Cannabis has long been a fringe appurtenance to mountain biking - Missy Giove got busted back in the day for having 350 pounds of the stuff, Sick Bicycles make a
titanium bong, and athletes like Steve Peat casually
joke about it in interviews.
But take a look through S8 of the WADA banned substances list though, and you'll see it prohibits every natural and synthetic cannabinoid—with one exception, Cannabidiol, or CBD. It was lifted off at the start of last year.
One of its biggest advocates for CBD is Alex Mountain. Alex was a personal trainer before struggles with his business and personal life left him stressed and starting to notice he couldn't move his wrists very well. Before long his friends started calling him 'Glassboy' and he was spending most of his time in a cast. He remembers, "The first thing I noticed was I couldn't do a press up, I couldn't hold my own body weight up. How was I going to throw myself down a hill, get myself round a set of jumps with the aches and pains I had?" He was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and prescribed naproxen but it gave him stomach ulcers and before long he was back in hospital again.
It was another few months before he found a medication that worked. He says, "I ended up consuming CBD and it started to help instantly. So I started once a week consuming quite a lot of it in order to help with the weak saturation of my joints."
Since then he's started
CBD Mountain, a business selling CBD aimed at mountain bikers and other high-impact athletes. He's formulated a product he claims contains zero THC that is currently being used by riders in the UK and even Paralympians.
So what is it and how does it work? CBD is one of the active cannabinoid compounds in the cannabis plant but it crucially doesn't have the psychoactive effects of the other main component, THC. Cannabinoids are naturally occurring and, it may not surprise you to know, particularly prevalent in cannabis. CBD-rich strains of hemp can be selectively bred to produce the highest yield of CBD with minimal amounts of THC and these are harvested for CBD products.
Cannabinoids work with the endocannabinoid system, a modulator of the immune system. One of the functions of the immune system is to boost muscle recovery from injury or exercise. Trace the steps backwards and CBD will supposedly help with recovery as well as general immune health. The theory goes it will mean you feel fresher after riding and reduce your time off the bike with injuries. There are other claimed benefits on top of this - improved sleep, reduced anxiety, diabetes prevention, the list goes on.
In the past 12 months CBD has become a marketer's dream. The number of UK users doubled last year and and it is now possible to buy CBD oil infused products as varied as skincare, beers and marshmallows. There are even rumours that Coca Cola want to release a CBD drink with Canada's Aurora Cannabis.
What do the riders think?Kyle Jameson
Kyle Jameson has arthritis from trail building and knee pain from a bad injury three years ago. He says, “I was in tons of pain and the pills that were prescribed to me made me feel like shit and I wasn't eating. Cannabis products were able to take the pain away, help me sleep and I didn't lose my appetite."
“I use both THC and CBD for pain relief, CBD is my main focus but to get the full effect for CBD you need a small amount of THC. I do notice a difference, my joints flare up after a ride, especially my knee."
"I’ll load up on some CBD topical creams on those specific areas before and after to keep the swelling down and then if I'm in a lot of pain I'll have some kind of light THC/CBD oil or gummy and night to help me sleep. Of course I stretch and try and eat well, without those you aren’t healing anything.”
In fact, KJ is such a big advocate for using cannabis he has picked up a sponsorship from Oregrown, a controversial cannabis company that also support KJ's Black Sage FEST.
Beccy Booth
Beccy Booth, one half of Fat Creations, has suffered from daily neuralgic headaches for seven years following an accident that gave her major whiplash, severe concussion and multiple facial injuries. She uses CBD Mountain and says, “Pre-CBD, my absolute limit without being in horrendous pain would be to run six miles, since taking CBD I have done several 10 mile off road trail runs and I don't have nasty side effects of prescription drugs hindering my riding. I feel more alert and less tired as I'm in less pain and sleeping better. The only side effect I have noticed is an increased feeling of happiness, others have noticed that in me too. My mood has improved a lot.”
Rob WelchRob Welch, who chronicled his return from injury in the recent
Live to Ride edit, has only been using CBD for two weeks but he has already noticed reduced pain after riding. He also said it was helping him sleep as his knee often hurt and was keeping him up at night.
