Day 1 Randoms - Eurobike 2019

Sep 4, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  
Funn/Granite

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Granite completed their trifecta of cockpit tools at Eurobike with the Stash multitool. At the Taipei Bike Show we saw the chain tool for one end of the handlebar and at Sea Otter the tire plug for the another, and now we have the multi-tool for the steerer tube. Granite have apparently had to be very careful to avoid any patents from competitors, but have managed to pull it together with this system that doesn't require any steerer tube tapping.

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The tool itself features 8 different attachments - 2/2.5/3/4/5/6/ T25 and a flathead screwdriver. There's is also a magnetic spoke key with a core remover as well. The full system weighs 135 grams with the tool alone being 57 grams.

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Funn are also releasing their own goggles. Funn and XForce work closely together and Funn are using the same design as XForce, but with their own graphics. The graphics on these were designed by Funn ambassador and tattoo artist Richard Gasperotti.

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Granite also had their new Rockband+ on display, a larger version of the Rockband they currently offer.

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The Infinity Stones of mountain bike dropper remotes.


Muc Off

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To celebrate its 25th anniversary, Muc Off painted up this Yeti SB6 in its pink and black color scheme for what must surely be the loudest bike in all of Friedrichshafen.

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SixSixOne

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SixSixOne had two 3D printed concepts of helmets they are hoping to have on the market by July next year. The first is a lightweight full face called the Halo. The Halo will be a MIPS-equipped helmet that SixSixOne are aiming to deliver for under £200. Crucially, SixSixOne are ensuring this helmet will pass the ASTM downhill standard, something that they didn't do with the recent Reset helmet.

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Also new will be the open face, all-mountain Pinnacle helmet. This too will be MIPS-equipped and should be able to elevate SixSixOne into the more premium end of the market.

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Finally, SixSixOne will be bringing goggles to their range to complement their helmets. The brand admit that these are about as simple as you can get when it comes to goggles, but they will be priced at $39.99, aimed at riders looking to purchase their first pair. The goggles come with a tinted, scratch-resistant and anti-fog lens but you can swap it out for a clear one.

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Pearl Izumi

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Pearl Izumi are stepping up their mountain bike game at the moment and came to Eurobike with some new shorts and their first-ever protection lines. The shorts carry over the Pi Dry tech from their road outerwear; unlike a DWR treatment, this is applied to the fibers, not the outside of the garment, so it should be a more durable treatment.

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The shorts are adjusted at the back with a Boa system.



Shimano

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Shimano has updated its GR7 shoe to include an ankle gaiter.

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The women's version is identical except for sizing.


Pivot

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The Pivot Phoenix 29 downhill bike that the factory team have been riding all year has now been released. We've already posted full details here but there are some in the flesh shots from the show as well.

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1994 Specialized S-Works Ultimate

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Proof that Robot/Atherton bikes weren't the first to give lugged carbon a go in the mountain bike world, here's a restored 1994 Specialized S-Works Ultimate.

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The build is complete with an FSX Future Shock.
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122 Comments
  • 165 3
 Hehe, I should be working right now.
  • 89 3
 I've already got a boa in my pants. Actually, at my age, possibly more like a small rattlesnake basking motionless in the sun. Okay okay... a rare legless lizard. You people are so cruel.
  • 42 0
 That is no SB150, not even 29", that is the late and great SB6
  • 49 0
 You're right - the retina burns caused by the bright paint job must have caused the mis-identification. That's been updated.
  • 39 4
 Sb150... sb6.. potato, potato
  • 2 3
 Any chance that's actually an SB5? Look how short the rear shock stroke and the fork is for that matter.
  • 2 0
 @BigWallFC: Could be no air in the shock, hastily assembled show bikes and whatnot.
  • 2 0
 @BigWallFC, it's not - take a look at the internal cable routing ports and the shape of the top tube.
  • 9 0
 Whatever it is, I'd like to see what kind of babies it would make with the Pivot.
  • 3 3
 muc off must have got that frame for a song when the dentists and shop bros unloaded theirs to get the new 150.
  • 3 0
 @racerfacer: so if dentists can only afford Yetis, who buys specialized?....
  • 1 0
 @racerfacer: thats how I got mine Big Grin
  • 26 2
 show me the Transition goods!
  • 9 1
 Yea, where is that Carbon Scout!!!!!
  • 2 1
 @Richt2000: Yes...Carbon Scout please!
  • 1 2
 I work at a Transition dealer, and while I have been shown some of what 2020 holds for them, it does not like a carbon scout is coming anytime soon. Which is a shame because I would buy one.
  • 3 0
 @Buggyr333: Is it a longer tracel,(than the sentinel), 29er? Because i swear to god
  • 16 0
 All the Transitions look the same, so just picture any model from them and change the color in your head. lol
  • 2 0
 it's all I'm waiting for... 150mm Sentinel
  • 1 0
 @Buggyr333: Yeah thats what my local Transition dealer said about the Carbon Smuggler!
  • 1 0
 @Buggyr333: new sentinel in offing?
  • 1 0
 Only the Patrol are 20% off on their website. Probably something new is coming! Probably more longer, more slacker, more, more.. Frown If only it could be a mullet bike!!! A mix of Patrol and Sentinel would be nice, no?! Smile
  • 41 19
 Hot take if your shorts have a boa system you’re a d*ckhead
  • 11 0
 Little tiny lettering says "Kick Me"
  • 24 4
 I'm one of those dickheads that actually like BOA systems. Love 'em in my bike shoes, my ski boots and I can even see making a case for BOA in knee and elbow pads.

