Data Indicates that Bike Theft is on the Rise During the COVID 19 Pandemic

Feb 15, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  

Data released by British bike insurer Bikmo last Thursday adds to a growing number of statistics that indicate bike theft is on the rise due to the pandemic.

Bikmo said claims for theft were up 23% from just two years ago in 2020 and theft accounted for just under 49% of its total claims. Bikmo is predicting a further 45% rise in bike theft in 2021. This figure is echoed by stats from North America in the past few months too. The police stats from New York show that the number of bicycles, including those with electric motors, reported stolen from March through September was 4,477, an increase of 27% from the same period last year.

Meanwhile, police in Chicago have seen a 6% increase in thefts this year, while the Chicago Stolen Bike Registry has seen a nearly 50% spike. Finally, stats from the Netherlands indicate that the total number of bike thefts have fallen but the total cost of stolen bikes (€600 million) has increased as thieves target more expensive models.

What is fuelling the rise in bike thefts?

These stats can primarily be seen as downstream effects from the COVID-19 pandemic and its resulting bike boom. As we've covered many times, as people turned away from public transport and towards cycling as a form of exercise during the lockdown periods of 2020, the number of bikes being sold spiked drastically.

As the number of cyclists, especially inexperienced ones, increased, it meant more bikes were on the streets to be stolen. On top of this, those new cyclists may not have been aware of the widespread extent of bike theft or may not have been taught how to properly lock up their bikes, so they will have made tempting targets for thieves.

The increasing number of cyclists came hand in hand with a shortage of bikes, which caused a resulting boom in the second-hand bike market. This has raised the price of bikes on second-hand selling sites and made bikes more attractive pickings for thieves as they can be quickly and anonymously sold on to people desperate to get their hands on a new mode of transport.

Photo J.L. Russell - VPD holding reclaimed stolen bike.
A bike recovered by police in Vancouver.

The pandemic also seems to have made smash and grab thefts of shops more feasible for criminals too. In the UK, trail centre hire shops such as those at Laggan Wolf Trax and Afan Valley have reported break-ins in recent weeks with total losses coming to around £100,000. A recent report from Bicycle Retailer about smash and grabs in Portland indicated that increased demand for bikes empty premises and fewer witnesses have made thieves bolder and shops more attractive for break-ins.

What can you do to keep your bike safe?

All of this makes for quite depressing news for bike owners as your bike is less safe now than it was in recent years. Below are some tips we've picked up over the years to keep bikes as safe as possible:

- Keep your bike inside whenever possible. If it is outside or in a shed make sure it is locked to something anchored to the ground. Consider an alarm on your shed as well.

- Turn on privacy settings on your Strava and social media so that you aren't advertising where your bike is to potential thieves.

- If you're locking up outside do so with more than one type of well rated lock e.g a cable lock and a D-lock. Make sure any easily removable parts (for example wheels) are locked to the frame or something solid.

- Identify and register your bike with a recovery scheme, make a note of its serial number and make sure you have photos of it, including any distinctive features, as these will help you recover it if it does get stolen.

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289 Comments

  • 285 11
 Death to bike thieves! (or at least knee cap all of them Big Grin )F them all!
  • 28 337
flag Ooofff (Feb 15, 2021 at 15:16) (Below Threshold)
 Bit far that mate I don’t condone this genre of behaviour
  • 18 3
 I agree 100%
  • 22 4
 @Ooofff: nice troll/burner account mate. Wink
  • 18 0
 That first photo looks like Gollum.
  • 38 4
 who the F down voted ?? There must be thieves among us!!
  • 18 1
 I think the word you're searching for is "kneecapitation"
  • 1 1
 @Sardine-Vladu: bingo. That's it
  • 2 2
 @Sardine-Vladu: kneepitation, obviously
  • 42 0
 I won’t even steal a bike from someone in GTAV
  • 14 3
 Guns and medieval torture devides were made for bike thieves
  • 2 0
 @DizzyNinja: some griefer dick blew up my bike and they ended up in a bad sport lobby.
  • 6 2
 Look at the bright side bike thieves gave us bait bike on YouTube
  • 4 0
 ...but still do your due diligence. Have a current picture and the serial number. Had my Levo stolen last year and lost all hope. 1 month later it was recovered and I got it back. Absolutely no chance of that happening if I didn't have a picture and serial #. AND LOCK IT UP....I got distracted at our hotel and didn't lock up the bikes. Mine was stolen and the wifes left behind within a couple hours of arriving. Bike thieves suck, but if we don't do our part we gotta share in the blame for making it too easy.
  • 15 42
flag fullfacemike (Feb 15, 2021 at 23:22) (Below Threshold)
 @wheelsmith: Bait bikes are a f*cking crime. Yes, bike thieves suck, but bait bikes are a higher level of evil. Petty crimes do not deserve brutal physical punishments doled out by vigilantes; that's literally the opposite of what we're trying to achieve as a species.
  • 25 2
 @fullfacemike: it's only a petty crime to someone removed from the crime itself. If it was your only means of transport to your job to support you and your family, it quickly rises far past "petty", into life threatening. so, while we should be trying to be better, sometimes you can't accomplish this the way you want.

it's pretty hard to convince the dog shit in the yard to be a helpful member of the family.
  • 18 26
flag fullfacemike (Feb 16, 2021 at 1:48) (Below Threshold)
 @conoat: "Petty crime" is a legal term that encompasses almost all bike thefts regardless of how important that bike may be to the victim. I'm not siding with bike theft here, I'm siding against the idea that you can retaliate with violence when someone wrongs you. That's some neanderthal shit.
  • 13 3
 @fullfacemike: considering many of us some neanderthal dna, those genes must be satiated occasionally, and the medulla oblongatas of the neanderthals that steal bikes already don't care about the law and often only understand harsh brutal justice.

We want the world to be a better place sometimes you have to deal with how the world is and not how you imagine it could be.
  • 11 9
 @An-Undocumented-Worker: It's not the movies though is it? We're not Charles Bronson, covered in butter, about to take our revenge. The reality is you get stabbed or shot or some other fatal injury because you don't want your stuff stolen. (No I'm not inviting a debate about whether we need more/bigger/more righteous guns or knives).
It's just stuff, I hate having my stuff stolen, really hate the feeling that some f*cker has taken my stuff.
I've had bikes, motorbikes, cars and lots of other stuff stolen, but it is just stuff and I have come to terms with it.
It sounds impotent and unmanly, I should hunt and kill those who offended me, but really, it's just shit and I can buy more shit.
  • 13 10
 @fullfacemike: "Petty crimes do not deserve brutal physical punishments" Thats where youre wrong kiddo...
  • 7 2
 @fullfacemike: do I have the right to use violence to inhibit theft? think about this one before you answer...
  • 13 3
 @Steventux: but you also aren't using much of that Non-Neanderthal brain to think out what that stuff means...

how did obtain your stuff? you buy it? with money? how did you get the money? work? work that you spent your time doing, and also some more amount of your time previously learning the skills to do that work?

what of the above is finite? if you guessed time, you are correct. So, when someone steals something you spent your time to earn, they are stealing a chunk or your most precious and finite resource. time. that is all you truely have in life, is time. So it is very easy to see it as someone stealing a piece of your life.