Olly Wilkins
Not everyone is so convinced. Olly Wilkins said: "I suffer from gnarly arthritis in my ankle and took different forms of CBD in the hope it would alleviate some of the pain. I gotta be honest, I found zero change in anything. It's not to say it doesn't work. Maybe I was hoping for too much? I take endless supplements and never notice anything works for pain. If it works for you then it works but I would probably say it's largely a placebo from my own experience."
A lot of riders declined to be involved in this piece altogether. It’s easy to see why, the association with cannabis is still off putting and could be a serious conflict for riders’ other sponsors. In January, the Supercross world was aflame with a CBD controversy as social media egomaniac Dan Bilzerian sponsored Dean Wilson, who is running this year as a privateer, through his CBD company Ignite. The mire thickened at Anaheim where NBC Sports requested Wilson cover any Ignite logos on his race kit as it had not yet been federally approved. Wilson had to comply or risk not racing, unleashing a social media backlash. It’s a controversy that’s likely to continue through the season.
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It's worth looking at the science at this point. The endocannabinoid system was only discovered in 1992 and there are still plenty of gaps in the the scientific understanding of it. A 2018 literature review titled
Cannabis and the Health and Performance of the Elite Athlete (Ware et al.) describes the paradox of cannabis and sport, saying, “Despite evidence that recreational cannabis use may impair psychomotor skills and cognitive function, there is a perception among some athletes that cannabis use may have beneficial effects. The illegal or prohibited status of cannabis worldwide has limited our ability to generate high-quality data on the patterns and prevalence of cannabis use among elite athletes."
The literature review could only conclude, "there is no evidence of performance-enhancing or causal effects', while also admitting that more work needs to be done. All of this isn't to say CBD has no benefits for athletes, more there isn't any evidence yet that it does.
But then, a lot of things that elite athletes take aren't fully understood - most supplements are 'clinically researched' as opposed to 'scientifically proven' to work but the power of testimonies has meant that you're very unlikely to find an elite athlete that now doesn't take them, accepting all the risks that come along with it.
That's another problem for the CBD market too. A study in November 2017, led by Marcel Bonn Miller,
Labeling Accuracy of Cannabidiol Extracts Sold Online analysed 84 CBD products and found 26 per cent contained less CBD than labeled while 43 per cent contained more than labeled. More worrying than this though, the products contained on average one per cent THC, which the study notes "may be sufficient to produce intoxication or impairment, especially among children" and will, crucially, get you popped on a doping test.
Chris Kilmurray, owner of
Point1 Athletic and coach of Tahnee Seagrave, Greg Callaghan and more, warns about the dangers of the “cult” of CBD. He said that although none of his athletes are currently taking it, they are certainly discussing the benefits and effects. He said, “Like any medical product or supplement, it needs to be evidence backed. Using it for "general good" may not actually be the best way to maximise its benefit and may indeed be a waste of money.
“If you are a professional athlete then taking CBD in competition is a risk. It comes from the same plant as THC so the risk for contamination is ever present. Regular use may also blunt the cell signalling that leads to adaptation to training. Essentially meaning you get 'less fit' from the same training dose. That is another area that needs to be monitored and thought about by riders and athletes," says Kilmurray.
“All we need is less hype and more evidence! If CBD does prove to be a wonder drug than that may mean you are behind the curve, but better safe than sorry in this regard in my opinion.”
With CBD only being properly available to athletes for a year and yet to be properly regulated, it's clear there is lots more to learn. However, athletes look for any legal advantage they can get and the many positive reports surrounding CBD will be hard to ignore.
Alex Mountain sees it as the start of the revolution. He says, "The industry, I hope, will go down the route of replacing opiate based medication."
So, snake oil? Wonder supplement? A foil to energy drinks? Is the future green? Time will tell.
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CBD works for what it is CAPABLE of doing, so read up in advance.
This will not make you Aaron Gwin.
This will not heal a broken leg.
This will do what your body lets it, and maybe more.
Signed,
A regular CBD user and chronic pain sufferer
Yes, do all of that, but if something that's ailing you persists, chase down natural solutions before you go bombing even MORE money on scrips that may help but also might kill you a different way.
Ask me how I know.
Sometimes chronic pain cannot be cured by just diet changes. Arthritis and degenerative disorders are times hereditary but also just part of getting old.