But I absolutely DO. NOT. WANT. them in my pants. Like, you could not pay me to put BOA in my biking pants.

BOA is great for quickly ratcheting up a web of compression that, say, keeps your bike shoes attached to your feet while you're maneuvering and pedaling your bike. Or eliminating wiggle in your ski boots to improve control.

You know where I don't need to improve control? My pants staying on my ass. Also, you know where I absolutely don't want to "ratchet up a web of compression"? Around my man bits.

Look, if ratcheting up a web of compression around your man (or lady) bits is your deal, I'm not here to kink-shame. I'm just here to say that whatever happens between you and your dominatrix should happen in the privacy of your pleasure dungeon, and not out on the trail.
  • 10 0
 Does the anti-boa bias stem from a fear of spandex outer wear? Some kind of CC, road biker association? They're pretty functional on shoes.

But seriously, having a knob on the back of my shorts where it could jam my hips/tailbone when I go OTB... not exactly my idea of an improvement. "Guys, wait up, I fell on my boa system." -- Garth the MTBer
  • 1 0
 @atourgates: I found BOAs on shoes to be really convenient but I had one snap right off in my hand, and the base attached to the shoe isn't replaceable. I don't know if I had previously caught it on something or what happened but that was that. Also they reallllly hate dust.
  • 2 0
 @atourgates: I think the Boa is on the back, and I definitely don't want a boa near my other man bits, the coccyx Smile
  • 3 0
 @atourgates: I would look forward to fiddling around in the area of my sweaty crack when it's time to remove my shorts after a ride. Better yet imagine a hurry up situation when the deuce is at your back door... Oh the stuff dreams are made of.
  • 5 0
 Why no simple belt? Could live with that...
  • 1 0
 @atourgates: BOA on ski/snowboarding boots: check
boa on clipless compatible bike shoes: check
racheting system for helmet to adjust for head size: check
boa for your biking pants: no problem, check
boa for a flat pedal mtb shoe: can't be done, no way
  • 1 0
 I think they went full Downcountry with the shorts. Never go full Downcountry
  • 16 3
 How do I unsee that Muc-off Yeti?
  • 6 0
 vitalmtb? Smile
  • 16 3
 25 years on and that S-Works still is the best looking bike on the show.
  • 3 3
 Just don’t put it next to an Atherton!
  • 2 0
 trek did it first in 90-91......
  • 1 0
 @biglev: Giant introduced the CADEX carbon fiber road bike in 1987, becoming the first bicycle maker to apply computer-aided design and volume production techniques to the production of carbon fiber road bikes.
  • 1 0
 @OzarkBike: you are totally correct. and in 1978 alan apparently were gluging alloy lugs on bike. i learnt 2 new things today. every day's a school day!! ;-)
  • 1 0
 How about the Graftek road bikes? Mid 70's. Carbon tubes with steel lugs (maybe stainless? maybe not...)
classiccycleus.com/home/1978-exxon-graftek
  • 1 0
 @uberstein: nice!!!
  • 8 0
 Diamondback had a lugged carbon MTB in the late 90's as did Trek. Was popular method of construction when carbon tubes were available but no good way to connect them into a bike frame except for using lugs.
  • 6 0
 As did giant with their Cadex range
  • 3 0
 I still have my Diamondback frame. The seams between the carbon tubes and lugs are invisible and are painted over with a fade. It's honestly a beautiful frame.
  • 2 0
 Late 90´s? Google Yeti C-26...
  • 2 0
 @SonofBovril: I still have one, the cadex cfm2 form 1992
  • 2 0
 My mate used to ride a Trek with the carbon tubes and lugs - damn thing weighed more than my early 2000's steel hardtail
  • 4 0
 True, but the Specialized had Titanium lugs and that makes it more like the Atherton bikes. If I recall correctly, they lugs were made by Merlin Metalworks. Now that I think about it, Johnny T's Raleigh had ti-lugs too. I wonder which came first.
  • 2 0
 @swassskier: Raleigh was first if I remember right, Tomac was on it in 91. Merlin did make the Raleigh lugs, don't know about the Spec.
  • 1 0
 @zutroy: finally someone got it right!!!
  • 6 0
 @zutroy: @swasskier: Ned Overends world champs winning Durango bike in 1990 had merlin titanium lugs, but that was a 1 off frame built specifically for the worlds race with exceptionally thin/expensive carbon tubes. at the end of the race the downtube had tiny holes in it from stones pinging off the downtube! in the days pre forums first flight bikes had e-mailing lists where this bike was discussed in much detail with info from early frame builder & specialized employee Jim Merz who was responsible for the worlds bike. I still have the 1990 worlds MBA issue with the bike in it. by modern standards the new 2020 specialized epic production hardtail frame is 1/2lb lighter, which shows how far we've come from 1 day race use, to useable with warranty.. but i digress...

