Commencal's New E-Bikes

Apr 11, 2017
by COMMENCAL BIKES & SKIS  
Commencal s New E-Bikes


Press Release

Since the beginning, we communicate on the true essence of a good mountain bike and its purpose. Almost 20 years later, we are starting a new chapter in Commencal's history while keeping in mind what is important for the riders that we are: we love to ride. That is how we developed the 'POWER' program.

We enter a new era: one of e-bikes, and one of Commencal power.

''I didn’t have any preconceptions about e-bikes before my first test. I was just very curious about them! Today, I can say that I don’t really understand all the haters; they must not like to ride their bikes! Who will complain about doubling the amount of runs without spending any more energy?'' - Léa G, Commencal


Commencal s New E-Bikes

The Meta Power and the Meta HT Power are not simple bikes designed around a motor, but a genuine Meta on which we integrate a compact, silent, powerful and lightweight system.

The battery is intelligently integrated. Removing, replacing and recharging the battery off the bike are basic demands. Creatively integrated into the frame, easy to disassemble, the Shimano battery currently gives the greatest range on the market (up to 100km in “Eco” mode with 800m of positive elevation).

The Meta Power and the Meta HT Power use cranksets with a specific e-mountain bike chainring. The diameter optimizes pedaling effectiveness, mud evacuation, suspension performance, gear ratio management and chain wear. The Meta Power and the Meta HT Power spec plus-size tires. It’s the ideal choice for enhanced grip, traction, and comfort!


Commencal s New E-Bikes


Commencal s New E-Bikes


Commencal s New E-Bikes


“Knowing the trails, having ridden them and raced them on my regular bike, riding them now on the Meta Power, the enjoyment has been multiplied! The endless climbs became easier, but the descents had little effect by any additional weight. The Meta Power really gave confidence and allowed me to ride faster (I think) than usual! In a nutshell, I’m already making space in my garage to welcome it very soon!” - Léa G, Commencal


Shimano E8000

On an e-bike, the frame and the motor are the heart of the bike. We have chosen to use the Shimano E8000 system, which gives many advantages. A compact motor: without a doubt, one of the key benefits of the E8000. Its compactness doesn’t affect the geometry compared to a classic mountain bike and gives a sensation that we did not think was possible from an e-bike. Excellent ergonomics: the shifter to switch modes is really intuitive. It facilitates the utilization of the different levels of assistance. The LCD color display is also well thought-out. It gives clear information in all weather conditions. Intuitive modes: an Eco mode for the longer rides, a versatile Trail mode offering extra assistance, and a Boost mode (up to 300% assistance) for riders in a hurry!


Commencal s New E-Bikes
Commencal s New E-Bikes


After-sales service

For several years, Commencal has been selling bikes online, direct to the consumer. From Shimano’s side, the E8000 is their absolute priority. Shimano provides a global after-sales service (one of the broadest in the industry) and will be able to give customers a fast and efficient service. The Shimano E-Tube app (which is downloadable on all smartphones, tablets and PC computers) gives the customer the ability to personalize and update their system settings through a Bluetooth connection. Commencal also put in place all the means to enquire, help and troubleshoot.