"HBO therapy" so you watched binge watched The Sopranos, I can dig that!!
What in you definition is a “complex carbohydrate”? And why are they bad? According to the NIH
Oatmeal, brown rice, quinoa, potatoes, beans, peas and lentils are examples of complex carbs. Not sure why these, in contrast to simple sugars, would be bad.
natural selection? really? Do you pay taxes, do you pay the bank? do you pay pay and pay again with currency with someone else's name on it? and you still think you're all that huh...
I have no idea where did I endorse alcohol. I just said that usage of alcohol by other riders is more than fine by me. At least by people who don’t ride with me. Help yourself, I will post a hashtag #ridestrong or something if you post a pic of broken you on insta.
I am not fine with drivers using it. Just like drivers using weed or worse: insomnia. I like drivers who are woke as fuk.
The latest woo woo I tried and dropped was cold baths. There are people who claim it healed their arthritis, tendonitis, acl and what not. How exactly?! There are people, tons of them, including physiotherapists, who claim that icing a muscle helps to heal the injury! It is fkng insane.
I just tried the “myofascial release” on my lower back, since internet is booming about it. Guess what. My back is now more fkd up that it has been due to SI joint injury. Stretching like Yoga is questionable as hell.
So well, it all “‘may” help, I am not saying it doesn’t, I am saying it surely doesn’t help most people. Like ibuprofen does reduce fever or Aspirine does thin the blood. Strength training or gumnastics do make you stronger.
So it sounds pretty legit.
It takes work but is well worth it.
MLM's remove the need for distribution costs and advertising. Its a 275 billion a year industry ...NFL is 63 billion... And not I do not enroll friends and family...Only small business owners that understand the concept of business. Residual income is the ONLY way to live...
Look at all the bike companies going direct....Yt,Canyon etc... I guess their bikes are shit?
the wealthy and and build networks..everyone else looks for work...
Its the 21 century...The way we do business is changing...Look at Amazon, Uber, Air BNB..
Glad your happy being part of someones system , instead of leveraging one
In the name of science I will test this tonight!
Next thing - using CBD in chemiotherapy helps with pain, recovery etc. Tested on my mother and it REALLY worked, no placebo.
Endometriosis - also helps with pain in this awful disease, also tested on my gf...
Its pretty fresh thing but I see big potential. It really works.
Sadly it wont be promoted, cause it cures a lot of diseases for less money. Thats not good for gentelmens in suits $$
I bet you jerking off would produce similar results in a clinical trial. "Wow, I'm sleeping much better now!"
Drugs have different effects on people, sometimes in different periods of their lives.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHwSmwEwmV4&t=2s
But in my personal opinion as a couch specialist, CBD is indeed a wonderful substance that when introduced to Pinkbike comment board as a topic of discussion can stir up quite a nice fight between weed legalizers vs purists, while all weed should do is chill us down. Let's see
I think you will be able to find someone there who will send them to Austria.
Lots of guys with good seeds that are cheap, for whom this is just a hobby.
It is not even remotely the same.
CBD is almost nonexistent in normal weed as the focus was always on improving THC levels. Here in CO I can get weed with really high THC levels and yet only .0065 mg of CBD if any at all. Your average CBD capsule is 25mg and 50mg is most many will ever need (unless buying crap).
I light up on a regular basis with good old reefer, but it does very little at all compared to pure CBD.
We use CBC quite regularly for our palliative care patients with nice results. At the end of the day, natural or not, it’s still a drug
WELL, MAYBE IT JUST ISN'T OUR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT LET'S SAY THE LADY FROM SAUDI ARABIA LEARNED TO DRIVE A CAR BEFORE WOMEN THERE WERE ALLOWED TO, SHE TRAVELED WITHOUT PERMISSION OF HER MALE SUPERVISOR AND SHE HAD SEX WITH HER GIRLFRIEND THOUGH SHE DIDN'T MARRY HER. IT STILL DOESN'T HARM ANYONE AND IS STILL PERFECTLY FINE IN MORE THAN A FEW PLACES IN THE WORLD, LUCKILY. SO WHAT IF MISSY ALSO HAD 351LBS OF OATS. THAT'S A HUGE LOT INDEED. WAS HER FRIEND HUNGRY. DID SHE WANT TO BAKE A GLUTEN FREE SPACE CAKE? IT IS A LOT BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WRONG.
