of the blockage?

Yes, one of our shipments is loaded on the “Ever Given” and there are several shipments blocked on vessels which cannot pass the Suez canal. This will cause a delayed ETD in Rotterdam and will lead to a bottleneck in the harbour. Currently they have no ships to unload. In a couple of days the ships have to wait in another queue in front of the kai. If the Ever Given cannot be removed out of the channel, all ships have to take the way around Africa. That will cause delays which are even more that painful in the current situation. We are also concerned about the bullwhip effects. The shipping schedules are disturbed. Ships cannot return to Asia in time. Containers are blocked longer than expected. Shipping capacity and container shortage are already a big issue. The situation will become worse in a couple of weeks.

What parts are in short supply for you right now?

In general: Almost all parts are causing trouble. But we are on it to find the best possible solution for our customers. Concretely on the Evergreen situation: We are still checking the impact. Currently it is not clear when we will receive the parts from the Ever Given and the parts of the other ships waiting in the channel. We are working with different scenarios and try to catch up by pulling ahead the next shipment. Due to the high demand in the factories in Asia we can only catch up by switching to AIR cargo.

What parts and materials do you have shipped from Asia?

Many parts are coming from Asia: Shimano, SRAM, Fox… many suppliers are based in Asia.

How often do you get new shipments from Asia?

Shipments from Asia arrive daily at our assembly sites, can be multiple shipments per day. We receive FCL & LCL shipments (FCL = Full Container Load, LCL = Less than Container Load).

What would it mean for Canyon if the canal stays blocked for the next few weeks?

The longer transport times (if the vessels have to take the longer route – Cape of Good Hope) will affect the material availability at our assembly sites – which is not that great anyway atm – and lead to reduced production outputs and finally delayed customer deliveries. We also have to deal with higher cost, especially when we – as an alternative – we need to switch to other transport modes (air, rail/road). If availability would be okay – probably not – it could occur that we have to reorder parts if the canal will be blocked for weeks. Plus, as mentioned above, we need to think of the bullwhip effect.

Would you need to increase bike prices if bike parts become even harder to get?

Canyon is about “democratizing performance”, so the value proposition we provide is core to the brand. That’s de facto a direct order to continue to do everything possible to address the current challenges in getting needed raw materials to keep our delivery promises to our customers, while minimizing any adjustments to pricing – even if our costs are raising.

Orange Bikes

bigquotesFortunately, we don’t have any goods on the blocked vessel currently in the Suez Canal. We do however, have circa 1000 bikes heading in that direction so if the canal stays blocked for much longer then we will be heading for delays.

What this means is that essentially some of our customers are going to be without those particular bikes for as long as the canal is blocked. We have regular shipments of both bikes and bike parts from the Far East so providing the issue is cleared up in a reasonable amount of time, our business shouldn’t be affected too much.

Our UK factory can still continue to manufacture frames and we have a sufficient amount of parts in stock to continue building bikes so while some customers will see delays, others will continue to see their orders fulfilled in a reasonable time.

It’s important that we can continue to update our customers on the progress of their orders. In turn, their understanding on the matter is greatly appreciated.

Additional responses from companies will be added to this article.