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102 Comments
  • 113 11
 I've seen the full-sus prototype in action a few months ago here in Finale. Three guys from Commencal were sharing this coil shocked e-bike and a couple of other "legit" prototypes. Well they were ripping down my local trails, and the guy who was riding the e-bike was having the exact same amount of fun than the other two, as far as I could see. I joined them for a while on a descent; from a distance (they were FAST and I kept losing them) I couldn't tell who was riding the e-bike and who was riding the DH bike.
No noise, no trail damage, no weird things happened.
At the bottom I had the chance to ride it for the classic " 60 seconds parking lot test ride", seemed fun to hop around, considering the weight.
My two cents: I think that e-bikes are just bikes. Do I need one now? No thanks. Will I end up riding one when I will be too old for riding a Bronson? Sure, beats watching TV or playing golf by a mile. Now, can we just turn the page and ride our bikes?
  • 44 8
 It's not the joy you can have riding that ever made me questioning E-Bikes, it's the effect they have and will have on our sport. In the Alps like in many other places we use trail networks that were built for hikers. Often, our presence is tolerated but actually often against the official rules. Well, how will twice as many runs, twice as much conflict and twice as much erosion affect that acceptance? And there's more, cause first it won't just be twice as much but even more bike traffic and second it shifts the image of MTBers from sportsman who work their way up up the hills to enjoy nature to fun-seekers who don't care about circumstances and consequences too much.
Would be a shame to see our sport being restricted to some forest roads, trail centers and bike parks because of that.
  • 10 4
 @MatthewCarpenter: valid point, however with all these bikes appealing to a new market it could mean the possibility of more trails opening up, that also means more for local businesses
  • 14 18
flag zede (Apr 11, 2017 at 23:05) (Below Threshold)
 I have seen people over 60 riding mountain bikes, skiing and so on. So clearly, if you use the "age excuse" you're a pussy. Now, some people age faster than others, so If you really feel old, and you don't feel strong enough to ride, maybe e-bike is not the solution: if you're not strong enough to pedal, you're not strong enough to crash. Now I have to be honest, I have seen e-bikes on fire roads, but most of them are use as a city bike, even though they have 160mm of travel, 180mm disc and so on...
  • 5 1
 @MatthewCarpenter:
Those funseekers are now also there. They just use a shuttle bus. Maybe they'll start using e-bikes instead, but I don't think it will make that much difference for the image of mountainbikers.
  • 15 4
 The bigger problem i see on e-bikes is that they are promoted to have uphill fun on trails by some companies. Trails should be ridden in just one direction. I'm just waiting for the first frontal crash into an e-biker who rides one of my hometrails in the (in my opinion) wrong way.
  • 5 2
 @Mettwurst82: what s wrong with riding uphill on trails ? It's more fun than fire roads and you don't need to have an e-bike to have fun uphill. When a trail is not steep or too technical it's fun to ride it up
  • 2 1
 dude you live in Italy! the best place for physical activities. If you get too old riding normal mtb in Italy, something went wrong.
  • 2 0
 @zede: Yes, when a trail is not steep as you say... On the trails that i mean, nobody would ride them uphill with a standard mountainbike, but with an e-bike it could make fun. But the steeper, the bigger the problem with two way traffic.
  • 3 2
 I honestly don't understand everyone's beef with them. If the cycling industry one day decided to immediately cease production of everything except say 160mm full suspension bikes. The industry would collapse and we would have nothing. The industry is held up by road bikes but it gets a serious boost from gimmicks like e-bikes that make our very exclusive sport more accessible to outsiders. I'm not saying that they're a good or a bad thing but as far as I'm concerned every e-bike Commencal sell is more revenue that they can use to help keep their low profit margin downhill and all mountain bikes rolling out of the factory.
  • 4 2
 @sewer-rat: yeah, all that space we have for new trails. Meanwhile Surrey Hills becomes more over ridden and local conflict increases. Sorry to be sarcastic but ffs.
  • 2 3
 @zede: seriously, where's my gun....
  • 2 0
 @Bustacrimes: whaaat
  • 2 1
 @Bustacrimes: what about new bike parks springing up in Wales ? The scene is getting massive with or without ebikes , some people that used to play football , golf, ride motorcycles are crossing over and investing money into high end bikes, don't believe me then go to BPW and count the amount of carbon Santa Cruz going down the trails. Ebikes just appeal to a wider audience, you can moan about em and fair enough regarding conflicts, we also have conflicts with the FC at our local trails but Ebikes aren't part of it, more people building stupid stuff and dropping litter, I know as I'm one of the builders - and yes one of my many bikes is an Ebike. In short don't single out something that's just began as impacting your access when the riders until now on normal bikes have pretty much sowed the seed for issues so far
  • 1 1
 @cvoc: well, you might be right, I've just been in Graubünden and on two days we saved ourselves some of the uphill meters via Gondola and Postbus. That way, there's at least a benefit for the local economy, but your point is valid.
  • 3 0
 @MatthewCarpenter: ebikes will not erode trails any more than a regular bike will. From a recent study "the soil impacts observed in this study were not greatly different from those of mountain bikes, and were much less than those associated with motorcycle use." - www.imba.com/news/eMTB-early-study-results
  • 1 3
 @zede: you ride uphill on trails. That's a massive dick move. f*ck you if you can't see the conflict.
  • 2 1
 @sewer-rat: sorry mate, but you lost me when you started on about rich kids with Santa Cruz bikes...and ex golfers, and ex football fans. I've been riding for many years and all of those people are a problem. And the ebike trying to gain credibility by attaching itsl f to Mtb is another nail in the coffin. Your right, idiots cause problems. Hence the attitude towards rich riders who turn up in their Audi with the four cock rings on the front and ride and drop litter and do zero trail maintenance. And then strava it and tell their other noob dick mates. And ride up land owners drive ways in Surrey then push off at the bloke who has basically given permission for his land to be an unofficial bike park. These people may ride Mtb, but their not good for the sport.

