Cotic have launched a brand new model, the Jeht. The 140mm travel trail bike is the brand's "genre-defying, do everything, steel full-suspension" rig. According to Cotic, the bike was designed to sit in that 'Goldilocks' spot where riders who wanted a trail bike with an all-around sensibility also got great climbing and an easy-to-handle chassis. The Jeht has a little more travel than an aggressive XC bike but isn't a full-on enduro bike. It's made to be lively, engaging, supportive, & rewarding.
SuspensionThe Jeht utilizes Cotic's signature Drop-Link suspension platform, with a new longer link layout and kinematic. This allowed them to improve the seat tube packaging over the previous 29'er Drop-Link bikes, adding 20mm of seatpost insertion compared to a FlareMAX on all sizes. Using OneUp Components' dropper post, Cotic claim the majority of riders will be able to get at least a 150mm drop seatpost on all sizes of the Jeht.
With a new kinematic, the base tune on the Cane Creek or RockShox rear shock also changes. The Jeht uses two volume spacers to give what Cotic call a lively and feedback-rich ride. It also allows riders looking for more comfort the ability to take a spacer out to soften the edge. Heavier riders can also drop spacers to combat the extra ramp up that higher pressures give the spring curve. Cotic wanted to give more options for every rider to get their ideal ride feel.
GeometryThe bike uses a 150mm fork as standard, which gives it a 64.5-degree head angle. For riders looking to have a sharper ride a 140mm fork will steepen the head angle to 65-degrees. The seat angle is 75.8-degrees at a 720mm saddle height, and 75.5 at 815mm. The new seat tube arrangement brings minimal seat angle change regardless of leg length.
Cotic's "Longshot" geometry brings a reach that ranges from 444mm to 515mm, designed around running a 35mm stem for whatever size bike someone chooses. Seat tubes are cut low, so most riders can choose between a couple of sizes to suit their needs and local trail conditions.
Builds and SpecWhile the series production Jeht is produced in Taiwan, Cotic know some customers love the idea of a UK made frame. Therefore, the Jeht is releasing with a 'Launch Edition' of no more than 30 UK frames. These frames are available now in the Afterburner or Matte Teal colors with a Cane Creek DB Air IL or Kitsuma for shock options. Prices start at £2,199 for the frame in IL Air. Series production frames from Taiwan will arrive mid-February 2021 in Mercury Rave and Matte Blue Steel colors, starting at £1,799 with a RockShox Deluxe Select Plus shock.
There will be Cotic's standard Silver, Gold, and Platinum build options, but there will be some changes and delays on certain options due to parts availability.
Silver builds are based on Shimano SLX or 2020 SRAM GX Eagle and are available now with an X-Fusion Trace 36 HLR fork, Cane Creek Air IL shock, and Superstar/WTB wheels for £3,699. In mid-February, these builds will switch to SLX only with RockShox Revelation/Deluxe Select Plus suspension and Shimano wheels, which brings the price down to £3,499. A Taiwan made frame further drops the price by £300.
Gold builds are available with SRAM GX Eagle Lunar, or Shimano Deore XT, with Cane Creek's HELM and DB Air IL suspension, HUNT wheels, and WTB tires. This build is £4,649 with the UK made frame or £300 less for the Taiwan frame.
Platinum builds are top of the line, with SRAM X01 Eagle, Cane Creek eeWings, HELM fork, and Kitsuma shock (riders can choose to have a RockShox Pike Ultimate instead for no upcharge), Hope stem, Burgtec bar, and more for £6,499 or £6,199 with the non-UK frame.
All bikes are assembled to order in the UK, and there are options within the stock builds for riders to choose from. Cotic have a configurator on their site to assist with builds. All options and complete bikes are available to reserve now, with the first UK frames and bikes delivered before Christmas (depending on parts availability).
For more information, visit
www.cotic.co.uk
Can't believe it's taken the bike industry this long.
Have these people no shame?
If so, that's either some honesty I very much appreciate, or some meta-marketing that I can on some level also appreciate
Downtime Podcast Mixed Wheel Size
I put the 120mm 29er fork on our Rocket 27.5 enduro bike to replace the 160mm 27.5 fork because that was the only way to maintain the geometry. 29er forks are 20mm longerthan 27.5 forks, but the front axle is also nearly 20mm higher withthe 29er front wheel, hence needing to lose 40mm off the travel to maintain geometry. I think people looking to convert a 27.5 bike sometimes forget that. Was an interesting test.
Cave: https://www.pinkbike.com/video/527885/
Woods: https://www.pinkbike.com/video/527886/
Looks great - love that colour.
So how does the frame weight compare to the FlareMax? (you knew someone was gonna ask this!)
On modern bikes with modern geo and susp. components, with 140mm, you can go a looong way into the big mountains/woods.
Exactly what I'm looking for. Fanced the flaremax but wanted a little more travel.
Steel Frame?
A name that seems to be making fun of people with Boston accents (as in "Like a retahhhd, I crashed my cahhhr into a jeht neahhhr hahhhvahhrd yahhhd")?
Take my money already.
