CR1 Engineering Boxxer Cartridge Review

Jul 21, 2010
by Mike Levy  
CR1 Engineering brings a level of suspension performance that is hard to come by in the mountain bike world. Not only do they offer full custom tuning for rear shocks, but they also have fully sealed fork cartridges to fit both Boxxer's and Marzocchi 888 forks. Inside you can read about how the CR1 Boxxer cartridge performed for us over the last eight months that we've been using it and you'll also find a great riding video as well.

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CR1 Engineering Boxxer Cartridge


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CR1 Engineering offers many different services, from thorough rebuilds for shocks and forks, to custom tuning if you know exactly what you are looking for. They also provide their fully custom Factory Race System tuning which replaces all of the stock internals of your shock with their own CNC'd and anodized parts. This includes CR1's custom piston, seal head, needle valve, and valve seat, not to mention a shim stack layout that is tailored to you instead of a generic off the shelf tune. Just like their other services, the Factory Race System can be added to nearly any shock on the market today. Perhaps the most interesting upgrade that they offer though are their CR1 fork cartridges. These are available to fit both the '02-'10 RockShox Boxxer chassis, as well as '04-'07 Marzocchi forks, and they completely replace either fork's damping internals. I've been able to put a lot of time on their Boxxer cartridge and you can read about my feelings on it below.


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Inside the CR1 Boxxer cartridge


The CR1 Engineering Boxxer cartridge is a sealed unit that completely separates damping oil from lubrication oil, which can present a number of advantages over an open bath system. While suspension theory can be argued about for countless hours, it is generally agreed upon that consistency over extended rough terrain and long term reliability is increased when the fork's damping oil is kept independent from lubrication duties. Another advantage of the CR1 cartridge being sealed is that it makes it infinitely easier to do a simple service as you can remove your fork's lowers for a proper cleaning without having to do a complete rebuild of the damping unit.


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The quality of the parts that make up the CR1 cartridge is impressive


If you were to take the CR1 Engineering cartridge apart, which is possible because it is completely user serviceable, you'd find that it's internal parts are either CNC'd and anodized aluminum to prevent breakdown and oil contamination over time, or stainless steel. What you won't find though are any plastic parts or unproven designs because the CR1 cartridge is based off of proven motocross technology. There are two anodized high flow pistons, one for compression and one for rebound duties, that each use CR1's one piece glide rings and are custom shimmed to the riders needs. This is the same basic system that you'd find inside a top end motocross fork, just scaled down. There is a reason that much more demanding sports still use proven flexible steel shims to control damping, there is nothing better for the job, and while mountain bike suspension has progressed a lot in the last few years towards what works best, I've yet to see anything that comes close to CR1's quality and finishing detail.


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CR1's hydraulic bottoming cone


CR1 also incorporates a hydraulic bottoming cone into the cartridge's lower seal head that ramps up the force needed to bottom the fork in the very last bits of it's travel. Also common on up-scale motocross suspension, the bottoming cone uses oil pressure to slow down the fork's stroke as it enters the oil filled bottoming cup. No cheesy rubber bumpers that can and will break down over time, just proven technology. The cone itself is held in place with a removable C-clip that lets the user install a larger unit for more progressive resistance, or a smaller unit for more linear ending stroke. External adjustments are as simple as you can get: a rebound dial can be found at the bottom of the fork leg and a compression adjuster at the top. There are 40 clicks of adjustment for both.