would you defend your life with lethal force?
  • 8 2
 @conoat: By that logic they'd be stealing a piece of my life I've already spent, so I'd still prefer survival over some weird retrospective-time-recovery-scheme.
  • 7 1
 @conoat: I'm not sure that's the point being argued here. If every one of us had the chance to stop someone from stealing our bike, I'm sure there would be some physical force used. I don't think lethal force would be justified in recovering a bike.
I think the issue at hand was that "Petty crimes do not deserve brutal physical punishments doled out by vigilantes" and that is what Bait Bikes are. I'm sure that we all want to see justice served, but bait bikes are immoral. They target the wrong people. someone walking off with an unattended bait bike (that is usually low quality and looks discarded) is very different to someone breaking into your garage, cutting your lock, or driving their truck through the front window of a bike shop. Bait Bike YouTube videos are made for likes and do nothing to deter people from breaking into your house to steal your bike.
If every one of us had the chance to stop someone from stealing our bike, I'm sure there would be some physical force used. I don't think lethal force would be justified in recovering a bike.
  • 2 2
 @bman33: when my bicycle got departed from myself and my household I was eccentrically cross but you should cause so unholy amounts of violence to one since it is only a possession not ones person.
  • 1 1
 @Ooofff: It's an expression, a figure of speech....hyperbole in jest. If you lack the capacity to understand that (or if you are just trolling as your profile suggests), that is on you. In addition, its a theft of your time as a few note above. Time = the most valuable thing humans have, it's finite and no one can make more of it.
  • 3 2
 @bman33: They are welcome to my used time, it was time I spent working, which was a waste of time.
  • 7 2
 @fullfacemike: Petty? I had 10 guys try to jack me off my ride last week only, were willimg to try beat me up to get it, luckily they didn't? These are the same scum going around cutting bike locks off. You think these c*nts don't do much worse than just taking an unlocked bike? It takes a certain type of person to steal someone elses property in the first place, a certain kind of scum that gets up to a lot worse than just taking one bike. It's all organised, these c*nts get up to all sort and steal loads of bikes not just ride off with one they see locked up, get an epiphany and never do it again.
  • 1 3
 @bman33: death to Bman33
  • 2 0
 @Steventux: Just give all your stuff away already. jk, your sorta right I guess. You can't just let people take your stuff though, you'll end up with nothing. Have to like at least try to deter thieves, if everyone just gives up then the thieves win.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: Where did that happen?
  • 2 2
 @skerby: I agree and I am being a bit trite here. As I've said, having lived in London for more than 25 years I've been robbed multiple times and every time I felt a kind of psychotic anger with the thieves, with the world for f*cking me over when I've never robbed anyone.

The lock currently securing my bike, the locks on my front door, the immobiliser and crook lock on my van all serve as a deterrent of sorts but what's being argued frequently here in typical armchair fantasy fashion is we should meet out disproportionate vigilante justice on bike thieves. I understand that people have to vocalise that fantasy, imagine themselves in a cape chopping the f*ckers hands off or whatever else gives them that retribution boner, the reality is they probably won't catch them red-handed and if they did they would probably come off worse.

All I am trying to say is it might be therapeutic for some to imagine what they'd do, how to redress a crime like this, but that's all it is, hot air. Crime won't stop for all this bleating, so accept that you might get some stuff taken away from you by someone else, try not to care too much about it, it will hurt less if it happens.
  • 1 0
 @Davec85: Manchester, near the canal
  • 1 3
 'Data' released by an insurance company about an increase in theft couldn't possibly be trying to drum up business could it??!

Especially when other research and studies published have indicated a decline in theft in the UK.
  • 3 0
 @Danzzz88: I had 10 guys try to jack me off in Manchester...is this a Danny Hart joke?
  • 4 0
 @Danzzz88: Those kinds of people spend most of their time inflicting misery on other people that don't deserve it. If someone steals my bike, I hope the next time I see it, it's under a bus, with them still in the saddle.
  • 6 0
 @fullfacemike: bike theft is petty theft? You're on the wrong site.

Incentive drives behavior. We get what we tolerate "as a species". Tolerate dirt bags, get more dirtbags.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: hoodie wearing chav yoofs were they?
  • 4 0
 @streetkvnt-kvlt: you got it.. I don't know why the uk has such a large percebtage of scum like that...there is poorer people in many countries but they mostly don't act like the retarded inbred scum we have over here.
  • 2 0
 @Danzzz88: I thought we had some absolute mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging troglodytes here. But after going to the UK some years back it was some real WTF is going on here shit. Never had to always look over my shoulder more in my life than when I was in the UK. Felt safer in even some known bad parts of the US than there.
No surprise there's a shitload of ex-patriate Brits living here.
  • 1 1
 @streetkvnt-kvlt: Come to Hackney E. London, it's all yummy mummies and eco-dads now, no more Murder Mile.
  • 2 1
 @Steventux: they are stealing the thing you aquired in a trade for your life. while it isn't *quite* as valuable as stealing your future life(potential), it is very close.
  • 3 1
 @Spencermon: I think a distrinction needs to be made between bait bikes ran by law inforcement, and those ran by YTers. the former does do a bit of good rounding up professional bike theives. the latter is just entertaining. I really could care less why you stole a bike, or how easy it was. it that bike falls apart as you ride it away and you bust your grill on the pavement, you both got what you deserved and got off fairly easy. just don't f*cking steal. it's a really simple concept. calling it "immoral" is borderline oking crime. don't do that either.
  • 3 0
 @mm732: right, I don't think stealing my $10,000 MTB is petty. by my definition nor the laws.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: errrm by our definition no it isn't, especiwlly when mugged for it. But by the laws I can't agree, bike theft from my experience is bottom of the pile of priorities over her for law enforcement.
  • 2 2
 @conoat: I've said it multiple times here, I've been burgled, had bikes stolen, had cars stolen, had motorbikes stolen. It induced an impotent poweless rage in me that was very hard to deal with at the time and I am genuinely sympathetic to anyone else this has happened to. I am not being flippant about the impact property theft has on victims.

There are 2 other points I am trying to make though:

The keyboard-warrior 'nail em up', 'hanging is too good for the likes of them' is probably a good way to vent your spleen, therapeutic and cathartic but wholly ineffectual.
Deal with the people paying for stolen goods, stop the crime at the point of conversion to cash and you have a far more effective deterrent than a bunch of middle aged blokes making empty threats on a bike forum.

Secondly: We have expensive stuff, sure we worked for it, and as I've said above it undoubtedly sucks when someone takes it away undeservedly. It is pretty much a certainty in an unequal and material driven society that this sort of thing will happen. And even if you refute this point, you only need to look at animal behaviours, something that we inherit despite our remarkable evolution, animals steal shit off other animals.
As a species we've attempted to establish rules via religion and philosophy which suppress some of those antisocial behaviours, as they hinder us as living in groups effectively but it's a tenuous set of rules and those who are either under threat or disenfranchised are as unlikely to obey them as those who believe they are above them. Lets face it we've all broken the law at some point.
So I think crime is an unfortunate but inevitable part of society, it's definitely worth trying to combat it, but it's unlikely to be eradicated, so coming to terms with property theft in the sort of society we live in might help us feel less impotent rage and knee-jerk prejudice when it happens. I look at it this way: I have 3 dogs and 3 bikes, if anything has to be stolen I'd prefer it was the bikes.
  • 3 1
 @Steventux: animals indeed steal from each other. they also will rip the throat out of the offending animal if given a half a chance. also, feel zero remorse.

so either, we fall in line with that, or your example is complete shite.
  • 1 1
 @conoat: Thanks for your considered opinion sir.
  • 2 1
 @conoat: Agree that the distinction needs to be made.
Thiefs are the scum of the earth, but there is something seriously wrong with deriving enjoyment from the pain and suffering that you cause to others. Then publicizing that online so that you may profit from that suffering through your YouTube views.
  • 1 1
 @conoat: Just wondering: If you are advocating retributive violence for bike theft, will you feel zero remorse?
  • 2 0
 @Steventux: by it's truest definition, incareration is a violent act. so no, I would feel zero remorse for the use of violence that is commenserate with the crime. We all have a different moral compass for where the line on that is.
  • 133 0
 Anyone ever have a dream so real that your bike was stolen that you wake up believing it, then once you see it your basement or garage the largest wave of relief rushes through your body...... or just me???
  • 36 0
 Happens to all of us man.
  • 33 0
 How about leaving your bike at the shop for something then later looking at where you normally keep it and having a brief moment of panic that it's not there
  • 1 0
 Yes, dude!
  • 6 0
 Nah, but I get anxious every time that I go to my bike room to verify that nothing has been stolen
  • 7 4
 What about when you hear cops and you get scared they are going to arrest you for stealing bikes, but they drive past
  • 4 0
 I get nervous when I leave my house for an extended period of time and realize I forgot to lock my bike down.
  • 11 3
 I had a dream I killed a woman to recover my bike. When I woke up I felt bad, but in the dream I was like, "gotta do what you gotta do"
  • 10 0
 @DAN-ROCKS: how is Jessica? We've not seen her around much recently. Eek
  • 3 0
 Haha, I have those 'real' dreams all the time... dreamt I also found a bike that was stolen years ago when in actual fact it was still long gone, was sad and depressed all day lol
  • 2 0
 It happens to be on a regular basis unfortunately. Besides the death of a loved one there are not many greater fears
  • 2 0
 Yeah I get that one too. I have to force myself to wake up just to IRL check they're still there.