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  • 267 17
 I had no idea the Suez Canal was so pivotal to our supply chain. I just thought it was a cool map in Battlefield 1...
  • 77 113
flag philthyphill (Mar 27, 2021 at 3:39) (Below Threshold)
 Well how did you think the bikes were transported from Asia to Europe?
  • 354 37
 seismicninja's post is brought to you by... the failure that is known as the U.S. educational system.
  • 43 10
 Is this a joke about us education quality ?
  • 19 4
 Panama canal for tou guys, this sucks for Europe
  • 113 3
 @filthyphill: they are transported on the ship called sarcasm.
  • 13 2
 For you (USA) it's not especially pivotal. For the west coast not at all, for the east coast the Northwest Passage seems like a viable option. Besides the Panama canal of course.
  • 24 2
 Its not such a pivotal route for US supply chain as your stuff comes over the Pacific. The statistic of 12% world shipping does not quite reflect that there is an entire Pacific and Asian trade network. The issue with the Suez is Asia to Europe and that includes oil from the Middle East as well. The statistic would sound better if it said near 100% of Asia/Euro shipping passes through there. This is actually a massive thing. Its in the news but the impact will be really significant and will massively impact the just-in-time supply chain in already challenging times. Never mind the bike bits, Europe imports huge amounts of food from Asia such as Chicken (nasty), medical equipment such as PPE for COVID, and the list goes on and on and on and on.....
  • 13 0
 @filthyphill: Stargate
  • 29 27
 @filthyphill: Geography is not the strong suit of many americans . ok, sorry, that was nasty , but ,,,?
  • 6 1
 @ilovedust: 20-30% of crude oil crossing Suez is going for US,so yes it would affect US supply chain 1 way or the other...Oil ships do not go around Africa to reach Mediterranean see,it takes much much longer.
It is big problem,it could take several months to clear Suez if the ship is damaged. Now best chance is chop the stuck parts and pull the ship away.
It is almost impossible to get a ship stuck like that,it must be a big chain of fails.
  • 4 2
 LOL man I need to get on that game again.
  • 24 2
 Fuck Suez. It's either an endless battle for C, or one team rolls the other. No other options.
  • 6 0
 @ilovedust & @homerjm - are we still taking about a computer game here?
  • 3 1
 @Chuckolicious: I use the portal all the time, fellow cosmic demon.
  • 31 34
 @scott-townes: Yeah instead of teaching kids about geography and math they are telling teaching kids how America is a systemic racist country.
  • 1 0
 @filthyphill: Maybe on a bike Smile Smile Smile
  • 1 0
 @scott-townes: you got that right...
  • 20 0
 This was a solid joke and had the added benefit of giving people something to complain about Americans. Win-win.
  • 3 2
 @filthyphill: I thought your mum brought them
  • 2 0
 I love self deprecating humor.
  • 1 0
 @Sirios: not nasty, accurate
  • 2 1
 @zede: not a joke. It really is that bad.
  • 2 0
 The thing I definitely don't understand with the Suez Canal, is if it so easily disrupted, and the disruption can have such significant effects, why isn't there a redundant passage? For something of such key criticalality I would respect 2N redundancy...maybe they'll be inclined to carve out another one adjacent. Same thing could be said for the Panama canal. World markets shouldn't be hinging on a single point of failure that can completely shut down a critical system.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: So was shipping traffic only effected in one direction? Sure seemed like both directions got interrupted by the blockage. Is each passage not large enough for bidirectional traffic? Seems like the expansion perhaps did not provide full redundancy perhaps on N+1 versus 2N as it should be.
  • 1 0
Well first of all, it isn’t so easily disrupted. This was a rare and catastrophic series of unfortunate events, leading to an unprecedented and extremely costly supply-chain disruption.

