Cube Stereo 140 C:68 SLT 29 - Review

Jul 31, 2017
by David Arthur  


The Stereo has been a part of Cube’s range for many years, but it’s continually evolving. A flick through the German bike brand's catalogue is to be blinded by choice. Within the Stereo range alone there are multiple travel options (from 120 to 160mm), different wheel sizes and frame materials to choose from. Right in the middle of this mix is a 29” Stereo packing 140mm of travel. The C:68 SLT 29, tested here, is the range-topping model with the best equipment and highest price tag.

We were keen to test this bike because it is, save for a few key components such as the fork and shock, the same bike Greg Callaghan raced at the Ireland round of the Enduro World Series last year, a race which he won. Pinkbike ran a story about the hometown hero switching from his usual 27.5” wheeled Cube Stereo for the big-wheeled version.



Cube Stereo 140 C:68 SLT 29
• Intended use: xc / trail / all-mountain
• Rear wheel travel: 140mm
• Fork travel: 140mm
• Wheel size: 29’'
• 68º head angle
• Carbon frame with bottle cage mount
• Boost spacing front and rear
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 25.57lb (size L)
• MSRP: £5,199
• Contact: Cube Bikes

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29
Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29
State-of-the-art, carbon-fibre construction makes the Cube Stereo crazy light, and it looks funky too.

Frame Details

The Stereo 140 C:68 SLT 29 utilises Cube’s most advanced, twin-mold carbon construction with C:68, a spread-tow carbon (used by some other companies already, including Felt). What sets this type of carbon construction apart is that it uses an untwisted bundle of continuous filaments, which are spread out flat and interlaced within the layup. Cube says the benefits of this development is higher carbon fibre content and less of the resin that holds it all together.

“C68 represents a highly innovative carbon technology with less resin and a fibre content of 68%. Previously the fibre content was usually about 60%. Through spreading fibres clearly, thinner layers can be attained than layers otherwise conventionally could be, a so-named spread tow technology,” says Cube. It certainly creates a very distinctive appearance on the frame and is definitely a talking point in the carpark before a ride.

The carbon front triangle is combined with an aluminium swingarm and forged rocker linkage. Boost is rapidly becoming standard on new bikes and the Stereo utilises the wider 148mm rear axle. But it’s not Plus compatible so don’t go trying to squeeze some fatter tyres on, there ain’t space. There’s a press-fit bottom bracket, a nod to the level of stiffness Cube is trying to achieve with the frame, though it won’t get the nod from budding home mechanics.

It’s possible to fit a front mech still and, indeed, Cube specs the frame with 2x drivetrains elsewhere in the range, but this 1x drivetrain leaves the mount redundant. There’s full internal cable routing, including provisions for an internally-routed dropper post. Cube also outfitted the frame with a useful down tube protector to ward of rock strikes and space in the main frame for a water bottle.

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29

Frame Details

All of Cube’s bikes use a similar four-bar suspension configuration, with a chainstay pivot to isolate braking forces and keep the suspension working smoothly at all times.

This model gets a top-end Fox Float DPS EVOL Factory shock delivering 140mm travel with three-way compression adjustment. The rear shock is mounted to a small shelf moulded at the bottom of the seat tube. A long and flat forged rocker linkage activates the shock. To boost swingarm stiffness the seat stays are braced, but they run very close to the tyre and can clog with mud. Up front is a Fox 34 Float Factory FIT4 Boost fork that delivers 140mm of travel.

Geometry

Geometry is rapidly changing and it can be difficult at times to keep abreast of the constantly moving goalposts. Take your eye of the industry for a moment and they’ve made another massive leap forward. Cube has updated its Stereo bikes over the years, but the numbers suggest a more conservative approach than many other companies. It’s certainly not on the bleeding edge of the long and low movement, a la Whyte or Mondraker.