**WORST NIGHTMARES EVER!!!**
  • 1 0
 I’ve had a few dreams about finding a really sick bike, waking up looking forward to seeing it again and then realising it was only a dream! Frown
  • 4 0
 @sexley Have had these dreams, and have actually gotten up in the middle of the night and walked into the garage to check to make sure they were still there. Wasn't able to explain to wife so that she'd understand, so made up some other "household" excuse.
  • 2 1
 that dream when your girl left you but you run to the basement after waking up and shes still chained there... phew!
  • 3 0
 I Have a Dream, a song to sing To help me cope, with anything If you see the wonder, of a fairy tale You can take the future, even if you fail I believe in angels Something good in everything I see I believe in angels When I know the time is right for me I'll cross the stream, I Have a Dream I Have a Dream, a fantasy To help me through, reality And my destination, makes it worth the while Pushin' through the darkness, still another mile I believe in angels Something good in everything I see I believe in angels When I know the time is right for me I'll cross the stream, I Have a Dream I'll cross the stream, I Have a Dream I Have a Dream, a song to sing To help me cope, with anything If you see the wonder, of a fairy tale You can take the future, even if you fail I believe in angels Something good in everything I see I believe in angels When I know the time is right for me I'll cross the stream, I Have a Dream I'll cross the stream, I Have a Dream Good to go !
  • 2 0
 @dexterfawkes: Wait what?
  • 1 0
 im not alone. Waking up in the middle of the night checking to see if its still there ...smh
  • 1 0
 I drove home from work once to check on my bike after a similar day dream.
  • 2 0
 I used to have my bikes in the basement. I would have a recurring dream about coming down to cut locks and missing bikes, no matter how secure I'd locked them up. Strangely enough I always found the culprit. He (neighborhood kid) just kept stealing my bikes. Sometimes I would find them hidden in my carport. Sometimes I had to kick his door down and beat him up to teach him a lesson. (All dreams, in case anyone was wondering)
  • 2 0
 @DAN-ROCKS: "gotta do what you gotta do" haha that actually made me laugh out loud.
  • 2 0
 @Dropthedebt: Oh... yeah, Jessica. She's doing terrible, trust me.
  • 2 0
 @DAN-ROCKS: Beer you gotta do what ya gotta do...
  • 2 0
 @Dropthedebt: think it’s time for another song ;
“Gotta do what you gotta ...............................“
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb:
Casey Kasem says... Number 2 Hit.
  • 27 0
 Is that guy in the first photo wearing swim cap and goggles?
  • 31 0
 It caught him by surprise when he realised the Dreadnaught he’d been sent to steal was in fact a bike.
  • 3 0
 What it these are the same eye implant Riddick has?
  • 14 0
 Then theres the other group of thieves who break into your car knowing that you'll be away from some time. Extremely common here in Bay Area (CA) esp in Joaquin Miller Park. Great riding but where you park your car, its littered w shattered glass.
  • 6 0
 If you park on Joaquin Miller road, be ready for a break in. My friends and I saw two kids smash a whole line of cars and drive off in a clearly stolen car. We called the cops and gave a statement then rode while the cops were taking statements from the six people with broken windows. I have had luck parking in the lots by the ranger station though. Now I bought a house close by so I can just leave the car at home and ride over.
  • 2 0
 This happened to me last year. Forgot my water bottle and returned to the car after 20 minutes, all my tools were stolen and my car was cleaned out by the time I returned.
  • 5 0
 California thieves even break into your car when you are driving. I live 30min from Santa Cruz and heard of several stories of bikes being stolen off cars/trucks when people were at stoplights. My car has been broken into 4 times in last couple years. Loss about $4K worth of stuff. Two times nothing in the car, but they just turned on the hazard lights to show off.

This video the perps stolen $7K worth of camera equipment when they were driving. They had to know what they had in the car.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2efwceQ_0c&feature=emb_title
  • 21 3
 Simple fix for a regular theft hotspot. Go for a ride with a couple of buddies. Ride off just out of sight and hang around for 10 minutes. Catch thieving pondlife in the act and smack the snot out of them. Twice.
  • 1 0
 I had to just suck it up and ride from my house instead of risking getting my vehicle smashed. Good workout to JMP thoughSmile
  • 3 0
 @tacklingdummy: yea sucks read about the guy, he saved up for for year and half to start a photography career. Am sure he was followed. My car's been broken into 5 times in the 5yrs of living here, pointless reporting to police. They dont even do it over the phone, just say to go online its so common.
  • 13 2
 @JiminOz: and that's how you get a teenager to stick a gun in your face in America
  • 7 15
flag JiminOz (Feb 16, 2021 at 2:21) (Below Threshold)
 @mtb-thetown: If guns are readily available you can't be surprised when the "wrong" people get them. Good ol USA. Petty thieves in the UK or Australia wouldn't have access to firearms.
  • 11 0
 Hmm just the same way as all the trails have been ruined, stop posting entire life on social media, so every one knows what you own and where you shred.
  • 9 0
 One of the best ways to reduce the chance of your bike being stolen is to not live in the U.K. ;-)

I have no idea why it is, but for some reason, bike theft is crazy over there. (OK, I'm suddenly aware that I don't really have any data to back that up. I'm going to keep going like I'm right, but I'm ready to fall on my sword if people who know better tell me I'm crazy.)

Maybe someone who lives there can explain. It's not like other types of crime are worse over there, is it? Why bike theft? I was watching some videos on the GMBN channel on YouTube and they were doing a tutorial on installing security anchors in concrete so you could bolt lock your bikes up in the garage. I couldn't believe that could ever be necessary, but I guess it really is over there.
  • 3 0
 Definitely necessary to take those kinds of precautions sadly. Some very organised gangs moving bikes between cities and has been going on a long time. I lost one at university, was chained up inside a locked shed (only residents of the halls could get a key), covered in security cameras with on campus security too. Came down one day, shed still locked, only my bike missing and clear angle grinder work on the lock. Security 'didn't see anything '. Happened to many others that year, including thieves just cutting through the racks in broad daylight outside lectures....
  • 6 1
 The US is a mecca for stolen bikes. I live 30min from Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz is the stolen bike capital, but the entire SF Bay Area has a ton of stolen bikes.
  • 17 2
 As a former UK resident I can totally validate your comment. The UK is a shithole, partially populated by people who should have been drowned at birth. It is a place where you can leave absolutely NOTHING of value anywhere. I had cars, motorbikes, bikes and countless other things all stolen when they where locked up in my garage at home. Even had thieves break in to the house to steal car keys as taking a car without them is too hard. My beloved Marin Indian Firetrail was stolen from inside a locked garage - the scum took the window out of the garage to gain access. Your stuff literally has to be in a fortress to be safe. I had motorbikes that took me 20 minutes to get out, such was the level of locks and alarms etc to keep them safe in my garage. Life here in Australia is so much better. 11 years in and no thefts yet.
  • 6 0
 @JiminOz: It sucks you had that many problems work your stuff getting jacked, man! I live in a small-ish town/city of around 100,000 people here in Idaho and I barely lock my doors. Heck, I leave my bike on my car rack when I stop to eat on my way home from a ride all the time with no issues. I didn't realize how lucky I was.
  • 3 0
 @JiminOz:

Guessing you don’t live in Sydney then?

Plenty of stealing to order going on here.