Secondly, I’m not sure how easy you think it is to just build a “redundant” route for super tankers. These ships draw massive amounts of water and need very deep harbors/shipping lanes. There’s a reason there are very few passages across continents. For decades there has been a push to build a second lane through lake Nicaragua, which fortunately hasn’t happened—it would have devastating ecological consequences, and would likely not benefit the Nicaraguan people. So for now, certain key shipping lanes get bottlenecked in fairly tight passages that are typically a combination of naturally occurring geography with some man-made improvements/changes (typically dredging) to accommodate these massive ships. In other words, tl/dr; “redundancy” is easier said than done.
  • 2 0
 @shammer8: It would appear it is very easily disrupted if high winds, which are common to the region, can blow a large ship off course and allow it to become beached. Now, it would seem that there is likely a factor of operator error involved since ships of the size of the one that got stuck are not uncommon to the Suez Canal, and high winds are also common to the area. Wind and ship size alone couldn't be the sole factors otherwise this would happen far more often. With that said, if global markets are highly dependent on infrastructure there is a vested interest in its resilience, which often requires a degree of redundancy. Yes projects like the Suez Canal are both very hard to complete and very expensive, but the cost to build them pales in comparison to the amount of commerce that is enabled by their existence. I think global markets are simply accepting too much risk but are unwilling to pay for the resilience they expect. That said, I'm not encouraging ecological destruction, but I do think some manner of redundancy and resiliency should be present in systems of this level of criticality. Perhaps the Suez Canal could have been less disrupted if the secondary challel was managed slightly differently temporarily to allow bidirectional travel.
  • 1 0
 @SuperHighBeam: true, but I imagine the costs would be beyond imagining. Educated guestimation anyone?
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 @rokboy: Nah. Someone could definitely ascertain a cost for such a project. It would be high, but it would likely pay for itself in less than 20 years when you take into consideration the dollar value of the commerce that it permits. If I had to guess $500 billion to $1trillion (3 gorges dam was $200billion for comparison). Keep in mind global Gross-Domestic-Product is $87trillion per year. Suez Canal accounts for 10% of that, so $8.7trillion per year.
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 @SuperHighBeam: These are all valid points. The fact that this is the first a ship has block this passage (or any major canal for that matter) in my lifetime (to my recollection, anyways) does suggest that it is a rare occurrence. Now that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be more redundancy, and perhaps it will be a more frequent event with the larger supertanker sizes that have been rolled out in the last decade (or less?).

As for estimating cost, I was actually very surprised to find out how relatively inexpensive the proposed cost of the Nicaragua project is (in 2014, this article suggests they estimated the cost to be $40 billion): www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/new-canal-through-central-america-could-have-devastating-consequences-180953394

I have no idea where exactly you're imagining a redundant route for the Suez Canal to exist, but assuming you're thinking it would flow roughly in parallel, I'm not sure there are really any comparable projects to estimate a cost from—the distance is at least 100 miles (160km) by land, which is somewhat longer than the land route necessary to be dug if the Nicaraguan canal were to have gone forward. This is all pure speculation on my part, but I'm assuming the $40 billion number was an underestimate of what the true cost would have been (these mega projects almost always seem to go over budget), and since that article was written in 2014, this figure would be higher in todays dollars either way.

But even at $100-200 billion, it would seem like it would make a lot of sense given that I've seen estimates ranging from $5-10 billion per day in trade disruption (I doubt those figures accurately capture the full extent of disruption further down the supply chain either). So while this is all based on pure speculation, you've got the armchair civil engineer and global industrialist in me is convinced.
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 @shammer8: You're absolutely right that this occurence could be a fluke, but it's a fluke with such large implications that I bet the global logistics industry will not be so tolerable as to let it happen again. Although a seemingly high pricepoint, due to the extensive use and reliance on this infrastructure just about any price for redundancy would be worthwhile since it would pale in comparison to the value of goods that transit it daily. As for location for a redundant canal, I'd place such a thing very close and just flex eminent domain to acquire the land (I bet residential property and small commercial entities pepper the edges of the canal).
  • 1 0
 @SuperHighBeam: I want to see all the zeros on these figures please for maximum shock value
Joking aside, I wonder what security is like on the suez and Panama, this seems like a great way to cripple countries with economic terrorism
  • 1 0
 @rokboy: I do wonder if their was an uptick in piracy in the Red Sea due to the large number of ships just sitting adrift waiting to get through the canal. I can't imagine the security within the canals is real tight, but I know the waters on either side are often heavily patrolled. US Navy frequently patrols the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, and it's probably likely navies are present on either side of Panama Canal too. Developed countries have a knack for protecting their economic interests as a matter of national security. You right though, critical infrastructure like this could easily be a target of a terrorist organization since so much economic value is at stake. I imagine military might could be coordinated very quickly (air or water) to protect such infrastructure from bad actors though.
  • 103 1
 They need to parachute in Dan Atherton. He would clear it in no time a lay down a perfect jump track at the side of the canal.
  • 91 0
 The Digger
Ralph Wigham voice