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The blue aluminum adjuster atop the fork leg adjusts compression



CR1 Engineering Boxxer Cartridge details

  • Nitrogen charged
  • Sealed cartridge completely separate from lubrication oil
  • Integrated hydraulic bottoming cone
  • 100% aluminum and stainless steel materials
  • All internal parts are hard anodized
  • Coil or air sprung option
  • User serviceable and easily custom tuned
  • Manufactured in the U.S.A.
  • MSRP $599.99 USD for cartridge alone
  • MSRP $999.99 USD for Boxxer fork including cartridge


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The large anodized CNC'd aluminum at the bottom of the fork adjusts rebound speed


While the quality of the CR1 unit simply blows away anything else I've seen in the bicycle world, their ability to fully custom valve the cartridge has to be the biggest advantage. Off the shelf suspension has to be built to handle everything from a skinny 100 lb grom that is just starting out, to 250 lb chargers that ride hard and push themselves on every ride. A stock fork will be valved to somewhere in the middle ground and feature a large enough adjustment range to handle a wide range of spring rates that the different end users may need. Conversely, when you order a CR1 cartridge it is tailor made to your weight, riding style, and terrain that you frequent. This sort of service isn't just for riders who happen to know exactly what they want their suspension to be doing and understand the technology, but also for riders who simply want a better handling bike. If you aren't sure what you need, but know you want something better, talk to the guys at CR1 Engineering and let them guide you through the process to put together something that suits your needs.




Riding impressions


Our CR1 cartridge was installed into a well used 2008 RockShox Boxxer chassis for testing, although they have versions to fit Boxxers from 2002 to 2010 model years. When going this route it is important to give your lowers and stanchion tubes a thorough looking over to check for any damage, also be sure that you're bushings are in good shape. Our fork started life off as a Boxxer Team and although the lowers had some cosmetic damage, the stanchions were in pristine condition. The first impression that I got from the CR1 equipped Boxxer is that it felt a bit under sprung and under damped. The fork is incredibly sensitive to the slightest input and at first felt very eager to enter it's travel at slow speeds. While having great performing and active suspension is always a plus, I've certainly felt far too many stock forks that suffer from being both under sprung and under damped as to feel great on the showroom floor, but suffer badly when on the trail. The first cautionary push had me a bit worried as to whether or not it would come together on the trail and at speed. I needn't have worried.


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The CR1 felt at ease on the nastiest of sections


At slow speeds or on tame terrain the CR1 cartridge gives the feeling of having very little compression damping. It responds well to small trail chatter and absorbs things that less sensitive forks may deflect off of instead of soaking up. This can go a long way in helping traction, especially when the terrain is loose or covered in marbles. The incredibly responsive nature of the CR1 equipped fork will make even the smoothest sliding stock fork feel like it is over damped and not moving freely. The usual result of having such a characteristic on a off the shelf fork is that it will tend to blow through it's travel just when you don't want it to. Not the case with the CR1 Boxxer. Despite being hyperactive, the fork stood up in it's travel incredibly well, much better than when the fork was in stock form, which was a welcome surprise. This trait was especially welcome when riding fast on demanding terrain and under heavy braking that would usually force a fork deep down into it's stoke. I don't pretend to know how CR1's cartridge can be so active, yet feel as if it has more than adequate low speed compression damping that keeps things composed when the trail is steep or under hard braking. This really highlights the advantages of a fork that is valved specifically for you, as opposed to one who's job it is to do a satisfactory job for a lot of riders who would need different spring rates.


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The higher the speeds, the better the CR1 cartridge felt


The faster and harder you push the CR1 equipped fork, the better it feels. The front wheel moves up and out of the way incredibly fast when smashing through large rocks and roots - you can certainly feel them, but they upset the bike a lot less than they should. I found myself having more confidence when the terrain got big, and possibly even more speed because of that. High speed hits that result in other forks basically feeling like they are locked out were handled much better by the CR1 cartridge. Full travel was used, but the hydraulic bottoming cone did it's job and it was never a hard or jarring hit. When ordering our CR1 cartridge we told Adrian our weight and what we were looking for, as well as how we thought we rode, and it very much feels like he nailed it. Because of this we spent less time fiddling with dials than any other fork in recent memory, but keep in mind that although both the compression and rebound knobs have 40 clicks, their effective range is quite small. This isn't a drawback, but it may not be what some of you are accustomed to. Instead of being able to slow the fork's rebound or compression down an excessive amount, the range is far more usable and riders are less likely to end up with the completely wrong setup. This lets you make subtle differences to the already dialed baseline settings.