But FWIW I wouldn’t want to go back to the UK either.
  • 3 0
 @JiminOz: where in the UK did you live? It's not exactly an exaggeration though, we have 3 bikes stolen, tools and a car. Just a few weeks ago our neighbors garage got broken into, the folded the metal door in half. We heard and ran out and managed to stop taking 1 motor bike but they went off with another. Bastards
  • 3 0
 Yes,got to very careful with your stuff.High value bikes(and tools) regularly stolen from garage's and sheds, not many from outside a shop, as you'd be nuts to leave it outside, without sniper cover anyway.
Got to be a way to deter these leeches, and get buyers to ask more questions, provide paperwork with bike, tracking chips etc, as someone is buying them...
  • 4 0
 As some more anacdotal evidence I know a few people that have had bikes stolen, and on the local Facebook MTB groups stolen bikes are sadly common. The region that I live in has very low overall crime and I would consider to be very safe.

I can only assume that organised groups have realised that mid/high end bikes are the most efficient way to make an illegitimate living. £1/£2/£3/£4k bikes will still fetch quite a bit on the second hand market either complete or broken down for parts.

What other items do people own that's worth as much?

Car? Due to number plates, immobilisers and ANPR I've never in my life met someone who's had a car stolen.

Jewelry/Electronics? No guarantee people have them or where to find them plus it means actually breaking into the house.

Depressing though it is, stealing bikes is a fairly low risk/high reward endeavour.

I'm fascinated as to where the bikes go. I've read many rumours that they get shipped abroad (for the organised thefts) but never seen any proper evidence for this.
  • 2 0
 @kiksy: I know of 4/5 people in my immediate friend circle who have had cars stolen. It does depend on what cars, Audi and VW are the most commonly stolen. They are not sold whole, they are broken down into pieces before the night is finished and the expensive spares are sold online. Bear in mind, one alloy from VW Golf GTD or GTI is worth around £400-500 second hand, you have got up to £2k in wheel value there, thats before you start with side panels, display panel etc. They are just as attractive if not more so than bikes.
  • 2 0
 Yep totally agree - my town is pretty small but the amount of bike thefts is crazy. Some are just kids who know how to do it and use them to go home to the estate, others definitely seem more organised (I imagine they get broken down quickly and sold for parts, and sold well outside the theft area).
I never leave any of my decent bikes locked up anywhere in public if I can at all help it - and have a specific beater bike to get around on just so I don't care if it's nicked. I used to have a brooks saddle which I had a separate cable lock from the seat rails to the frame just in case. Sounds paranoid but it isn't at all! My shed with the beater is like fort-knox.
To be fair some people do ask for it a bit - I recently confronted a local lady locking her 3k+ ebike to a railing just by the front wheel, and you often see high-value bikes locked with those pound shop locks which I'm pretty sure just yank free with a bit of force. So quite often it's opportunistic too. But there are those who will track people from starva or marketplace, scope out their property and go directly for the bikes - happened to a few people I know.
UK = SHIT! and that's just one reason haha
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 @danielstutt: I lived in Nottingham. Biggest shithole in the UK. But most of the cities aren't far behind.
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 @Mfro: Not Sydney, I'm in Adelaide. It is increasing here, but still not in the same league as the UK. If you look after your stuff here it's generally pretty safe.
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 @JiminOz: Have to agree that Nottingham is a shithole haha. Im in Leeds, its a decent enough city but has one of the highest crime rates in the country unfortunately. I mean we are right next door to Bradford after all. Just saying.
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 @jjhobbs: De-legitimise the independent cash converter stores that fence a lot of this stuff.
A van load of tools has a very predictable path once it has been stolen.
Presumably it's the same story with bikes, phones, dogs, motorbikes, catalytic converters, laptops blah blah.
These thefts are enabled by the channels that make the crime profitable, if you neutralise the respective points of conversion to cash, there's no gain in stealing stuff.
It's a pipe dream to do this completely but I know of so many mates who have traced their tools to a local pawn shop in a matter of hours. Putting resources into policing those outlets and similar online ventures would help close down the money making opportunity from theft. It's likely very boring work but having plod keeping an eye on known outlets has to be more efficient than wandering around hoping to catch crooks.
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 I'm not here to excuse anyone, or give them an excuse but here's why I think the UK is quite bad for property theft:

The UK has a high level of wealth inequality, quite overcrowded prisons and a fairly underfunded public sector which is taking its toll on both on effective policing and on youth support and effective rehabilitation.

It's a perfect storm of making crime a viable, alluring and profitable career for some people. You have very wealthy people living very close to very poor and disenfranchised folk, that's gonna result in envy and inevitably property theft.

We can all bleat on about what we'd like to do to 'them' but it would be about as effective as a one man shooting spree on the rat population of London. The problem is a widespread economic one and no I don't have any answers.
Maybe having wealthy areas and shithole areas would work, poverty apartheid, the rich areas heavily policed and the poor areas left to themselves. Maybe reducing the wealth inequality and investing in support for people with less wealth. Maybe martial law, something medieval and disfiguring, though proven not to work over the centuries would make us feel better.

Property theft usually works in a pyramid of profit, in that the prick who nicks our beloved bike makes very little for quite a bit of risk, they are usually the people with the fewest options (No I'm not feeling sorry for them). Then there's someone handling those goods, can be a gang, can be a shop or online vendor or exporter but someone is paying very little, taking less risk and making more profit. And on it goes. You have to break down this system of profit to actually have an effect. You also have to convince the schmuck doing the thieving that they are being played too, and offer something other than a gang or crim-kudos as a viable career-alternative.
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 @Steventux: you make an important point there, the UK has a unique situation where wealthy housing is in and amongst much less privelaged housing. It's a result of a campaign in the 60s and 70s to mix classes more which I have no doubt is positive in some regards but also leads to higher crime as you say. I'm not saying it's right or wrong it's just unique to this country where you have a £600-900k house next to council flats.
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 @JiminOz: I lived in the UK for thirty years and never had a bike nicked; since moving to Switzerland I’ve had two stolen (including one where they kicked my cellar door down)...
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 @danielstutt: in our town the council flats are now worth £600k!
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 @danielstutt: affordable housing has historically been integrated like this in UK cities and may lead to more theft, but I think the main factor is simply the population density and level of average wealth of the country. Someone mentioned Sydney; similar situation.
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 @Steventux: yes, inequality is rampant in the UK. The answer, god knows. But, crime is crime. Unfortunately most police work is like an arm of social services, they haven't got time for "petty crime"
Too many people, not enough space, and equality that gone up a hundred fold since the 70's.
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 @danielstutt:

Housing costs in New Zealand have more than doubled in the last 10 years. Incomes have not. Won't be long before this sort of inequality crime is rampant here too.

We make the bed we sleep in.
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 @jjhobbs: There has to be more to it than just income inequality, no? It's not like the U.S. is a utopia of egalitarianism. Heck, based on the comments in this and other articles, even places in the U.S. with what we consider high levels of bike theft don't come close to what you all are dealing with. People have said bike theft is pretty bad in the bay area of California, right? Is it as bad there as in the U.K.?