"I'm helping!"
  • 13 0
 Draft on that ship is 16 meters so that digger needs to be digging at least 17 down to make even the fart of difference
  • 5 0
 i didn't want to but somehow my brain just did that after reading your comment
  • 3 0
 Comment of the day! Spat my dinner when I read this. Had to clean it all off the lap top before I could write this! Nice one :-D
  • 54 9
 Maybe some companies will realise it is more cost effective and have greater control if they invested in bike and part production in the west. This just shows how fragile the global supply system is. I'm all for a global economy.
  • 19 1
 Take a look into the bike industry and where pretty much the entirety of its production is located. I am with you on the sentiment of re-shoring production but it really would be hugely expensive. The realistic solution is we all need to accept a reduced choice in the industry, like motorcycles for example, it would be possible then but at the moment with 30 models of bike, 5 sizes of each all changing each year, all with different build kits etc there is no easy solution.
  • 14 2
 @justanotherusername: yea if only spec sheet consumers would stop complaining that a bikes reach needs to be 2mm longer every year, frames could be made sustainably else where in the world....
  • 62 14
 Though I agree with the potential solution above, the truth is, this industry is a full cash-grab. Everyones been conditioned to accept the ridiculous prices. Noone is hurting in this industry except small shop owners. The brands themselves are doing just fine. Most have actually seen record sales and have been profiting off of the pandemic.You cant keep bikes and parts in-stock anywhere. Raising prices because the business is "struggling" is backwards logic. Perhaps the business is struggling because should be lowering prices, not the other way around.

Slowly, over the course of a few seasons, that $25 t-shirt magically changed into $60 t-shirts
$80 footwear slowly turned into $180 footwear
Complete bikes that used to cost $2k are now a $2k frame-only

This industry hasn't struggled since the 90's. It's a golden goose now. Don't believe the hype.
  • 11 5
 @NYShred: Do you know what the profit margin is say for the manufacturer of a flat pedal?

How about the profit margin for an aluminium frame?

Where are your assumptions that huge profit margins are being made?
  • 6 3
 @NYShred: But we also enjoy amazing values we never had. Ibis Ripley AF and Ripmo AF are far better than anything that was available for the price 5 or 10 years ago. YT, Marin, and even Specialized have nice bikes at $3,000, as do dozens of other companies.
  • 18 0
 @NYShred: Your money is worth less and less while you still earn the same amount.
  • 14 0
 @justanotherusername: If small companies like Guerilla Gravity can produce their own frames, I'm sure the bigger companies can do it as well.
  • 31 1
 @tacklingdummy: GG and other smaller NA based OEs are still beholden to fluctuations in global supply chains, even for "just" frame production. You can have a "Made in US or CA" bike that is comprised completely of Chinese/Taiwan sourced aluminum/carbon/steel/etc. There are just as many US made frames comprised of Asian sourced materials as not. Boutique domestic manufacturers are just as susceptible to ocean carrier and global supply related disruptions as the Big OEs, its just a bit less direct.

Issues with global shipping lanes, such as this one with the EVER GIVEN, send ripples across the bike world.... not just through big OEM's with offshore assembly plants. The global marketplace is deeply interconnected, soup-to-nuts, and that isn't changing anytime soon. As wholesome as many of these nationalistic comments are, they are antiquated and puritanical. We need true progressive thought when it comes to making REAL global supply chain improvements and multilateral trade regulations.