Cotic x Restrap Under Shock Bag
It seems a stupid question but honestly I wouldn’t buy a bike now I can’t put a 750ml in the frame
But time for a upgrade. These things aren't cheap so I've been putting it off .
The mercury on the Fare 132 max looks great. So I'm not sure. (Please help me decide) any other images of the mercury?
But I could do with a new bike now.
I'm worried about selling out. If I bought one this weekend. I can speak with you or your team and change the details etc
If so what package/frame best to book?
I'm 6'2 with long torso and shortish legs , you mentioned the XL would be the best fit for me in the past, is this still the case?
Cheers
Ed
I find the large is plenty bike for me. Lots of room for a long dropper and it definitely isn't cramped reach wise - if anything I probably need to clip my bars down 20mm.
I come from a BMX/hardtail background from around the mid 2000s and everything back then was cramped by comparison. So, that's maybe why I felt more comfortable on the large, despite being at the top end of the height range.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you come from small flicky bikes, then the large is probably plenty bike. However if you started riding bikes in the middle of the 2010s and all you know is long, slack and low, then the XL might be better for you.
Hope that's at least a little helpful.
Thanks for engaging with the community!
I suppose you’re right about short chainstays making it easier to fit big wheels, but that’s laziness on the design side.
Cotic bikes look good except for those long chainstays, anything over 440mm in a size large is not worthy, esp on a short travel bike.
These things are so hard to kill... No reason to change.
My brain is thinking......... but my legs and my balls... not the same affair. :-/
Best bike I've ever owned! @cotic-bikes
(I ride almost every day, roughly 10-15hours / week on average)
Looks like the front triangle is mostly Reynolds 853 and the rear triangle is 6066-T6 aluminium.
Cotic - We Use Steel For Performance
Rocket Mercury
singletrackworld.com/2014/04/cotic-goes-27-5-but-stays-26in-too
Size large and up long front center bikes need 450ish chainstays to have front wheel traction.
It really leaves a pretty small pool of riders to complain about this issue.
Could you imagine if a new CRF450 was sold with a CR80 swingarm? That's what we do in biking, and sell it as a plus!
And frankly, in regards to PB reviews, I don't see enough mention of handling balance and traction in the reviews around here. They could do better in this regard.
Haven't dove into the math real deep, but if you read the timed EnduroMag bike tests, even with some wildly different geos, the bikes with cs/ wb in the mid 35.x % range all have the fastest times even with many other differences. However the models with cs/ wb in the 34% range every tester says things like: hard to get the bike to finish the turn or requires highly active riding style, and clocked slower times. All code words for 'poor front traction due to poor chassis balance'.
Heck even the medium SB150 had the fastest time whereas the large version of the exact same bike was much slower. My opinion is that the L SB150 has the same CS length as the M, and as such the L has poor balance.
A guys got to try right.
If lockdown easies, have you got any to demo in XL?
If you do I'll be there right away.
My wallet is itching for one of those.
Not so sure about the builds. A Revelation, really? Why would anyone want that?
Bike weights? 14-15.5kg depending on spec, tyre choice, etc, etc.
Totally whacked.
Help me out a bit here, and I would love to support your product as its currently cost prohibited. What does it mean for a bike shop employee to ride your bike? well it generates interest and some hype. I have be lucky enough to get EP's over the year, and each time its lead to me selling a couple extra bikes through the shop because I've convinced friends and been the point of contact for new customers as they walk in the door when they ask about niche brands etc. One summer all our staff wanted to buy Orange bikes, they allowed us to do an EP. We all bought 223's and Patriot's.. Then within our local community ended up selling 4 Misisles, 2 Subzeros, P7's... we generated a stir and helped establish Orange with the GTA and made some sales along the way...
Wish you could help me out! cheers
Frog talk.
What colour do you think looks best in person.
I reckon the mercury will look great.
(What do you think?) It's coming in In when in Feb?
Is the afterburn black with the afterburn colour? If I ordered that when would it be ready?
Cheers
Ed
Any Launch Edition frames/bikes should be delivered by christmas at the latest if everything goes smoothly. Series production should arrive mid-feb, again assuming things go as currently predicted.
But time for a upgrade. These things aren't cheap so I've been putting it off .
The mercury on the Fare 132 max looks great. So I'm not sure. (Please help me decide) any other images of the mercury?
But I could do with a new bike now.
I'm worried about selling out. If I bought one this weekend. I can speak with you or your team and change the details etc
If so what package/frame best to book?
I'm 6'2 with long torso and shortish legs , you mentioned the XL would be the best fit for me in the past, is this still the case?
Cheers
Ed
I'm interested in the Jeht but as a heavier mtber 95kg would the frame be too flexy?
I've heard that the steel frames are grate for the lighter riders but less for the heavier ones?
Cheers
"It shouldn't be a problem" doesn't inspired me in confidence!
I'd prefer a response , like the XL frame would plenty stiff enough and be perfect for your weight.
I like the company and bike . I'm tempted but
Thanks for your help
Thanks Cotic for your help and time.
Fantastic brand
Cheers