I hope things don't change for the worse around here because it sounds like your average bored 14-year-old from the U.K. could clean out my entire town's mid to high-end bike inventory in a weekend or two with zero risk of getting caught. I mean, nobody around here would ever lock up their bike inside their own garage. I didn't even think that was a thing until recently.
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 @JakeEPooh: A 2021 Pivot Switchblade (XTR 8K build) was found at a homeless guy's trailer next to Stanford in Palo Alto. The homeless guy said it just magically appeared. Obviously, the owner was just not cool with the geo or tires so he must have just donated it to a random homeless guy. LMAO.

www.mtbr.com/threads/are-you-missing-a-2021-xtr-switchblade.1177570/#post-15219667
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 @Otago: yeah totally, because all those teenage hoodrats are only stealing high end bikes because they've been totally shut out of buying that new home they were eyeing up.
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 @JakeEPooh: Data isn't that easy to come by, but I don't think it's random bored 14 year olds. It's organised groups who have a complete chain from the initial thieves, to the people who then transport them around the country and/or possibly move them internationally.
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 @JakeEPooh: here's an interesting little interview I just found. www.stolenride.co.uk/former-bike-thief-london-interview . It sadly just seems that bike theft has become the current criminal money making scheme here. Why risk selling drugs or mugging people when bike theft is easier with less risk? Not sure what the solution is other than getting bike owners to up security or increase police resources so they can investigate better.
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 @Steventux: Try and have a watch of the 1948 film Bicycle Thieves, it's in italian with subtitles but stick with it as it is definately worth it. Very highly rated. Ironically, often available on dodgey streaming sites. Or watch on the BFI player. I always think of this film when the subject of bicycle theft comes up.
player.bfi.org.uk
www.imdb.com/title/tt0040522
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 @JakeEPooh: well yes, I over simplified it, and I'm not an expert on society. It sounds very different to California crime, as there's no roaming horde's of teens or addicts stealing in daylight at popular spots(no guns helps)
But , as soon as the sun goes down, sheds and garages are prime targets, and bikes , especially if you're insured, must have some pretty serious locking system.
All vehicles, camp sites etc , at night , are at serious risk of theft. I can't remember where, but at a fairly remote race/camp event, a couple of years ago, theives crept
in ,at night, and cleaned out many bikes! (My mate was there,his was stolen)
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 @Braindrain: Thanks for the tip, will give it a go, need to find my readers first. I have no issue with stealing films off the internet Big Grin
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 @JiminOz:

Aha. Sad that sleep little Adelaide has a growing population of tw@ts
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 @Mfro: They just busted some local arsehole with 18 stolen bikes at his house. Mostly low end stuff though. Somebody saw their stolen bike advertised on a local internet marketplace and called the cops. They looked into it and found he advertised a lot so paid him a visit.

www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/front-page-news/man-arrested-over-bike-thefts#.YC3i4egzZRY

Says a lot about how sleepy Adelaide still is if the cops are chasing this kind of stuff down. Long may it stay that way!
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 @JiminOz: ha, it was Nottingham Uni where my bike was nicked, along with many many others! I too have escaped to the southern hemisphere instead.
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 @JiminOz:

That’s great news. We managed to find a mates’ stolen bike in FB and set up a sting with the local coppers to collect it. Worked a charm
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 I think it’s about time bicycle theft penalties were drastically increased. Around here it’s usually just the “theft under $5000” charge, which is not enough that anyone will think twice about it if that’s what they’re thinking of doing in the first place. Police organizations all over the world are doing all kinds of reporting that bike theft is out of control. How about jail time for those that are convicted? If you’re a lawmaker in some form or another, and you’re reading this, do what you can. I can’t believe that here in Ontario now, if you are caught driving 50kph more than the speed limit ( which in many cases is about 15kph faster than the flow of traffic) you will be fined $10000 and have your car seized. Yet bike theft is treated so casually that thieves will often have a whole backyard just jammed with stolen bikes without fear of any reprocutions.
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 In May 1993, Kenk was charged with the Criminal Code offence of possession of stolen property. The Toronto Police Service confiscated 140 bikes but the charges were later dismissed. Read the wiki on Igor Kenk. Eventually he was caught with thousands of bikes, plus a bike shop full of parts. The only reason he served jail time for the second offence was because he had drugs, and stolen statues among the stolen bikes. Our criminal code doesn't do much to deter theft.
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 @skateboardnorth: ya I remember hearing about that guy. Just imagine the amount of pain and sorrow that someone like that collectively caused to so many people! Come on Trudeau, we want a change!
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 Property crime in Canada isn't taken seriously by the courts...most violent crime isn't either.
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 I'm good with the penalty for doing 50kph / 31 mph over the limit being that harsh--wish dangerous driving were taken that seriously where I live. I don't care how fast the flow of traffic is; arrest 'em all. Look at the rates of pedestrian/bicyclist survival and how they decrease as car speeds increase. Nobody's "I'm in a hurry" is worth killing somebody.

We just need meaningful penalties for bike theft too.
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 Absolutely agree. People get p*ssed when their expensive cars are stolen. My bicycles are my transport, stealing high end cars is not just classed as a simple theft.
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 California decreased penalties from felon to misdemeanor for amounts under $950, but the authorities still really don't do anything with regard to stolen property of much higher amounts unless someone was hurt during the crime. They just let the insurance companies deal with it.
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 HUNT THEM, FIND THEM, KILL THEM!
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 Desperate times leading to desperate measures? If only there had been some popular adage to warn us of this!
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 No warning needed, just common sense!
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 get woke go broke?
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 That Honzo held by the ossifer looks huge. Is one of those 36er's I heard about, or is it a pretty small Copper?
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 Also looks like a reverse mullet setup.
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 I live in Pittsburgh, PA. I was sitting by a pretty well known brewery down by a river this summer with my girlfriend and friend after a ride and having a beer. Saw a guy walk up behind us shirtless and stumbling around, intoxicated on God knows what. I thought he was stumbling to puke in the bushes nearby. Walks up grabs my girlfriends bike and goes “thanks guys” 6 feet away from us right in front of our eyes. I am by no means a big guy, but me and my buddy were running after him before he knew what was going on. Didn’t even get on the bike, tried throwing it at me when we chased him down. What goes through your head when you try and take a bike right in front of someone’s face? If he had any brain he would have been the diversion then had two other people come and steal the other bikes.
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 I hate bike thievery and the scum bags that do. But sometimes things have a happy ending. I had a bike stolen off my rack once so I know the struggle. One day I'm perusing ebay and see a sweet Kona process that is listed way way low, i figure the chick caught her dude cheating and was selling his shit. I got outbid last minute. No big deal. Next day is relisted. Curious right? So I message her and she says the guy didn't have the money, ok. I let her know that I'm 20minutes from her and if I get it there won't need to be any shipping. I get sniped at the end again. She messages me and asks if I have cash. Seems weird and after 5 minutes of search I find it that its stolen. I get in contact with the shop that sold it they get me in contact with the owner and we verify it's his I give home all the info and I feel good. He texts me and says the cops won't do shit. Needless to say I don't like this. So me and a couple of my big ol boys roll up and do the right thing and smash the tweaker that stole his stuff and I can him to let him know we recovered it. He was stoked, a little shocked and very grateful. That's when he said something that surprised me. " I already got my money from my insurance so keep it man, you earned it". Since then I've recovered 5 other bikes from scumbags and I got to tell you, it's the lords work. Everyone needs to do this. Idc about whatever hard times they've fallen on. No excuse. Sometimes a few lumps and some color are great teaching tools.
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 Have you guys ever caught a bike thief in the act? From a guy that has had multiple bikes stolen, I’d like to here a good story of someone getting what they deserve.
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 When i was in college there was a group of townies who would come on campus and steal bikes. You would sometimes see them downtown with spraypainted carbon frames, Craigslist was a smorgasboard of stolen bikes at the time (Burlington, VT in the late aughts). In any case, we were walking across campus one night when we saw them taking some bikes. We yelled, but they already had the bike and started off. One of the people I was with had a hell of an arm and pitched a brick at them, slamming one of these punks. The kid got knocked out cold and on his way down swerved and the whole crew ended up getting taken down. They ended up fleeing on foot when they realized that there were more bricks where that first one came from. We felt like we'd done our good deed for the day, but in retrospect throwing bricks at drug addicts probably wasn't the best decision.
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 @TBaldwin90: it was the best decision
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 I've had two bikes stolen, one in Australia, one in Canada. They're both looong stories, but in both instances I had exceptionally stupid thieves and I managed to find out who they were, get my bikes back (commencal meta 4x in Canada and intense M1 in Australia) and got them arrested! I definitely got lucky and had help from friends and the police, but my persistence paid off (and you will need to be persistent, as the police can't do much without a fair bit of evidence). It was worth having them stolen, just to have the guys arrested.
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 @TBaldwin90: Wow. Sounds like what I would have done back when I was in college. Good story. Thanks! Both my bikes were stolen when I was in college. Both were locked up and cost way more money than I had at the time. When my son goes in a few years, I’ll be buying him a beater to ride on campus. Fool me once... we’ll you ain’t gonna fool me again!
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 @themegawatt: Nice to hear that they don’t always get away! Thanks man!
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 I once 'punted' a bike thief with my jacked up F-150. He was riding my bike at the time. it felt good, just say'in.
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 Does anyone remember this story:

www.pinkbike.com/u/iggzdaloc/blog/DONT-STEAL-BIKES.html

good old Santa Cruz
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 I work as a police officer. I was able to catch a tweaker on a new Cannondale Lefty Ocho about 20 minutes after they had stolen it from the owner. Being somebody who has had a bike stolen from them, it felt great being able to return that bike to the owner. My best advice is to take a photo of your serial number on your bike should it get stolen. Any law enforcement officer in the US can confirm if a bike is stolen in a matter of seconds if the serial number was provided during the initial police report.
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 @TBaldwin90: More bricks please.
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 I have a feeling most of the internet tough guys posting here wouldn’t actually have the balls to beat the shit out of someone.
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 @sino428: Can't speak for anyone else, but if I caught someone in my shed they'd be very sorry I did.
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 @DizzyNinja: In college these two dudes I sorta knew walked in to the shop with my friend's stolen bmx. I didn't recognize it right away because they had painted it and I didn't expect it from someone I sorta knew. I was in the workshop and surrepticiously grabbed the biggest wrench I could find off the wall and latched onto the bike with my other hand. I then calmly told them the bike was stolen and they weren't going to leave the shop with it as I yelled for my buddy to call the cops. It was a pretty massive adrenaline rush as there were two of them, but I had previously decided I would never let a known bike thief get away with it if I could help.
I managed to call my friend whose bike it was and he shows up about the same time as the police officer, who was a bit of a cyclist and we were buddies with. Luckily my friend had made a police report and the cop told them they could hand it over now, or be arrested for possession of stolen property. So, sadly they were able to walk away, but at least my friend got his bike back.
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 @JiminOz: Why do you just assume the bike thief couldn't just kick your ass and then still take your bike?
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 @sino428: my will to keep something I worked hard for is greater than their will to be a piece of shit.
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 Daft Punk's cooperation requested by authorities in an ongoing investigation
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 One very important tip for locking your bike up in public. If you use a D lock, definitly get those bars that fill in the open area of the D! If you use a chain or cable, wrap it as tight as you can to what ever you're locking it to. This will help against a very easy very fast way of thieves breaking locks. Even the best,strongest locks. Or get a Beater bike, the best bike lock is a bike no one wants to steal NEVER leave an expensive pride an joy unattended in public.
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 P.S in addition to the Beater bike, I've even heard stories of thieves cutting through the bikes frame cos its faster than cutting the lock. Lots of expensive parts for them to sell.....
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 one time when i was young i left my bike out side of the store and my dad took it home on me. I thought i was stolen and had to tell my parents so sad, to find out it was in the backyard. Now i never leave my bike any where
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 Welcome to a day in the life of Vancouver! We've had issues with junkies stealing and stripping bikes for years so they can support their drug habits and lifestyle. They're so brazen, as our politicians and judicial system are so useless, that these scumbags operate chop shops in public. Bike theft is barely treated as a crime here. That in itself is criminal.
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 It's a real shame that criminals are targeting bikes, but so many people are super lax on bicycle security... It's so worth the investment in a decent pair of locks. Good D-locks like the Kryptonite New York Mini need to be cut twice before they'll open - and 18mm hardened steel will take a while to get through even with an angle grinder. If you have something like that, plus a second lock to wrap up the wheels most criminals looking for an easy buck will look elsewhere! Takes too much time and energy compared to all the poorly locked bikes nearby!
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 I guess you could file this story under the 'no shit, Sherlock' tag. Happened to me end of 2020. Never again will I put so much effort into a build, still stings. My monkey brain struggles to decouple the covid kooks from the shortages and theft, often catch myself being cold to the 'community' these days. It ain't right, but it's there.
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 Better yet, have bike manufactures invest in installing a micro chip GPS unit in all future sold bikes. Then when some Jack A$$ steals your bike you can locate it, drive to the thiefs location, and beat them to a fine pulp with your 10k dentist bike. Satisfaction lvl 10000 unlocked. #theequalizer
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 Obviously supply and demand shortages of bikes in the UK Borris says you can play out on a bike , pubs shut shops shut restaurants . High value items easy to move on .. no shock really as they are easy to split now parts are in short supply . Also on the increase is dogs being stolen , as more people work from home and want companionship covid puppies are a thing and again a rise in cases . Lets be fair if you caught a thief you would beat them within an inch of their life and not show a flicker of emotion.. c£$%s
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 That´s why I keep all my bikes in my bedroom,I can touch them from the bed...I only use that room to sleep and keep the bikes cover like a strange ghost hahahaha.
I always carry my motorbike chain (heavy as f*ck,but indestructible) in my town bike if I must left her in the streets. That and Abus U lock.
A few month ago, Santacruz dealer store in Madrid (LTM) was stolen,all their stuff was gone in 1 night.
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 Bike thefts appear to move in waves in the area I live. You’ll see reports of sudden spikes in bike thefts, then they plateau and so on-which appears to point towards targeted activity by organised gangs. The biggest issue where I live is opportunist thefts by addicts who live in the neighbouring area (there’s also a chemists just down the road where methadone is dished out daily). Good home security, vigilance and finally insurance are the only solutions. The police are not interested in car theft, let alone bike theft.....
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 one correction in the how to safeguard your bike section - " A well rated cable lock"
There is NO such thing as a well rated cable lock . Cable locks can be cut in under three seconds with cheap tools .
The only two locks that should be considered is a kryptonite or Abus D lock or a HARDENED Chain , 12 mm minimum thickness.
But even those can be defeated in under a minute so , never leave your bike u attended in a public place unless you ride a beater .
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 Yes because some prick with an Allen key or torx can pass by and strip your ride down pretty quick too
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 I fucking hate thiefs!
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 Thats definitely slender man. No normal human can get their arms around a bike box that well. Thats why they cut the hand holes.
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 I hope no one even suggests that there might be a downside to destroying the economy with lockdowns.
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 Too bad they (central banks) can't print bikes (or food!) like they print money.
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 For a second I though you were talking simply about bike prices from the dealer..........
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 oh yeah ... daylight robbery some of them prices!
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 Santa Cruz is the bike theft capital. Bike thieves are stealing off cars/trucks at stoplights. They are circling everywhere in organized gangs. It is a new career.
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 The local homeless population has a better bike selection than all major bike companies.
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 Data indicates that criminals commit much less crime with an a$$ full of buckshot.... Wink
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 I thought it was a global pandemic not an intergalactic one. Why are aliens coming here to steal our bikes? Surely they have better technology like like hover bikes or at least some sort of bikes powered by electronics somehow.
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 Welcome to California. Bikers JRA with frames and wheel sets on their backs. Usually those living near river beds and railroads. I love ripping moto in those areas-disrupting them. Personally saw a crf450 heist from Honda colton into santa ana river bed mid am. Sad
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 Bike thieves should just come to Portland. The Mayor/Police Commissioner certainly doesn't care/do much about it. Local BMX shop just got hit for the 12th time yesterday...in like 10 months. The 12th TIME!? I wish I could say they are an outlier.
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 In North America (US & Canada), you can register your bike with bikeindex.org bikeindex.org you get a sticker to place on the bike, which has a QR code

it won't stop the theft, but it may aid in recovery.........................
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 Has anyone tried putting Tile (gps tracker used often to find one's wallet or keys) in their frame? I have heard this has been helpful but haven't talked to anyone who has used it. Been thinking more about it.
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 How many of us have bought used parts or bikes? Weird to think that some of the people reading this article might be riding on parts of my bikes that were stolen. Here is an unrealistic solution, only buy new and there will be no market for stolen goods.
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 I know a guy from here in NZ (who was in the UK working on a TV show he created here), who got run down in London by some f*ckwits on a motorbike, just for his iPod. Weird thing was before he lost consciousness he remembers seeing the two f*ckwits crashing their motorbike into a nearby brick wall and hearing one of them in complete agony. When he came to, there was some wreckage from the crashed motorbike and a shitload of blood, that was not his.