BPW flourishing is not an indicator of Mtb being in a healthy state of affairs. I ride every day I get chance. The nearest bike park is three hours minimum.
  • 1 1
 @Bustacrimes: lol, you sound like some kind of angry chicken that has a crank stuck up the butt. So why do chicken hate riding uphill on trails? is it because they use a shuttle?
  • 2 0
 @zede: some trails are dangerous to ride uphill because of getting in the way on a jump line. and if going uphill is technical then I like it. earn your wings is as valid as if a trail is for dh only. just ride the chicken line uphill and everything will be fine
  • 1 0
 I have recently sold my Reign to purchase a Lapierre overvolt and I have no regrets. I'm 38 and in good physical condition. My reason for changing was because I ride to have fun and most of the days I don't have more thant 1-1.5h to ride. With the ebike do at least double distance, a lot more trails going down, more fun.... I am very happy with my decision, now i even ride more days and getting fitter and better. I basically don't need to prove to myself that i can go up the local hill, I know i can do it with no problem, just want to get there faster and start going down.
  • 1 0
 @donpinpon29: how can you ride a jump line uphill? haha. my point was more that trails that are fun to ride uphill aren't so fun downhill
  • 1 2
 @zede: "lol". That makes you sound like a teenage girl on FB. Are you gonna tell me "whatevs" and "yolo" next?

Glad you've found humour in a regular issue for genuine Mtb riders. It does make me wonder why you're even here though....
  • 1 0
 @Bustacrimes: whatevs dude, your PMSing and I can't help
  • 1 0
 @zede: Get over yourself, mountain biking is fun, and when you get to the age when you realize that you need the help of a e-bike to continue riding, I doubt that you will just lay down and die. Stop the EGO comments and get back to the reason we all ride, for the fun of it!
  • 1 0
 @earthborn: I ride both, but being in my 60"s now, I mostly ride my E-bike, so I can keep up with my friends. I doubt that the people that are saying bad things about e-bike have thrown a leg over, and even tried one.
  • 36 3
 "It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle." ~ Ernest Hemingway
  • 1 0
 Spot on! Ernest FTW
  • 1 0
 "....and a boost mode, for riders in a hurry". Wait until I patent my 'super boost full throttle' mode - we'll all be hitting 40mph up hills and roosting flat corners so get out of the way! Joking aside, when I'm old and decrepit I'll probably be riding one.
  • 1 0
 ernest huckingway
  • 48 16
 Sorry Commencal... I trusted you!...
  • 17 17
 Now we will see Yoann with the hand of Max Commencal in his ass, like a puppet, advertising the new mopeds... shit, no please.
  • 5 1
 No surprise here, they have been working for many years on e-bike. Max Commencal was already using one prototype two years ago at the rock d'azur.
  • 17 1
 And all those who believed Commençal didn't make carbon frames for ecological reason will be surprised by the move to ebikes. I guess the argument will be "reduce shuttles and lifts". Yeah, right.
  • 3 1
 @EnduroManiac: I don't like commencal just because of their marketing bs.
  • 4 1
 @Mac-Aravan: So true. To all of those who are surprised by this move, why would you think that a European brand would not want to be a part of the e-bike phenomenon that is sweeping across Europe with double digit growth? As a business move, it makes complete sense.