Also, North America and EU/UK aren't victims to an evil far-east economic empire; its time we all accept that the most developed nations in the world willingly turned blind eyes to human rights abuses and political corruptness in order to maximize their profits at home. China didn't take our jobs, our corporations sold them off to the lowest bidder, and it put rocket boosters on their profits (and brought us value previously unseen). They were directly empowered to do so through WCO/WTO trade regulation changes they lobbied for.

The global supply chain is an absolute marvel, unseen by human history. Bicycles are a perfect finished product to analyze its sheer robustness and velocity. But issues like this expose it's fragility, which can only be addressed through bold, forward thinking changes that are properly scaled for the future.

  • 4 3
 I definitely wouldn’t buy an orange. But if I did I would want the frame made in the Far East where QC is better!
  • 1 0
 @Altron5000: I have 1 UK made and 1 Far East made Orange, the paint is crap on the Far East made one. I haven’t had any problems with the UK made one.
  • 4 0
 @Bobby12many: Yeah, but they can be much less susceptible to global supply chain issues. Much easier to ship small parts or materials than entire frames and bikes and can ship it via air if necessary. It decreases dramatically on the dependence of global manufacturing. Right now GG has only a 6-8 week turnaround compared to other companies that have several month turnarounds or not even be able to get their bikes. The US and the world saw how dependent they were on China during this pandemic with masks, PPE equipment, among other things. Not a bad thing to have more products produced in the country to be more independent. That is what China is trying to achieve. They want to be 100% independent of the world.
  • 5 0
I understand your sentiment and I do agree that importers need to be more diverse in their supply chains, but its not that simple. What you are describing is supply chain diversity, not independence. The pandemic, along with 232/301 Tariffs in the US really helped speed up that process of getting manufacturing out of China and having more agile chains of inputs. But what does that actually mean? Companies are now moving manufacturing to Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc for the same reasons they turned to China decades ago.

The big OEs are producing millions of units a year, respectively, for markets all over the world. How many bikes does GG produce a year? a few thousand? The scale of production is something you cant just disregard for the sake of comparison.

Also, companies like Merida, Trek, etc have subsidiaries in many countries, including China.... how do you domesticate and insulate your production when you have HQs and a dealer base in over a dozen countries?

There are no perfect answers, obviously, but I think its a worthwhile topic of discussion that more people should have fluency in.
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 @Bobby12many: Scale is definitely an issue, however, they could have certain models manufactured in the country or perhaps different divisions (MTB) manufactured in the country. Similar to car manufacturers will build certain models in their country and elsewhere, although that is getting far and fewer between nowadays. To me, there seems like there could be more of a balance than absolutely everything manufactured overseas and that would better.

It is a complex problem that has taken decades to create. Because of government policies in 2000, 2001, all the medication manufacturing went to China in a couple years. That is insane. Now the US is totally dependent on China for medications. Not good if they decide to leverage that power.
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: I work in the industry and have spent time with some marquee brands. You would be amazed at the margins the manufacturers make. The margins get smaller as you go further down the distribution chain, and smaller resellers/wholesalers and small local IBS's do have to be somewhat conscious of cash flow. But in my experience it's really just an industry about cash flow, the quantity of demand is pretty solid and consistent.
  • 2 0
 @slimjimihendrix: Amazed in small or big margins? Many of the bigger companies have a ton of overhead costs and many of the smaller companies seem to be competing if they have comparable product because they have much lower overhead.
  • 39 0
 "We're gonna need a bigger digger..."