The Stereo 29” is available in four sizes (16 to 22”). Chainstay length says constant (446.5mm) across the range, rather than changing in length according to frame size, as is the case with some models like the Norco Sight. A 68-degree head angle, 1182mm wheelbase and 436mm reach on the size Large bike aren’t the most modern numbers and puts the Cube behind the Trek Fuel EX and Santa Cruz Hightower in the length department.
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Specifications
Specifications
Price $6825
Travel 140mm
Rear Shock Fox Float DPS Factory, 190x51mm
Fork ox 34 Float Factory FIT4,140mm
Cassette Sram XG-1295, 10-50T
Crankarms SRAM XO1 Eagle, 30T, Boost, 175mm
Rear Derailleur SRAM XO1 Eagle, 12-Speed
Chain SRAM PC-XO1 Eagle
Shifter Pods SRAM XO1 Eagle Trigger
Handlebar Syntace Vector Carbon High20, 780mm
Stem Syntace Megaforce 2
Brakes SRAM Level Ultimate
Wheelset DT CSW AM 3.9
Tires Schwalbe Nobby Nic Kevlar 2.35, TrailStar
Seat Fi`zi:k Gobi Carbon Braided
Seatpost Rock Shox Reverb Stealth, 150mm

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29







Climbing

There’s no denying it, the top-tier Cube Stereo is a rapid climber - it’s the fastest and easiest climbing bike I’ve yet tested for Pinkbike. The low weight is the obvious reason behind its insatiable appetite for scaling climbs. In or out of the saddle it surges forward with little hesitation. It’s quite addictive; you’ll be smashing up climbs like you’re Nino Schurter, elbows out lungs bursting sweat inducing. The seated position with the steep seat angle puts you in a really good position for cranking out the power on very long climbs, and the saddle is a comfortable perch for extended periods of pedaling.

Cube’s four-bar suspension provides a smooth, linear feel with the top-end Fox Float DPS shock providing exceptionally good small bump sensitivity. The rear suspension smothers everything at lower speeds. Turn the wick up and the same suspension tends to blow through the travel. It’s possible to bottom it out on bigger drops a tad too easily. I ramped up the air pressure to achieve better support and found it provided a predictable balance. The suspension comes into its own on climbs and traversing trails. It minimises unwanted bob, so you don’t have to resort to the firm setting, yet it’s sensitive enough to ensure that the tyre tracks the ground well and delivers great traction on steep, rooty climbs.

The full carbon frame provides a high level of stiffness. It feels very taut when you’re out of the saddle and levering the wide bars, gifting the Stereo a very alert and responsive character. On short, sharp climbs, the bike snaps forward with startling acceleration. The Eagle drivetrain - apart from the chain snapping twice during testing - provided all the gears I ever needed on the trail I tested the Cube on. I never encountered a situation where I was under or over-geared. Because of the low weight of the bike the 50t sprocket didn’t get as much use as it might on heavier longer travel bike - the Stereo isn’t for winching up climbings, but rather for scorching them in search of KOMs.

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29

Descending

You’ll reach the top of the climbs ahead of your mates on this bike, so you’ll have plenty of time to catch your breath before the fun part of the ride, the descents. On the other hand, you might want to use that time to get a head start because as fast as the Stereo is, your friends will probably catch you if they’re on a bike with more modern geometry. The big wheels and the smooth, consistent 140mm travel do help the Stereo build up a good pace on the descents. Similarly, the Stereo's stiff frame and low weight enable rapid acceleration out of corners and easy line changes to get around obstacles - you can place the bike where you need it on the trail with absolute precision. The bike's 780mm wide handlebar and 150mm dropper post add confidence and help you hold your line when it gets sketchy. All good things on a descent, to be sure.

When the going gets rowdy, however, the Stereo’s conservative geometry causes it to get out of its depth.

The Cube Stereo is a steeper, higher and shorter bike than more on-trend 29" bikes and that results in an often nervous disposition on very steep descents that possess lots of technical challenges. The bike feels compact and too high, the head angle too steep and the reach and wheelbase too short to really let you crush the downhills with authority. It's simply not as stable, composed, capable or fun in the rough compared to rival 29" bikes, like YT’s Jeffsy or the Trek Fuel EX. The Stereo definitely leans towards marathon and cross-country speed and efficiency, rather than riotous descending lunacy.