While the performance of the CR1 cartridge was certainly impressive, all was not perfect on the reliability front. After nearly eight months of hard use we experienced a loss of damping that was traced back to a small O-ring that must have been nicked at some point. While the fork was still ridable, there was a loss of damping on both the compression and rebound strokes. Being able to call up and speak directly to the guys at CR1 to sort out the problem was definitely a change from the usual warranty runaround and it was nice to know that the problem could be taken care of quickly and easily. Yes, we had a failure, but the performance and customer service would still have me using a CR1 cartridge on my personal bike.


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So where does all that leave us? The CR1 performed incredibly well and I would recommend it to anyone who knows how they want their suspension to behave, as well as those riders who may not know all the lingo to what is exactly happening under them, but still want the best performance possible. The cartridge itself is not inexpensive, retailing at $599.99 USD, but keep in mind that that is still much cheaper than a completely new fork that probably won't offer the same level of performance that the CR1 cartridge can bring you, let alone the custom valving. The other option, one that should appeal to a lot of riders, is CR1's ready to ride fork. For $999.99 USD (2011 models will be go up in price slightly) you get a complete 2010 Boxxer chassis with a CR1 cartridge already installed.


Visit CR1 Engineering to get more info and see all of their suspension services.

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60 Comments
  • 7 0
 Awesome. They're bringing motocross technology to mtb, nothing beats a good old shim stack for damping. I just don't get why a privateer would want 40 clicks of adjustment. It is a very fine tuning range i know, but unless you're running data logging and have a engineer working with you, you're not gonna get any advantage from such a precise adjustment. I don't think you can really feel the difference between each click with such a precise range.
  • 10 0
 i wish to know how it performs opposite to a 40
  • 10 4
 HAHAHAHAHA this is a Manitou TPC System HAHAHAHAHAHA
  • 6 1
 tpc damping is better that anything that rock shooks has. it's the rest of the manitou fork that sucks.
  • 3 1
 Well what did you expect. Every single bike brand out there copies each other.
  • 5 0
 They stopped making the Travis because that era of Manitou needs desperately to be forgotten..
  • 2 1
 So they had a Manitou Travis Air Backed intrinsic damper and they filled the air chamber with nitrogen...

Yeah its not that easy to calculate it and it is great, but i guess the thing that bothers me is the fact that no one bought it in the Travis but now when you get it for the Boxxer it's "the mega cool thing to have".

At the end of the day it's not the damper you buy but the fact you have a "Custom Tuned Boxxer" and that's why you pay those extra $$$

The Bottoming Cone is a great idea and a needed upgrade for this kind of damper, but with some brains you can fix the intrinsic damper so you won't need it.