the production specialized ultimate epic had ti lugs in 91. the bike was painted all black, as the cantilever brake bosses were still steel!, shared from the steel lug epic. the lugs were painted silver & frames a little lighter by 93. 1 of Neds old specialized ultimate epics was still hanging in the durango bike shop when I visited last october (along with loads of other ex pro bikes)

Tomacs Raleigh Signature is a killer bike. It was first shown 1st jan 1991 & also had Merlin titanium lugs. still unknown as to how exactly how many were built as unfortunately the raleigh guy heading the project died a few years back. in 93 Litespeed built the lugs for the 93/94 season. The major differences between the merlin & litespeed ti frames are the the raleigh had a press fit bottom bracket, was satin in finish & had a much larger oval seatstay & werent available to the general public. litespeed built alleged 50 for general sale (Tomac also rode a few, with some differences). these frames had conventional threaded bottom bracket, smaller round seatstay, matt finish & litespeeds famous at the time 2 hole dropouts.

I guess the major difference to the athertons frame is obviously its 3d printed & double shear lap lugs.
  • 10 0
 New 661 stuff looks so good! Doing it for the regular riders. Can’t complain at good looking, simple goggles for $40!
  • 9 0
 What happens if you install all those dropper remotes on your bars and then snap your fingers?
  • 40 0
 Half of all Reverbs will vanish
  • 2 0
 and time heist back into exist 5 yrs later...wait, nobody will go through all that effort for a reverb
  • 2 0
 Ah yes, the elusive Infinity Dropper.
  • 9 0
 The ankle gaiter is the most wonderful thing
  • 39 0
 Could be GR8... but alas is just GR7.
  • 2 0
 It's good for riding but builders know that isn't going to cut it. Working on making nothing into something on a mountain lead me to ankle support and the ability to ride/test section. Everyone has there own setup but my feet , ankles, etc get blazed sawing trees down all day on a 45 degrees angle. Builder specific shoes please , or just buy clearance Merrel's, specially with cold weather coming.
  • 1 0
 I really don't understand why it is so popular!!! I mean, I could ride these on my fatbike at -10, -20C but in summer at +30, +35C WTF!?!?! Those 5ten and other skate style shoes are making me miss my old cross-country shoes, imagine those with ankle gaiter! :O Yeah it must be good for dh riding but not enduro where you have to pedal up the mountain!?
  • 1 0
 @Timo82: I like them for keeping dust, dirt, snow, pine needles and a limited amount of water out. These are my favorite shoes right now for enduro and dh. They don’t really overheat.
  • 1 0
 @samdeatley: Yeah I understand for dh but enduro... What's the temperature like in Oregon during the summer?
  • 9 0
 Poor Yeti. Did he deserved that?
  • 7 0
 That Pivot Phoenix, so hot right now.
  • 2 3
 Agreed. I’ve always thought of Pivot as a ‘catalogue company’ but credit where credit is due, that Phoenix looks on-pointe.
  • 3 0
 Anyone ever tempted to pick up those glass figurehead and drop them onto floor with helmet attached to just see how strong they are and whether if they shatter ? Oh, just me then!
  • 10 5
 the BOA system sucks, stop trying to cram BOA into every product ever
  • 8 0
 I like the BOA system on my 510 shoes but could you imagine going down on your hip on that thing? That would seriously suck
  • 1 0
 I've never had it fail on my KLIM backcountry snowmobile boots, guess we've had different experiences there.
  • 4 0
 @WhatToBuy: Your Klim boots have a recessed spot for the BOA to avoid impacts. Those of us with standard snowboard boots on our snowmobiles have had too many BOA get smashed.