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29

After reading the preceding paragraph, you might think, "Why not go up a size?". The XL model, however, only gains 4mm of reach over the Large version while massively reducing the stand over clearance. I tried the XL bike, but the saddle was too high with the supplied dropper post! The head tube is also too long, which is compounded by the tall conical spacer atop the headset. The end result are handlebars that simply felt too high, making it trickier at times to get your weight over the front wheel. It all combines to create a bike that feels finicky on very technical descents.

The Stereo is not a playful bike that encourages you to bomb down the trail, brakes off and feet off the pedals, careening through the corners like you’re Ratboy on a charge. The Cube Stereo is very focused, sharp and precise - like a sushi chef - and makes decent progress, but you really need to grab it by the scruff of its neck and manhandle it with plenty of weight distribution changes to get the best of it. Then again, any time lost on the descent to your riding pals you’ll easily make back up on the climbs, and for some people, that’s the bike they want. I imagine, though, that a lot of Pinkbike readers would feel the ratio is flipped the wrong way.

Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29
Cube Stereo 140 C 68 SLT 29
The down tube protector is a smart addition but the seat stay bridge limits mud clearance at the back.

Component Check

Where Cube Bikes have been very successful is in offering very competitively-priced bikes; this one is no exception. The Stereo is certainly not cheap, but you’re getting some very tasty kit and it compares well with some of the direct sales brands, yet comes with the support and convenience of a local dealer network.

• SRAM XO1 Eagle: SRAM’s 12-speed drivetrain is a thing of wonder, with slick gear shifts across the huge cassette and all the range you could ever really need, I certainly never came up short on any climbs. The final jump at top of the cassette is fairly large, which does take some getting used to, but it’s no biggie to adapt your riding. I also managed to snap the Eagle 12-speed chain twice which was annoying.

• Schwalbe Nobby Nic: The German tyre company’s cross-country tyres are regularly lambasted on internet forums, but these latest versions provided good performance. Perhaps Nic's best trait is providing consistent performance in a wide range of conditions, from dusty to muddy trails, without ever really getting out of its depth. I want a bit more front end grip and would be tempted to fit a Magic Mary up front to give the front end a bit more bite in the corners.

• Fizik Gobi Carbon Braided saddle: I’m a fussy bugger when it comes to saddles, but I got on really well with this one from the Italian company. It’s well padded and the shaped proved to be a good fit for me. I completed many long rides remarking on how comfortable I was at the end. A saddle is not something you might give much thought to when riding a new bike, but it can make or break that first-ride enjoyment.



Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesThere’s no shortage of good 140mm travel 29" bikes on the market these days, but there’s still a huge variance in the geometry each bike brand chooses. With its impressive low weight, top-notch build kit and very competitive price, there’s a lot to like about the Stereo. If you want a bike that is well rounded with a leaning towards uphill speed, it might be the bike for you, but the geometry isn’t as progressive as other brands, which ultimately limited the fun factor for me on the descents. David Arthur







About the Reviewer David Arthur is a freelance mountain biker writer based in the UK.
Stats: Age: 36 • Height: 5'11" • Weight: 155lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None




111 Comments

  • 88 11
 2007 called, they want their geo and standover height back
  • 20 2
 140mm aggressive 29er with a headangle of 68°
bit too conservative imho
  • 30 3
 Always ben my feeling with Cubes - really high, awkward geometry, short reach.