I wonder why they stop making the Travis...
  • 1 0
 I really wonder how much better this would be over the factory 2010 WC/Team damping on the boxxer? I dunno if it would be $599 worth, but I am not a WC racer. Heck I don't even race anymore. I am waiting to see what Push comes up with for the 2010 boxxer. Worst case I take my race and upgrade to team/wc dampers.
  • 1 0
 We have many riders that have the older version of the world cup and the new 2010 world cup. Every rider can't believe how much of a difference the cartridge makes and I'm not saying it just to pump up the product I'm just speaking the truth coming from rider feedback. In regards to World Cup top riders you will never see what they are running in their forks nor will it be offered to the public. In return they take the feedback from their top riders to make the production forks better by taking what they have learned from the testing and racing done to make the production suspension the best they can, and if they did offer I'm sure it would cost a huge chunck of change. They also have to make a fork that works best for a mass amount of people and try to get the best common settings, factory riders have suspension techs fine tuning their suspension at every course. I have had the opportunity to test for some motocross magazines and have tested from stock to factory race bikes. fact be told was that we were never allowed to take apart the suspension to see what was inside or what was done on the factory bikes. I can tell you this from what I experienced in my days of testing is that factory suspension and handling is like cheating when compared to stock either it be motocross or downhill, the CR1 cartridge was designed for riders and racers that are looking to try to get the most out of their suspension. Decline magazine will be doing a test soon about the cartridge so that will be another unbiased opinion on the product. Have fun, Ride and Race your hardest but always make sure your smiling inside that helmet, you doing what you love!
  • 1 0
 Thats right Wink HAve Fun when your riding your Bike, is the key.
  • 1 0
 Elka really sold me on the value of suspension designed around the bike and rider. We pay waaaaay too much for this stuff due to the smaller market already this little bit extra for the HUGE gain is a small price to pay. You get a better designed product that works for YOU, AND in my experience these smaller companies have much better warranty support. True I have not tried the CR1 cartridge, but after replacing my Fox shock with an Elka I am fully sold on custom suspension.
  • 1 0
 Look at patentstorm.com ,answer/manitou got the patent for mx and for bicycles. look at google for the new showa mx ssf fork. thats a tpc+ dorado ;-) here in europe the moto x magazin wirites about it too. no joke
  • 2 0
 verry strong sistem like a "Manitou TPC System ">>, but with small important difference
  • 4 1
 WTF was that on 1:38? a flame efect or just sun? Its weird...
  • 1 1
 its really weird
  • 1 1
 really....??? whats hapenig?
  • 1 0
 It's the sun....what else could it be?
  • 3 2
 naw that's just the one defect of the CR1 internals, they blow up when you crash... those looked so crazy though! a bit expensive, but for some affluent racer looking to upgrade a little, it should go over well
  • 2 1
 watched that bit about 20 times. im guessing if some edit effect. only other explanation i can think of is maybe his brake disks are so hot they set light the ground???? random
  • 3 0
 Its pretty obvious isn't it. The sun is behind him, as he crashes, dust goes up and gets back lit
  • 2 0
 Facepalm ...THANK you molland, i was starting to think this place was full of tards.
  • 1 0
 I had heard it was co-designed with Elka?

I love the feeling of my stock Boxxer, but am sick of the plastic garbage inside, this is definitely the ticket!
  • 1 0
 Not certain about that and unless you can back it up why make such a comment.
  • 2 0
 Actually Adrain used alot of time with Craig at Avalanche to design and have parts made...
Its a good system and on the right track, couple of things a little odd but still a good start...

I run the Avy cart in my 2010 Boxxer wc and its a BEAST, I weight 235 lbs before gear and I run 65 PSI in my WC (yes 65 LOL) it sits 35% and Ive cased some stuff really hard its plush all the way through... Plus avys $299 and Craigs been designing MX suspension over 30 years...


Either way its going to be alot better than stock which is great because its now custom valved and spec'd.. So Im sure its a good product cant imagine it not being pretty SICK!!!!
  • 1 0
 bullcrew: I'll PM you for info seeing your well placed to comment and I need info. Wink
  • 3 0
 It was not designed by Elka we just had a meeting with them due to their possible interest in the product. This is 100% designed by Adrian Cortina and yes it does have some features of what Manitou offers but they don't offer custom tuning, hydraulic bottom out, and a nitrogen charged fork. We stand by our product and if something goes wrong we replace it no charge to the customer or send the parts off to the customer. Soon their will be a video tutorial of how to tune, assemble and service the cartridge. If any of you are willing to think outside of the box take a look at the new Kawasaki KX450F's coming out their fork is the basic design of what mountain bikes are using but without any plastic. And this product is not intended for everyone, it's for the riders and racers who know that they want more out their fork and know that plastic can only go so far. We also back up the product that if it's not setup to your liking we will redo it for free. Thanks, for all the feedback both positive and negative. No company can grow in development if another company does not help push this envelope open for you! Thanks, CR1
  • 3 0
 Right there! What he said and props to them!!!!!! Looks like a well designed product and love the knobs... Good luck to you CR1 boys 2 huge thumbs up...
  • 2 0
 Thanks bullcrew! I take it you know the history between Adrian and Craig at Avalanche. Thanks againg and for shits and giggles look up the new KX450F and look at the design they are doing for the forks this year. Now motocross is taking parts from mountain biking and vice versa!
  • 1 0
 Rigaud,

See that little symbol at the end of my comment "?" thats a question mark, it indicates that I WAS ASKING A QUESTION!! THATS why I made that comment...
ugh

Thanks bullcrew and wade776 for the heads up. Its nice to at least see some people on this page who dont have their heads up their asses...