Naturally they got his iPod. He also lost some teeth in the process.
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 Condo building policies don't help things. Condo bike rooms are not secure whatsoever, ditto condo lockers.
Watch who follows you home (more of a high end road bike thing).
Some big players play the long game. Stolen bikes are kept in storage for years before being sold. The bikes might even change geography. Always ask if you can research the serial number. If its a no, walk.
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 I know some people like to have their bikes stolen just so they can get a better and newer one paid by insurance. I think that's a scam in itself since everyone pays more and more for insurance.
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 Just Google boy mugged and bike stolen and it will tell you everything you need to know about the potential of ALL bike thieves.

Did COVID really need to make you wake up and be aware of what’s REALLY around us on a daily basis?
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 Thieving Scum! Not sure what else to say.... It makes me sick!
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 Two bike shop shops have been ram raided this past weekend in Melbourne (Aust) targeting E-bikes.
www.9news.com.au/national/arrests-made-after-string-of-melbourne-burglaries/7caa1637-239a-4e14-8fa2-2c68bdf30e71
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 I have insurance for my bike
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 yeah me to Velosurance my bike and they look out will insure all my bike from now on
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 @dasan: most home owners or renters policies allow for bikes the be scheduled on the policy. Best way to keep them 100% covered
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 On top of the frames serial number, your shocks and forks have one as well. so take note of those.
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 Absolutely. I recommend this approach to my riding buddies. I also advise taking photographs of any changes, close ups of part areas etc. tup
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 In the Bronx, one of the 5 boroughs of new york, I placed a coffee cup on a scooter seat and the alarm went off. Louder than a smoke detector. Truly blown away. I want one....
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 But.... What are the the other four boroughs?
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 Ill just say staten island is number 2
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 The phrase "unpopular opinion" is almost always followed on the internet by an extremely popular opinion. But judging from the comments so far it's clear that what I'm about to say could get me shanked. (Maybe I'm being a bit dramatic.)

I had my Canfield Brothers Nimble 9 stolen out of my house in 2016. I was livid. At the time I wanted that bike back more than anything I could think of, and I wanted the thief to face "justice", whatever I imagined that to be. My bike was never found, the thief never identified.

Almost 5 years later I'm left wondering what made that person want to break into my house and steal a bunch of valuables. Did they want to ball out with the extra money from selling the stuff they stole? Or were they genuinely financially strained, perhaps trying to take care of a family member while making minimum wage. Or no wage at all, having been laid off. Maybe they'd fallen victim to the opioid epidemic and were blowing their money to get high -- something I have no business blaming them for, due to my middle-class upbringing with basically no exposure to hard drugs.

If their motivation was anything other than the first on the list, would punitive "justice" really be the solution? There's no right answer to this, but for now my plea is for empathy towards those who may have stolen out of circumstance. I think the solution to widespread theft in general has to be sweeping, systematic, and humane. There's always more to the story than the individual.
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 Thanks for a much more balanced and thoughtful view. I also noticed that the article didn't mention the major reason I'd expect to lead to an increase in bike thefts, that is that people are seriously struggling. You have a whole lot of people out of work, in most cases not having many options to turn to. It's not surprising that theft would increase in this sort of context.
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 I have NEVER met a thief that was stealing to feed kids or pay the mortgage.
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 @Ducimus: Do you systematically survey people who've committed thievery in your area?
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 @Ducimus: so what was their reason for stealing?
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 @nordland071285: To pay for a drug addiction. CFS have long since taken the kids away.
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 @bemery: I take statements from them, or have conversations with them after arrest. Just taking a quick look thru the house tells you a lot.
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 @bemery: My point being is that they are not stealing for some noble reason or for the greater good of their family.
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 Most thieves are scum who steal things because they can't be arsed working to pay for them like everyone else. In the UK it's mostly drug riddled bottom feeders looking for their next fix. There are very few people stealing bikes out of desparation.
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 Agreed. If we focus on locking people away for, in the grand scheme, minor offenses instead of working to improve the circumstances that lead people to crime in the first place then nothing will change.
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 @Ducimus, @JiminOz: If it's usually drugs, that's valuable information. From my view, a hardcore addiction qualifies as a type of desperation - even if it's not a noble one. I don't imagine anyone with a bad addiction wanted to start using before their circumstance tipped them over the edge. I'd rather target the underlying systems of oppression that drag people into the drug market, not the victims of it.
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 @TacosMcGee: Unfortunately, a small handful of very wealthy powerful people stand to lose some ground if those things improve. It's always been an uphill battle.
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 @bemery this is a fair balanced view and definitely a "glass half full" view on life and maybe it applies to where you live. However I think i can speak for all major cities in the UK to say that theft of personal belongings from residential addresses is usually carried about by 1 breed of person.

They are more often than not part of organised gangs and thefts are planned well in advance. In most cases I have heard of, thefts have occurred in conjunction with a consistent time that person is away from home. For example, one family I am near to had a break in between 7 and 8pm and had two cars and several other valuables stolen. That family was always away from home at 7 and 8pm in an evening. 7-8pm in the evening is not a normal time for home break in to occur. Bear in mind this home was heavily alarmed and on a busy road. This is not coincidence and by chance. The burglars are organised and will scout and watch addresses over several days/weeks in order to decide when to strike. They are often premeditated as well in the way they know exactly what they are looking for. I cannot talk for where you live but applying your mindset to thefts in the UK is daft and certainly not true 99 times out 100.

There was a story, maybe it was on here or perhaps it was on another news outlet of where a girl had a bike stolen and it had a built in tracker on it so they traced it down to a gypsy site, challenged the "boss" there and he pointed over to a massive stack of bikes and said someone just left them there. So in regards to the increase in thefts and people being worse off, I dont agree with this correlation. Theres an increased market for bikes, both new and used so therefore stealing them becomes more attractive as it means more sales. Smuggling cars out of the country is harder and probably fetches similar or less money than some top end bikes.

So in short, your opinion may be relevant to where you live (must be a nice place) and certainly not relevant to the majority of the UK and i suspect, most other places.

And if you own a Volkswagen Golf GTD, GTI or R or any performance Audi n the UK, just accept at some stage it will be stolen.
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 @danielstutt: Spot on. Add to that the druggies, work shy and general scum element that has thrived for the last 30 years and you have a country where literally nothing is safe.
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 @bemery: weak as f*ck will power? a sense of nhilism? believing their want is more than the owners need?
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 @danielstutt: I live in Albuquerque. This place is so famous for its problems they made a show about meth set here. But regardless, a world where most people who steal are struggling with addiction or poverty is not a particularly optimistic one.

But I'd like to consider your example a bit further. If those gangs are like the ones in the US, most of the members don't want to be living that life. In places like Baltimore a typical gang will have maybe a few "high-ranking" members who are actually bad people, and the rest were just born into the hustle, their communities so neglected they never felt that they had a different choice.