You know when you first sit in a bike and it just feels "right"? The exact opposite of that.
  • 30 0
 The new stereo 140 2018 has a way mor modern geometry

www.bike-magazin.de/mtb_news/mtb_neuheiten/cube-das-neue-stereo-140-und-fullys-fuer-2018/a36746.html

Sorry its german didnt find an english verson

Sorry bout the
  • 20 6
 @fatalityBMX you do realize not every bike is made for dh eh. The numbers look great for more flatland trail riders.
  • 32 2
 It is the Ellsworth's more attractive European cousin.
  • 12 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: Now that Cube looks sick!
  • 8 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: I've always had a soft spot for the 140 stereo, but that 2018 looks seriously nice.
  • 13 1
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: Better, bu they're still doing the thing of giving XL bikes 22inch seat tubes. What is it with the German bike brands and their 22inch seat tubes?! I'm an XL guy and I want an XL bike, give me a 19 in seat tube and a 150mm dropper, not a seat tube that has to have a warning light for low flying aircraft on it.
  • 6 17
flag mhoshal (Jul 31, 2017 at 5:20) (Below Threshold)
 @Fix-the-Spade: coming from a guy with a diamondback i dont think you have any experience on good quality bikes so i cant take anything you say seriously!! This is a great dialed trail bike and if a 22" seat tube is to big for you you're nowhere near an XL guy lol
  • 10 1
 @mhoshal: I'm six feet five inches, what size bike would you recommend for me then? For XL bikes the size should be in the reach and not the seat tube, with 19in seat tube and a 150mm drop dropper the saddle still ends up the best part of 30inches from the bb.
  • 7 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: Wow the 2018s are miles ahead of the one reviewed here and Cube brought back the Freeride catergory!
  • 4 0
 @Fix-the-Spade:
At 6'5"? Size XXL
  • 7 3
 I'm going to agree with @Fix-the-Spade ,even the new Cube leaves something to be desired. It's two year old geometry. While Kona, Transition, and others are stretching Size Large Trail and Enduro bikes out to 470 reach with 18" seat tubes, the 2018 Cube still looks it requires a 60mm stem for the taller rider of each size. 127mm head tube for the large and that silly huge spacer are also kinda traditional. In fact, when you compare the geometry of the 2018 Cube HPC to 2018 Specialized Epic, they are almost identical. Same reach, head tube length, and heck, both are designed around longer stems. So the new Cube will be a 140mm XC bike. Great.
  • 2 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: Thanks for finding the link, the pics of the new design were all I needed
  • 2 0
 @AlexS1: but it won't be a 29er if I did not oversee anything
  • 3 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: that looks way better!
  • 3 0
 @honourablegeorge: I don't no. I'm on a 2016 fuel ex with 68d ha.. I find it to be a great middle ground for climbing and decending.. Tossed a shorter stem wider bars / pike 130mm with minions and the thing damn near gives me the best of both worlds..
  • 2 0
 @mhoshal: Agreed! Then again I still appreciate the climbs.. Earn ur turns!
  • 1 0
 @EagleOfFreedom: Yeah, you are right, kinda bummed... 2018 is the year they finally get the look and colors right.
  • 2 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: I'm the same length as you are. But my legs are very very long and body quite short. This Cube is almost the only bike i can get on and stil get high enough with the saddle to be comfy when i'm climbing. And the frame is still short enough for my freakishly weird body to be nimble in the corners. I prefer the kona geo of 2 years ago compared to the geo of today. I don't need a long bike, but a high bike. So thank the spaghettimonster for the germans and their "old fashioned" geo's!!
  • 2 0
 @bohns1: I'm in the same boat. My Covert 29 has a 68 degree head angle, and is shorter than this cube, but with some wide bars, coil shock, guide brakes, and 2.5 minions I rarely wish I had more bike under me.
  • 5 0
 Holy Eff. 2018 and 2017 bikes aren't even comparable.
  • 2 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: don't take mhoshal too seriously, he has knuckle tattoos and does big gnarly hucks and if you upset him he will offer to meet you for a man cuddle.
  • 2 0
 @Racer951: Buy me a drink and it's hugs all round.
  • 3 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: no way that that cube only costs 3500€.
If so I may consider to buy one
  • 1 0
 My old tallboy Lt has the same geo. It ripped pretty good.
  • 4 1
 @mhoshal: It's an unpopular opinion, but I agree with you.