- Richard Hammond
  • 39 0
 Use promo code ShipFreeing2021 for +10% on your next purchase.
  • 10 1
 Surely the code is EVERGIVENEXTRA?
  • 1 0
 I see what you did there! Big Grin
  • 28 2
 Guerilla Gravity has renegade builds with components considered aftermarket from some local brands. The propose was to reduce the chain of transportation and get customers bikes faster due to Covid slowdown. Great way to stay flexible and adapt.
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 In addition to that, with their frame manufacturing process which greatly eliminates the need for vast armies of laborers (albeit very, very, very inexpensive labor), I am curious if other companies will eventually follow suit and bring manufacturing back to where their respective HQs are. They'd have to figure out how GG pulled off their thermoplastic magic, but the opportunity to substantially reduce production costs and the need for huge factories/labor pools would seem enticing (to say nothing of the shipping issues they are facing now). It would be a big leap for a lot of the name brand companies, so it may never happen since they're so invested in Asian production - but it would be neat to see it someday.
  • 6 1
 GG rider and big fan but the renegade build is a shitty deal compared to the normal spec. It's cool that they are still able to supply bikes. I'm guessing the big guys are sucking up all the usual oem stuff, hopefully the little guys don't get too squeezed out before things get more normal.
  • 3 0
 Scratch that looks like prices have come down since i last looked and it's not a bad deal if you are ok with the box 9spd
  • 11 0
 Frames still need chains, hubs need pawls, headsets need bearings, cables need housing. It’s one thing to set up frame manufacturing, or even major components like a stem, but another matter to have a reliable supply chain for ALL of those little parts. Generations of lean manufacturing and 80/20 thinking have turned US manufacturing into “final assembly”.
  • 1 0
 @jackalope: I don't think carbon frame assembly in Taiwan is very, very, very inexpensive. Cheaper than US, but it's still skilled labor in a first world country. I'd be curious what they really earn per hour.
  • 1 0
 @catweasel: I need to look back into their new builds. I love the idea of Box Prime 9 and some of the less common brands, I still have a dream to build a bike without a single part from Sram/Shimano/Fox/etc.
  • 1 0
 @mtb-thetown: I was thinking more of production in China tbh. I picked up a brand new carbon SC Blur for $1K from Back Country several years ago, and saw plenty of other name brand carbon frames for sale at similar discounts over the following years - albeit not the newest model, but still. I'm not claiming they're making bank on selling them that cheap, but somehow I doubt they're losing money on it. Also, as somehow who's been in the industrial pretreatment world for a long time, I can assure you things are markedly easier to do in Taiwan (to say nothing of China) than compared to here. Point being, that cost savings comes from somewhere, with labor being part of it - but perhaps less of a difference in Taiwan to your point. I have no real issue with things being built overseas, as no can argue places like Taiwan don't have tremendous advantages in traditonal frame manufacturing techniques and expertise. But if you switch up the manufacturing process itself to take much of the labor (and shipping costs) out of it, there's seems to be an arguement to made that you can do that here. Not overnight of course because theres a scalability issue and no existing manufacturing capability here, but doable it seems.
  • 17 0
 Boy, this sucks. I propose all of those parts be rerouted to the US and Canada. =D
  • 7 1
 There's an idea! Flood our market and halve the prices then Europeans could buy it all from Jenson and get their shit on time.
  • 18 3
 What a fruity year, wonder if new buyers are ever given hope of new steed now.. sure is a huge canyon to cross..
  • 19 3
 Billions being tied up - yet they have one excavator on the job.
  • 23 0
 He’s social distancing
  • 8 4
 This blockade will get drawn out for quite a while. This world is a stage.
  • 7 17
flag swellhunter (Mar 27, 2021 at 6:50) (Below Threshold)
 Union labor probably
  • 1 0
 They need to bring Big Brutus out of retirement.
  • 1 0
 I must admit I did not expect this to be solved so soon.
  • 11 1
 Gorilla gravity, Devinci, I 9, We are One. Imagine if North America made all the bike parts. And grew all of our own food. Dependency is the same as addiction. If we can't have our toys we go into withdrawal.
Shame we can't be independent instead of being dependant on Asia. World trade is great for the stock brokers. In fact some players will reap huge profits from this traffic jam and some people will fail.
As for people's toys and material stuff getting here late. I don't care. I care about the environment and the general state of people's health but the economy? Very low on my list of concern s.
  • 8 0
 I see Gorilla Gravity frame sold nearly at the same price as big-name manufacturers with overseas productions where labor is extremely cheap. I would rather support companies that domestically make their products. Also with Shimano products (to the best of my knowledge) that are made in Japan.
  • 1 0
 @femto505: most high end stuff is. SLX and up for sure, not sure of the new Deore. SLX may have some in Non-Japanese made parts but pretty sure XT, XTR, 105, Ultegra and Dura Ace are all made in Sakai.
  • 13 5
 Engineers continue to strive to free the ship, but so far it hasn't exactly gone like clockwork. Provided they hold their nerve, I'm .confident they'll eventually crush it.
  • 6 3
 One more and that would of been Five puns, but at this Stage not bad going
  • 9 1
 Nuke it from orbit Only way to be sure
  • 1 0
 @nojzilla: Maybe Orange should Switch their transport
  • 2 0
 @nojzilla: best movie quote ever (well top ten anyway)
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: an it works in any family situation Wink
  • 1 0
 @nojzilla: “we’re f***ed man!”
  • 13 4
 but but but, orange should be UK made. and now 1000 bikes are coming from china. long live god old slave labour.
  • 2 0
 Only the hardtails are made outside the UK. All other bikes are handmade in Halifax Wink
  • 8 0
 you're telling me that one of the fundamental global trade routes is blocked and they managed to muster up one rusty old Komatsu to solve the issue?
  • 10 2
 Hope they decrease the price once normality returns.
  • 52 2
 Normality left the building in 2019, sorry.
  • 6 3
 sorry, my fat finger down voted you,
  • 17 4
 @danielstutt: tbh normality left the UK in 2016