I'm not against them but I'm picky on the application. A BOA failure in the field sucks much worse than a lace failure.
  • 4 0
 Pivot with some subtle wonders with in design
  • 4 3
 Yet they failed to align the rim and tire logos. OCD NIGHTMARE
  • 1 0
 @endlessblockades: that is because the Tire logo is split by the valve stems on the DS. It hurts my eyes too.
  • 3 0
 Shimano GR7s had the neoprene ankle gaiter since the beginning. I'm looking at my 2018 pair right now
  • 4 0
 Show me more anodized eeWings!
  • 1 0
 That boa does not look like it would feel good under a pack! Too bad because we are really looking for some good waterproof shorts.
  • 3 3
 Whats the point of the Muc-Off rotor covers? A bike is going to see 10x more dust, dirt, mud and grim within 5 minutes of riding vs being transported by car. I don't get it, may just be me.
  • 11 0
 I dunno, but it does look like they're doing a good job of hiding those Spengle wheels from view.
  • 6 0
 It's so you can merrily spray silicone shine everywhere without fear of pad/rotor contamination
  • 4 0
 To protect from the oils, not dirt, would be my guess
  • 10 0
 I think these are most effective for longer road trips. The grime from roads that carry automotive traffic is much different than the dust and mud you’d typically see on the trail. Also, the positioning of the bike/rotors (perpendicular to the direction of travel) will expose it to more contaminants than if it were pointed straight.
  • 10 0
 Thought they were dumb as well until this past winter and spring when I’d regularly drive to some riding areas that were further away (hour or so) and included higher speed highway driving through areas that could/did see some overnight frost and/snow and were salted. The melted dirt/water/slush/snow mixture sprayed my bike or just the lower part of my bike a good number of times so that when I got to the trails, my rotors and pads were covered and salt/dirt/water. It kinda f*cked shit up a bit. Had to wash my bike before I could ride. That when I saw the value in these. Starting wrapping my rotors and calipers in small towels which worked pretty well. But would prefer something water proof
  • 4 0
 Depends on the road trip in question, longer trips, or rainy days can kick up an impressive amount of oily dirt onto the back of your car.
  • 1 0
 @maxyedor: that’s my guess as well.
  • 1 0
 I also think they intend them for use for airline travel, preventing damage to rotors and other bits while the bike is broken down in the bag!
  • 1 0
 Diesel fumes wreck your pads.
  • 1 0
 In the winter they double as a sled to go tubing.
  • 1 2
 "Proof that Robot/Atherton bikes weren't the first to give lugged carbon a go in the mountain bike world"

Actually specialized was rather late to the idea even in 1994. Miyata, Giant, Trek and quite a few other brands had beaten them to the market with lugged carbon frames by several years.
  • 5 2
 i'm surprised by a vintage geek like you Smile specialized first epic steel lugged was 89. Ned won durango worlds in 90 on a ti lug ultimate
  • 1 0
 Cool story about those Ultimates (I actually owned one back in 2005-10ish).

The lugs were made by Merlin, supposedly they assembled a whole bike on the jig, welded it and then chopped off the tubes. Then specialized glued in the carbon.