Every body these days is going for massively slacked out front ends. I think it's a good idea for certain purposes and to certain extents, but a 160mm bike with like a 65 HTA just doesn't make sense to me - on trails it's overkill most of the time, yet it's not enough suspension for bike parks. The first time you huck-to-flat a 30 footer or crash into a rock garden at mach-chicken you're going to realize that 160mm may as well be 120mm.
  • 1 2
 @WaterBear: you sound as crackers as mhoshal - do you go hucking '30s to flat' with him? Got any cool nuckle tattoos? Josh bender poster on your ceiling? How many karpiels you got?
  • 4 0
 @WaterBear: Totally agree! 67 to 68 ha is the best of both worlds for me.. I need climability and rarely frequent bike parks but also love to bomb downs and hit some jumps.. Geo numbers are getting a bit carried away for me these days.
  • 2 1
 That T-Rex fit. Same as Commencal.
  • 1 2
 @Fix-the-Spade: lmao i doubt you're that tall and on a 17" ironhorse man your full of shit if you were 6' 5" a 22 inch seatube would be a way better fit unless you have some short ass midget legs. Im 6' and a 19 fits me no problem and ive ridden 21" in the past no problem
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal: but you are karpiel and benders love child you could huck a bmx to a 60 flat no problem.

You can also tell people how tall they are, because they cannot possibly know this themselves.
  • 1 0
 @dirtenistderwahnsinn: That bike looks sick Smile .
  • 1 0
 @Racer951: All I'm saying is that 20-30 foot jumps are rather common at DH parks (but not on trails). The first time you screw one up and land flat (or into the face of a berm), heaven help your 160mm travel enduro bike.
  • 1 0
 @WaterBear: the thing is, many of us like the confidence of slacker, longer, and lower bikes, even if they are a short travel. The recent video of the guy hitting some massive lines on a 130mm Transition Scout Carbon doesn't mean that everybody thinks that a short travel bike is now the new DH bike, but for a lot of riders, the aggressive geometry just feels better.
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal: Thank you for that kindly worded and well reasoned response. On the advice of one of my friends I'm revising my height measurement from 6ft5 to 'Tall As f*ck,' I hope that gives you a better idea.
  • 1 1
 @Racer951: no i just know that a guy thats 6' 5" would fit a 22" no problem lol its not rocket science taller guy= bigger bike duh..
  • 2 0
 @mhoshal: but are you karpiel and benders love child and can you huck a 60 to flat on a bmx?
  • 1 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: I believe you're 6' 5" man i just dont buy that a 22" seatube is too bog for you again unless you have some short leg which i dont believe to be the case man and judging by your 17 ironhorse frame i have to question whether you've even ever rode a 22" frame before
  • 2 0
 @Racer951: more like 75' man lol
  • 1 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: And not every tall guy wants 16 inches of seatpost protruding from the seat tube.
  • 1 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: And not every tall guy wants 16 inches of seatpost protruding from the seat tube.
  • 1 0
 @PHeller: Oh, you can ride any bike on any jump line if you hit the landings well. Most people screw that up some times, hence what I said about landing flat. What you probably don't see in your video is a Scout being hucked to flat.

Like I said, there's nothing wrong with slacking out trail bikes a bit, adding some travel, shortening stays, etc. But 65 degrees is going to make a bike corner poorly on flat ground. You only need that for the steepest, true all-mtn trails.

IMO anyway. If you like the geometry, then screw me and ride what works.
  • 2 0
 CUBE is always kinda conservative of their geometry.
  • 21 1
 Good review, makes the intentions of the bike clear and for once its one not entirely about being the fastest down the hill. I guess it makes sense for Cube to go for a wider audience than the "I want to ride park with this"-crowd, appealing to a more mainstream consumer. Also for Greg Callaghan seems to work well enough.