Next time the stock internals go boom I will definately be giving CR1 a call!
I always like supporting the smaller companies and based on what I have heard and read you guys definately deserve the support.
  • 2 0
 EricBirk Take it easy, I was polite and sorry if you took it the wrong way wasn't meant to offend. I got a reply for availability to fit one of Avalanches cartridges in my 888 and should be mid August. I have an older non adjustable cartridges from Marz in my 888 and the rest of the fork still mint. I'll give it a shot and try it out.
  • 1 0
 Rigaud, I apologize, I guess I did take your comment the wrong way.
  • 3 0
 Does it work for a 2010 Boxxer WC?
  • 2 0
 man tuning for a boxxer wc ? Big Grin
If you buy one cr1 tuning,would you sell me the wc parts ? Big Grin
  • 4 1
 say goodbye to your rock shox warranty
  • 1 1
 too right
  • 1 0
 who cares, you get better internals, better dampening, and a better warranty from these guys. If you know a good shop you could still get the rest of the fork warrantied if required.
  • 1 0
 not really, no. If a shop is gonna buck up for you than thats on their dollar. no way is that fork going to a rock shox tech center and having any warranty done. if CR1 has a good policy onj the internals thats great. but if anything happens to say your stanchions, lowers, crowns, than your in a world of costly repair. there is always a price for aftermarket performance that may go beyond the cost of your new manitou in disguise.
  • 1 1
 keep your stock internals. If you have any issues put them back in and send it out for warranty.
  • 3 0
 lol dosnt quite work that way. if you can work on your own fork inside out , why would you bother with these goofy "upgrades." boxxer's are pretty easy to work on in general but why waste your efforts.
  • 1 1
 Why doesnt it quite work that way? you said it yourself, they are simple to work on. If anything goes wrong,change it out...
  • 2 1
 Manitou make the very best damping systems, and every one know it and copy it. like the specialized fsr system. you will find it on so much bikeframes. thats ok, why not?
  • 1 0
 seriously though, lets just skip the middle man and give the credit where its due, MX. Where do you think manitou gets their ideas?
  • 2 0
 love it but a bit pricey at 600 dollars!
  • 5 0
 I stopped reading after i saw the price tag...lol
  • 1 0
 its only £392 roughly thats not too bad but do you recon they will send a kit over rather than sending forks over for them to do it and send them back lol cuz that'll cost lots
  • 1 0
 thats not that much even the complete fork for $1000. the team new is more then that.
  • 1 0
 that what i thought a TF complete custom tune etc isn't exactly cheap and they don't go as far as that
  • 1 0
 With TF you dont get any hardware,just a tune (apart from a push tune).

Just imagine if you bought one of these and then it broke,not so bad if you live in the US but in the UK it would cost mega bucks.
  • 1 0
 im getting my rear shock done by these guys just rebuilt but with better parts
  • 2 0
 OK, the IFP Pistoo is made from alloy ;-)
  • 3 2
 as good as boxxers are, this just makes it better
  • 1 0
 such sick shredding..........ahhhh i wanna ride right now
  • 1 0
 Awesome quality of parts
  • 2 1
 look sick.
  • 1 3
 dude...sweet...
  • 4 0
 Eek that slide at 00:48 is F'CKIN CRISP!!!!
  • 1 1
 what was the flash of light during the crash sweet riding.
  • 2 1
 aha yep i spotted that aswell right at the end, looked like his wheel set alight lol







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