OH BOY THESE CAPITALS ARE HURTING MY EYES. NOW HOW DO I TURN THIS OFF? OH, THERE IT IS, HERE GOES...
Ahhhh... much better now.
I'm merely pointing out that 350 lb of weed is immense. Like, over a 100 year personal supply, if the stuff didn't go bad (which... Unsurprisingly, it does).
And if you really buy the argument that it was for a friend in pain, let me know because I have a horse and 28.99mm crank to sell you.
Regular stretching and trips to the osteopath help manage it, but every so often it flares up and is properly debilitating. I don’t like the idea of constantly taking paracetamol/ibuprofen as I’m sure it can’t be good for your stomach/kidneys, so had been thinking about trying a more natural alternative ie. CBD
Fortunately I’ve also just moved to Canada from the UK so CBD is now a much more readily accessible option!
@drpepperrider2 - is there a particular type you went for? Like you I’m not a smoker/stoner and I haven’t really used supplements before, so it’s all still very new to me...
The one i tried is Free Solei and its carried in MTC oil.
Do your research, some scientifix papers are out there, and JRE just had a “pot debate” with two expert and they both agreed that CBD was of no harm and can do a lot of good.
“No”.
Stops reading
Fringe? I think it's time for a Pinkbike poll. I have a feeling mountain bikers are a bit higher on the "weed consumers per capita" scale than the general population.
Inside a racing\competition scenario.... doctor prescribed use only.
This way it's for a noted medial reason, rather than artificial enhancement (but yes, I also know you can get doctors that willingly bend rules).
Outside... what ever improves your quality of life.
Placebo or not, if you feel it benefits you then that's great.
If you're thinking of trying it, lack of actual clinical data is a worrying sign.
Don't fall for marketing BS to think you 'need' it, of course they'll tell you it solves the worlds problems and makes you better (**the secret is all they just want your money!).
No, CBD has no known psychoactive effects."
meh
Crunch the numbers and you find weed is a bigger issue, alcohol only appears worse due to higher population drinking.
I'm not concluding that the products are total bullshit because we just don't know. But at this point most if the marketing is complete bullshit.
So it seems like CBD is one of those things that probably works for a narrow range of problems but is snake oil for the rest and is being sold accordingly. Legalization is an important step to allowing more/better research though.
That said, gas station crap is mostly just that...crap. Make sure you know what you are getting. We don't buy CBD from the Quickie Mart around here.
It’s uo there with phenibut, “natural relaxation” but they all act on the same neurological pathways and what regulates up must regulate down when stopped, and down regulation ain’t no fun for nobody lol.
CBD isn't a panacea, and it doesn't work for everyone. But it works great for me; and I can't take Tylenol.
I feel a bit more relaxed also. So it works for me. Ymmv.
But, I can say in the EMS and medical world during surgeries there is a reduced efficacy of pain medication with people the regularly smoke weed. I’m not sure if it only correlates to THC or CBD, but the reduction is significant. People with broken bones or coming out of surgery have difficulty getting the pain relief they want. Not deterring people from making their own choice, but make it educated. If that risk doesn’t bother you, then by all means partake.
i do live in colorado though so follow your local laws.
CBD/THC or whatever could be the most powerful tool, however in case it is not allowed against professional athletes, compete without using it be disqualified. That's fair
I went from 20+ percocets, and 8+ oxy's a day down to 2 oxy's and 1 - 3 percs. Life is So much better now that I'm not a pill junkie. I can eat, sleep, no more ulcers, no more withdrawls, no more junkie mood swings, I could go on...
I love to smoke & love my edibles!
Lots of people with strong opinions either way? Textbook controversial.
1. remove the lid of your tupperware "coffee table"
2. take 2 rips from the 2liter diet cherry shasta cola g-bong setup thats starting to look like chocolate is growing on the inside
3. tell your roomate you thought that stinky nug was yours (plus you bough the grinder, didn't you?)