By the way their 2018 models look much more "modern", still not extreme by any means but for sure more pinkbike-approved. I like the frames new looks quite a lot. www.bike-magazin.de/mtb_news/mtb_neuheiten/cube-das-neue-stereo-140-und-fullys-fuer-2018/a36746.html
  • 3 0
 Though, to be fair, there is (so far) no 29er option in the 2018 line. BTW, I used to ride a 27,5 HPC and it also fit the tester's description. It climbed very well but was simply not very "fun" when riding fast downhill. OTOH, at least for me, it was very capable when descending steep, technical stuff.
  • 1 0
 @santoman: that is true and many models they haven´t updated it seems. I think Cube is trying to appeal to the widest market, meaning standard geometries that beginners have an easier time to adapt to, maybe.

I also tried a 2016 Stereo/Fritzz 160 and got along quite well with it, but felt more like a trailbike with lots of travel than a bike designed for going fast. Not how I would build a "enduro-race" but well
  • 2 1
 Wins in ews and no 29er??

All producers push long travel 29er...

This is quite strange business strategy...
  • 4 0
 This 2018 update looks awesome
  • 7 1
 So instead of a short travel "enduro" bike this is more of a long travel xc bike?
  • 3 5
 @zede: no its a trail bike not xc or enduro bike
  • 1 0
 @zede: yeah I think this pretty much describes Cube´s geometries and focus pretty well. I mean their bikes are really light aswell. Though it would not be wrong to say "trail bike" as every bike ever with no 100% definite use like a race-xc or race-dh can be seen as trailbike.
  • 5 0
 @mhoshal: but it allows you to cross the country if you got the endurance.
  • 13 0
 "...That said, once I finished testing this bike and went back to an 11-speed SRAM drivetrain, I found the closer ratios of the 10-42t suited my local trails better."

Actually, Eagle has exactly the same cog sizes for 10-42...

10-50t: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42-50
10-42t: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42

One could argue that he's complaining about the 42-50 jump. But it's actually a lower percentage ratio change than many of the jumps below that.

That said, I own two Eagle setups and one SRAM 11-speed. The 11-speed is solid, where the Eagle groups have proven very finicky to get working correctly. Any tweak on the der. hanger and it blows shifts in a big way. The B-Tension setting has to be just so, even chain wear over a couple hundred of miles will take it too far off to perform at it's best.
  • 3 0
 Also Eagle derailleur is noticeably longer which makes rock strikes much more common. Eagle may find it's use in XC and maybe cyclocross but trail riding and enduro should be left for 11 speed or gearbox Smile .
  • 11 0
 I dont get why they review it now, where the new cube stereo 140 2018 is out now with a way more modern geometry: a slacker headangle longer reach and shorter chainstays
www.bike-magazin.de/mtb_news/mtb_neuheiten/cube-das-neue-stereo-140-und-fullys-fuer-2018/a36746.html
I know the source is in German but didnt find an english on
  • 2 0
 Oh was already posted Sorry bout that
  • 2 0
 Because there is no update for the 29er. As mentioned in your link, "Das Stereo 140 mit 29er-Laufräder verschwindet vorerst aus den Cube-Shops" (For the moment, the stereo 140 20er disapears from the Cube-shops).
  • 1 0
 @MSVF: Not to mention much development on the longer travel 160mm models.
  • 6 0
 I tried a Stereo 140 in 27.5 in size L. I am 1.82m, the bike felt really small, my knees were almost touching the handlebar. Guy was saying, that is my size, an XL would be too big. Bikes look great, but the frames are very small.
  • 9 0
 "Annoying" is not the word to describe breaking two Eagle chains in one testing period - that's £150 worth at RRP
  • 5 0
 Have been riding a stereo 160 hpa tm for almost a year with these specs (www.cube.eu/en/products/fullsuspension/stereo/cube-stereo-160-hpa-tm-275-bermudabluenflashorange-2016), the price to specs ratio is incredible. it's fun both in bike parks and light downhill. And due to it's weight of 12,9 kg it's also a treat to go xco with it. To find that low weights from other bike brands you'll have to pay atleast 1000€ more. Good quality, not a single issue except the reverb dropper post. Can't recommend it enough!
  • 4 1
 I'm seeing alot of giant reign's on my local shops with better spec than this, probably there's more brands that offer the same level of equipment as cube. Not to mention my 2016 carbon Zesty was 3k and it's 12.3 kg (which is a true L at 461 mm of reach), threw a fox rear shock but still ended up cheaper than the cube. But if it rides well and makes you happy it doesnt matter anyway if there's better bikes for less money.
  • 3 0
 @steviejks: U might be right, there's probably a couple of bikes matching my cube. Zesty looks really neat but the carbon version for 3000 euro, that's amazing. You got a really good deal!
  • 3 0
 @steviejks: good luck riding xco with a reign
  • 8 3
 "We were keen to test this bike because it is, save for a few key components such as the fork and shock, the same bike Greg Callaghan raced at the Ireland round of the Enduro World Series"