So yeah, I feel for the members of that gang as well. And if this is true, that the systematic factors are more to blame than the individuals, it's surely not a rose-tinted way to look at the world. It means we as "functioning" members of society bear a much greater responsibility in fixing these problems, rather than shrugging them off because those who steal are simply the "scum element". But the one little bit of optimism I suppose is that we have the option to view it as an opportunity to materially improve the quality of life for everyone. And that's something I think is worth fighting for.
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 @bemery: I agree that many in the situation perhaps wouldnt be in another life but the problem is it becomes normalized and taking someone elses belongings is no longer seen as unusual, rather they just see it as their job.
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 @danielstutt: I certainly don't want to normalize theft. But I'd argue that the existing normalization of the neglect for historically oppressed communities inevitably leads to theft and other crimes. If we want to prevent the normalization those types of crimes, we have to lift people and communities out of the conditions the produce them.
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 @bemery: I dont disagree however I believe, at least here in the UK that it is so normalized that its not curable in that way. I believe that its not always directly correlated to "oppressed communities" either, it runs much deeper than that here and often has ties to eastern European countries. Particularly car thefts do.
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 Another reason to defend the 2nd
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 Data indicates that theft of sought after items increased during period where said items became increasingly sought after. Same article appears on Pinkdog.
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 Timely article. Would be interesting to see a follow up article on the demand for stolen goods. Do these buyers really think these parts/frames/bikes for these great prices are legit?
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 All my bikes have their own bedroom. They deserve it.
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 Hope they literally get crushed by a truck! Slowly!
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 Savannah Grillot is actually really cute! You can facebook her name.
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 @Thirty3: or you can not be a f*ckin weirdo
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 @lukeisdumb: im a stalker its what i do.
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 @Thirty3: You know what? Go ahead and stalk a woman who has history of beating losers with a baseball bat. I'll wait.
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 If you have home insurance you are covered, But will need to pay that deductible. I have USSA. they cover theft from car to hotel room. Hope I never need to use it.
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 Thought my stolen bike would be covered but because it was an ebike and hence "motorized" by their definition, the max payout was $500. Deductible was $500...Read that insurance paperwork well. If it was a regular road or mountain bike that was $10K it would have been covered, but a $5k ebike...no dice. Fortunately it was recovered a month later, but only because I filed a report and had the serial # and some photos of it.
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 Many policies only cover up to $1000. You generally need to purchase supplemental insurance to cover a decent MTB.
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 @krisrayner: you need to schedule your bikes, just like a car. Serial number and value.
This will typically give you a lower deductible. I have a $100 deductible on all of mine and insure them for full replacement cost.
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 bought some SRAM gear last week... felt like I was being robbed.
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 Could it also be that bikes are now frequently $5k to $10k or more in price, making a hefty profit margin if sold for even a fraction of retail?
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 I keep my bike inside my house. I ride my bike and never lock it up and leave it unattended while I'm out riding. I would go mad if my bikes were stolen.
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 Mine is in a locked garage, and fastened with a U lock to a steel table leg. It took me 7 months to find, and no one's stealing it.
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 My bikes and riding are pretty much the only thing keeping me somewhat sane at the moment. I don't know what I'd do if one day i found them missing.
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 The dude looks like the Rake
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 Portland? My home town? Had to actually google search Clever Cycles to find out where it was. Never heard of it.

Nevertheless, truly sucks for everyone.
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 Auto theft and vehicle burglary is way up as well so this is no surprise. In America’s rush to “decarcerate” we have removed all consequence to thefts. Your property is not important. Besides, don’t you have insurance?
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 Decarcerate? The US locks up more people per capita than nearly any other country in the world. Perhaps theft is on the rise because people are f*cking struggling. Particularly in the US where there is pretty much zero social safety net, when you have so many people out of work and no way for them to support themselves, what do you think they're going to do? What would you do if you couldn't afford to eat or pay rent?
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 I'm not a scientologist but I'm not sure the rate of incarceration is the key factor here... otherwise the states would have the lowest rates of bike theft in the world. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/incarceration-rates-by-country
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 We lock up so many people because we don't recognize an individuals right (AKA FREEDOM) to put whatever the heck they want in their bodies. Fully half of US inmates are in for drug offenses. Theft of personal property? The government doesn't have time to worry about that.
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 @westeast: Perhaps- but what about the link between drug use and theft? There are some studies out there (Like this one: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5608072) that would suggest a complicated relationship between drug addiction and criminality, including theft. At least on an anecdotal level drugs aren't cheep and patterned use of drugs often impacts the users ability to maintain gainful employment. So I'm not sure it's as simple as free the drug users and arrest the thieves. The two might be related at times...
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 @danprisk: ah yes. Starving people are stealing bikes and trading them for morsels of food. If only reality worked that way.

Yes, we lock up a lot of people for the wrong reasons. Drug possession shouldn’t result in jail terms. But theft and property crime that have real consequences absolutely should result in jail time. In our zeal to be “just” we have essentially removed any meaningful punishment from a wide variety of real crime. Like burglary of an occupied dwelling. Out here in internet land the idea of restorative justice works, but in the real world dirtbags just use it to work the system. Meanwhile people who will never be impacted by their crimes give them a free pass out of a misplaced sense of sympathy.

I could never afford an S-Works so it’s ok to steal one...
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 @westeast: I´m from Madrid,Spain. When I see LA images of people in the streets,to me it is like a zombi game. I would be mad living in a city like that.
I saw people in the streets in all cities of EU,in some more people than others,but nothing to compare. Sometimes you have a like "ghetto" hood or area,but still there zombi population is low.
We don´t have meth in Spain being smoked like pot,people here use it in very different way,going party. Worst thing is people who smoke cocaine,those near by the sellers.
At the end it is really sad to see young kids living like that ruined by that cheap rat poison.
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 @danprisk: we don't need "safety netting" if we would have our freedoms like in the 50s back. The reason people are out of work is because of bad government policy and over regulation. Look at the nanny state in our inner City's. If we the people would help our poor the Gov wouldn't have to!
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 @snl1200: Just because I don't believe drugs should be illegal doesn't mean I don't believe or acknowledge they are bad and can lead to bad things. That said, when a gov. makes something illegal it causes a whole cascade of possible effects: a black market, increased prices of the goods deemed illegal, decreased supply of the goods made illegal, users seek alternatives to the goods made illegal, often those goods are of a lower quality (meth, crack, etc), since this whole market is "illegal" the parties that enter it are often not the most ethical, users who want to quit or seek help may not.... Again, not saying drugs are good, but making them illegal and locking up sellers and users has made things worse, not better and, in my view, is not morally right.
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 @westeast: 100. I agree with all of that. Back in the early days of grad school I worked with a lot of young offenders and through that came to realize that crime is complex...obviously right? I've also worked in addictions so have some experience and understandings of that area. My current specialty, and for the past decade or so, is post traumatic stress work and specifically complex early trauma and that also relates to the current topic as early trauma, and particularly trauma in primary caregiving relationships, is strongly correlated as a risk factor for both addiction and criminal activity. So I certainly wasn't suggesting that there is an easy answer or that locking people up solves it. I was a strong advocate for pot legalization and not because I smoke myself but for the reasons you list and also so we could have a better dialogue about it and find solutions that feel safe while allowing personal freedoms and experience. I think as it relates to theft, and specifically bike theft, I was suggesting that the problem is more complex than more police, harsher prison terms etc. I think someone made a joke on here about "send the social workers to stop it" and while I agree that social workers aren't going to chase down a bike thief I would argue that complex problems often require complex, and multidimensional, solutions that a simple catch phrases or justified emotional social media posts don't capture.
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 Please no one steal my bike or my underpants. Need them all the time.
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 Write down all the serial numbers you can fine on your bike with the matching part description...give it all to police.
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 Had a bike stolen the shops in Boulder are being hit hard, 4 that I know of. Bike thefts are the worst
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 Junk punch for bike thieves
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 As long as them thieves target Joe Public bike makers and shops are still laughing down to the bank...
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 More like “Covid-29” pandemic =P
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 What did people expect? The prices of bikes have gone insane the last few years and they are so easy for thieves to steal. Mix in COVID economy for added effect, and boom.
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 The thief looks like Ali G.
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 Glad I’m not the only one who thought that
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 Like these Manufacturers care, they are insured and are making a killing on PPP Loans is next 0% interest!
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 simply cut them one hand when they are arrested and the other one the next time. no hand no theft
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 Product managers trying to secure bike parts anyway they can....
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 is it just me or is that honzo a reverse mullet bike?!
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 It sure looks like it. The rims are different brands, probably locked by the front wheel to something and the front wheel is still there, minus the rest of the bike.
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 Social workers will stop them.
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 More of a concern is the rise of the walking dead
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 that bike thief picture looks terrifying
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 had my SE DJ FLYER stolen 15 years ago and i steel thinking of it.
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 Just buy and train a big gard dog...that loves chewing on bones.
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 Insurance? Just a thought.
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 That custom Honzo is gangster! I would have stolen it too. Just kidding.
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 Definitely a sick bike.
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 Is that police officer super short or bike super tall?
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 Gollum really got desperate since he lost his precious.
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 Note.. more bike sales also means more bikes stolen
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 Is that an alien?
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 Obviously
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 Lol shocker......
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