What many people are failing to grasp is that e-bikes help non-bikers more easily access the other sports they want to do. Two examples: ski touring and rock climbing. My friend owns a bike shop who is selling e-bikes like crazy to ski tourers needing to travel across lots of dirt/dirt roads to finally access the snow and boulderers who don't want to waste their energy hauling crash pads far to the spot. E-bikes have a far broader appeal than many of you are noticing. Their usage in the Alps is very, very utilitarian and practical.
  • 3 0
 @ka-brap: I have to admit i did not think of this use before, but I think in that case that won't annoy anyone right ? The problem is people riding e-bikes on single tracks not on fire roads
  • 3 3
 @ka-brap: hahah double digit growth. Absolute bollocks. I work in the trade and the ebike may be selling, but it's not e mtb and pretending otherwise is disengenious.

And access for that "disabled market" I keep hearing about is also bollocks. Be honest...you work in the trade and ride an ebike.

This is Pinkbike, not f*cking cycling weekly, I couldn't give a monkeys uncle about what some turd in flat land wants to ride to work.

Stop attaching ebikes to mountainbiking......it's a very different thing and not appealing for the majority of existing people riding an Mtb.
  • 3 0
 @Bustacrimes: You are clearly out of touch with how things are going in the Alps (not sure where you are located, but "bollocks" suggests the UK?). Double digit growth refers to growth at 10% or higher, which it is growing at. It may not be in your particular neck of the woods, but rest assured it is that way in many places. If you think this doesn't appeal to many people living in the Alps where the valleys are flat and climbs shoot straight up, then you don't understand the market in the Alps. But glad you speak for the majority of existing people riding a mountain bike though.
  • 1 6
flag Bustacrimes (Apr 13, 2017 at 7:33) (Below Threshold)
 @ka-brap: stop trying to be f*cking clever, cause you aren't. People riding bikes in the alps have been doing that for years. If the lazy f*ckers are too posh to pedal then get fit. Don't put a f*cking cheat device on your bike and tell me I am out of touch. f*cking noobs like you are killing the sport. Pretending we need the likes of ebikers and that if we don't see the benefits we're out of touch is a bullshit excuse for lazy people who do nothing for the Mtb sport. Ride them on the road, to and from work. Couldn't give a monkeys.
  • 5 0
 @Bustacrimes: Hahahaha you clearly do give a monkeys, you are incredibly butt hurt over this topic. FWIW, all of the bikes in my quiver are human, pedal powered. I'm just not that much of douche canoe to dictate to other people how they should enjoy their cycling experience. Ride the bike you want to ride and stop telling people how you think they should.
  • 1 0
 @ka-brap: you will see fat-ebikes carrying surfboards through the beach looking for the perfect everchanging sandbars at hossegor. try that walking, driving, etc... best way to score good waves all day long. best application I have seen so far for this catastrophe for the mtb esence
  • 1 1
 @ka-brap: You can pretend to take some sort of moral high ground, but the minute you spout bike industry marketing BS about ebikes don't be surprised if someone mocks you for it. If you had EVER done trail maintenance or had to fight for trail access you wouldn't be saying it.

So say what you want......it just shows how little you care about the future of Mtb.
  • 2 0
 @Bustacrimes: How's the view from your prejudiced high horse? Claiming you know so much about me and you couldn't be further from the truth. In the span of 3 comments, you've done this 3 times. Well done. One thing you should learn is how to identify problems and their causes. Your actual problem is with how messed up your land usage laws are. Maybe you should try directing your frustration there?