so two of the most important components of a bike then are different lol
  • 5 0
 Nice bike, pretty light. I got the 150+ Stereo and its a great all round bike, never feels out of its depth even on the rough stuff. Im 5.8 and medium i supposed to be my size, went for the large though as medium felt too small.
  • 4 0
 What is the deal with the "closer ratios" comment comparing the SRAM 11 and 12 speed cassetts? The ratios between the gears are exactly the same on each.
  • 3 1
 Come on you people! I ride a 2014 cube analog 29er hardtail. 21" frame, even though i'd need a small/medium size, 70°, yes 70° headangle, short wheelbase... and i'm doing just fine. Sort of. I would love a bike that's more dh oriented but i ride what i got and just enjoy mountainbiking.
  • 3 4
 Tell me more about how fun paths are
  • 2 0
 I have a bike with similar geo and after I started to get better as a rider I hate it. It doesn't give you any confidence, like the bike is working against you. But is great as a street bike, to practice manuals and all that.
  • 6 1
 For anyone who doesn't like climbing what separates you from someone with an ebike?
  • 3 8
flag mollow (Jul 31, 2017 at 11:49) (Below Threshold)
 A fucking motor, idiot.
  • 4 0
 Is 25.5 lbs. correct for a large? That's lighter than a Pivot 429 trail. Most longer travel 29ers that you tested weigh closer to 29 lbs. Can you confirm that weight?
  • 3 0
 I don't even need to read the reviews anymore. Just look at Head Angle, seat angle and Wheelbase and can pretty much guess what the review will say. Oh, throw in bar width and stem length in that assessment as well.
  • 5 1
 Quite an interesting review to read; there hasn't been one in a while that has a "major" shortcoming within...
  • 6 1
 I don't know that it is a shortcoming - the bike is just more biased towards uphill riding than the other more contemporary 140mm 29ers out there. That will suit some people as the review alludes to, just probably not the majority of PB readers...
  • 5 1
 "you’ll be smashing up climbs like you’re Nino Schurter"
I wouldn't even if this was a e-bike. And no I don't want one.
  • 14 13
 Ok Bottom Line:
- Bike looks terrible
- Sizing and geo is weird
- Goes fast up a hill, sucks on the way down
- It's expensive

I've ridden the 27,5 Stereo and I have to say this bike is really terrible. I have nothing but bottom outs, and when I finally got the suspension to work, it felt like a hardtail at slow speeds.

In fact, I think every Cube sucks. I germany they are olastered over the bike shops, with their colour coordinated bullshit everywhere. Now they even make clothing and stuff, it's epidemic.

Just had to get that out of my system, those bikes seem to follow me everywhere...
  • 9 1
 a well rounded intelligent well thought out post we need more people like you giving us your insight . just not here.
  • 3 4
 You forgot : Boost rear end and still crappy tyre clearance
  • 11 0
 It had to be a real pain for Greg Callaghan riding a whole race season with this wierd sizing and geometry. "Every Cube sucks" - I wonder how it was possible for Greg Williamson to win the british nationals with a bike that sucks so hard?
  • 2 1
 @Isey: I suppose they could be on custom frames, angle headsets, custom shocks, longer travel forks. Or maybe none of the above and they will rise what they are paid to ride regardless of if it works well or not and will still do well.
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 @Isey: Callaghan seems to be using a 160mm Fox 36 up front that should give about a 67° head angle. The reviewer might have liked that setup better too.