4. take him to taco bell to say you're sorry and bump some cypress hill along the way
If you want quality, tested CBD from an actual reputable processor, buy from www.thecbdistillery.com
No MLM, no reseller, no middleman, etc.
As a cannabis grower, I'd rather see more people consuming full spectrum cannabis oil, but a brand such as the above is what I would recommend for people wanting to go the "other" route.
No known fatal overdoses have ever been reported from CBD."
Or weed as far as I know. Unlike water, which can be fatal if consumed to excess.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5569602
www.instagram.com/p/Bsq2LQ2HyRZ
racerxonline.com/2019/02/15/ama-issues-statement-on-cbd-oil-sponsorship
although you can legally buy some strains that are 0% THC and 5-15% CBD.
FYI
As a regular user of CBD for 2 years now I know it works. I wouldn’t be riding the way I do without it. I get better sleep which means better recovery as well from efforts. Snake oil? Not at all. Will agree though, gotta go with brands like floud’s Or CW (the original), Floyd’s, AdventureCBD, and others that regularly test purity.
I recently finished and article where I interviewed former Bike Magazine publisher and former pro road/mountain cyclist Joe Parkin who now owns Boneshaker Cycles in BV, CO. Known Joe for a long time and even at 50 not any of us commenting on this article he couldn’t drink a beer and kick out asses into the ground. Interviewed him for the article knowing he wasn’t a guy who dug smoking pot, but was using Floyd’s of Leadville CBD.
So here is a guy who raced as a domestique workhorse in big EURO races once. Cut his teeth on Belgium’s brutal kernels race scene. Raced mountain bikes stateside. 30 years of racing with almost half as a pro. A certifiable badass. He started taking 50mg of Floyd’s at bedtime and in a few days his years of hard riding that took a toll on his riding weee gone and he’s riding hard again daily.
I could give you dozens of examples from first hand accounts of people from amateur to Olympic hopeful to pros using this stuff with fantastic results. I know people who’s kids wouldn’t be alive without it. Friend’s dad who has an MS and is stock I. A wheelchair in pain but CBD cured him. It’s legit.
Article above has moments of clarity mixed with misconceptions being labeled as time honored facts. Also misstates that CBD is legal only state by state when in fact thanks to the decriminalization of Hemp it’s legal in all 50. Technically was already, as I know there were zero issues for CW, Floyd’s AdventureCBD, and others shipping it anywhere in the country.
Btw full disclosure, I know employees/staff at all 3 of the above personally just to be up front. But I’ve tried their product and know all 3 test for purity for sure. I’ve known the brothers at adventurecbd.com the longest and have my own discount code, just use “Sevo” in the promo code spot at checkout to save 10%.
Good CBD is the key. Make sure whomever you buy from owns their own plant grow, does their own extraction, and does their own in house testing of every batch to ensure purity. Price isn’t always going to reflect quality and be keen on that.
My family, including my 11 year old son, and I are using CBD. I distribute a pure CBD oil and cream and I’ve have learned SO MUCH over the past several months directly from the Doctor and the lead scientist at my company who I have spoken to personally about our CBD products.
Some background on CBD….
CBD has been around for thousands of years. It was banned in the 1970s during the Nixon years. (They put it on the Schedule 1 right up there with Heroine and Cocaine. I’m guessing some big pharma was involved here…but we’ll never know.)
Every human (and animal) has an endocannabinoid system. The purpose of the ECS is to maintain a healthy balance between our brain and body.
CBD affects our endocannabinoid system, to help build a bridge between the body and mind. CBD may help with trouble concentrating, positive mental support, muscle discomfort, sleeping, mood, immune system health, join flexibility, healthy heart, relaxation, cardiovascular health.
So, what is CBD? It’s an acronym short for Cannabidiol. It a non-toxic, non-hallucinogenic supplement that benefits over 65 systems in the body.
CBD is found in the Marijuana plant and the Hemp Plant.
Marijuana also contains 30% THC (the psychoactive ingredient). Most CBD does contains THC – 0.3%.
The CBD product that I use and share is from HEMP and is THC free (non-detectable). I have a COA – Certificate of Analysis that validates this info. And our CBD is 90% CBD. With a Patent and liposome delivery. So if you take a drug test with a CBD product that has non-detectable THC…you will not fail.
Hope this info helps.