Weve been paying extra ever since
  • 1 0
 Yes, if there is space in the profits, they will. (market competetion)
  • 6 2
  • 8 0
 Prices are like ratchet wrenches on a rusty bolt. They move freely in one direction and very slowly in the other one.
  • 6 0
 It's 10 days to go around the Cape, right? Is this anything more than a game of risk-reward for those waiting to get through?
  • 2 1
 2 months instead of ten days bro.
  • 11 1
 The somali pirates already waiting to get some free bikes
  • 5 0
 It increases fuel cost by insane amounts, you have the pirate problem and I read somewhere that the seas can be extremely rough around the horn of africa.
  • 12 0
 @dark-o: Can't wait for the edit out of Somalia
  • 2 0
 You all should read about u.s.s. enterprise.....this ship is bigger than the enterprise and all the American horsepower that could be attached to her couldn't get her unstuck. They're going to have to figure out a way to raise the water level....
  • 1 0
 Seems pretty on-brand for us humans that the only way to fix out shipping issue is by melting those ice caps a bit... start your engines, other 120 ships stuck in traffic!
  • 1 0
 Wow a bunch of Mt bikers trying to figure out the best way to fix a global supply chain issue. Its f*ckING awesome. First off the comment about our education system in our great nation was spot on. Our country is under attack from within. Im not a big conspiracy guy at all. But just sitting back and listing to all the piece of shut politicians who are so deeply entrenched in our government its crazy. I would rather try and dig out that ship by hand than remove Nancy Pelosi. (Sorry) Back to the subject at hand global supply As a former ILWU local 13 member longshoremen in calif LA Long beach it made me sick unloading ships with containers full of products. And almost all the containers we put back on the ship were empty or full of scrap metal to made into something to be sold back to us again. Its crazy. That's just my opinion we are selling our soul to china. We used to do it all. Everyone have a great day.
  • 5 0
 i can't see any progress made by the excavator Wink
  • 5 0
 Thank God, Canyon frames are not made in Asia. /sarcasm off
  • 1 0
 So the morning the ship gets stuck I get an email saying my new bike will be despatched a month earlier than originally quoted (Yay!) then I read here that Canyon have bikes and parts ready to come through the Canal. Hopefully my frame and components are already in a warehouse in Germany (build slot next week) but if not then hopefully the delay won't push things back past the original delivery date!
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 Got an email from Commencal on Thursday announcing that my Meta am will delayed a month or so. They did not directly attribute this delay to the Suez Canal situation. Fortunately, they were ahead of schedule though so the bike I expected to get in April should still get to me by the end of April. Hopefully this whole thing gets sorted soon.
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 While we all sit here moaning about having to wait for our parts and upgrades to arrive. Spare a thought for the 25 crew on that ship. I can’t imagine how stressed they must be.
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 The poor bastards who arnt officers on the ship do 11 month trips in terrible sweltering conditions. Modern day slavery to get products to the west.
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 Is it possible to do controlled detonation on some parts of the banks or sea bed to free this ship? It's a high risk solution, but there must be one guy/group/ team in this planet who can do it?
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 "If the Ever Given cannot be removed out of the channel, all ships have to take the way around Africa."