Actually I would love to see the Stereo 120 HPC overforked with a 140 Fox 34 or a Pike. That could be a weapon for gnarly XC.
  • 5 1
 Greg Callagham and Matt Walker raced that particular bike seven times into the top 10 at EWS 2017.
I guess you´re right that bike is shit though.
  • 1 1
 @AndiN: they are a pretty weird feeling bike to be fair. I sat on one recently and it just felt all wrong in a way that I couldn't even comprehend. I've never felt a bike that immediately felt so wrong before.

That doesn't mean it's actually wrong once you get used to it though. But I agree about the colour coding thing. It's embarrassing when you see lads in full "race pilot" kit when they are in their 50s and pooling down a trail on the brakes.
  • 1 0
 Dear Pinkbike,
I love the reviews. On the section at the beginning where you give the short synopsis (intesded use, weight, msrp, etc) of a bike being reviewed could you also list the type of suspension (horst, vpp, etc)?
Thanks
  • 6 5
 David Arthur, this is the worst review I've read on Pinkbike in a long time... maybe ever? It reads like an MBA review from the Jimmy Mac era. First off, it's not just budding home mechanics that hate press fit bottom brackets, it's all mechanics everywhere.

This was terrible: "Because of the low weight of the bike the 50t sprocket didn’t get as much use as it might on heavier longer travel bike." "You’ll reach the top of the climbs ahead of your mates on this bike, so you’ll have plenty of time to catch your breath before the fun part of the ride, the descents."

You get some points for admitting the bike isn't all sunshine and rainbows, but when you could have said the truth- it rides downhill like shit- you instead went with this: "The Cube Stereo is very focused, sharp and precise - like a sushi chef."

This review was cold, dead, and I can't tell what was in it- like sushi.
  • 1 0
 Cube designed this bike without any idea about where the competition is going or why. But the 18 redesign breaks with that. It has a slacker longer front with shorter rear stays that use Boost for 2.6 x 29 tire room and wide rims. With its light weight the 18'll be a killer trail weapon. OH wait. I'm dreaming. It's 27.5 without space for even Plus. Good luck with that.
  • 1 0
 The problem with cube is: after 1 or 2 years you find yourself with an old bike nobody wants.
Don't know how they manage to do it, but even when it seems nice at the moment, they don't keep their value.
  • 3 0
 I have a cube fritzz 160mm aluminium 27.5. F* love it!
  • 2 0
 I had a cube fritzz 160mm last of the 26" wheel range. Loved it, sold it to my mate and wished I hadn't.
  • 4 0
 catchy name...
  • 1 0
 I have to get me one of these.
SRAM XO1 Eagle: SRAM’s 12-speed drivetrain is a thing of wonder, I also managed to snap the Eagle 12-speed chain twice which was annoying.
  • 2 0
 i wish i could climb faster though.
  • 3 2
 Cant respect a reviewer who doesnt rip a nobbby nic in the first 5 minutes of riding.
  • 2 0
 The new one looks waaaay better.
  • 3 0
 Looks like a cube.
  • 4 3
 68 degree head angle? Fuq. That.
  • 1 0
 I guess Cibe was too busy focusing on their eBikes.
  • 1 0
 Certainly is a 'cube' bike
  • 1 0
 looks like a fuel EX 29
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 Snapped chains = operator error. I haven't snapped a chain in over 20 years including on our 300lb team weight tandem climbing 20% grades.
  • 1 0
 ... or = you left your bike out in the rain for a few hours in 2012 and couldn't be bothered changing the rusty POS until it failed twice in 2017...
  • 1 0
 Square
  • 2 5
 Ugly
  • 1 4
 meh
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