The future of mountain biking in my area is fine because the laws aren't stupid and people assume responsibility for their own actions.
  • 15 1
 The only thing I see is it looks like they have room for a gear box.
  • 1 0
 Sure the Next steep un a cuple of years
  • 13 3
 The problem with e-bikes is that it is harder to distinguish a legal 250W pedelec from an illegal 0.5k/1k/2kW motorcycle than to distinguish a bike from a pedelec. Now everyone has seen what happens to a trail that suddenly has an open access road for shuttling. Now imagine every trail you know seeing as much traffic as the shuttleable trail in your area. This is what the future holds, and illegal e-shuttling with motorbikes looking like pedelecs will be a real threat to mtb access
  • 5 0
 If the price ever comes down..... bad news.
  • 5 0
 Yep, the VERY legitimate main concern of riders who know what a hard time we've had over the years to get official trails, permission to build an maintain organise clubs, committee's, raise funds an fit in with other wilderness users. An now, board room bike manufacturers with shareholders to keep happy are counting the money while mtb trails could face a questionable future..... The bike industry REALLY doesn't help itself sometimes
  • 3 2
 @nojzilla: great comment. Good to see that some people can see the real issues.
  • 11 2
 E-bike eh but gimme that coil for my Meta 4.2
  • 15 6
 I just threw up in my mouth...and on the floor...
  • 14 8
 Commencal... no carbon, but ebikes? Can't get on board with this one.
  • 3 0
 The world is too much about marketing at the moment... But we are clever and the truth is becoming more and more important to be successful.
  • 1 0
 @Brightside: Sorry buds, the truth is that e-bikes are the biggest growing segment in Europe right now, and anyone wanting to be successful can't ignore market trends like that. Suck it up, because soon enough everyone will have e-bikes in their line up.

www.bike-eu.com/sales-trends/nieuws/2016/5/e-bike-sales-shows-double-digit-growth-in-main-markets-10126236
  • 1 0
 @ScandiumRider: Just because sales are growing fast you still have to realize that overall sales a piddly compared to real bikes. And no never will EVERYONE have an ebike in their line up. Thats aa rediculous of a statement as saying everyone will have a downhill bike. Not everyone needs or wants an ebike.
  • 1 0
 @inverted180: 31.7 million ebikes sold in 2014 and that's projected to grow to over 40 million units by 2023. Doesn't seem too piddly to me.

www.statista.com/statistics/255653/worldwide-sales-of-electric-bicycles

[EDIT]: and that's a "proper" ebike, as in pedal assist only, 25kph top speed motor assist.
  • 1 0
 @ScandiumRider: yes but almost all of those sales appear to be in Asia where surely they are NOT buying quality mountain bike style e-bikes. More like electric mo-peds.
  • 1 0
 @ScandiumRider: ://www.statista.com/statistics/255658/worldwide-sales-of-electric-bicycles-by-region/
  • 1 0
 @inverted180: I do agree that they are likely not all high end MTB or anything, but they are ebikes and not mo-peds according to the stats website (pedal assist vs throttle).

With your stat link, I'm betting the market is pretty saturated in Asia right now with ebikes. Where do you think the majority of the projected 10 million additional units are going to be sold? Likely pretty evenly divided between North America and Europe. If you're a manufacturer interested in making money, you simply can't ignore a potential market segment like that.
  • 1 0
 @inverted180: Have you tried one, I only ask because I hated them until I TRIED ONE. Now I ride one. To be a hater makes no sense unless you have taken one on a normal ride of yours. So smile and go ride one and see.
  • 9 3
 www.ktmfreeride-e.com/en