Abandoning the Suez Canal seems like a little bit of hyperbole!
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 Well there are other solutions (for example, disassemble the ship). They’ll just take far longer.
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 THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY I WILL NEVER PRE-ORDER A BIKE. My limit for preordering is around 300-400 and even then I need to really want it. I get the mfg needing a deposit. But this exact reason is why you are an idiot to plop several thousand dollars(full retail) on something the manufacturer hasn't even received yet, the dates they give you are 1000% speculation.
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 This has really given us all a lot of insight into just how much goes into our bikes and how many steps are involved.
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 That ships has 2 huge anchors, attached to 2 very long chains. Am I missing something? Use a large helicopter or whatever it takes to drag them backwards to the opposite shore, and the ship can winch itself free.
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 @Dlakusta: yah your right, that wouldn't work. Did some googling, and those anchors weigh 30,000 lbs. A SkyCrane is rated for 20,000lbs. Still, the idea of using the anchors and the ships own windlass to pull itself free is intriguing.
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 I hope also, but doubt prices will decrease; already too expensive, pre-COVID, pre-brexit in my view. I’m happy to pay extra to support a local bike shop if it helps to get them back on their feet.
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 I'm liking the new Orange model next to the Digger...
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 With this chaos we really discover who really produces at home (Orange) and who instead "buys, trades and sells" (Canyon).
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 the future of the world runs on a very tight thread ... the sooner we realize it, the better it will be!
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 FK ! there goes a may delivery on my new bike . Well , maybe not , it's from a small company and they seemed confident that it would be done on time ,,,,,, BUT ?
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 insert, "look at me i'm the captain now"
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 There's me thinking Orange was a UK manufacturer...
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 Only the hardtails are made outside the UK. All other bikes are handmade in Halifax Wink
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 good thing i didnt wait for the grails to restock
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 Guess prices will have double?
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 is this where they announce a price increase?
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 Surely they can bring a ship alongside and transfer some of the containers.
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 Why they keep calling the boat by the wrong name? It couldn't be written any bigger on the side of the boat.
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 Evergreen is the shipping company. All their ships are called Ever *something*
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 I own a machine bigger than that. That machine is 25 years old. What a joke. This is not an accident. China!
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 What does China stand to gain by holding up its own exports?
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 @boozed: prize up till China cannot go back to work at 100%
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 @blacktea: the importer is in need of the goods therefore damaging that end of things far more than the exporters side. They will still be paid and demand will actually increase as a result. In this case it is bikes that we are speaking about but there are surely far more important items on that ship...
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 @boozed: the importer is in need of the goods therefore damaging that end of things far more than the exporters side. They will still be paid and demand will actually increase as a result. In this case it is bikes that we are speaking about but there are surely far more important items on that ship...sorry meant to send that to boozed
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 @specialk1: my theory is that in China the rural workers did not return to the factories (armored cities to fight Covid) and therefore the production was not restarted at 100%
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