Sweet bike though.
  • 3 0
 @scantregard: You sure Ned's bike in 90' was ti lug/carbon tube? Specialized def did carbon tube aluminum lug bikes in the early 90's on the road side, but on the MTB side, they were pushing (and Ned was riding) M2 metal matrix bikes by 91-92', and I don't recall them doing carbon prior to that. Johnny T was on a carbon tube/steel lug Yeti in 90', but I am shocked that I am having trouble recalling the exact deets on Neds 90' bike. You sure it wasn't just a sweet steel frame?
singletrackworld.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/09/Overend-1990-Worlds-Moran-07-334x500.jpg
  • 1 0
 Without spending ages searching I'm agreeing with Scant (you gave me a guided tour of your local trails many years ago!). I quit MTB racing circa '92 and Specialized had their Epic out for a good while before then. Dave Mellor (my old LBS) had an Epic Ultimate way back IIRC. Pretty sure Neds bike above had blacked out Ti lugs. I had one of the first 500 Specialized M2 Team Ed frames circa 1991 and the Epics / Ultimates were around before then. /nerd
  • 1 0
 @scantregard:

I'm surprised you know nothing of Trek's carbon tube road and mountain bikes... because Specialized has almost never been first to do anything in bikes. Trek introduced the 2500 road model in 1986. It used aluminum lugs and stays with bonded and carbon down, top and seat tubes.
  • 1 0
 @thekaiser: yup, built specifically for the worlds. check my comments a few posts up.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: I bow to your superior trek knowledge Smile but thats a alu lug, trek road bike. I was just pointing out that specialized had steel lugged mtb carbon in 89 & ti lug mtb carbon (for Ned worlds) in 90, production in 91. just being more relevant to the atherton mtb ti lug comments

no harm, no foul Wink
  • 1 0
 @scantregard:

Yes...the Trek 2500 road bike was in 1986... the aluminum lug / carbon tube 8900 MOUNTAIN bike followed in 1990 and was an actual production bike, not a a team-only bike like the Stumpjumper Epics were in 1990.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: mombatbicycles.com/MOMBAT/BikeHistoryPages/Specialized.html

mombatbicycles.com/Specialized_Specs.htm

production steel lugged bikes in 88 & 89. but to be honest i'm not so concerned who was first, the merlin lugged specialized ultimates are just beautiful imho, yes i'm a nerd fanboy Smile
  • 2 0
 @scantregard: Fanboy or not I think we can all agree the merlin lugged ultimates are gorgeous, especially with the silver lugs.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight:

I'm surprised you know nothing of Alan's carbon tubed road bikes. Introduced in 1976 Wink They'd already been doing aluminium lugged bikes for four years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALAN

All this this is somewhat irrelevant as the Robot bike has a completely different lug style where the tubes are bonded / supported externally and internally unlike the lugs on some old road bike from 1954.
  • 1 0
 Hey Shimano, and other brands too, stop giving the women the better colored gear like these shoes. They look like good shoes but it's just cruel denying me the option Smile
  • 2 0
 That one mucfugly bike right there!
  • 1 0
 I have one of those Specialized forks hanging on the wall of my carport with a mag21.
  • 2 1
 I want that 1994 Specialized S-Works Ultimate more than anything else mentioned here!
  • 2 0
 Are there any mtb goggles that won’t fog up prescription eyeglasses?
  • 2 0
 Dentist should see muckoff very well.
  • 2 0
 661 goggles are sick! stoked on the simple design
  • 1 0
 Giant also made bonded lug carbon frames long ago. but either Specialized or Giant used Titanium lugs
  • 2 0
 You’d need a lot of Muc off to clean up that tarty paint job.
  • 1 0
 Is it wrong to still drool/oogle at that '94 Specialized S-Works? Asking for a friend.
  • 1 0
 the S-Works Ultimate is rad! i remember lusting after those back in the day...
  • 1 0
 That 661 google looks like a melon parker ......
  • 2 1
 That Legalized Stumpjumper is better than anything that company makes now
  • 1 0
 do I need glasses?

no, most of the pics are out of focus
  • 1 0
 I can’t get over how beautiful that new Pivot DH is Drool
  • 1 0
 Wheelset name please in pink Yeti Smile
  • 1 1
 Trek was also doing lugged carbon bikes in the 90's
  • 2 0
 A bit like Yeti was doing in the late 80's with C26?
  • 1 0
 @vmgscot: full circle with atherton robots
  • 1 0
 @vmgscot: damn your right! Before my time
  • 2 0
 Someone else mentioned it in the thread, but that's not actually the original Specialized lugged carbon. The original was black I think? And might even have had steel lugs. At any rate this was some "replica" of the one that Ned Overend won the first world XC champs on.
  • 1 0
 They actually started doing them in 1986 with the 2500 road model.
  • 1 0
 That pivot is beautiful







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