Best e-bike there is.
  • 2 0
 @Commencal: why don't you just strap the motor, put pinion gearbox instead of it and you have a perfect lunch/tool box instead of batery... Build it please, just for the haters. hahaha
  • 1 0
 I live in the western U.S.(Nevada/Eastern California) and I find plenty of trails to ride where I seldom see anyone. A lot are jeep roads and logging roads but they are fine to ride. I ride both up and down and and enjoy both. I ride a Scott Genius 720 carbon and it is a nice ride. I am turning 80 next year and I am thinking of purchasing an e-bike. Not because I can't peddle anymore but because I would really like to cover a lot more territory. I won't quit riding my Scott but I want the option of greater distance......we have a lot of space here. Mountain e-bikes are just coming here and I would like some advice on which are the best. I have ridden the Specialized Levo Comp and thought that was nice. I spend the winter in Palm Springs and ride the desert...so I need a wider tire to deal with the sand and gravel stuff. I would appreciate any info/opinions from some experience riders on what I might look at.
thanks
byron
  • 6 5
 I like the idea of being able to do my 30mile off road commute easily on a bike. I can do it on my normal bike but it takes 2 hours each way going at a good pace. Trouble is their top speed is 20kph I think, which isn't any better, but at least I won't be so tired for the journey home!
  • 3 0
 A regular pedal assisted bike has support up to 25km/h (16mph). Not sure about the UK, but in The Netherlands these follow the same regulations as regular bicycles. So it will still take you two hours, but at least you might have some juice left (in your body) when you're back home to get a proper training in. There is a downside to doing that much steady endurance riding (that is, two times two hours mid intensity) every day. If you want to be quicker, there are bikes that assist you up to speeds of 45km/h (28mph) but these follow more strict regulations. People traveling the kind of distance you mention typically go for that. Or a racebike if they don't have to carry much stuff and have the possibility to change at work (and actually view it as a training). Or one of these cigar shaped closed recumbents. These are mighty quick and may set you back the same kind of money as a high speed electric bike. When I was studying, all my aerodynamics professors were on recumbent bikes. They just couldn't get over how efficient this means of transport is. But you don't want to take these to busy city traffic and I heard recumbents are awkward for climbing too. So it depends on where you ride.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: I used to commute 12 miles each way to work most days, I've now moved 30 miles from work which I just don't have time to ride (and its a bit far) but an e-road bike that can help me do 30miles in an hour is still going to be a good workout. So what e-assist road bike can do 28mph? or can recumbents do 30mph?
  • 1 0
 @graeme187: These cigar shaped recumbents are mighty quick but not agile so whether you can reach your desired speed depends on the traffic and where you ride. It seems to me that these are noisy too, having your ears just at the height of the monocoque shell. Haven't ridden these though. I think the Germans are actually a bit ahead of us Dutchmen with the very fast e-bikes simply because they travel bigger distances and have more hilly terrain. The high speed brand I see here most is Riese und Muller (www.r-m.de/en-gb). Stable bikes with some high speed options, even high speed cargo bikes. Because of the central and low motor and battery, handling is pretty good. My girlfriend has got a Qwic RD9s (if I recall correctly) which officially isn't a high speed pedelec. Technically it is up to it (up to 40km/h, not 45) but Qwic decided not to bother with the certifications. It is just a matter of adjustment in the computer though. Downside is that both battery and motor are in the rear so handling suffers a bit compared to the Riese und Muller offering. I haven't ridden Stromer. These have the battery central and the motor in the rear so you'll probably get handling that's in between the other two. I've got to mention that I've only taken these on short sections of test rides as I wasn't looking for a bike like that. We both thought the R&M is simply the best bike but my girlfriend also wants to use the bike to shuttle the kids and the R&M wasn't certified to do that. But if you want the bike just for yourself, I'd say go with that. I don't know what model we tried exactly. It had a NuVinci geared hub, Bosch motor, Suntour Axion forks and Deore XT brakes if I recall correctly. Quality stuff.

Next week we'll leave to Switzerland for a week and take the bikes along. Me on the heavy (unassisted) Batavus Blockbuster with 7sp Nexus hub, she on the Qwic with 9sp Deore gearing (and pedal assist). We'll take the kids on our bikes and see how it goes. Not into the big mountains though. She's got Magura MT4 disc brakes, but I've got roller brakes. I don't want these to fail when rolling down the mountain Wink .
  • 3 1
 @vinay: this isn't cycling weekly. This a mountainbike forum, existing and a thriving for people riding mountainbike. Not wannabe motorbikers..
  • 2 0
 @Bustacrimes: People asked, I answered. If that bothers you, look elsewhere.
  • 1 3
 @vinay: yeah, this used to be a mountainbike forum. Now I have twats like you telling me about motors and outputs. f*ck you anf the future you are trying to push on Mtb.
  • 2 0
 @Bustacrimes: Not sure why you're making it so hard for yourself. It was clear from the title of the article what you were getting. And you clearly don't like mountainbikes with pedal assist. Then why did you click on the article? At the end of the day it is PB who's responsible for their content (or at least which articles make it to the website).

But so much for the article, that is not what this thread is about. Here is someone asking advice how to cycle to work and back and I'm giving some advice there. That's all. It has nothing to do with mountainbikes at all. If someone needs advice on how to fix their car, grow herbs or how to make a pancake, if I can help I do. But really if I'm commenting on mountainbikes I'm commenting on mountainbikes. If I'm helping someone out on how to ride to work I'm doing that. It is different stuff but then again people do different stuff in their lives. I'm just honestly surprised you scroll all the way down to my response to someone elses question to then come moaning that I'm telling you stuff you didn't ask for.
  • 1 1
 @vinay: by your own admission you've sidetracked the thread. My argument about ebikes is more relevant than the commuting advice your giving out. This isn't Road cc, Cycling Tips or any other roadie magazine.

By all means DM some guy and chat about the latest gravel bike all you want.

I personally don't think PB should be a "safe place" for ebike users. DIRT seem to be pitching for that sector of the market. I personally hate the idea of ebikes on trails as it will create further access issues and increased trail damage. If you don't share that view that's fine.
  • 9 6
 if that's going to be the standard.......good bye tolerated trailnetworks :-(
bad move commencal
  • 7 2
 "waste of good parts"
  • 5 0
 #keepitreal
  • 1 1
 I always liked the idea of a bicycle. Efficient machine which transforms your energy into a motion. For sure, you need energy to make and construct one, but then it's ecological, green and free way of transport and fun. If you add any kind of motor, the true idea and spirit of a bicycle is gone. I can live with it, it's just a reflection of the state of our society. Lazyness, easy fun, pruduction, consuption etc. What people should realise is that most of the energy used for running e-bikes comes from coal burning. In current period of environmental crisis, is this really the direction we should pass on future generations?
  • 2 1
 Should have seen all the eye rolls I was getting from my ride group at the end of every climb where I came in last, muttering "e-bike" lol
  • 6 4
 I didn't see this coming from Commencal, I thought they were more on the pure side
  • 4 2
 Your definition of "pure" is not their definition of "pure". E-bikes are huge in Europe and Commencal is a European brand so of course they are going to go down this road. It would be business suicide for them not to.
  • 2 0
 Coil on a non-dh / freeride bike? I'm in!
  • 2 3
 I'd love to have a E-road bike with flat bars and fat tyres. Something I can pedal up to 60km/h on flat and in this way cover double the distance. 150km in 2,5h of my hilly terrain with plenty of turns, mhwaaa.
  • 10 0
 Ha! It's called a Cbr600 ;-)
  • 4 1
 no.
  • 4 6
 Hahaha. They went direct because they couldn't get a dealer network as the bikes are all a bit meh.

Now they're putting another nail in their coffin with a high profile ebike.

Please, just disappear under a rock and die. Take all the other big brands who thought f*cking over dealer and consumers was all good when they were doing okay. Now they aren't so profitable they're scratching around for ideas other than going direct and being CHEAP. . And the funniest thing....the dealers who would have told them what was actually going on "at the coal face" wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire now.
  • 7 6
 F#ck !! It's not 1st April !!!...
  • 2 2
 Fear of ebikes is bringing out the stupidity in these comments by people have most likely never been on an ebike.
  • 1 0
 Exactly, I agree 100%
  • 6 4
 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • 5 4
 Own up, what does this 'bike' weigh ? 48 lbs ?
  • 3 1
 These look so fun!
  • 1 1
 Absolutely !!
  • 1 0
 Oh no Frown
  • 3 3
 holy s&$t! they are comming!
  • 6 7
 I don't hate on them, they just butt ugly.
  • 1 2
 I want to see a head to head with a old solex bike lol Fwd ftw
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